NYTimes.com: NASA Spacecraft Accomplishes Mission and Smashes Asteroid Into New Orbit

[John Clark]

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NASA Spacecraft Accomplishes Mission and Smashes Asteroid Into New Orbit

The DART mission proved more successful than expected in adjusting the trajectory of Dimorphos, suggesting that a deadly space rock could be deflected in the future.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/11/science/nasa-dart-asteroid-spacecraft.html?unlocked_article_code=gEJ-HbzE1lhpl_41so6nGsR87wucCD4KRwbeMH_Jsa85yOJfpcCkTAFxKQyeSyUo8YSj-NV_BkKNMR0Sk0RCPGfSjjnBoggROYULK-suIA5tOnCM6I8J8OqiXZYVtBEl4fLNtc_nWtXs4vM0PeC2AlF3c-ZMdRH42JZYRib8ShvdRzVjh6qZHf4N8bRTDI7jBYYeHtaIQPDHFyINEOybyznshcw2-rc_k9OSvGaiIiVVI7bhPzDDoRLtmq5bxXWWdwpQ5G_tcKHHGBTLFmHaCSdi2BHT6KU4AUomz0E4-k-7oawzoD85yq76PSAZ27WrERcQx8_kPY2lCXb-FhythROZt9SiztQ&smid=em-share

[spudb...@aol.com]

Which I surmise that with the 32 second degree of change, this method is real life does likely prevent, given enough time/warning will prevent another Tunguska, another Cretaceous-Paleogene Extinction Event, which seems to be the big success of our age. 

Next to work on, preventing super volcanoes, and yeah, maybe a nuclear attack? 

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[Telmo Menezes]

Vulcanoes and asteroids are super-easy stuff when compared with the species-wide evolutionary step that would be required for us to be safe from global nuclear conflict. We seem to be going in the opposite direction on that one, as far as I can tell. I am a bit pessimistic on this. I suspect it will require the trauma of a near-extinction event. Crossing my fingers that it doesn't happen in our lifetimes.

Telmo

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[John Clark]

On Wed, Oct 12, 2022 at 9:51 AM <spudb...@aol.com> wrote:

> I surmise that with the 32 second degree of change, this method is real life does likely prevent, given enough time/warning will prevent another Tunguska, another Cretaceous-Paleogene Extinction Event, which seems to be the big success of our age. 

Of course that asteroid was only 500  feet in diameter while the Tunguska object was larger than Mount Everest, but even so it might be enough if the deflection occurred a decade or two before the impact. So early detection is the key to success, and that makes comets much more dangerous than asteroids. Asteroids will only come at you from the plane of the elliptic, but a comet could strike from any direction, and a comet will be moving much faster than an asteroid. And if the comet is coming from the direction of the sun it would be even more difficult to spot early. A wide field telescope placed in orbit well outside the elliptic would go a long way toward solving that problem

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[spudb...@aol.com]

All of that, sure. But now you are overlooking a small but important win. Comets yeah, but we're not doing space too heavily yet are we? So we could string the solar system with telescopes to look for rogue comets and roids. 

A win is still a win, a kiss is still a kiss, a sigh, is still a sigh.

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[spudb...@aol.com]

See, I have never seen Climate Change as the big threat. Thugs with nukes, now that is a species killer. 

Telmo, I offered to polemicist JC, the offer for Putin to place nukes back into Cuba (1962) as a withdrawal from the Ukraine. 

Putin gains instant assurance of US destruction, and he and his thugs get a Face Saving thing. 

Will this work? I don't know? Would any US general or admiral think this might be a good idea? Have never asked one.

Conceivably there could be money to be had in all this of course. It's an idea. As economist Walter Williams said,  "Life often isn't about fixes, it's often about trade offs." 

China bribes everyone in the world and often gets its way, in this fashion. No need to give up on the human aspect.

Technology IS harder to overcome than human nature. Otherwise, you'd be grilling sausages by your Mr. Fusion Grill. 

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[Telmo Menezes]

Am Mi, 12. Okt 2022, um 21:28, schrieb spudb...@aol.com:

See, I have never seen Climate Change as the big threat. Thugs with nukes, now that is a species killer. 

Unfortunately, both can be a big threat at the same time. During the global warming hiatus of the previous decade there might have been some leeway to hope that the models were wrong, but not the empirical evidence is overwhelming.

Telmo, I offered to polemicist JC, the offer for Putin to place nukes back into Cuba (1962) as a withdrawal from the Ukraine. 

Putin gains instant assurance of US destruction, and he and his thugs get a Face Saving thing. 

Putin already has instant assurance of US destruction. Like the other major nuclear powers, he has the nuclear trident.

Will this work? I don't know? Would any US general or admiral think this might be a good idea? Have never asked one.

Even if it did, this would be seen as a concession. Have you seen the reactions to Elon Musk's recent tweet proposing a compromise? Independently of our opinions on Musk, I assume that he has more privileged information than us, and his tweet made me think that nuclear escalation is a real possibility at the moment.

Conceivably there could be money to be had in all this of course. It's an idea. As economist Walter Williams said,  "Life often isn't about fixes, it's often about trade offs." 

I agree that life is often about trade offs (not necessarily of a financial nature), but I'm not sure how a profit motive could help here. What's your idea?

China bribes everyone in the world and often gets its way, in this fashion. No need to give up on the human aspect.

China developed a symbiotic relationship with the economy of the western world. Putin is not acting as a rational economic agent, not even by a long shot. He cares about other things.

Technology IS harder to overcome than human nature. Otherwise, you'd be grilling sausages by your Mr. Fusion Grill. 

Mr. Fusion Grill still seems to have some hairy theoretical problems to overcome. The Coulomb barrier says hi.

Telmo

[spudb...@aol.com]

Columb Barrier!! Oh ye of little faith!

Concessions that don't make things worse are livable, and that is the difference. As an American General during the START talks said, more weapons just to make the rubble bounce? 

China, If I go by a leaked secret discussion plan about taking the war to the Americans. The plan was a direct copy of the successful 1940 Plan that Hitler used to invaded Norway. Needless to say the CCP likes lots of Nazi things really.

Here was Hitler's plan-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Weser%C3%BCbung

The PLA would land troops using disguised cargo ships which they have plenty of and access to ports, just like Adolf. It even sounds like it could work, Telmo!

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-12-15/china-russia-or-north-korea-would-strike-u-s-homeland-in-a-war?leadSource=uverify%20wall

Putin's nobody I trust but I do trust US ability, when its not fucked up by the Progressives to conduct defense and retaliation.

Today, Joe has be doubtful.

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[Brent Meeker]

Like the retaliation against Iraq for the Saudi's that attacked us from
Afghanistan?

[spudb...@aol.com]

Yeah, at this point following the chatter of dem party loyalists, their primo enemy is not  putin or xi, it's Americans, right from Joes mouth. Message loud and clear.

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[Brent Meeker]

It's not a Dem President that praised Putin and Xi, took Putin's word over the CIA asking why would he lie, and fell in love with Kim Jong-un.  It wasn't a Dem President that was going to with hold military aid to Ukraine unless he did a favor.

The people that attacked Iraq for what Saudi's from Afghanistan did weren't enemies...they were stupid Republicans.

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[spudb...@aol.com]

Putin didn't invade Ukraine under Trump, but did under Obama and Joe. Your primo enemy is other Americans and never Putin, Xi, or the Ayatollahs. This is now a feature of society. Your team wanted this, now imagine a war that Joe stumbles into? 

Should we all line to fight Joes wars to defend people who want us erased? Like yourself, for instance? So, we now see beyond a doubt that policy is way more important than mere personality.

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[Brent Meeker]

On 10/12/2022 4:02 PM, 'spudb...@aol.com' via Everything List wrote:

Putin didn't invade Ukraine under Trump, but did under Obama and Joe. Your primo enemy is other Americans and never Putin, Xi, or the Ayatollahs.

That's funny.  All the money I've donated has been fight Putin and to support politicians that don't love MSB and Xi.

This is now a feature of society. Your team wanted this, now imagine a war that Joe stumbles into? 

Should we all line to fight Joes wars to defend people who want us erased? Like yourself, for instance? So, we now see beyond a doubt that policy is way more important than mere personality.

And what's the policy of "your team"?  Praise dictators so they'll be nice and support "your team" with money and misinformation?

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[spudb...@aol.com]

If you want the US to survive one follows a track, if one wants a policies made by Stalin in a tutu, we'd go the Progressive path, we keep on with the team. We see this with the promotion of pedophilia as espoused, many teachers, superintendents, school districts. Aside from foreign policy issues, pedophilia seems to be a thing with the party.

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[Brent Meeker]

"Pedophilia is a thing with the party"  Is that the Hastert rule I keep hearing about?

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[spudb...@aol.com]

Pedophilia aka child molestation, and I do mean is not child, not celebrated by anybody centrist, its a thing now part and parcel of The Party, and your teachers union seem to be great enthusiasts for this. 

New York, of course. Hastert? The problem is not with the Ruling Class in this case, but mostly with the rank and file. 

New York of course.

https://nypost.com/2022/06/11/over-200k-being-spent-on-drag-queen-shows-at-nyc-schools/

Now these democrats cannot even teach math and English, let alone human sexuality? Moreover. they seem to promote man boy, and I don't mean teen, I mean boy sex, yeah. This'd be a thing for those who identify as Americans, never to support. Moreover, should Americans lay down their lives for those they want them dead and their kids molested, as well as the politicians who condone this?? 

Note: Don't sacrifice for people that hate you and want you dead. 

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[John Clark]

On Wed, Oct 12, 2022 at 8:41 PM spudboy100 via Everything List <everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>  pedophilia seems to be a thing with the party.

You believe every piece of nonsense that somebody has typed out on the Internet provided it doesn't contradict your extreme right wing ideology. Somebody types "Democrats are not just pedophiles they are cannibalistic pedophiles because they follow the lead of the chief cannibal pedophile, the lizard person from another planet Hillary Clinton" and the Trump minions believe every word of it. 

> Pedophilia aka child molestation, and I do mean is not child, not celebrated by anybody centrist, its a thing now part and parcel of The Party, and your teachers union seem to be great enthusiasts for this. 

And conservative Republican Southern Baptists are also great fans of pedophilia: 

Southern Baptist leaders release a previously secret list of accused sexual abusers

And Republican Speaker Of The House Dennis Hastert was a notorious child molester :

A man two heartbeats away from the presidency was a serial child molester

And Trump defender and conservative congressman Republican Jim Jordan is either a pedophile or a pedophile enabler or both: 

Six former wrestlers say Rep. Jim Jordan knew about abusive Ohio State doctor

And everybody knows about pedophilia being rampant among the clergy of the Catholic Church, but apparently it's just as common in overwhelmingly Republican conservative evangelical churches:

The epidemic of denial about sexual abuse in the evangelical church

By the way, this thread started out about mass extinction and astroid deflection, how the hell did we get to pedophilia? It makes me despair, it makes me think that if we ever did discover a Chicxulub sized object that was going to make an Earth impact the world could not make a coordinated response to deflect it because  instead of doing something about it everybody would start bickering about if the astroid was the Republican's fault or the Democrat's and before you know it people will be talking about pedophilia and not the goddamn asteriod. Does everything have to be political, even an asteroid?

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[spudb...@aol.com]

John, me lad, I do believe that BOTH parties are sexually corrupt <==== But to a great point, I Forgive.

I understand and still support, John Fitzgerald Kennedy. Who once joked, while he was married to Jackie, mind you, that, "I am not done with a girl, till I've had her 3 ways. The man was not referring to Skyline Chili either. I was never troubled by Bill Clinton's escapades, even on Epstein Island. I am troubled IF Epstein was murdered, or Frank Rich though!!! Possibility yes, certainty, no!

I do draw the line at pedophile teachers though.  I am believing based on what these actual teachers say on Tik-Tok, teacher meetings, superintendent behavior, dem party feigning ignorance, so as not to Offend voters who support this tacitly or openly. The problem I have is that it fucks young kids up for life is why I oppose. This is why kiddy fiddlers are often killed in prison. Because the sex with young children often turns the victims into criminals like burglars, thieves, etc who wind up themselves, in the klink.

Hey John, because of the dems turning a blind eye to Grooming, and grooming is not simply saying that Gay is Ok, but goes on to get kids to "experiment," often (unsaid) with Teach. Even with  your Abortion success in the polls (women)  against the reps. The kiddy thing will cause as dems to, NOT to vote rep, but simply as a protest to sit out the coming election. Dems usually never cross over, but they do sit-out when displeased. 

You do know my view on abortion being replaced with artificial wombs (a womb with a view) thus displeasing the fanatics on both sides. 

In summary, I vote Rep because they hold the best chance at national survival, where as most of your team has gone wonky. That's why I left. 

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