Powerfab 360WD

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gazza

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Mar 20, 2011, 12:15:10 AM3/20/11
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Hi everyone, I just purchased a Powerfab 360WD in need of some
attention. Apart from being pulled apart, with all of the hydraulics
in a few buckets it seems to be in reasonable condition. It does
however look like it has actually fallen off the back of a truck due
to some of the repairs required.
I have spent hours looking for details of this model with the single
rear hydraulic wheel and steering, but I can't even find a photo of
this wheel, are they factory built? or is it an add on.
Does anyone have access to a spare parts list or even a hydraulic
diagram listing all of the components, actually any information would
be greatly accepted!!
thanks for your help

cheers
Gazza

Chris H

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Mar 20, 2011, 8:19:33 AM3/20/11
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Try this link, http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280640025225#description
Is this it? Wow, never heard of these before! Be interesting to see
what JIM says?
I save all Ebay seller photos of micro diggers, that are good/
different/unusuall, as a sort of scrapbook reference. This is
definatley one! I am of no practical help though I'm afraid.
Regards, Chris.

Gary McDonald

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Mar 20, 2011, 8:38:26 AM3/20/11
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Hi Chris,
thanks for the email, yes this the Powerfab I just bought!!

If you have a close look at the photos you can see that the boom has
been repaired
and the steel plate holding the drive motor which is 3/4" thick plate
has been heated up
to straighten it. It is also missing a small hydraulic steering ram on
the other side of the
framework.
Also on the photo the stabiliser leg facing the camera has been torn off
the bracket where it pivots in the housing this is 2 pieces of 1/2"
plate about 3" long.
I can post some better photos if required.
Would you suggest that this is a non standard/ one off fabrication?
cheers
Gazza

Chris H

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Mar 20, 2011, 9:26:19 AM3/20/11
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Aah Ha! Hello Gary...
I am afraid the only real knowledge I have is from 'Oily
Hands'reading. It is interesting to search though! There must be
somewhere a photo record of a complete machine?
I suppose the company at Tredegar S Wales (and elsewhere?) were
perfectly capable of making all sorts of variations on the basic
machines to try getting into different markets or small runs for
particular customers, in the 1980's? 360 slew would be very nice to
have. Well worth the time and effort.
Must be a story in how it came to Oz ??

On Mar 20, 12:38 pm, Gary McDonald <gary...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>   thanks for the email, yes this the Powerfab I just bought!!
>
> If you have a close look at the photos you can see that the boom has
> been repaired
> and the steel plate holding the drive motor which is 3/4" thick plate
> has been heated up
> to straighten it. It is also missing a small hydraulic steering ram on
> the other side of the
> framework.
> Also on the photo the stabiliser leg facing the camera has been torn off
>   the bracket where it pivots in the housing this is 2 pieces of 1/2"
> plate about 3" long.
> I can post some better photos if required.
> Would you suggest that this is a non standard/ one off fabrication?
> cheers
> Gazza
>
> On 20/03/2011 11:19 PM, Chris H wrote:
>
> > Try this link,http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280640025225#de...

gazza

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May 5, 2011, 3:52:01 AM5/5/11
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Hi all, I am progressing very slowly with this project. I am fabricating 2 new legs and feet from steel that is the same profiles as the original.
I need to find either one replacement hyd cylinder or a pair of cylinders so that I can get the hyd legs working.
Can anyone help me with some accurate measurments for the bucket and linkages to suit this 360, I can fabricate the steel to suit both of these but If start with the correct dimensions it would be a quicker and then I know it will work OK. Looking at a few photos it looks like the 125 and 360 digger use different linkage dimensions and bucket shapes, any help greatly appreciated.
cheers
Gazza

gazza

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Jun 12, 2011, 8:50:25 PM6/12/11
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Hi Guys, in my collection of parts that cam with this digger I have 3 off these inline ball valves, I assume they belong to this machine but I have no idea of their use or actual location, can anyone help out??
cheers
Gary

pj...@talktalk.net

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Jun 14, 2011, 5:57:02 PM6/14/11
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hi gazza on my 360wt the valves are fitted to the rear jacks one on
each
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Jun 14, 2011, 6:11:33 PM6/14/11
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Here's a photo on delivery day! An operator in the making
pot photos 366.JPG

gazza

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Jun 14, 2011, 6:24:08 PM6/14/11
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Hi Pete, thanks for that. Now you have me thinking though, if you need to operate these valves can you reach them from the seat or do you need to dismout to turn them open and closed and do you need to slew the machine to reach them.  Are they fitted to the hydraulic hoses between the rotary swivel lower outlet T piece and each of the rear hyd stabiliser rams

cheers
Gary

gazza

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Jun 14, 2011, 6:44:50 PM6/14/11
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Hi Pete, great photo.
there are quite a few differences that I can see, I am guessing that your 360WT is the "trailer" model and my 360WD is the "Drive" model.
The major problem I have is the rotary union only has provision to run 5 hoses from the upper engine-hydraulic circuits to the lower frame, I need 2 for the wheel motor, 2 for the rear wheel steering and 2-4 depending on the hyd circuit for the 4 stabilisers. There is a central push-pull rod through the centre of the rotary swivel this I tink operates a fwd-rev valve under the swivel for the wheel motor, but I still have too many circuits for the rotary union.
I'll try some pics
cheers
Gary

pj...@talktalk.net

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Jun 15, 2011, 5:10:51 PM6/15/11
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Hi Gary yes you have to get off to operate these valves but to change
from front to rear jacking I have two levers one each side of the seat
push forward for front
and set in rear position for the rears. As for the valves they are
fitted to the rams will try to take some more photos soon
Thanks
Pete


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gazza

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Jun 22, 2011, 10:00:34 AM6/22/11
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Hi Guys, me again. I have been looking at this top pin location on the arm of most of the 360 machines, It looks like there are 2 mounting positions for the top of the hydraulic cylinder. All the pictures I have seen have the cyl attached to the front lower pin, if you reposition the cyl to the back/upper pin it should give you greater depth, just can't lift as high.
I do remamber reading on one of the sites about a modifed powerfabs used for grave digging that could dig deeper, could this be the modification?

cheers
Gazza

Pete1961

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Jul 17, 2012, 4:52:23 PM7/17/12
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Hi Pjot69.
Sorry to rehash an old thred but have been looking at the pic you posted, granted the sticker on the machine says it's a 360WT but I am fairly sure you may have a 360C climber or 'spider' still mounted on a 'clip on' powerfab skeleton trailer.
what gives this away is the large back wheel mounted on each rear leg - also the front leg seems to sport a check valve on its ram. The back wheels are locked against rotation by pins manually engaged from out of the seat. also you can have each large wheel set at different heights, thus you can walk along a cross slope. This tech was lifted wholesale by Powerfab from Ernst Menzi (& originally Josef Kaiser when these were in partnership) Only other explanation is that it is some kind of hybrid of the 360C & WT models. Did you ever get this to run & are there any more pics anywhere??
Powerfab also built later 1200C & 1700C variants of thier tracked std mini's ('C' always denotes a climber or 'spider' in Powerfab's numbering system. anyway would love to see more pics if you are still out there.
On Tuesday, June 14, 2011 11:11:33 PM UTC+1, pjot69 wrote:
Here's a photo on delivery day! An operator in the making.

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hi gazza on my 360wt the valves are fitted to the rear jacks one on
each 
 
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Hi Guys, in my collection of parts that cam with this digger I have 3
off these inline ball valves, I assume they belong to this machine but
I have no idea of their use or actual location, can anyone help out?? 
cheers 
Gary 
 
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