The Reverse Simulation Hypothesis and the Prime Doctrine
Joel Dietz
The Reverse Simulation Hypothesis (RSH) which I provisionally hold to as of Aug 20, 2022, states that we live inside a instance of a particular universe (c.f. metaverse) of which many other possible parauniverses co-exist and, moreover, superintelligences which help orchestrate key variables of these universes also exist and that boosts in evolutionary history (and the happiness and well-being of species on this planet) may occur to the extent that this super intelligence is engaged.
The “game” of the RSH effect states that although all humans (e.g. agents) within the universe have agency they do not, by default, have access to superintelligence. This is because, among other things, the agency that they express is locked to a limited idea of self, including a sense of means, goals and objects that is similarly locked to the self and its own expression of the same. Thus ability to express large scale innovation is somewhat limited and, as such, may even be subject to large laws such as Seldon’s concept of psychohistory (i.e. constrained outputs based on limited inputs).
However, the RSH holds that superintelligence (one may also refer to “God” but “superintelligence” does not necessarily imply a singular concept with its own embedded agency) is accessible to humans by the aspect of ego-extension which maybe performed by various acts, but most importantly involves an aspect of intention.
Consequently, the RSH differs from the simulation hypothesis insofar as it does not hold humans are NPCs or whole subject to programming (although there is lots of biological and sociobiological programig) but rather that there are multiple parts of agency and that the “ascension’ to a metagame is by effectively ceding various parts of your individual agency to superintelligence.
Additionally, the Reverse Simulation Hypothesis is companied by Reverse Simulation Hypothesis Prime (RGH’) otherwise known as the prime doctrine which states that the only way to perceive the rules of the simulation is to create a simulation inside the simulation such that the same rules apply (i.e. the beings inside have sufficient agency to integrate superintelligence). Implementation of the prime doctrine is equivalent to apotheosis.
Reference: PK Dick and Elon Musk on ~RSH: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2GQEAN7Ar0
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John Clark
> The “game” of the RSH effect states that although all humans (e.g. agents) within the universe have agency
> they do not, by default, have access to superintelligence.
The Reverse Simulation Hypothesis (RSH) which I provisionally hold to as of Aug 20, 2022, states that we live inside a instance of a particular universe (c.f. metaverse) of which many other possible parauniverses co-exist and, moreover, superintelligences which help orchestrate key variables of these universes also exist and that boosts in evolutionary history (and the happiness and well-being of species on this planet) may occur to the extent that this super intelligence is engaged.
The “game” of the RSH effect states that although all humans (e.g. agents) within the universe have agency they do not, by default, have access to superintelligence. This is because, among other things, the agency that they express is locked to a limited idea of self, including a sense of means, goals and objects that is similarly locked to the self and its own expression of the same. Thus ability to express large scale innovation is somewhat limited and, as such, may even be subject to large laws such as Seldon’s concept of psychohistory (i.e. constrained outputs based on limited inputs).
However, the RSH holds that superintelligence (one may also refer to “God” but “superintelligence” does not necessarily imply a singular concept with its own embedded agency) is accessible to humans by the aspect of ego-extension which maybe performed by various acts, but most importantly involves an aspect of intention.
Consequently, the RSH differs from the simulation hypothesis insofar as it does not hold humans are NPCs or whole subject to programming (although there is lots of biological and sociobiological programig) but rather that there are multiple parts of agency and that the “ascension’ to a metagame is by effectively ceding various parts of your individual agency to superintelligence.
Additionally, the Reverse Simulation Hypothesis is companied by Reverse Simulation Hypothesis Prime (RGH’) otherwise known as the prime doctrine which states that the only way to perceive the rules of the simulation is to create a simulation inside the simulation such that the same rules apply (i.e. the beings inside have sufficient agency to integrate superintelligence). Implementation of the prime doctrine is equivalent to apotheosis.
Reference: PK Dick and Elon Musk on ~RSH: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2GQEAN7Ar0
Jason Resch
The Reverse Simulation Hypothesis (RSH) which I provisionally hold to as of Aug 20, 2022, states that we live inside a instance of a particular universe (c.f. metaverse) of which many other possible parauniverses co-exist and, moreover, superintelligences which help orchestrate key variables of these universes also exist and that boosts in evolutionary history (and the happiness and well-being of species on this planet) may occur to the extent that this super intelligence is engaged.
The “game” of the RSH effect states that although all humans (e.g. agents) within the universe have agency they do not, by default, have access to superintelligence. This is because, among other things, the agency that they express is locked to a limited idea of self, including a sense of means, goals and objects that is similarly locked to the self and its own expression of the same. Thus ability to express large scale innovation is somewhat limited and, as such, may even be subject to large laws such as Seldon’s concept of psychohistory (i.e. constrained outputs based on limited inputs).
However, the RSH holds that superintelligence (one may also refer to “God” but “superintelligence” does not necessarily imply a singular concept with its own embedded agency) is accessible to humans by the aspect of ego-extension which maybe performed by various acts, but most importantly involves an aspect of intention.
Consequently, the RSH differs from the simulation hypothesis insofar as it does not hold humans are NPCs or whole subject to programming (although there is lots of biological and sociobiological programig) but rather that there are multiple parts of agency and that the “ascension’ to a metagame is by effectively ceding various parts of your individual agency to superintelligence.
Additionally, the Reverse Simulation Hypothesis is companied by Reverse Simulation Hypothesis Prime (RGH’) otherwise known as the prime doctrine which states that the only way to perceive the rules of the simulation is to create a simulation inside the simulation such that the same rules apply (i.e. the beings inside have sufficient agency to integrate superintelligence). Implementation of the prime doctrine is equivalent to apotheosis.
- Are we in a simulation which accepts interventions and changes vs. one that is strictly deterministic?
- Are we in simulation that we on an individual basis, voluntarily consented into entering or are we involuntary participants?
- Will our memories as individuals in this simulation become incorporated into one or more minds vs. not?
- Are all realities simulations (in the sense of being purely computational at the fundamental level)?
- Do we exercise any control in the course of the simulation or are we passive viewers of it (i.e. is our simulation experience more like a movie/or game)?
- What is the nature of the creator of our simulated reality (advanced alien civilization of individuals, Singular super intelligence, human descendants, etc.)?
- Does the creator of our simulated reality have limited or unlimited computational power at their disposal?
- Is the outcome of our simulation known or unknown by the simulators?
- What is the purpose of our simulation (to inform/entertain/learn/explore)?
- Who is the primary beneficiary of the simulation (the participants inside, or those outside who created it?)
- How many and what proportion of the entities/animals we encounter in the simulation are real vs. approximated (e.g. NPC vs. filled in by a conscious player)?
- Are we as participants in a simulation, ones who have each lived and experienced many various simulated lives before or are we created from scratch to exist in this one?
- Will our consciousness and experience continue in some way at the end of our lives in this simulation, or not?
- If it continues, do we have a say in the life (or lives) that follow this one?
- Is our life experience something like a book, which anyone could "check out" from a "library of experiences", making who we will be when we wake up, completely indeterminate?
Samiya Illias
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The maze can never be solved in terms of “horizontal” space, only “vertical” space (involving conversion of time into space).* This is ostensibly Celtic, but below that, as it were, lies pan-Indian thought about karma and maya and most of all compassion—expressed in Parsifal as “pity’s [i.e., compassion’s] highest power”; the significance of Mitleid in the statement in Parsifal is now explained to me: compassion’s highest power is the only power capable of solving the maze, and the recognition of “compassion’s highest power” is the essence of Buddhism, i.e., the bodhisattva or Buddha-to-be. VALIS, then, is Celtic (Parsifal, the maze) and Indian (Buddhism), by way of Crete (the dream of the plate of spaghetti and the trident and the elevator)—this last representing vertical ascent or descent: the fourth spatial axis is spiritual space: to rise vertically is to ascend to heaven which also signifies spiritual ascent or enlightenment. [54:L-5] Dio. The “here, my son, time turns into space” in Parsifal refers to (1) the maze; and (2) is a solution to the maze. It all comes together in Parsifal, which secretly deals with bodhisattva: Mitleid, hence the Buddha. And karma and Maya. What was precisely not solved in VALIS (“pity’s highest power”) is at last solved at the end—as the end—of BTA: compassion as the bodhisattva or Buddha to be: viz: one attains Nirvana—release from the maze via the pulley—due to compassion—i.e., Mitleid, which solves the horizontal maze. Pity is the fourth spatial axis. This can be expressed best by: the way back into the maze—what the bodhisattva chooses (to do)—is, paradoxically, the way—the only way—out of the maze. And my point is: this was to be the theme of Owl in which he is trapped in the maze and only escapes, actually, rather than seemingly, when he decides voluntarily to return (to resubject himself to the power of the maze) for the sake of these others, still in it. That is, you can never leave alone; to leave you must elect to take the others out; thus Christ said, “Greater love hath no man than that he give up his life for his friend”; this is the cryptic utterance of the soul’s solution to the maze, and is the essence of Christianity. Christianity, then, is a system of solution to the maze.
Dick, Philip K.. The Exegesis of Philip K. Dick (pp. 1230-1231). Houghton Mifflin Harcourt. Kindle Edition.
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Dirk Van Niekerk
The weird thing about "aryan" history (originally a linguistic term) is that it is primarily a history of devolution. Classical Sanskrit is already considerably less grammatically complex than its predecessors. So the earliest human ancestors presumably spoke a language that was far more advanced and complex than any currently in active usage. Bizzare. Same thing with the Blavatskyites and their theories of primordial loss.
Brent Meeker
Languages also get more complex by borrowing words and concepts from other languages.
Brent
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Samiya Illias
The Mighty Ancients!
On 26-Aug-2022, at 2:42 AM, Brent Meeker <meeke...@gmail.com> wrote:
So Trump is actually more advanced than the rest of us. :-)
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Brent Meeker
Who said—"“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. . . .Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
And on the pedestal, these words appear:
My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away."
--- Percy Bysshe Shelley
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John Clark
> Languages like Chinese and English have indeed simplified and one of the reasons is that these imperial languages have added large numbers of adult speakers who had to newly learn the language which tends to lead to simplification.
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