Musk set up 100,000 Nvidia H200 GPUs in 19 days - Nvidia says ​it normally takes 4 years

[John Clark]

Musk set up 100,000 Nvidia H200 GPUs in 19 days - Jensen says it normally takes 4 years

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[John Clark]

Politically Elon Musk is a moron and morally I believe him to be a very unpleasant character, but exactly the same thing could be said about Isaac Newton. As painful as it is for me to admit it, I've got to give the devil his due. 

[Brent Meeker]

He's political crank, but he can get things done.

Musk set up 100,000 Nvidia H200 GPUs in 19 days - Jensen says it normally takes 4 years

Brent

[Giulio Prisco]

On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 3:47 PM John Clark <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Politically Elon Musk is a moron and morally I believe him to be a very unpleasant character, but exactly the same thing could be said about Isaac Newton. As painful as it is for me to admit it, I've got to give the devil his due.
>

He could well be a very unpleasant character, but perhaps you should
reconsider "moron." Do you ever pause to think that perhaps, just
perhaps, those who don't hate Donald Trump like you might have one
valid point or two?

Now Elon is campaigning for Trump and saying extreme things to win
(like all political operators). But from what he says in calmer
moments I guess his position is similar to mine: Trump can be bad, but
the alternative is worse.

> Musk set up 100,000 Nvidia H200 GPUs in 19 days - Jensen says it normally takes 4 years
>
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[Alan Grayson]

On Thursday, October 17, 2024 at 2:57:14 AM UTC-6 Giulio Prisco wrote:

On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 3:47 PM John Clark <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Politically Elon Musk is a moron and morally I believe him to be a very unpleasant character, but exactly the same thing could be said about Isaac Newton. As painful as it is for me to admit it, I've got to give the devil his due.
>

He could well be a very unpleasant character, but perhaps you should
reconsider "moron." Do you ever pause to think that perhaps, just
perhaps, those who don't hate Donald Trump like you might have one
valid point or two?

Now Elon is campaigning for Trump and saying extreme things to win
(like all political operators). But from what he says in calmer
moments I guess his position is similar to mine: Trump can be bad, but
the alternative is worse.

Trump is a clear and present danger to democracy in America. Other than

that, a minor consideration, he's a good choice for morons like you. AG 

[Giulio Prisco]

Please note that I haven’t insulted anyone. I would appreciate it if you could do the same. 

And I haven’t said that Trump is a good choice (he was my least favorite of the Republican candidates, both in 2016 and now), only that the other choice is worse.

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[Alan Grayson]

On Thursday, October 17, 2024 at 5:08:38 AM UTC-6 Giulio Prisco wrote:

On Thu, 17 Oct 2024 at 12:39, Alan Grayson <agrays...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, October 17, 2024 at 2:57:14 AM UTC-6 Giulio Prisco wrote:

On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 3:47 PM John Clark <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Politically Elon Musk is a moron and morally I believe him to be a very unpleasant character, but exactly the same thing could be said about Isaac Newton. As painful as it is for me to admit it, I've got to give the devil his due.
>

He could well be a very unpleasant character, but perhaps you should
reconsider "moron." Do you ever pause to think that perhaps, just
perhaps, those who don't hate Donald Trump like you might have one
valid point or two?

Now Elon is campaigning for Trump and saying extreme things to win
(like all political operators). But from what he says in calmer
moments I guess his position is similar to mine: Trump can be bad, but
the alternative is worse.

Trump is a clear and present danger to democracy in America. Other than

that, a minor consideration, he's a good choice for morons like you. AG 

Please note that I haven’t insulted anyone. I would appreciate it if you could do the same. 

And I haven’t said that Trump is a good choice (he was my least favorite of the Republican candidates, both in 2016 and now), only that the other choice is worse.

 You are  unworthy of courtesy. AG

[John Clark]

On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 4:57 AM Giulio Prisco <giu...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

>> Politically Elon Musk is a moron and morally I believe him to be a very unpleasant character, but exactly the same thing could be said about Isaac Newton. As painful as it is for me to admit it, I've got to give the devil his due.

> He could well be a very unpleasant character, but perhaps you should reconsider "moron."

Nobody is a genius in every area of human activity, I wouldn't go so far as to call Einstein a political moron but, although his intentions were good, he certainly wasn't very adept at politics. Leonardo de Vinci was a genius at art but an overrated dilettante in science. As for likability, Newton and Gauss were geniuses at physics and mathematics but both were unpleasant characters, especially Newton. But except for antisemites everybody liked Einstein, and even people who hated Darwin's theory like the man when they met him. 

> Do you ever pause to think that perhaps, just perhaps, those who don't hate Donald Trump like you might have one valid point or two?

As for Donald Trump, he has a genius for finding and pushing the buttons needed to get a mob enraged, but he's a moron in all other forms of human activity, and that even includes the ability to make money. If Trump had simply taken the money that his daddy had given him and then invested it in a stock index mutual fund and sat on his hands for the next 35 years he'd be much richer than he is now.

And Giulio, have you ever met or heard of another human being who could spew out lies at a machine gun rate like Donald Trump does at every speech he gives? What I find so bizarre is that even Trump's greatest fans know he is lying but, for reasons I don't pretend to understand, they just don't care. 

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[Giulio Prisco]

On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 1:53 PM Alan Grayson <agrays...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
>
> On Thursday, October 17, 2024 at 5:08:38 AM UTC-6 Giulio Prisco wrote:
>
> On Thu, 17 Oct 2024 at 12:39, Alan Grayson <agrays...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thursday, October 17, 2024 at 2:57:14 AM UTC-6 Giulio Prisco wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 3:47 PM John Clark <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Politically Elon Musk is a moron and morally I believe him to be a very unpleasant character, but exactly the same thing could be said about Isaac Newton. As painful as it is for me to admit it, I've got to give the devil his due.
> >
>
> He could well be a very unpleasant character, but perhaps you should
> reconsider "moron." Do you ever pause to think that perhaps, just
> perhaps, those who don't hate Donald Trump like you might have one
> valid point or two?
>
> Now Elon is campaigning for Trump and saying extreme things to win
> (like all political operators). But from what he says in calmer
> moments I guess his position is similar to mine: Trump can be bad, but
> the alternative is worse.
>
>
> Trump is a clear and present danger to democracy in America. Other than
> that, a minor consideration, he's a good choice for morons like you. AG
>
>
> Please note that I haven’t insulted anyone. I would appreciate it if you could do the same.
> And I haven’t said that Trump is a good choice (he was my least favorite of the Republican candidates, both in 2016 and now), only that the other choice is worse.
>
>
> You are unworthy of courtesy. AG
>

Then fuck off. GP

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[Alan Grayson]

On Thursday, October 17, 2024 at 5:53:18 AM UTC-6 Alan Grayson wrote:

On Thursday, October 17, 2024 at 5:08:38 AM UTC-6 Giulio Prisco wrote:

On Thu, 17 Oct 2024 at 12:39, Alan Grayson <agrays...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, October 17, 2024 at 2:57:14 AM UTC-6 Giulio Prisco wrote:

On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 3:47 PM John Clark <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Politically Elon Musk is a moron and morally I believe him to be a very unpleasant character, but exactly the same thing could be said about Isaac Newton. As painful as it is for me to admit it, I've got to give the devil his due.
>

He could well be a very unpleasant character, but perhaps you should
reconsider "moron." Do you ever pause to think that perhaps, just
perhaps, those who don't hate Donald Trump like you might have one
valid point or two?

Now Elon is campaigning for Trump and saying extreme things to win
(like all political operators). But from what he says in calmer
moments I guess his position is similar to mine: Trump can be bad, but
the alternative is worse.

Trump is a clear and present danger to democracy in America. Other than

that, a minor consideration, he's a good choice for morons like you. AG 

Please note that I haven’t insulted anyone. I would appreciate it if you could do the same. 

And I haven’t said that Trump is a good choice (he was my least favorite of the Republican candidates, both in 2016 and now), only that the other choice is worse.

 You are unworthy of courtesy. AG

Kamala is worse than Trump? Really? At least she's not a sexual predator, not an habitual liar, and not a convicted felon (34 counts). And neither is she a Marxist or a Communist as claimed by Trump. I could go on, but you obviously have zero political smarts. AG

[Giulio Prisco]

Most politicians can lie at that rate, it is a necessary skill for the
job. For example, nearly everyone in the other party has repeated and
repeated a huge lie for months (not to mention other lies of course).

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[Alan Grayson]

On Thursday, October 17, 2024 at 8:35:26 AM UTC-6 Giulio Prisco wrote:

On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 2:10 PM John Clark <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 4:57 AM Giulio Prisco <giu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> >> Politically Elon Musk is a moron and morally I believe him to be a very unpleasant character, but exactly the same thing could be said about Isaac Newton. As painful as it is for me to admit it, I've got to give the devil his due.
>>
>>
>> > He could well be a very unpleasant character, but perhaps you should reconsider "moron."
>
>
> Nobody is a genius in every area of human activity, I wouldn't go so far as to call Einstein a political moron but, although his intentions were good, he certainly wasn't very adept at politics. Leonardo de Vinci was a genius at art but an overrated dilettante in science. As for likability, Newton and Gauss were geniuses at physics and mathematics but both were unpleasant characters, especially Newton. But except for antisemites everybody liked Einstein, and even people who hated Darwin's theory like the man when they met him.
>
>> > Do you ever pause to think that perhaps, just perhaps, those who don't hate Donald Trump like you might have one valid point or two?
>
>
> As for Donald Trump, he has a genius for finding and pushing the buttons needed to get a mob enraged, but he's a moron in all other forms of human activity, and that even includes the ability to make money. If Trump had simply taken the money that his daddy had given him and then invested it in a stock index mutual fund and sat on his hands for the next 35 years he'd be much richer than he is now.
>
> And Giulio, have you ever met or heard of another human being who could spew out lies at a machine gun rate like Donald Trump does at every speech he gives? What I find so bizarre is that even Trump's greatest fans know he is lying but, for reasons I don't pretend to understand, they just don't care.
>

Most politicians can lie at that rate, it is a necessary skill for the
job. For example, nearly everyone in the other party has repeated and
repeated a huge lie for months (not to mention other lies of course).

That's called a False Equivalence, which is what Trumpers are skilled at. You can't compare Trump with Kamala without continuing to lie bigly. AG 

[Brent Meeker]

On 10/17/2024 4:08 AM, Giulio Prisco wrote:

On Thu, 17 Oct 2024 at 12:39, Alan Grayson <agrays...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, October 17, 2024 at 2:57:14 AM UTC-6 Giulio Prisco wrote:

On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 3:47 PM John Clark <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Politically Elon Musk is a moron and morally I believe him to be a very unpleasant character, but exactly the same thing could be said about Isaac Newton. As painful as it is for me to admit it, I've got to give the devil his due.
>

He could well be a very unpleasant character, but perhaps you should
reconsider "moron." Do you ever pause to think that perhaps, just
perhaps, those who don't hate Donald Trump like you might have one
valid point or two?

Now Elon is campaigning for Trump and saying extreme things to win
(like all political operators). But from what he says in calmer
moments I guess his position is similar to mine: Trump can be bad, but
the alternative is worse.

Trump is a clear and present danger to democracy in America. Other than

that, a minor consideration, he's a good choice for morons like you. AG 

Please note that I haven’t insulted anyone. I would appreciate it if you could do the same. 

And I haven’t said that Trump is a good choice (he was my least favorite of the Republican candidates, both in 2016 and now), only that the other choice is worse.

And why do you think the other choice is worse?  Because she will support Ukraine?  Because she won't impose new tariffs?  Because she won't use the U.S. military to suppress "the enemy within".  She won't replace all high level civil servants with Trump loyalists?

Brent

[Cosmin Visan]

@Alan. So you are on the camp of the woke totalitarians ? You plead for the extermination of the straight white men ?

[Alan Grayson]

On Friday, October 18, 2024 at 1:16:23 AM UTC-6 Cosmin Visan wrote:

@Alan. So you are on the camp of the woke totalitarians ? You plead for the extermination of the straight white men ?

You seem totally confused. I contributed to Kamala's campaign and I will be voting D for all down ballot candidates. Or maybe you're wrongly applying your "consciousness" to my politics. She's not perfect, but the alternative is unthinkable; a sexual predator, habitual liar, and 34 times convicted felon, and that's just for starters. Are you a Trumper? AG 

[Cosmin Visan]

@Alan. So how are the genocide preparations going ? How many years till it starts ?

[Alan Grayson]

On Friday, October 18, 2024 at 1:28:16 PM UTC-6 Cosmin Visan wrote:

@Alan. So how are the genocide preparations going ? How many years till it starts ?

It's already started, and both Trump and Kamala will keep it going. But Kamala is far far superior on all other issues. Who are you voting for, assuming you're an American citizen? AG 

[Cosmin Visan]

I'm not voting. Remember, I'm an evolved spirit. I dont involve myself in the drama of this pathetic species. I'm.just observing it from outside.

[Alan Grayson]

On Saturday, October 19, 2024 at 12:05:55 AM UTC-6 Cosmin Visan wrote:

I'm not voting. Remember, I'm an evolved spirit. I dont involve myself in the drama of this pathetic species. I'm.just observing it from outside.

If you were truly evolved, you'd know there is no outside. AG 

[Cosmin Visan]

Why do you want to exterminate straight white men ? Are you a black lesbian ? Or are you a soyboy that is jelous on the success of the straight white men ?

[Alan Grayson]

On Monday, October 21, 2024 at 1:21:04 AM UTC-6 Cosmin Visan wrote:

Why do you want to exterminate straight white men ? Are you a black lesbian ? Or are you a soyboy that is jelous on the success of the straight white men ?

Now you sound like some stupid Trumper. I have no idea what you're referring to. Maybe you're answering someone else's post. Please cease your nonsense. AG

[Cosmin Visan]

That's how ideologies usually work. You kill people and you are not even aware that you are doing that. From your perspective, it looks like you bring heaven to Earth. So, are you really not aware of the woke totalitarian regime ruining first movies (by gender swapping, inserting disproportionate amounts of blacks, gays, etc., inserting insufferable boss-babes, etc.) and then spreading all over society by refusing to hire straight white men, thus getting already in pre-genocide era ?

[Alan Grayson]

On Monday, October 21, 2024 at 4:35:41 AM UTC-6 Cosmin Visan wrote:

That's how ideologies usually work. You kill people and you are not even aware that you are doing that. From your perspective, it looks like you bring heaven to Earth. So, are you really not aware of the woke totalitarian regime ruining first movies (by gender swapping, inserting disproportionate amounts of blacks, gays, etc., inserting insufferable boss-babes, etc.) and then spreading all over society by refusing to hire straight white men, thus getting already in pre-genocide era ?

Some is in your perverted imagination. And what's real is mostly an exaggerated righi-wing talking point. And you think you're the only one aware of it? Then vote Trump and cease bothering me. AG 

[Cosmin Visan]

Have you ever watched a movie in the past 10 years ? Or are you living in a cave ? Are you aware that Ubisoft stock plummeted from 100$ to 10$ because of the woke agenda that they push in their games ?

[Alan Grayson]

On Monday, October 21, 2024 at 6:36:14 AM UTC-6 Cosmin Visan wrote:

Have you ever watched a movie in the past 10 years ? Or are you living in a cave ? Are you aware that Ubisoft stock plummeted from 100$ to 10$ because of the woke agenda that they push in their games ?

Last night I watched "Lincoln", directed by Steven Spielberg. Very interesting; about Lincoln's struggle to get the 13th Amendment passed before the end of the Civil War. It made slavery illegal in America. Passed the House on Jan 31, 1865 (had previously passed the Senate). The Civil War effectively ended on April 9, 1865, when Lee surrended at Appomattox Court House in VIrginia. The Civil War legally ended somewhat later.  I don't follow that stock.  AG                                          

[Cosmin Visan]

Watch Star Wars Acolyte and see the complete extermination of males. So, when do you start the physical extermination ? After that female is elected ?

[Alan Grayson]

On Monday, October 21, 2024 at 7:52:37 AM UTC-6 Cosmin Visan wrote:

Watch Star Wars Acolyte and see the complete extermination of males. So, when do you start the physical extermination ? After that female is elected ?

You're a Trumper. Hence deluded and degenerate like your de facto hero. AG 

[Cosmin Visan]

So you deny that in Star Wars Acolyte males have been exterminated ?

[PGC]

On Thursday, October 17, 2024 at 12:12:19 AM UTC+2 Brent Meeker wrote:

He's political crank, but he can get things done.

So did many tyrants. It's part of their marketing to make them appear like "doers". We all know they pay smarter folks and bask in the sunlight of the credit.

He also gets things like this done:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/20/us/politics/elon-musk-million-dollar-petition.html?unlocked_article_code=1.T04.aMef.yBFuCl3CqdB1&smid=url-share

Just like I said some weeks ago, I don't think Kamala has the emotional appeal of Obama or Clinton, when they ran. Plus, she has the baggage of currently holding office. Democrats are in wishful thinking mode if they think she can overcome this. With the polls so close and the richest "guy who gets things done in the world" finding "workarounds" to financially incentivize people to vote. 

Now a few notes on some of the "pseudo issues":

While Democrats in the U.S. are often criticized for their inability to help the middle class, this narrative is not entirely accurate. While it may seem that neither party is making substantial progress, much of the failure to enact middle-class-focused policies stems from Republican obstructionism in Congress. For instance, attempts to raise the federal minimum wage, such as the **2021 Raise the Wage Act**, were blocked by Republican opposition despite widespread support. Similarly, efforts to expand access to healthcare through **the Affordable Care Act (2010)** were met with fierce resistance, with numerous attempts to repeal the law by Republican legislators. Democrats have also pushed for policies like the **Build Back Better Plan (2021)**, which proposed significant investments in education, childcare, and green energy jobs—programs that would benefit the middle class—but it was largely dismantled by bipartisan opposition, particularly from centrist and right-leaning factions in Congress.

This leads to a vicious cycle: both parties appear to fail at addressing middle-class needs, but closer scrutiny reveals that Democratic initiatives are often stymied by Republican opposition. From a surface perspective, it seems like inaction, but beneath that surface, Democratic efforts to provide economic relief and promote social welfare have been repeatedly blocked.

The rise of **anti-woke ideology** compounds these issues. "Anti-wokeness" is a loosely defined reactionary stance against perceived excesses of progressive politics, especially in areas like race, gender, and identity. Proponents often decry the supposed dominance of "woke culture" in public life, seeing it as a form of ideological imposition. However, this ideology suffers from its own contradictions: while it attacks what it perceives as the ideological dogma of "wokeness," it fails to critically reflect on its own ideological foundations. In truth, there is scant academic research supporting "anti-woke" claims, which are often emotionally charged rather than evidence-based. The arguments of anti-woke proponents rest heavily on criticizing "cancel culture" and identity politics, but they rarely engage in the same deconstructive analysis of their own positions. As a result, anti-wokeness functions more as a discursive tool for ideological dominance—ironically replicating the very dynamics it purports to oppose.

This oversight points to the naivety in the "anti-woke" stance, which fails to recognize that all ideological positions seek discursive dominance, a fact well-documented since the works of **Chomsky** and **Foucault**. By ignoring their own ideological bias, anti-woke proponents perpetuate the same kind of dominance they claim to resist. Moreover, the focus on cultural issues like "wokeness" often serves as a distraction from more significant economic and social problems, such as wealth inequality and the lack of progress for the middle class—an issue that both populists and anti-woke advocates conveniently sidestep.

In the case of immigration, anti-immigrant rhetoric similarly relies on a nostalgic and unrealistic vision of cultural purity in a pre-globalized world. Such arguments ignore the fact that modern technological progress, from smartphones to medical advancements, has been driven by globalization and immigration. If anti-immigration proponents truly sought to avoid the benefits of globalization, they would need to live by their own ideology, buying only locally produced goods made by "pure anti-globalized families or companies." This reveals the impracticality and contradictions in their position. The desire for a pre-globalized society is a mirage; globalization has shaped the modern world, and rejecting it outright would entail regressing technologically and economically.

In sum, while Democrats face legitimate criticism for their failure to deliver certain promises, the deeper issue lies in Republican obstructionism, which blocks progressive policies aimed at benefiting the middle class. Meanwhile, the rise of anti-woke and anti-immigration ideologies often serves as a distraction, offering simplistic solutions to complex issues and masking underlying economic inequalities. Anti-wokeness, in particular, mirrors the ideological dominance it seeks to deconstruct, while anti-immigration stances ignore the realities of a globalized world. When critically examined, these populist movements offer little in terms of practical solutions for the middle class or broader society, whereas the preservation of democracy—even with its flaws—remains a better option. 

Probability of higher living standards for the non-wealthy in a republican setting is zero. Probability of such with democrats isn't high, as described above, but at least it is higher than zero. If people got more organized, and fought more for their interests by furthering politicians/politics that would implement the appropriate policies, such a higher than zero number could even be multiplied. One thing is clear: it doesn't matter. The emotional appeal of "anti-wokeness" and people siding with the wealthy crooked stink dicks are immune to any discussion. And democrats further this by painting wishful thinking scenarios themselves; as if they could get those policies realized. A bit more honesty here over the years would've helped, especially with an incumbent holding office in the current administration. 

 

[Alan Grayson]

On Monday, October 21, 2024 at 8:20:57 AM UTC-6 Cosmin Visan wrote:

So you deny that in Star Wars Acolyte males have been exterminated ?

I don't deny or affirm. I have no idea what you're alleging. AG 

[Cosmin Visan]

Exterminating males in movies is a symbolic statement of what their intentions are for when they will gain more power in real life. You have to have IQ below 80 to not understand these things.

[Cosmin Visan]

@PGC. "Perceived" excesses ? Have you watched any movie in the last few years ? Do you see any more straight white males in these movies ? There are only black males and insufferable girlbosses with height 1.5m that beat muscular 1.9m dudes. Because girl power! Girl strong, male weak! Are you really IQ below 80 to not see these things ? Also games, like Concord that was shut down after 2 weeks because nobody likes woke propaganda, and Assassins' Creed Shadows with black samurai in medieval Japan, thus insulting the whole of Japan nation and delaying the game as everyone was protesting against all these insults. Are you really living in a cave ?

[Terren Suydam]

Movies and males don't exist. They're just ideas in consciousness. I thought you of all people would know that.

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[Cosmin Visan]

@PGC. There is no such thing as "anti-woke". These is normality. And that normality is under attack by the woke mind virus. You want normal people to just accept the attacks without saying anything ? Resisting the woke mind virus is not "anti-woke". Is just normality wanting to get back to normal.

[Alan Grayson]

On Monday, October 21, 2024 at 10:10:39 AM UTC-6 Cosmin Visan wrote:

@PGC. "Perceived" excesses ? Have you watched any movie in the last few years ? Do you see any more straight white males in these movies ? There are only black males and insufferable girlbosses with height 1.5m that beat muscular 1.9m dudes. Because girl power! Girl strong, male weak! Are you really IQ below 80 to not see these things ? Also games, like Concord that was shut down after 2 weeks because nobody likes woke propaganda, and Assassins' Creed Shadows with black samurai in medieval Japan, thus insulting the whole of Japan nation and delaying the game as everyone was protesting against all these insults. Are you really living in a cave ?

On Monday 21 October 2024 at 19:05:10 UTC+3 Cosmin Visan wrote:

Exterminating males in movies is a symbolic statement of what their intentions are for when they will gain more power in real life. You have to have IQ below 80 to not understand these things.

 

My IQ is high enough to know you're an incorrigible asshole, and I can't waste any more time interacting with you. AG 

[Cosmin Visan]

Why do you want to exterminate the straight white males ? 

[John Clark]

On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 12:11 PM Terren Suydam <terren...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Movies and males don't exist. They're just ideas in consciousness. I thought you of all people would know that.

Damn! I wish I'd said that.  

John K Clark

 

[Jesse Mazer]

On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 10:35 AM Giulio Prisco <giu...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 2:10 PM John Clark <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 4:57 AM Giulio Prisco <giu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> >> Politically Elon Musk is a moron and morally I believe him to be a very unpleasant character, but exactly the same thing could be said about Isaac Newton. As painful as it is for me to admit it, I've got to give the devil his due.
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>> > He could well be a very unpleasant character, but perhaps you should reconsider "moron."
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> Nobody is a genius in every area of human activity, I wouldn't go so far as to call Einstein a political moron but, although his intentions were good, he certainly wasn't very adept at politics. Leonardo de Vinci was a genius at art but an overrated dilettante in science. As for likability, Newton and Gauss were geniuses at physics and mathematics but both were unpleasant characters, especially Newton. But except for antisemites everybody liked Einstein, and even people who hated Darwin's theory like the man when they met him.

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>> > Do you ever pause to think that perhaps, just perhaps, those who don't hate Donald Trump like you might have one valid point or two?
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> As for Donald Trump, he has a genius for finding and pushing the buttons needed to get a mob enraged, but he's a moron in all other forms of human activity, and that even includes the ability to make money. If Trump had simply taken the money that his daddy had given him and then invested it in a stock index mutual fund and sat on his hands for the next 35 years he'd be much richer than he is now.
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> And Giulio, have you ever met or heard of another human being who could spew out lies at a machine gun rate like Donald Trump does at every speech he gives? What I find so bizarre is that even Trump's greatest fans know he is lying but, for reasons I don't pretend to understand, they just don't care.
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Most politicians can lie at that rate, it is a necessary skill for the
job. For example, nearly everyone in the other party has repeated and
repeated a huge lie for months (not to mention other lies of course).

What specific huge lie from the Democrats are you referring to? And do you consider Kamala Harris to be notably worse than Biden or Obama or do you think they're all worse than Trump?

 

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