Trump says Liz Cheney should be fired upon with "9 barrels"

[John Clark]

"Let’s put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her, OK? Let’s see how she feels about it, you know, when the guns are trained on her face."

Trump says Liz Cheney should be fired upon with "9 barrels"

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[Alan Grayson]

On Friday, November 1, 2024 at 9:45:20 AM UTC-6 John Clark wrote:

"Let’s put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her, OK? Let’s see how she feels about it, you know, when the guns are trained on her face."

Trump says Liz Cheney should be fired upon with "9 barrels"

It's likely a reference to her presumed support of the Iraq war, which her father supporter. AG

[spudb...@aol.com]

Chenny does lack empathy, so yes, the soldiers she and Kamala would send into war heedlessly, would likely lose. Considering she is the same team that fucked up the Afghanistan Aug 2021 Withdrawal, and Therefore initiating Putin's awareness of US deliberate weakness. So, my takeaway is that Cheney doesn't fight the wars she sends US soldiers to perish in. How'd she like it. 

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[PGC]

When your love/empathy is limited to merely your exclusive group, it's what we call hate with insecurity. Only by generalizing empathy/love to all did we reach above the animal kingdom/beasts with equal rights, higher minimum wage, human rights etc. Basically all the woke mind virus stuff including science AND transhumanism. That is why you are on the side of hate confusing the act of defending such rights from Tyranny with acts of violence/lack of empathy. And also why your transhumanism is not a sincere effort you're contributing towards or at least believe in. No human progress is achieved through hate. It's always backwards, dude. Why post here, when you reveal your colors like this?

[John Clark]

On Fri, Nov 1, 2024 at 2:33 PM 'spudb...@aol.com' via Everything List <everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Cheney doesn't fight the wars she sends US soldiers to perish in. How'd she like it. 

I know for a fact Trump doesn't want people shooting at him, that's why he asked his daddy to get him out of the draft during the Vietnam war. It seems that Donald has bone spurs in his feet which makes him unfit to fight, or at least that's what a doctor's note to the draft board said, a Doctor who's landlord just happened to be Donald Trump's daddy.

When asked in 2016 which foot was supposed to have the bone spurs Donald said he couldn't remember; you'd think you'd remember something like that, especially if you had a "wonderful memory" like Trump claims he has. 

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[spudb...@aol.com]

Your candidate's Policies are so horrible, that voting for Don is a pleasure. I vote on Policy, JC, not character, likeability, virtueousness, friendliness, etc. I figure we'll have chaos for the next several months, so buckle up, we're all for a bumpy ride (All About Eve quote). 

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[John Clark]

On Fri, Nov 1, 2024 at 4:30 PM 'spudb...@aol.com' via Everything List <everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

 

> I vote on Policy, JC, not character,

Obviously you don't care about character because Trump has none, but which of Trump's policies do you think is so wonderful? Is it his policy of lying to the American people about the seriousness of the pandemic and dealing with it with incredible ineptitude so that it caused the needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans? Or his policy of reneging on the Iran nuclear deal which enabled them to make nuclear weapons about a decade earlier than they otherwise would? Or is it his policy of having "infrastructure week" about every month? Or is it his policy of staging a coup d'état (ineptly) because he lost a fair election? Or is it just his policy of breaking his vow to defend the US Constitution? 

Oh I know, you like the fact that Trump built a wall and made Mexico pay for it just like he promised he would .... wait a minute... 

> I figure we'll have chaos for the next several months

I figure if Trump wins on Tuesday, and he probably will, then we will have seen the last election in this nation's history, if you don't count the sort of elections they have in North Korea where Kim Jong-un gets 100% of the vote; and Donald Trump LITERALLY fell in love with Kim Jong-un.

'He wrote me beautiful letters and we fell in love': Donald Trump on Kim Jong-un

 

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[Brent Meeker]

On 11/1/2024 11:33 AM, 'spudb...@aol.com' via Everything List wrote:

Chenny does lack empathy, so yes, the soldiers she and Kamala would send into war heedlessly,

What war?  You casually assume they will send soldiers to a war.  Trump is more likely to get us into a war by his pussilanimous withdrawal of support for S. Korea, NATO, Phillipines, Taiwan, and Ukraine; thus encouraging Putin, Xi, and Kim to invade them.

would likely lose. Considering she is the same team that fucked up the Afghanistan Aug 2021 Withdrawal,

The withdrawal was fucked up by Trump who drew down the Afghan contingent to a handful before the withdrawal date that he negotiated with the Taliban, instead of the Afghan government.

and Therefore initiating Putin's awareness of US deliberate weakness.

And Biden has corrected that misperception by strong support of Ukraine and Israel.

So, my takeaway is that Cheney doesn't fight the wars she sends US soldiers to perish in. How'd she like it.

And Cadet Bonespurs didn't fight in the war he should have.

Brent

On Friday, November 1, 2024 at 02:13:22 PM EDT, Alan Grayson <agrays...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, November 1, 2024 at 9:45:20 AM UTC-6 John Clark wrote:

"Let’s put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her, OK? Let’s see how she feels about it, you know, when the guns are trained on her face."

Trump says Liz Cheney should be fired upon with "9 barrels"

It's likely a reference to her presumed support of the Iraq war, which her father supporter. AG

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[Brent Meeker]

You're voting against allowing women to choose abortions, against the ACA, against supporting Ukraine, NATO, Taiwan, S. Korea and for Putin, Xi, and Kim.  You're voting for more tax cuts for the highest bracket and tariffs to tax consumers.  You're voting for ignoring global warming and for not planning for pandemics.  You're voting for deporting some 10 million immigrants.  You're for using the justice system and the military to suppress Trump's opponents.  Well I guess I understand that last one; you think you'll be a member of the new Fasicista.

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[Alan Grayson]

On Friday, November 1, 2024 at 3:02:11 PM UTC-6 John Clark wrote:

On Fri, Nov 1, 2024 at 4:30 PM 'spudb...@aol.com' via Everything List <everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

 

> I vote on Policy, JC, not character,

Obviously you don't care about character because Trump has none, but which of Trump's policies do you think is so wonderful? Is it his policy of lying to the American people about the seriousness of the pandemic and dealing with it with incredible ineptitude so that it caused the needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans? Or his policy of reneging on the Iran nuclear deal which enabled them to make nuclear weapons about a decade earlier than they otherwise would? Or is it his policy of having "infrastructure week" about every month? Or is it his policy of staging a coup d'état (ineptly) because he lost a fair election? Or is it just his policy of breaking his vow to defend the US Constitution? 

Eventually you'll get it. Trumpers suffer from an undiagnosed form of dementia and can't process infomation objectively. AG 

[spudb...@aol.com]

Naw, Because, the nasty people, specifically George and Alex, via mass campaign donations bribe the D party, whether these work in real life or not. I don't care whom Kamala had sex with either. Though, yes talk dirty to me! We could go down my personal list of my objections to Joe-Kamala Policies over the years, but I figure:

1) I am not a high roller campaign contributor, just a serf.

2) The US for decades has been an oligarchy, dependent on campaigh cash.

3) Things are stressful enough this day, especially for you D voters, why push? 

Unless you are border from physics, AI, QC, and occasionally astrophysics-need a passionate distraction? 

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[spudb...@aol.com]

In brief reply, any political party that accepts George Soros/ActBlue campaign donation$ in Exchange for obey George and Alex's Policies, can never, by definition make me worry about Don being a Fascist or the Reps being fascistic. Your team wants Constitutional Ammendments eliminted, including the 1st 2nd & 4th. 

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[spudb...@aol.com]

Under Joeys Rules (Obama's) since Jan 21st 2001, and the withdrawal during August 2021, we all know who was in charge and who could order the Pentagon about and do Executive Orders. Joe's policies were awful, and still are. You wish these continued, indicates that however great you are at physics, it ever gets eclipsed, by the ideological passion. Alas. 

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[John Clark]

On Mon, Nov 4, 2024 at 9:42 AM 'spudb...@aol.com' via Everything List <everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> In brief reply, any political party that accepts George Soros/ActBlue campaign donation$ in Exchange for obey George and Alex's Policies,

I have no idea who George and Alex are, but please don't tell me.  

 

> can never, by definition make me worry about Don being a Fascist or the Reps being fascistic. Your team wants Constitutional Ammendments eliminted, including the 1st 2nd & 4th. 

Just a few days ago Donald Trump sued CBS for $10 billion because he didn't like a 60 minute program. Does that sound like a courageous defender of the first amendment to you? 

Why Trump’s lawsuit against CBS is transparently ridiculous

And Spud, I'm gonna stick my neck out and make a prediction about what's going to happen tomorrow, and I'm very very confident of my prediction. Donald Trump will declare that he won, probably in a landslide. 

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[Alan Grayson]

On Monday, November 4, 2024 at 7:42:56 AM UTC-7 spudb...@aol.com wrote:

In brief reply, any political party that accepts George Soros/ActBlue campaign donation$ in Exchange for obey George and Alex's Policies, can never, by definition make me worry about Don being a Fascist or the Reps being fascistic. Your team wants Constitutional Ammendments eliminted, including the 1st 2nd & 4th. 

You have an undiagnosed form of dementia, and AFAICT, it's uncurable. AG 

[PGC]

A vote for Trump, framed as a challenge to billionaire influence or a protection of democratic values, warrants looking at the facts. Not voting "with pleasure". That's a giveaway that Spud votes emotionally. The idea that Trump opposes the oligarchic grip on U.S. politics runs counter to his record. Trump has relied heavily on donations from wealthy backers and has implemented policies favoring the richest Americans, such as corporate tax cuts that primarily benefited the top income brackets. His administration’s alignment with powerful elites underscores that his election would not dismantle billionaire influence but rather enlarge it, with our serf being the their prime target. The Citizens United decision, which Trump has not opposed, further entrenches corporate and wealthy donors in the political landscape, making it unlikely that voting for Trump will counter the sway of billionaires like Soros—or any wealthy individual—over the political process.

Concerns about protecting constitutional rights similarly require scrutiny. While Trump supporters often invoke fears about threats to the 1st, 2nd, and 4th Amendments, Trump’s own actions have frequently shown a disregard for these rights. His administration’s support for increased surveillance, suppression of protestors, and hostile rhetoric toward journalists reflect a troubling stance on civil liberties. The inconsistency in his selective support for certain rights, such as gun ownership, does not align with a comprehensive defense of individual freedoms. A vote for Trump under the assumption that he protects constitutional rights overlooks these authoritarian tendencies.

In a democracy, the potential for individuals with authoritarian leanings to gain power underscores a fundamental flaw in our current political structure. Just as we would not let those with histories of violence run schools, we should not allow individuals exhibiting authoritarian traits to influence democratic processes. It’s akin to a security engineer knowingly allowing a virus into a software system; the resulting erosion of democratic integrity can be profound.

Moreover, casting a vote for Trump in the hope of combating the billionaire class is self-contradictory. A vote for Trump aligns with broader conservative agendas, which often include opposing abortion rights, the ACA, and international alliances like NATO. It also signals support for cutting taxes for the wealthiest, ignoring climate change, neglecting pandemic preparedness, deporting millions, and using state power to suppress opponents as Brent has pointed out. 

Ultimately, voting itself is a concept rooted in the very “woke” idea of societal responsibility and communal values—ironically, voting for Trump contradicts this ethos. The question remains: does the serf truly believe their vote for Trump will negate the influence of billionaires or overturn the very structures they claim to oppose? That in 4 years his life will magically change? At least a win for Trump would expose the big fat lie his supporters have fallen for hook, line, and sinker: That 2020 was stolen and that January 6 was not an attempt at insurrection by authoritarian interests and the serfs they manipulated.

[spudb...@aol.com]

Not really.

My voting is on policies, whether kamala did these, I would've voted for her. 

Domestically, Inflation caused by printing money to cover social expenses for illegal aliens.

The Inflation Reduction Act was raided. Specially,7.5 billion, reserved for vastly increasing the amount of EV chargers, would up with only 8. 

Illegal immigration to fatten the Dem election votes, not caring whether some of the entrants were criminals or Iranian Rev Guard Units, in country. 

Internationally, the Afghanistan witrhdrawal caused Putin to see Weakness aka like Obama, and invade Ukraine, causing the Doomsday clock to go forward. 

That is just four reasons, and 5 would be the democrats adoration and non-jailing of street thugs, and theft. 

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[PGC]

In evaluating these claims, it’s essential to consider the broader context of how social media and news platforms increasingly drive political discourse. These platforms are designed to generate outrage, as it has been shown to be the most engaging and profitable form of content, particularly in an advertising-driven model. Outrage keeps people engaged, producing clicks, shares, and ad revenue; consequently, the cycle of moral indignation and sensationalism is incentivized, often at the expense of factual accuracy. Verifying facts is slower and less stimulating, so audiences are drawn instead to provocative arguments, insults, and demeaning language. This is especially compelling for lonely or isolated individuals, who may be more inclined to take what they see online at face value and to seek out emotionally charged content as a source of connection or validation.

Returning to the specific points raised: inflation is a complex economic phenomenon shaped by many factors, including global supply chain issues and energy markets, not just government spending on social programs. The narrative that inflation is solely the result of “printing money for illegal immigrants” oversimplifies the issue and plays into the kind of sensational arguments that drive clicks.

Similarly, the Inflation Reduction Act’s EV infrastructure funding is part of a multi-year plan, with charger installation targets set over several years rather than immediate fulfillment. Yet, in an outrage-driven media cycle, claims that “billions yielded only a few chargers” are more compelling than examining the complexities of infrastructure projects and implementation timelines.

On immigration, accusations that Democrats welcome illegal immigration to “fatten votes” are unsupported by evidence, as U.S. voting laws restrict ballots to citizens, and claims of mass voter fraud involving undocumented immigrants have been consistently debunked. However, accusations like this, particularly when unsupported, are highly engaging and designed to stoke fears and divide audiences. They reinforce sensational narratives that resonate more strongly than the nuanced realities of immigration and voting policies. The notion that members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard are entering the country, without verifiable intelligence backing, also reflects the sort of dramatic, fear-based storytelling that online and traditional media alike exploit for engagement.

The Afghanistan withdrawal, though chaotic, cannot be directly linked as the primary reason for Putin’s invasion of Ukraine. Putin’s actions were influenced by a range of long-term strategic factors that predate Biden’s presidency. However, the simplistic narrative that one event signals “weakness” and spurs aggression is easier to digest and more inflammatory than considering the actual geopolitical complexities at play.

Finally, the notion that Democrats “adore” or ignore street crime misrepresents the intentions of criminal justice reform, which aims to address systemic issues rather than enable criminal activity. Traditional media, in striving to remain relevant alongside social media’s outrage-fueled dynamics, often promotes the idea that certain parties are “soft on crime,” which adds fuel to partisan narratives without addressing the real issues behind reform efforts.

The drive for clicks and engagement has shaped the very way we understand political discourse today, with social media and traditional news alike incentivized to promote content that divides and provokes rather than informs. Voting on policies is valid and necessary, but making choices based on outrage-driven narratives can obscure the facts and perpetuate division. The question remains: does voting based on such narratives—particularly for candidates who capitalize on them—truly help address the deeper issues affecting our society? Or does it merely reinforce a cycle where public attention is manipulated for profit, rather than fostering informed and meaningful political engagement? 

This environment, fueled by outrage and sensationalism, risks diminishing our collective ability to navigate complex issues thoughtfully and cooperatively. And you've completely bought into this, vote emotionally "with pleasure", and will opportunistically accept a win while claiming that voting is rigged. Pretending to vote on policy while buying every engagement oriented moral outrage narrative the internet algorithms/trolls manipulate you with, is what it is.  

On Tuesday, November 5, 2024 at 5:07:40 PM UTC+1 spudb...@aol.com wrote:

Not really.

My voting is on policies, whether kamala did these, I would've voted for her. 

Domestically, Inflation caused by printing money to cover social expenses for illegal aliens.

The Inflation Reduction Act was raided. Specially,7.5 billion, reserved for vastly increasing the amount of EV chargers, would up with only 8. 

Illegal immigration to fatten the Dem election votes, not caring whether some of the entrants were criminals or Iranian Rev Guard Units, in country. 

Internationally, the Afghanistan witrhdrawal caused Putin to see Weakness aka like Obama, and invade Ukraine, causing the Doomsday clock to go forward. 

That is just four reasons, and 5 would be the democrats adoration and non-jailing of street thugs, and theft. 

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[Alan Grayson]

On Tuesday, November 5, 2024 at 9:07:40 AM UTC-7 spudb...@aol.com wrote:

Not really.

My voting is on policies, whether kamala did these, I would've voted for her. 

Domestically, Inflation caused by printing money to cover social expenses for illegal aliens.

The Inflation Reduction Act was raided. Specially,7.5 billion, reserved for vastly increasing the amount of EV chargers, would up with only 8. 

AFAIK, that money was allocated for EV charges. CMIIAW. AG

 

Illegal immigration to fatten the Dem election votes, not caring whether some of the entrants were criminals or Iranian Rev Guard Units, in country. 

There's no evidence that non-citizens voted in recent elections. AG

 

Internationally, the Afghanistan witrhdrawal caused Putin to see Weakness aka like Obama, and invade Ukraine, causing the Doomsday clock to go forward. 

Trump, who brags about his negotiation skills, negotiated the Afhanistan withdrawal with the Taliban, by passing the Afghan government, establishing the date certain for the withdrawal.  AG

[spudb...@aol.com]

Only in Dempocrat Party run precincts was the notion that non-citizens vote.In Virginia, despite the move by the DOJ, non-citizens were purged from the voter roles. The result of a district court ruling. 

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[spudb...@aol.com]

The non-citizens in Virgina case, was tossed out by the District Court judge, finding against the DOJ. 

IRG: https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/us-attorney-announces-murder-hire-charges-against-irgc-brigadier-general-and-former

The Democratic Socialists which now govern the D party have no means of self correcting bad policies. Everything is ideological to your team. 

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