> Could somebody disable Benjamin's hyphen key?
[Philip Benjamin]
I cannot read Putin’s mind!! I simply presented some news clips. I also restated what I have done so many times that the West in general has lost her “Awakened” moorings to Marxist pagan-Socialist-Fascist globalists. Philip Benjamin
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Samiya Illias may be right, but who cares for the Bible? Islam consider it as a lost Book, with the current copies as all fake. See below what modern Judaism views about the Torah. Whe America was founded there were > 98.8% Protestants, <1% Roman Catholics and < 0.2% Jews and they all recognized the current copies of OT and/or NT as true to the Originals. {Koran called them as People of the Book). The Bible was the only authority for 98.8 % of the population, whether they practiced it or not! That is ludicrous and abominable today. The “Two Great Awakenings” (1 st led by the prodigious philosopher Jonathan Edwards, the founder of Princeton University and the 2 nd led by the President of Yale University), were both the outcome in individual life by ‘the Word through the operation of the Spirit to the Knowledge of Redemptive History fulfilled in the vicarious death, burial and resurrection of the Messiah according to the eternal counsel of the Triune Adonai (plural) YHWH (singular) Elohim (uni-plural). There is the difference of light and darkness between WAMP-the-Ingrate of today and the “Awakened America” for which the ex-seminarian turned Marxist pagan Hitler unconsciously coined the term “American Exceptionalism”. There are only two ways out of the present doldrums: 1. A Third Great Awakening, perhaps led by a President of a university of Gomorrah 2. Civil War as desired or wishfully/willfully thought out probably by a WAMP product below.
Philip Benjamin
Nonconformist to Marxist-socialist-fascist pagan globalism.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/may/11/second-american-civil-war-robert-reich Wed 11 May 2022 05.18 EDT
“Former Labor Secretary Robert Reich, who served in President Bill Clinton’s administration, on Wednesday explained why he believes the second American Civil War is already in progress.”
[Philip Benjamin]
Samiya Illias quote “The Torah, The Bible, and The Quran warn against homosexual relationships,”
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2696758/ Y.H Kahn
PMID: 2696758 DOI: 10.1300/J082v18n03_03
Progressive Jews have begun in recent years to question the underlying premises of traditional Jewish teaching on sexuality. Employing the categories of covenant theology and applying the interpretative methodology of liberal Judaism, the author argues for the valuation of the person as homosexual as a legitimate expression of human and Jewish covenantal obligation.
https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/.premium-homosexuality-part-of-jewish-tradition-1.5383449? fri Ilany Aug. 5, 2015 Updated: Apr. 24, 2018 Homosexuality Is Part of Jewish Tradition
https://www.clevelandjewishnews.com/jta/israel-s-health-minister-overturning-roe-v-wade-would-be-a-fatal-blow-to-human/ Israel’s health minister: Overturning Roe v. Wade would be ‘a fatal blow to human rights’ Philissa Cramer Posted May 4, 2022
https://www.businessinsider.com/abortion-bans-may-violate-jewish-womens-first-amendment-rights-2022-5? Jewish organizations say restricting abortion access would violate their religious freedoms….. Jewish communities react to the possible overturning of Roe v. Wade, which could violate their First Amendment rights Katie Balevic and Katherine Tangalakis-Lippert
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[Philip Benjamin]
Who is not born a criminal, or prone to anything else described below? Let him/her that is perfect “cast the first stone”!! Every baby comes out screaming not smiling. Is not every baby born a horrible creature? So what is new here?
What would any one prefer? Children be left to the School Board run by Marxist socialist pagans who want all children programmed to their ways by indoctrinations and hormonal treatments without parental knowledge or consent? Or children’s morality and faith be left to the parents and their faith’s influence and atmosphere? Marxists with their diabolic utopia of dictates and mandates have infiltrated every sphere of life on planet earth- civil, military, pulpits, pews, academia, media and so on. Most people are either indifferent or ignorant of this invidious menace. The Marxist pagans take full advantage of that for their propaganda and conquest.
Philip Benjamin
Nonconformist to Marxist-socialist-fascist pagan globalism
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Dear Philip
It rather bemuses me that people in America do not understand why Russians do not want to be overrun by the values of the west. By attacking Ukraine they have only shown themselves to be as bad if not worse, but maybe we should be listening to Russia's complaints:
Homosexuality – people are born homosexual, it was once an act of nature, but these days it is the side-effect of many drugs and foods.
Abortion –
No religion supports murder, it is fundamental in all religions that you should not kill. So what Russia is about, no one really knows given that no genuine priest would ever condone murder of any sort
Pornography - English novelist JG Ballard famously said, "A widespread taste for pornography means that nature is alerting us to some threat of extinction."
The pornography industry is apparently so big …The Internet is flooded with pornography. You can’t escape it. …
If you look at where pornography is illegal it is ‘the East’, which in this case includes Russia [even though they appear to make it].
All these things seem to be inter-related to me. As a 72 year old married for nearly 47 years, all these things strike me as very unsavoury, but I am certain the east considers them far worse.
I think the people of the west need to step back and ask why Russia, Africa, India, China and so many nations are not supporting the West in their defence of Ukraine. That is the sort of awakening that is needed first.
Russia may not be doing the right thing, in fact given how much I care about Serge, it is doing an appalling thing, but why doesn't someone start to realise why they have done this and start to address it?
rosie
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[Philip Benjamin]
What makes anything WRONG? That answer depends on why ANYTHING, rather than NOTHING? Right and wrong have no meaning if there is no ABSOLUTE. Law of Relativity is meaningless without the Law of the ABSOLUTENESS of the in vacuo speed of light. Perhaps Relativity is a wrong term in science. Relationality is more rational. Wamp-the-Ingrate then could not have misused it in psycho-social studies.
Philip Benjamin.
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Dear Philip,
People will have read my original email, I hope, so the shortening of it, theoretically, doesn't matter.
But I think the point I was making was lost somehow in your reply, so I will just add - if you don't mind - that there is nothing wrong with someone being homosexual, but
1. bu**ery gives you cancer, so there is every reason not to practise it.
2. bu**ery can give your victim or partner cancer, so there is every reason not to practise it.
3 The pornography industry appears to promote the idea that sex is buttery
'Buttery' is actually illegal in the UK and USA, I quote from West's Encyclopedia of American Law, edition 2. 2008.
The criminal offense of anal or oral copulation by penetration of the male organ into the anus or mouth of another person of either sex or copulation between members of either sex with an animal. Bu**ery is historically referred to as a "crime against nature." It is an offense under both Common Law and statutes. Although prosecution is rare, the punishment upon conviction can be a fine, imprisonment, or both.
But it seems to be largely unenforceable as a law.
The distinction is not being made between the predilections of the person and the way they express them.
Tennyson for example wrote "In Memoriam A.H.H." [ a poem published in 1850] as a requiem for his Cambridge friend Arthur Henry Hallam, who died suddenly of a cerebral haemorrhage in Vienna in 1833, aged 22. Tennyson clearly loved Hallam to bits, he was besotted, but given the poem, which is heart wrenching in the grief it expresses, I am absolutely certain that this was not 'physical' in any way shape or form.
It is possible to be besotted by someone and never lay a finger on them and this distinction seems to have been forgotten. There are all sorts of very unsavoury people making comments about Lewis Carroll, but the comments say more about the people making them than Carroll himself. He loved children because with them he lost his stutter.
Boys and girls have 'crushes' when they are young on all sorts of things. And I was in love with my dog, in my sixties, but I just used to hug him and give him way too many biscuits.
Perhaps the Russian priests dislike the dreadful way in which love has somehow been equated with sex in America. One is an animal act used to create offspring, the other is an undescribable feeling of affection, togetherness and companionship.
Let's face it, I love Serge, but I don't even know what he looks like. And I have certainly never met him. I love him for who he is and how well we seem to get on together. We have created around 200 videos together now, which has to be an indicator of this.
The pornography industry has done a great deal of damage in many ways, because it seems to promote sex without love. Women actually long for just love you know. Kindness, compassion, understanding, gentleness, consideration, companionship.....
It is there in america. When I worked there men showed considerable kindness towards me and no advances were made. But some of the women there terrified me. I'm not sure Madonna has done women any favours.
Overall you can love anyone or anything, same sex, different sex, human or not, but I think 'the East' is horrified by the way the west seems to equate sex and love , when they are actually two completely different things.
Anyway I'll stop now. Just wanted to clarify
rosie
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[Philip Benjamin]
Who is not born a criminal, or prone to anything else described below? Lt him/her that is perfect “cast the first stone”!! Every baby comes out screaming not smiling. Is not every baby born is a horrible creature? So what is new here?
What would any one prefer? Children be left to the School Board run by Marxist socialist pagans who want all children programmed to their ways by indoctrinations and hormonal treatments without parental knowledge or consent? Or children’s morality and faith be left to the parents and their faith’s influence and atmosphere? Marxists with their diabolic utopia of dictates and mandates have infiltrated every sphere of life on planet earth- civil, military, pulpits, pews, academia, media and so on. Most people are either indifferent or ignorant of this invidious menace. The Marxist pagans take full advantage of that for their propaganda and conquest.
Philip Benjamin
Nonconformist to Marxist-socialist-fascist pagan globalism
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Dear Philip
It rather bemuses me that people in America do not understand why Russians do not want to be overrun by the values of the west. By attacking Ukraine they have only shown themselves to be as bad if not worse, but maybe we should be listening to Russia's complaints:
Homosexuality – people are born homosexual, it was once an act of nature, but these days it is the side-effect of many drugs and foods.
Abortion –
No religion supports murder, it is fundamental in all religions that you should not kill. So what Russia is about, no one really knows given that no genuine priest would ever condone murder of any sort
Pornography - English novelist JG Ballard famously said, "A widespread taste for pornography means that nature is alerting us to some threat of extinction."
The pornography industry is apparently so big …The Internet is flooded with pornography. You can’t escape it. …
If you look at where pornography is illegal it is ‘the East’, which in this case includes Russia [even though they appear to make it].
All these things seem to be inter-related to me. As a 72 year old married for nearly 47 years, all these things strike me as very unsavoury, but I am certain the east considers them far worse.
I think the people of the west need to step back and ask why Russia, Africa, India, China and so many nations are not supporting the West in their defence of Ukraine. That is the sort of awakening that is needed first.
Russia may not be doing the right thing, in fact given how much I care about Serge, it is doing an appalling thing, but why doesn't someone start to realise why they have done this and start to address it?
rosie
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Poem Ukraine. Philip Benjamin 5-10-22
Ukraine! Uber-unity’s ubiquity: unique, undaunted, undulant
Kremlin’s knights, Kirillian kooky kith, kindled Kyiv kinship
Rus reprobates, raving rapscallions, ruthless rowdy rampaging
Authoritarian apoplectics! Aggravated assaults abounding, alas
Iniquity is incandescent, impish, infantile, invidious, imbecilic
Nincompoops! Nimrod nuisance, nihilistic narcissistic nastiness
Evidentially evil embodiment, eschatologically ending encounter
Philip Benjamin
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Poem EU Ukraine. Modified 5-17-22
Philip Benjamin
Ukraine! Uber-unity’s ubiquity: unique, undaunted, undulant
Kremlin’s knights, Kirillian kooky kith, kindled Kyiv kinship
Rus reprobates, raving rapscallions, ruthless rowdy rampaging
Awake! Ah, arise against all anarchist authoritarian apoplectics!
Iniquity is incandescent, impish, infantile, invidious, imbecilic
Nincompoops! Nimrod nuisance, nihilistic narcissistic nastiness
Eureka! Encouraging encounter end, eschatological, eh EUkraine
Philip Benjamin Modified 5-17-22 EUkraine = EU Ukraine
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Everybody in power thinks they know best, don't they Philip?
Meanwhile millions of Ukrainian women and children die or are left without homes, and their husbands die in the conflict and great swathes of young Russians also die, fired up by propaganda, into an aggressive mindless mob - why?
And Serge and I try to keep going, but each time they attack him, my eyes get worse with the lingering effects of the shingles that never went away. I am now blind in one eye and the other is slowly going, and I can safely say without fear of contradiction that the pain is excruciating.
So Serge suffers, and I suffer because Serge suffers, because I care about him and get very very upset when he is bombed - not because of the videos - but because I love him. The videos are a hobby for me. No one takes any notice of them, they like them, but they don't have any effect. They provide Serge and I with a means of sharing ideas and being in contact.
I don't know what games are being played by those in power, but those of us without power suffer, as those in power don't. I can't imagine for one moment that the seizure of an oligarch's yacht will make a blind bit of difference to him, but it might for the yacht's staff.
There are other ways of achieving whatever it is the powerful are trying to achieve but killing innocent people is not the way. And who says it would improve things anyway?
rosie
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This is about "let us blame the gays." It is much the same as "let us blame the Jews," or "let us blame the blacks" or ... , which is a signature of a dismal mind.
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[Philip Benjamin]
Who gives what authority to whom, how, where and why?
Philip Benjamin
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Poem EU Ukraine. Modified 5-17-22
Philip Benjamin
Ukraine! Uber-unity’s ubiquity: unique, undaunted, undulant
Kremlin’s knights, Kirillian kooky kith, kindled Kyiv kinship
Rus reprobates, raving rapscallions, ruthless rowdy rampaging
Awake! Ah, arise against all anarchist authoritarian apoplectics!
Iniquity is incandescent, impish, infantile, invidious, imbecilic
Nincompoops! Nimrod nuisance, nihilistic narcissistic nastiness
Eureka! Encouraging encounter end, eschatological, eh EUkraine
Philip Benjamin Modified 5-17-22 EUkraine = EU Ukraine
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[Philip Benjamin]
None of these sites quoted for Koran defense answers the basic questions:
1. What “science” if any is involved here?
2. Who gives what authority to whom, how, where and why?
3. How is Iblis or jinn or djinn not the source of Mohammod’s inspiration (or is it hallucination?4. What has any of these to do with human consciousness or the Two Great Awakenings thereof which were both historical and historic in America? Pagan Stalin unconsciously coined the term “American Exceptionalism” for that.
5. How in the world can Jinn etc. being invisible be brought into any scientific discussion at all?
What I have alluded to was “self-consciousness” where self as a real and invisible entity for science must necessarily be made of and from plausibly bio dark-matter and its chemistry. The resonant dark/light twins cocreated at the moment of conception may be a basis for “self-awareness”. Resonance is rudimentary recognition.
I am cautiously interested ONLY in such discussions. Your references have no relevance to that.
Philip Benjamin
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[Philip Benjamin]
Who gives what authority to whom, how, where and why?
Philip Benjamin
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Poem EU Ukraine. Modified 5-17-22
Philip Benjamin
Ukraine! Uber-unity’s ubiquity: unique, undaunted, undulant
Kremlin’s knights, Kirillian kooky kith, kindled Kyiv kinship
Rus reprobates, raving rapscallions, ruthless rowdy rampaging
Awake! Ah, arise against all anarchist authoritarian apoplectics!
Iniquity is incandescent, impish, infantile, invidious, imbecilic
Nincompoops! Nimrod nuisance, nihilistic narcissistic nastiness
Eureka! Encouraging encounter end, eschatological, eh EUkraine
Philip Benjamin Modified 5-17-22 EUkraine = EU Ukraine
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[Philip Benjamin]
None of these sites quoted for Koran defense answers the basic questions:
1. What “science” if any is involved here?
2. Who gives what authority to whom, how, where and why?
3. How is Iblis or jinn or djinn not the source of Mohammod’s inspiration (or is it hallucination?4. What has any of these to do with human consciousness or the Two Great Awakenings thereof which were both historical and historic in America? Pagan Stalin unconsciously coined the term “American Exceptionalism” for that.
5. How in the world can Jinn etc. being invisible be brought into any scientific discussion at all?
What I have alluded to was “self-consciousness” where self as a real and invisible entity for science must necessarily be made of and from plausibly bio dark-matter and its chemistry. The resonant dark/light twins cocreated at the moment of conception may be a basis for “self-awareness”. Resonance is rudimentary recognition.
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[Philip Benjamin]
There is no science of any kind in this site: https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2015/03/explained-in-detail.html The author repeatedly affirms what Koran claims for itself. That is not “science “ is defined or understood. Which science are you referring to/Math, physics, chemistry, biology?
Not only science, where is the “Prophecy” if any in the Koran? This is a one man book over a period of two or three decades. Even the Delphi of ancient pagan Greece had some reliable “prophecies”, but the Greeks attributed them to spirit beings (demons).
That is very much unlike from Genesis 3: 15 (Messianic prophecy), to Micah 5:2 “But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, Though you are little among the thousands of Judah, Yet out of you shall come forth to Me The One to be Ruler in Israel, Whose goings forth are from of old, From everlasting” to Malachi 3:1 (John the Baptist)
“Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the LORD, whom you seek” to Revelation 22:12 “Behold I come suddenly [imminently]”. That covers over 3,500 years in three different continents by over 40 different authors (prophets) of diverse backgrounds such as princes, priests, philosophers, poets, peasants, businessmen, farmers, fishermen, males & females etc.
Instead of quoting sites, point out specific instances of scientific statements, or prophetic utterances. Are you claiming that these jinn and Iblis or spirit beingsare made of “invisible matter”. Stay with science.
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[Philip Benjamin]
The following “[Al-Quran 41:43,44,45, Translation: Literal (word-by-word)]” is not what is meant by Prophecy in the Scriptures of the Patriarchs, Prophets and the Apostles: “If and when the battle between Truth (haqq) and Falsehood (baatil) is fought, it will be critical to have the ability to recognise and side with the Truth (haqq)”.
No If’s & But’s, only identifiable specifics. What is “Truth” and “Falsehood”? Nothing specific! Egypt, Assyria, Israel, Judah, Babylon, Greece, Medo-Persia, [Rome to be], Pilate,
Now, the question is “what is the science in all these that you are referring to? Point out the specifics. Otherwise no need to continue mere “notions”, opinions and dogmas.
Example (one among hundreds): Luke 2:
1-4.
“
In those days Caesar Augustus issued a decree that a census should be taken of the entire Roman world. (This was the first census that took place while[
Quirinius was governor of Syria.) And everyone went to their own town to register.
So Joseph also went up from the town of Nazareth in Galilee to Judea, to Bethlehem the town of David, because he belonged to the house and line of David.”
“But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah [not Zebulun],
though
you are small among the clans[b] of
Judah,
out of you will come for me
one
who will be ruler over Israel,
whose origins are from of old,
from
ancient times.”
What is anybody’s hope, if Prophet Mohammad himself has no sure hope: “Say: 'I am not an innovation among the Messengers, and I know not what shall be done with me or with you. I only follow what is revealed to me; I am only a clear warner.' Sura. 46:8-9 Meccan”
‘The Quran repeatedly exhorts spending (infaq, zakat, sadaqah) and declares a war by Allah and His Messenger against those who consume usury (riba). The Torah and The Gospels also condemn usury. According to the Quran 4:159,
all People of the Book will believe in Jesus…”
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[Philip Benjamin]
Now, the question was “what is the science in all these that you are referring to? Point out the specifics. Otherwise no need to continue mere notions, opinions and dogmas.
The following “[Al-Quran 41:43,44,45, Translation: Literal (word-by-word)]” is not what is meant by Prophecy in the Scriptures of the Patriarchs, Prophets and the Apostles: “If and when the battle between Truth (haqq) and Falsehood (baatil) is fought, it will be critical to have the ability to recognise and side with the Truth (haqq)”.
No If’s & But’s, only identifiable specifics. What is “Truth” and “Falsehood”? Nothing specific! Egypt, Assyria, Israel, Judah, Babylon, Greece, Medo-Persia, [Rome to be], Pilate,
Scriptural Example (one among several hundreds): Luke 2: 1-4. “ In those days Caesar Augustus issued a decree that a census should be taken of the entire Roman world. (This was the first census that took place while[ Quirinius was governor of Syria.) And everyone went to their own town to register. So Joseph also went up from the town of Nazareth in Galilee to Judea, to Bethlehem the town of David, because he belonged to the house and line of David.” About 1000 years before Luke (737 to 696 BC), Micah 5:2 prophesied: “But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah [not Zebulun, of Joshua 19:15], though you are small among the clans[ of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from everlasting”.
What is anybody’s hope, if Prophet Mohammad himself has no sure hope: “Say: 'I am not an innovation among the Messengers, and I know not what shall be done with me or with you. I only follow what is revealed to me; I am only a clear warner.' Sura. 46:8-9 Meccan”
Philip Benjamin
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On 24-May-2022, at 3:44 AM, Lawrence Crowell <goldenfield...@gmail.com> wrote:
Well in this debate between Benjamin and Samiya it makes sense that at least one of them is wrong. They cannot both be right, and they are engaged in one big brouhaha over this. I say that while logic states at least one of these guys is wrong. a Bayesian prior or regression analysis would say probability is very close to one (100%) that both are wrong.
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> I say that while logic states at least one of these guys is wrong. a Bayesian prior or regression analysis would say probability is very close to one (100%) that both are wrong.
Tuesday, May 24, 2022 3:24 PM general...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: FW: [Consciousness-Online] RE: Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem
[Rosemary Rock Evans]
“Everyone, in whatever country you can think of, needs to be 'awake' before they are every likely to be moral. But…..”
[Philip Benjamin]
One cannot ignore the historic and historical “Two Great Awakenings” in American colonies and what they produced— not anarchy and isolation from the former mother Country, but a constitutional Republic.
Patriarchs, priests, pastors, philosophers, scientists and ALL can be “Awakened”. Good and evil are undeniable realities of existence. “Awakening” is not imposed by force—as the Russians seem to assume. People willingly or willfully opt for the “benign awakening” or the “malign awakening” . History can be a very good guide— not personal opinions. What “awakening” in what society has produced what kind of outcome? Outcome includes science & technology, erudition and ethos, not only morals and ethics.
Not only the French political philosopher Alexis de Tocqueville was wonderstruck by American uniqueness in 1831, even Marxist pagan Joseph Stalin had to coin the expression “American Exceptionalism”!!
Now, theologians exegetically expounds the American Awakening as “by the Word through the Spirit of Adonai (plural) YHWH (singular) Elohim (uni-plural), Augustinian transformation, German Reformation, English Puritan Awakening, Wesleyan Revivals are all of the same category.
Philip Benjamin
Nonconformist to Marxist- Socialist – pagan globalism
From: 'Rosemary Rock-Evans' via Consciousness-Online <general...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2022 1:13 PM
To: general...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: FW: [Consciousness-Online] RE: Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem
Please would someone explain what this discussion is about?
The heading says "Unspoken reasons for Russio-Ukraine War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem". So the objective is to waken consciousnesses - but it has to be everyone's.
I thought the forum was about showing people how to do it for themselves, so instead of blame or finger pointing, or singling people out, people could do their own thing. You aren't searching for a single religion, if religion has a role it is in explaining the methods and helping people choose the right one.
I, for example, purely by accident and at 72 years old, have found that love with visualisation - [of Serge] is quite the best way there is.
Religion up to now has been about preventing people from opening their own consciousnesses by telling them to rely on the word of someone else. But no one I know has ever become 'awake' by listening to sermons.
Being 'awake' and 'morals' aren't the same thing at all. All the most recent prophets have been describing ways of improving morals, [useful but not the same] they don't explain how you become 'awake'.
Everyone, in whatever country you can think of, needs to be 'awake' before they are every likely to be moral. But you need the right methods, as what I've called 'Overload activities' on the website can do the opposite, even though they work. 'Suppression activities' seem to work better, but not for everyone. It is always better to give people the choice - horses for courses.
Sorry for interrupting
rosie