NYTimes.com: Biden Administration Clamps Down on China’s Access to Chip Technology

[John Clark]

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Biden Administration Clamps Down on China’s Access to Chip Technology

The White House issued sweeping restrictions on selling semiconductors and chip-making equipment to China, an attempt to curb the country’s access to critical technologies.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/07/business/economy/biden-chip-technology.html?unlocked_article_code=Pk-_gnWZSGN9nL3hfQSuGW1ee4_EpNj8zujwviS6I8udi_l8dDxKMXBvuqptaNOf9XBQACerQBFH3fTinVa5F0Ka_rivaMqcILgN_lllLpClE2l_qUBU_r-BXPrN05Y5asVKohanN2G5X7y3L1AggtQdZqD9p1qJNP7eNAP6dN--5V67Vi-lih58RntJQ0PVGGXfwupDtg_FCHxx1IfdBzKw8AXK5B7dcAGyrdd7CGiE6l5OMyHKQJWHyy59n33XHiUw57Wks0-xIZkchP1KgJc_JEGYKh14ApVx2UsWQba51s86EgGNltbAhx1GZcsF2JQyd7HE3XbuZt1kl-EBEMLD6vxgvYAQ&smid=em-share

[spudb...@aol.com]

It's good thing, yes. But it is one good thing in a tidal wave of deliberate loses with the CCP. They buy land in the US and set up spy centers, apparently not interfered with. 

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/five-individuals-charged-variously-stalking-harassing-and-spying-us-residents-behalf-prc-0

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/fbi-director-wray-says-scale-chinese-spying-us-blew-away-rcna14369

https://nypost.com/2022/09/13/biden-spokesman-john-kirby-dismisses-us-land-grab-by-chinese-as-a-home-ownership-issue/

It's something that seems to be that the CCP throws cash around worldwide and even to Joe and family. The Academics take cash from the CCP in the form of Confucius Institutes at Public Universities. The elites seem to view themselves as insulated from any damage the CCP causes us. I don't see this faulty view surviving any PLA attack on the US in the Pacific or, yes, even elsewhere.

 From last year, even George S. opposed the Fink-Blackrock investment in CCP ruled China (stub).

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-09-07/george-soros-calls-blackrock-s-china-investment-tragic-mistake

My point is I could see Larry Fink and the other billionaires (Gates?) fleeing to China, after a Chinese attack, to avoid the lynch mob. 

These elites are so separated by daily experience from the commoners that we can easily have a Titanic Event (whence it tried to sail over the iceberg) because of this? They may have already planned for this eventuality, and how would we even know?

Yes, Joey done good on the chips, but we are retrograde on so many other areas of self imposed vulnerability, that it may not matter over the next year or two? 

Peace Out JC.

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[John Clark]

On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 6:36 PM <spudb...@aol.com> wrote:

 > I could see Larry Fink and the other billionaires (Gates?) fleeing to China, after a Chinese attack, to avoid the lynch mob. 

Spud, you claim to hate communism but apparently you've never heard the saying the enemy of my enemy is my friend. If there's one Group that hates communism even more than you do it's capitalists, haven't you noticed they've been cracking down on their own billionaires, "re-educating" them and putting them in prison at an exponential rate?  And if Bill Gates is a villain then I say three cheers for villainy because Bill Gates has saved more lives than any living person, perhaps more than anybody in human history.

> They may have already planned for this eventuality, and how would we even know?

You really need to get a new bullshit detector, your old one is clearly defective; you think any sort of nonsense that some jackass types out on the Internet needs to be taken seriously, provided of course it's right-wing nonsense and not left-wing nonsense. 

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[spudb...@aol.com]

No, I get that "enemy of my enemy," but in real life this only works occasionally, and most often not for long.

The Commies don't hate Caps as long as they benefit, savvy. In Russia, In China, Venezuela.

I expect people to lie John, or in the sciences, to lie by exaggeration. Like with claimed advances.

In politics, they lie about their own sides virtuousness aka virtue signalling. Example, both parties: "We're not haters, racists." 

For me, if one has greater goals, we set aside our petty racism and bigotry in order to achieve the greater goals. 

John if you wish to see cryonics and safe molten salt reactors succeed, we ought to be able to set aside our rage for the greater goal? Both have high cost and we'd need to fund these massively, but they possess a very high return on investment, once achieved. 

My beef with the progressive billionaires is that say despite the Bill & Linda Gates Foundations work against malaria and the West Nile virus, his dealing with the Xi regime bring even more people, especially Americans into threat. Yes, I know that Billy is funding an MSR (travelling wave reactor) in Canada. Both you and Bill are counting upon Xi and the CCP not attacking, and this is a bet I won't make. 

Moral? Even if you do good, if you do enough bad, the bad drives out the good. Your fellow Texan Lyndon Johnson is an example. 

So what do we do, knowing this? Nothing. Because we have zero power of persuasion because we ain't rich and cannot bribe politicians like the very rich do. 

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Oh by the way John, here is something MSR friendly, article-wise. 

https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/05/micro_molten_salt_reactor/

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[John Clark]

On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 9:07 PM <spudb...@aol.com> wrote:

> The Commies don't hate Caps as long as they benefit,

Spud, you hate capitalists and you hate non-capitalists, so who do you like? Do you hate everybody? And ask capitalistic Chinese billionaires if they have benefited from the Chinese communists:

China’s tech tycoons lose $87bn of wealth after Beijing crackdown

Outspoken billionaire Sun Dawu jailed for 18 years in China

Fortune of Jailed Chinese Billionaire’s Family Survives in Exile

The Mystery of the Exiled Billionaire Whistle-Blower

And Russian billionaires aren't doing much better, especially now with the Ukraine war:

Exiled oligarch who spent a decade in a Russian prison predicts the Ukraine war will end Putin's regime

> My beef with the progressive billionaires is that say despite the Bill & Linda Gates Foundations work against malaria and the West Nile virus, his dealing with the Xi regime bring even more people, especially Americans into threat.

Like it or not the fact is Xi is one of the most powerful men in the world, so if you wanna make major improvements to the world you can't just ignore him, you must "deal" with him the best you can.  And if you insist on keeping Bill Gates on your rogues gallery of villains then it just makes your entire list look ridiculous. Ask yourself one question, would the world have been a better place if Bill Gates had never been born? I would answer that with a resounding NO.

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[spudb...@aol.com]

John, its this simply; both capitalists and non-capitalists do harm to the rest of us. Yeah, I hate everybody. There's a lot to hate and a lot of power distributed upwards to the "Ruling Class," who seem to rule rather poorly. This low quality of rule is rather uninterrupted, thus, no chance for self correction. 

Many of the party members are these billionaire$. Under Chairman Xi, he has punished the moderating influence of some billionaires who do not want the gravy train ended via a war with the US. Xi sees a war as Chinese destiny for global control and that the only way is to destroy the US. This is an act of faith. Like Putin. 

You could've said the same thing with Adolf, but some people you cannot deal with. Many of the elite in the US will continue bad policies and you will follow out of group loyalty. US billionaire loyal to a  Chinese dictator who seeks American annihilation is probably a bad thing. But for some he finds The Party, so we can't say no to Gates!!!

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[John Clark]

On Wed, Oct 12, 2022 at 10:12 AM <spudb...@aol.com> wrote:

> John, its this simply; both capitalists and non-capitalists do harm to the rest of us. Yeah, I hate everybody. There's a lot to hate

I don't get you. If everybody is hateful and it's all just a rat race why do you give a damn who ends up being the Boss Rat? You might want to entertain the notion that maybe just maybe you are not the only moral being in the observable universe. And maybe your understanding about how the world works has not come directly from God, maybe that email address you have is not really God's, maybe it's that of a Nigerian prince.   

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[spudb...@aol.com]

Some tyrants actually allow us to live. It's all about policy. Your team grooves on Personality Uber Alles. I go for Policy above all. For example the policy of Joey is mixed, The Capitalist Policy of Fink at Blackrock is China Uber Alles.

I rate Joey as far better, even though he accepted bribes from Xi, then then Fink of Blackrock.

I oppose the Soros Family paying for the campaigns of soviet DA's in dem ruled zones, which have obviously slaughtered hundreds with this Hug the Thug policy in Your cities, John. BUTT! I support Soros's criticism of Black Rock dropping 9 trillion into Comrade Xi's mouth in 2021. 

Allow me to illuminate this JC. A year ago...

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-09-07/george-soros-calls-blackrock-s-china-investment-tragic-mistake

So I oppose the Soros Thug releasing, but endorse the condemning of Larry Fink. 

Policy is everything as in the saying, actions speak louder then words. 

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[John Clark]

On Wed, Oct 12, 2022 at 3:20 PM <spudb...@aol.com> wrote:

> I rate Joey as far better, even though he accepted bribes from Xi,

Your worldview is childish, you believe all foreign relations, if not all human interactions, can be explained by simply saying somebody got bribed.  Everybody accepts bribes, except for you of course, but is that because you are incorruptible or because nobody has bothered to make you an offer?

> Policy is everything as in the saying, actions speak louder then words. 

Actions like subverting the constitution and staging a coup d'état?  

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[spudb...@aol.com]

You may be correct, but so many the world over, leaders, seemed to be comprehendible to BF Skinner, or  Pavlov. 

Their publics are amendable too. I am quoting former Sec of State under Bush 41, James Baker the 3rd, Oil Exec and House of Ibn Saud pal, when he stated: "Bribe the Bastards." Baker also once said, "Fuck the Jews," which is sometimes understandable, but generally not during his reign in the State Department. 

In other words, because somebody is a nasty piece of work, doesn't mean one should fore-go a learning opportunity. 

When I say bribe it need not be a Cash Payment JC. For me, and possibly yourself, it could be a massive R&D project, to you yourself might find....irresistible?  Now, if I, a vile Trump voter came down on say, perfecting cryonics to extend and secure a better quality of life for all. would you object? To be more precise, I propose a 50 billion dollar baseline funding over 6 years, uniting teams of biologists and chemists across the globe to secure extended lifespans as well as better health.

I also propose boosts in the implementation of renewable energy and molten salt reactors to power civilization forever. Again, the same financial model to boost technological achievement in a short time. Throw billions in cash as well as hired scientists and engineers to actually....achieve he goal. Nothing half-assed. Looking back, on the cryonics thing, I add 10 billion for developing into an industry, Tissue engineering, to successfully grow and install all organs, muscles, bones, nerves. Medical computing the same, artifical limbs that function superbly. 

So is my evil plan JC, capitalist or socialist? Who cares, the main thing is that it succeeds, and yes,  for the rich, provides a Return On Investment of Taxpayer Cash. Why should the taxpayer also receive a kickback? 

So is this Trumpkin so awful now? Maybe yes. Yet, as Comrade Stalin wrote, "We are fellow travelers comrades."

Stalin ain't my hero, but like I stated earlier one can even learn a thing or two from the bastards of the world...if one is not too proud? 

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[John Clark]

On Wed, Oct 12, 2022 at 9:25 PM <spudb...@aol.com> wrote:

> When I say bribe it need not be a Cash Payment JC. For me, and possibly yourself, it could be a massive R&D project, to you yourself might find....irresistible?  Now, if I, a vile Trump voter came down on say, perfecting cryonics to extend and secure a better quality of life for all. would you object? 

Of course I would not object! If I sincerely believe that the world will become a better place if the government spends money on project X even if you consider the fact that all projects have a cost then I would do everything within my power (which isn't much) to make project X happen. But then why the hell do you call such a benevolent thing a "bribe"? A bribe implies something that is sinister, underhanded and shameful, this is none of those things, the world would be a far worse place if such "bribes" did not occur. If you insist on using that word then you're going to have to invent a new word for the old meaning of the word "bribe" because the English language needs such a word if it wishes to describe the world.        

> So is this Trumpkin so awful now?

Yes. It would be an accurate use of the word bribe to say that Trump tried to bribe President Volodymyr Zelenskyy by saying he would send Javelin anti-tank missiles to Ukraine only if he harms his political opponent by publicly announcing an investigation of Hunter Biden,  he need not actually conduct an investigation, he just needs to PUBLICLY announce it. Trump was being sinister, underhanded and shameful, certainly if Barack Obama had done something like that you'd be foaming at the mouth with indignation, so the word "bribe" is perfectly appropriate.

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[spudb...@aol.com]

You know, I have never blamed the Ukraine invasion on Trump or Joey. The Europeans, yeah, because they insisted on Russian gas. I do think that Putin and friends say Biden as a pushover, whereas the other fellow could go nuts. I believe the blame is entirely on the Russians. Because, those aren't Thai troops in the Ukraine. Plus, Putin to land grab during Obama, so I am forced to conclude there is a real dynamic here, that you ignore at national peril.

My point on Policy, not Personality, still holds. My own view and screw what I think because I am but a serf, is I would have in 2012 gone for either Rubio as prez in order to steel the Latino vote out from under you, and say, white-aryan Romeny as a pampered, patrician, in any case. Romney is also a pushover. 

In any case the eyes on the prize is what we spend on R&D and in what areas, if you want a better world, because politics, a feature of democratic party attorneys, seems like an ugly failure to me. 

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