The best video yet about January 6

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John Clark

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Jul 2, 2021, 12:47:55 PM7/2/21
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This is BY FAR  the best video I've yet seen that documents the events of January 6, minute by minute, as Trump's thugs attempt to take over the government:


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Laff of the day! 

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>> This is BY FAR  the best video I've yet seen that documents the events of January 6, minute by minute, as Trump's thugs attempt to take over the government:
How Trump Supporters Took the U.S. Capitol

> Laff of the day! 

If you find that video to be funny then you are a very sick man.

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Remember John, we have had months of democratic party rioting in democratic party run cities all of 2020. Your estimation of me carries no water because as enter into a time national and perhaps global crisis, I haven't the time for such minor things as meeting a democrats level of approval. As with Orange Man and his voters you and your fellows would do away with us, if and when you can. So you have already, as Dilbert cartoonist, Scott Adams have often said, "talking past the sell." I get where your are coming from but consider the "shock value," you seem to want, irrelevant. This becomes irrelevant as we slide into a national physical split, which I believe is possible and perhaps, inevitable. 

So as to not make your earnest reply of no value, I respond with an nice Youtube video concerning what seems to be a material advance in both resources and production. Enjoy. (non-political)
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On Sun, Jul 4, 2021 at 12:00 AM <spudb...@aol.com> wrote:

> Remember John, we have had months of democratic party rioting in democratic party run cities all of 2020.

Mr. Potato Head, did you actually look at this video?
There is nothing, absolutely positively NOTHING, in all of American history that is comparable with the events of January 6, 2021 that are so well documented in this video; not even during the Civil War did a mob of traitors manage to carry the confederate flag into the US Capitol Building, but Trump's thugs did.  And I repeat the question I've been asking you over and over again but have yet to receive an answer: WHAT THE HELL DOES THE BLACK LIVES MATTERS PROTESTS HAVE TO DO WITH DONALD TRUMP'S  COUP D'ETAT ATTEMPT?!

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The demonstrations last summer were not a Democratic party coordinated set of events. They rather spontaneously happened on their own. To the extent there was rioting, which was not nearly as extensive as you seem to think, it was minor stuff compared to a coordinated attempt to overthrow Congress by a mob incited by t'Rump, where that mob had a measure of planning on the part of various right winged groups such as the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers. 

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You want us all to be nazis because you need us all to be nazis because you hate orange man. The dem voting base wants a dictatorship run by the boards of directors who run your woke corporations, who fund your democrats and and yeah, the reps too. My assertion is: We Agree On Nothing. has meaning What this means is that if we enter hard economic times, which your party will blame on trump and his voters,  it will likely cause a split, perhaps permanent, in the US? It will be exacerbated by political repression via, dem laws and practices of their executive branch. This is a guess on my part and have been wrong before. If things become severe in the US, I ask now, what happens if the trumpkins just walk away from the dem mix of incompetence + fascism? I would opt for the Gandhi response to the corporations and institutions. We will see if things go under, or not? 


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Nada, Lawrence. There is a money line to be followed from the funders of the democratic party, to who gets elected prosecutors, who get to rule on whether arrests are valid, who get to decide on who stayed in jail at a time of plague, to who are the defense attorneys, all SPLC + now the New soviet minded ACLU, providing pro-bono services for the arrested, to calling arson as mostly peaceful from your dnc media, etc, ad nauseum. The protests and riots and arson against police shootings of black males are unplanned, but it is the reaction to such shootings that are obviously coordinated.This, then, is like former mayor, and Obama chief of staff's cogent remark, "never let a good crisis go to waste." For the rightwingers at the capital, it appears that nobody supported them, not even DJT,* but this is the typical repub reaction (elites) they look strictly out for their own asses. 

If there was a conspiracy to rob orange man at the ballot box, (which I have yet to see convincing evidence of), it surely wasn't the recipients' of corporate largesse, BLM +Antifa, but the boards of directors themselves. What motivation you ask? I would say China trade money, Orange man placed trade tariffs on China goods. The big corps wanted their China money back so did the dirty work. Did this happen in real life? Well, we need evidence presented, if true?

What of Joe's future with Chinese empower Xi? Well, even though his family took cash from Xi's CCP, I think he will be treated badly, not because he wants confrontation with Xi, but because Xi and his party wants it. It unites China behind the Party is why. As House Speaker (dem) Tip O'Neal once joked, "Politics is like making love with an 800 lb gorilla. You don't stop when you want to, you stop when the gorilla wants to." Thus, I fear for what Xi will do and how well the US will fare? Also. everyone should keep their eyes on the economy, energy supplies, especially inflation. This then, is what influences politics, and we all must dance whether we wish to or not, Like the Plague dancers of Europe, given Covid, is not entirely unrelated.



* Duly noted that DJT hasn't spoken about the Jan 6 rioters. 

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The demonstrations last summer were not a Democratic party coordinated set of events. They rather spontaneously happened on their own. To the extent there was rioting, which was not nearly as extensive as you seem to think, it was minor stuff compared to a coordinated attempt to overthrow Congress by a mob incited by t'Rump, where that mob had a measure of planning on the part of various right winged groups such as the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers. 

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Remember John, we have had months of democratic party rioting in democratic party run cities all of 2020. Your estimation of me carries no water because as enter into a time national and perhaps global crisis, I haven't the time for such minor things as meeting a democrats level of approval. As with Orange Man and his voters you and your fellows would do away with us, if and when you can. So you have already, as Dilbert cartoonist, Scott Adams have often said, "talking past the sell." I get where your are coming from but consider the "shock value," you seem to want, irrelevant. This becomes irrelevant as we slide into a national physical split, which I believe is possible and perhaps, inevitable. 

So as to not make your earnest reply of no value, I respond with an nice Youtube video concerning what seems to be a material advance in both resources and production. Enjoy. (non-political)
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>> This is BY FAR  the best video I've yet seen that documents the events of January 6, minute by minute, as Trump's thugs attempt to take over the government:
How Trump Supporters Took the U.S. Capitol

> Laff of the day! 

If you find that video to be funny then you are a very sick man.

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On 7/4/2021 4:14 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
You want us all to be nazis because you need us all to be nazis because you hate orange man. The dem voting base wants a dictatorship run by the boards of directors who run your woke corporations, who fund your democrats and and yeah, the reps too. My assertion is: We Agree On Nothing. has meaning What this means is that if we enter hard economic times, which your party will blame on trump and his voters,  it will likely cause a split, perhaps permanent, in the US? It will be exacerbated by political repression via, dem laws and practices of their executive branch. This is a guess on my part and have been wrong before. If things become severe in the US, I ask now, what happens if the trumpkins just walk away from the dem mix of incompetence + fascism?

I'd be satisfied if they just walked away from fascism.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e3T3VHmEkg

Then they could wallow in their own incompetence.

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Sure Brent, these in-bred gestapo lovers can be dangerous, however the pics you simply, while 100% accurate were not taken on cold Jan 6th 2021. Secondly, you disinclude other violent offenders on the USA. 

Here's one.


Number 2 is from the Minneapolis aftermath at the killing of Chauvin-

Number 3 is NYC yesterday celebrating July for by demanding Burn it down.

Now this one, assuming none of these are staged, indicates antifa versus a minor cartel pachuco-
https://twitter.com/i/status/1411817444964974600

This one is simply indicating to me, that NY sucks, and that even "liberal" DiBlasio, with all his socialist (soviet kind) of policies and thinking and ideology solves no problem, because for you guys, it like a religion.    Now, I don't guess that you'd agree with the following statement: "Let us battle nazism, communism, islamism, and globalism" because, trump.

 
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John Clark

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On Sun, Jul 4, 2021 at 7:14 PM <spudb...@aol.com> wrote:

> You want us all to be nazis because you need us all to be nazis because you hate orange man.

If not "Nazi" what would you call Trump's mob of thugs who beat a police officer to death and violently invaded the Capital Building on its most important day in 4 years, when both houses of Congress and the vice president were to certify the election of the next president, all the while carrying confederate flags and Trump flags and smearing their feces on the building's walls and wearing "Camp Auschwitz" sweatshirts? Have you found a new more pleasant euphemism for "Nazi"?

> what happens if the trumpkins just walk away from the dem mix of incompetence + fascism?

If the Democrats really were a mixture of incompetence and fascism then I have no doubt you would be an ardent Democrat as your preferred form of government is clearly a right wing fascist dictatorship, and nobody is more stunningly incompetent than your hero Donald J Trump.

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This Picture was taken on January 6, 2021 in the US Capitol building. The Trump thug on the left wearing the "Camp Auschwitz" shirt is named Robert Keith Packer and he lives in Virginia.

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The officer who died during the riot, unless new evidence has emerged to the contrary, died of a heart attack. Beyond this yeah nazis bad, lets kick them in their balls. Let us also do this to Antifa drones, and Islamists. Good. Dems always look to the past, and what Team DNC now is trying is the American equivalent of calling the Jan 6, the US version of the 1933 Reichstag Fire. As a tactic it works for democrats, but for independent amd rep voters-unlikely. All Don can do is agitate and unless the economy is tanked he will appeal to reps and independents as Bob Dole did in 1996 against Bubba Clinton. You may be obsessed about the man, but I am not. 

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Yeah John, these are Ritchie Spencer's peeps. Spencer was the lad you got into Trump 2016 campaign. Now, I did have blood relatives go up adolf's chimneys, and I tell you the main threat to my or your personal safety are not currently the goose-steppers, but instead, globalist corporations bribing US pols. Secondly, it'd be BLM or Antifa. This is why we must be prepared for whatever nutcase strikes. This means to use and apply the 2nd amendment, and gun up. This is true for everyone because it is the wild west now.  and no, we cannot have a non-violent society that disarms, because John, we at the very least hate each other, and do not trust each other. That is my assessment. 


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> yeah nazis bad

Thanks a bunch for making that courageous statement, but I'd still like to know why you think the January 6 capital building invasion was funny.  

> DNC now is trying is the American equivalent of calling the Jan 6, the US version of the 1933 Reichstag Fire.

I know you didn't actually look at that video I posted about the January 6 Capitol Building invasion by Trump's mob, but if you had maybe you would understand why I'm so mystified by your comments. I watch the video so who do you expect me to believe, my eyes or you?  

> Now, I did have blood relatives go up adolf's chimneys,

Then why the hell do you support people who think the two greatest men in human history are Donald and Adolphe?!
 
> and I tell you the main threat to my or your personal safety are not currently the goose-steppers, but instead, globalist corporations

If you don't like corporations then why the hell do you support Trump and his political party that lowered corporate tax rates, lowered income tax for the super mega ultra rich, and wants to get rid of the inheritance tax so the American aristocracy can continue forever down the generations undiminished in its power.  I'd tell you to watch the excellent video that Lawrence just posted about the wealth gap but I know you won't watch that one anymore than you watch mine about the January 6 coup d'état attempt.  I just don't get you, to me your motivation is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma.

> we must be prepared for whatever nutcase strikes.

Republicans don't yet have a monopoly on nutcases, but thanks to Trump and Qanon they're getting close. 
 
> This means to use and apply the 2nd amendment, and gun up

Yeah, that's the trouble with the world today, there just aren't enough guns.  
 
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I am in no way even sarcastically courageous. I don't see the idiot convention on January 6th as such a big deal. You yourself have basically dismissed the series of riots in 2020, that affected the "little man," in 2020 in their "outrage" over police killings as no big thing. Thus, I too adopt your opinion and become dismissive as well, even though the big wigs were the only ones disturbed while the victims of BLM and Antifa number in the thousands. Do you know what the latest rumor (as yet unproven) was that the shooter of Ashli Babbitt was one of Mike Pence's security. Is this true? No idea. Ironic, if true yes? What was she doing? No answers. So those in power may be looking out strictly for their own asses? That'd be a new one on me, I tell ya. 

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On 7/5/2021 4:39 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
I am in no way even sarcastically courageous. I don't see the idiot convention on January 6th as such a big deal. You yourself have basically dismissed the series of riots in 2020, that affected the "little man," in 2020 in their "outrage" over police killings as no big thing. Thus, I too adopt your opinion and become dismissive as well, even though the big wigs were the only ones disturbed while the victims of BLM and Antifa number in the thousands. Do you know what the latest rumor (as yet unproven) was that the shooter of Ashli Babbitt was one of Mike Pence's security. Is this true? No idea. Ironic, if true yes? What was she doing? No answers. So those in power may be looking out strictly for their own asses? That'd be a new one on me, I tell ya.

That's the kind of dishonest innuendo I expect from a Trumpkin.  The Congressmen were there to validate the peaceful transfer of political power.  The Trumpkins were there to prevent it and to install Trump by a coup.  To overthrow democracy in the U.S.  In no way comparable to a demonstration against police brutality.  Let's see you cite data on the number of "victims of BLM and Antifa".    You just spew out crap from Infowars

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Ah, innuendo from a Trumpy person, moi?

You know, I stumbled upon (yes really) this academic study and it seems to fit the truth. It is not our Trumpkin selves that have gone off the map, but the Wokies that will initiate what appears, given a crisis, will be a national conflict. 

Cast thy Fascist hating eyes in this direction and render forth your reply-

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On Mon, Jul 5, 2021 at 6:17 PM <spudb...@aol.com> wrote:
 
> I tell you the main threat to my or your personal safety are not currently the goose-steppers, but instead, globalist corporations bribing US pols.

No, bribery is illegal and what those corporations did was not illegal. And why is it not illegal? Why are super mega ultra rich people and corporations allowed to give as much money as they like to politicians for their election campaigns? Because of the Supreme Court's 2010 Citizens United decision. And why did the Supreme Court decide that way?  Because right wing judges were appointed by right wing Republicans to be on that court. Today the supreme court is even more right wing than it was then because, although Republicans have lost the popular vote in 7 of the last 8 presidential elections, nevertheless Republican presidents have appointed 6 of the 9 members currently on the Supreme Court, including 3 that were appointed by the only President in American history to opposed the peaceful transfer of power when his term ended.

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I don't see us disagreeing on the effects of the Citizens United ruling of 2010. It made things worse, if one doesn't like an oligarchy? This is also a reason to disdain a political system, where the "Rule of law," by John Adams, simply ends up being the Rule by Lawyers. We need a change but to what and how? I am all ears and am merely one more peasant who likes the idea of a better government system-better for the middle class. 


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