Automatic switch-over to New Sllabus

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surender singh

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Aug 25, 2015, 6:42:15 AM8/25/15
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Dear Friends

Requesting you to kindly raise your voice against the notification issued by the ICSI stating that the students who have passed only 1 module under old syllabus needs to write all modules under new syllabus without any switch-over exemption.

Kindly go through the attachment 2nd page highlighted in yellow colour.
kindly do the needful for the sake of students who are suffering.

Thanks & Regards
Surender
ANNOUNCEMENT_SWITCHOVER_PROFPROG_NEWSYLL (1).pdf

Husain Wagh

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Aug 25, 2015, 6:53:52 AM8/25/15
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Dear Professional

We all agree with Mr. Surender.

It is absolutely unfair on the students. ICSI needs to re-consider this decision.


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Yogesh Jaju

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Dear Professional, 

Even me facing the same problem

As you rightly said. Institute need to re-consider this decision.

Request all our other members to unite and mail or represent/correspond before institute and try to get this notification removed. 

Expecting a good response in this regard from ICSI.

 

Regards
Yogesh Jaju

Malina Jain

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Aug 25, 2015, 7:24:00 AM8/25/15
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Dear all,

According to my interpretation, the student just has to enroll for all 3 modules, but anyhow he/she will not be required to attempt the papers in which he/she has passed, those two subjects will be exempt for him/her under new syllabus.


Regards,
Malina 

Srinivas Jakkani

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Aug 25, 2015, 7:27:46 AM8/25/15
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Dear Professionals,

I am facing a surprising situation, i have passed 3 modules i.e., 1, 3 and 4 in professional programme, but struck at 2nd module. Previous 2 attempts i have failed the 2nd module. Now, the ICSI announced that i have to write 4 papers in which 2nd module written by me 9 times but failed, now added 2 subjects additionally. 

when would i get pass all 4 subjects....? 

can any one kindly suggest me on the above situation?

Hence, friends It is absolutely unfair on the students. ICSI needs to re-consider this decision.

Request all our other members to unite and mail or represent/correspond before institute and try to get this notification removed. 

Expecting a good response in this regard from ICSI.


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surender singh

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Aug 25, 2015, 7:28:58 AM8/25/15
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Dear Malina

According to notification issued by ICSI it is not the same. please refer 2nd page it shows that students has to enrol for all three modules.

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Malina Jain

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Aug 25, 2015, 7:39:57 AM8/25/15
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Dear Mr. Surender ji,

ICSI has announced that student has to enrol for all three "modules", and not all "subjects".

But anyhow, all this is really unfair.

This matter needs to be taken up by ICSI


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Srinivas Jakkani

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Aug 25, 2015, 7:41:10 AM8/25/15
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I agreed with Malina ji...!

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Pooja

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Aug 25, 2015, 7:42:53 AM8/25/15
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Dear professionals,

Please let me know, my only last group is pending so shall i give all the three groups again?
Please guide

neha agrawal

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Aug 25, 2015, 7:46:33 AM8/25/15
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Dear Pooja

As  per Notification,

Students who shall be passing multiple number modules during June, 2015 Session (For example Module 1&2, Module 2&3, Module 1,2&4, etc.) will be eligible for switchover exemptions as per details given above and will have to appear in the remaining subjects covered under new syllabus.  

Regards,
Neha Agrawal

surender singh

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Aug 25, 2015, 7:47:15 AM8/25/15
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Dear Pooja

No need to write all 3 groups, you will get exemptions & you need to write only 3 subjects.

Those students who have cleared only 1 group under old syllabus has to enrol all 3 modules.

Srinivas Jakkani

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Dear Professionals,

I am facing a surprising situation, i have passed 3 modules i.e., 1, 3 and 4 in professional programme, but struck at 2nd module. Previous 2 attempts i have failed the 2nd module. Now, the ICSI announced that i have to write 4 papers in which 2nd module written by me 9 times but failed, now added 2 subjects additionally. 

when would i get pass all 4 subjects....? 

can any one kindly suggest me on the above situation?

Hence, friends It is absolutely unfair on the students. ICSI needs to re-consider this decision.

Pooja

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Aug 25, 2015, 7:50:01 AM8/25/15
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Dear sir,
Which 3 subjects? I had only 2 subjects.

Srinivas Jakkani

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Aug 25, 2015, 7:50:22 AM8/25/15
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Dear Professionals,

I am facing a surprising situation, i have passed 3 modules i.e., 1, 3 and 4 in professional programme, but struck at 2nd module. Previous 2 attempts i have failed the 2nd module. Now, the ICSI announced that i have to write 4 papers in which 2nd module written by me 9 times but failed, now added 2 subjects additionally. 

when would i get pass all 4 subjects....? can any one kindly suggest me on the above situation?

Hence, friends It is absolutely unfair on the students. ICSI needs to re-consider this decision.


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Pallabi Mahato

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Aug 25, 2015, 8:10:37 AM8/25/15
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Dear Pooja,

I think 3 subjects means 2 subjects of the module and 1 subject for the elective module

Thank you,
Regards.

Pallabi Mahato
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Satyajit Singh

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Aug 25, 2015, 12:43:06 PM8/25/15
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My 3 Papers are Still left and have not been yet cleared in old syllabus
1. Strategic Management
2. Corporate Restructuring
3. Advance Tax laws and Practise

So how many Papers i have to appeared in Dec 2015 exam and How much exam fees i have to be paid?

Challa Madhukar

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Aug 25, 2015, 1:02:46 PM8/25/15
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Please read page 5 of the enclosed..
The details of subject wise exemption, while switching over have been listed out..

Regards,
Madhu
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Subject: [CSMysore] Re: Automatic switch-over to New Sllabus
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Pallabi Mahato

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Aug 26, 2015, 2:04:25 AM8/26/15
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I am left with 3rd module only...means SM paper and TAX paper...as per the attachment there is no corresponding paper for SM in new 

syllabus...in that case do i have to appear for only TAX paper and one of the elective papers???



Again one of my friends is saying that in the above case we have to appear for 3 papers viz...1. TAX 2. Information Technology and 3. One of 

the elective subjects.


It is totally confusing......!!!!

Thank you,
Regards.

Pallabi Mahato
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Mail : pallabi...@gmail.com



Hiren Desai

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Aug 26, 2015, 2:35:39 AM8/26/15
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On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Pallabi Mahato <pallabi...@gmail.com> wrote:
Again one of my friends is saying that in the above case we have to appear for 3 papers viz...1. TAX 2. Information Technology and 3. One of 

Again one of my friends is saying that in the above case we have to appear for 3 papers viz...1. TAX 2. Information Technology and 3. One of 

The above answer is right


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Siddharam Billur

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Aug 26, 2015, 3:23:41 AM8/26/15
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We can fight.. surendra sir,

surender singh

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Aug 26, 2015, 7:02:06 AM8/26/15
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Sure Mr. Siddharam

we have to raise our voice as soon as possible before the examination department takes any further step.

we need support from other professional colleagues to succeed in the above issue.

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surender singh

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Aug 26, 2015, 7:09:39 AM8/26/15
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Dear Friends 

i have forward the above mail to ICSI president to provide clarification and requesting you also to do the needful.

"Alone i cannot but together we can".

P.Bharat Raj

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Aug 26, 2015, 7:14:27 AM8/26/15
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Agree with Mr Surender I will also mail the same issue to icsi president, its time to unite.

Priyanka Gupta

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Aug 26, 2015, 7:24:28 AM8/26/15
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seriously i am also frustrated with this.....if u see strategic management paper and international business law paper syllabus it is same....then they should provide exemption to students who have cleard strategic management paper and also earlier there used to be aptech/siffi training then those student who have doen this should be given exemption from IT paper....

it is unjustice....

Siddharam Billur

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Aug 26, 2015, 7:53:56 AM8/26/15
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Please read this article.. 


On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 4:12:15 PM UTC+5:30, surender singh wrote:
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surender singh

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Aug 26, 2015, 8:17:09 AM8/26/15
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Good News Friends

Finally we won.

PFA ICSI has issued clarification with respect to paperwise exemption under automatic switch-over process.

Now the students who have cleared only 1 module under old syllabus are also eligible to get exemption.


Further views of the members are solicitedd

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Clarification on Switchover to CS Professional Programme (New Syllabus).pdf

Amar Hussain Shaikh

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Aug 26, 2015, 8:22:43 AM8/26/15
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Congratulations
Congratulations
Congratulations
to Students


Amar 

Successful people carry two things on their face. Smile and Silence. Smile to solve the problems and Silence to avoid the problem

neha agrawal

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Aug 26, 2015, 8:23:06 AM8/26/15
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​Efforts Paid off. best of luck to all my fellow friends appearing in December,2015. ​

Regards,
Neha Agrawal

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Siddharam Billur

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Aug 26, 2015, 8:32:44 AM8/26/15
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Unity Wins.... Thanks to all who have supported us... thank you so much....  

Siddharam Billur

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Thank u so much..................

ramanar...@gmail.com

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congrats
M R Reddy

Priyanka Gupta

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Aug 26, 2015, 9:48:58 AM8/26/15
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pls guide me.....my 2nd group ( fm & cri )as per old syllabus not cleared....pls tell me..now i have to give 4 papers....fm, cri,IT&open book exam?

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Traine

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Aug 27, 2015, 1:02:10 AM8/27/15
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My 3rd grp is pending.....so i have to give IT + Tax & one optional paper.... Soi have to bring 50 marks each in all 3 subject ...? My friend is saying in IT 50 marks and in TAX and Optional paper aggregate required ...! kindly confirm as i am confuse.

Pallabi Mahato

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Aug 27, 2015, 1:17:41 AM8/27/15
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yes ur friend is right.....even i am in the same situation..

Thank you,
Regards.

Pallabi Mahato
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My 3rd grp is pending.....so i have to give IT + Tax & one optional paper.... Soi have to bring 50 marks each in all 3 subject ...? My friend is saying in IT 50 marks and in TAX and Optional paper aggregate required ...! kindly confirm as i am confuse.

anjali jain

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Aug 27, 2015, 1:32:01 AM8/27/15
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if only 3rd module is left in old syllabus then which paper need to be given

Hiren Desai

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Aug 27, 2015, 1:33:32 AM8/27/15
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Dear Anjali
Tax, Information Technology and Any 1 out of Elective Subject

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Pankaj Ochani

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Aug 27, 2015, 3:33:28 AM8/27/15
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I agree with Ms. Priyanka Gupta. Those who have cleared in Strategic Management should get exemption in Internationa Business Law paper, as it is same. Ans also in IT paper those who have completed their Aptech/Sifi computer training.

Rakesh

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Aug 27, 2015, 3:49:16 AM8/27/15
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Dear Pankaj

I am getting confused with all this stuff...

Plz help me.. I am left with only 3rd Module... and for strategic management I have got 66 Marks.. what are the subjects I am suppose to write now... 

Challa Madhukar

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Aug 27, 2015, 4:26:57 AM8/27/15
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Hi, 


I have compiled a simple table for switch over / change over of syllabus & hope the same helps everyone… 

  1. The old syllabus & the new syllabus are as follows 
Old Syllabus New Syllabus
Company Secretarial Practice Advanced Company law & Practice 
Drafting, Appearances & Pleadings Secretarial Audit, Compliance Management & Due Diligence
Financial, Treasury & Forex Management Corporate Restructuring
Corporate Restructuring & Insolvency IT & Systems Audit
Strategic Management, Alliances & International Trade Financial, Treasury & Forex Management
Advanced Tax Laws & Practice Ethics Governance & Sustainabiltiy
Due Diligence & Corporate Compliance Management Advanced Tax Laws & Practice
Governance, Business Ethics & Sustainability Drafting Appearances & Pleadings
Electives         (Any one from the below)
Banking Law & Practice
Capital Commodity & Money Market
Insurance Law & Practice
Intellectual Property Rights
International Business

 
The following are the subject wise exemptions, as per the notification 

As per Notification
Old Syllabus New Syllabus
Company Secretarial Practice Advanced Company law & Practice 
Drafting, Appearances & Pleadings Drafting Appearances & Pleadings
Financial, Treasury & Forex Management Financial, Treasury & Forex Management
Corporate Restructuring & Insolvency Corporate Restructuring
Advanced Tax Laws & Practice Advanced Tax Laws & Practice
Due Diligence & Corporate Compliance Management Secretarial Audit, Compliance Management & Due Diligence
Governance, Business Ethics & Sustainability Ethics Governance & Sustainabiltiy


Considering a case – similar to Rakesh, where he has completed Module 1, 2 and 4 of the old syllabus then his status would be as of now 

Case Study - Rakesh (Completed - Module 1, 2, 4)
Advanced Company law & Practice  Exempted
Secretarial Audit, Compliance Management & Due Diligence Exempted
Corporate Restructuring Exempted
IT & Systems Audit
Financial, Treasury & Forex Management Exempted
Ethics Governance & Sustainabiltiy Exempted
Advanced Tax Laws & Practice
Drafting Appearances & Pleadings Exempted
Electives         (Any one from the below)
Banking Law & Practice
Capital Commodity & Money Market
Insurance Law & Practice
Intellectual Property Rights
International Business


So here goes the catch now

  1. Since all the papers of Module 1 are exempted, Rakesh would not need to register for Module 1.
  2. However, Rakesh will have to register and appear for Module 2 & Module 3.
  3. In Module 2, he is exempted from 2 papers. So he has to Score a min of 50 marks in the remaining paper to be cleared in the module.
  4. In module 3, he has to appear for 2 papers & score a min of 40 marks to clear each paper and aggregate of 100 marks to be cleared in the module..

I have compiled this, just as a case study for everyone to understand the same.. 
Please feel free to forward any comments on the above. 

Wishing you all a great success, in the exams to come..

Thanks & Regards,
Madhu
 

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Subject: [CSMysore] Re: Automatic switch-over to New Sllabus

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Priyanka Gupta

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Aug 27, 2015, 6:39:53 AM8/27/15
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dear pankaj....we should raise voice against this.....at least we should keep our views in front of them.....

Ganapati Ghatti

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Aug 27, 2015, 6:44:05 AM8/27/15
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Guys, 

Good news. 

Everyone will get exemption. Pls look into the clarification issued by ICSI on 26.08.2015. 

Best Regards,

Ghatti




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Clarification on Switchover to CS Professional Programme (New Syllabus).pdf

Pulin Mehta

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Aug 27, 2015, 7:14:00 AM8/27/15
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BIGGER SHOCKER IS  : THAT 15 MONTH TRAINING COMPLETED IN OLD COURSE IS USELESS AND NO EXEMPTION FROM TRAINING WILL BE GIVEN IN NEW COURSE...SO ALL THE TIME SPENT IN OFFICE( 15 LONG MONTHS), ALL QUARTERLY REPORTS, THE PROJECT REPORT, ETC ALL WILL BE WASTE AND WE WILL HAVE TO WORK FOR ANOTHER 1 OR 2  YEARS TO RECOMPLETE THE TRAINING !!!

Ganapati Ghatti

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Aug 27, 2015, 7:15:38 AM8/27/15
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Who said that.?

Any official source.?

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I dont think so that we have to do re 15 month training....!

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surender singh

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Aug 27, 2015, 7:17:45 AM8/27/15
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Dear Pulin Mehta

No need to work again for 15 months. If you already completed your 15 months training it is enough. ICSI has not issued such notifications w.r.t. Training.


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Pulin Mehta

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BIGGER SHOCKER IS  : THAT 15 MONTH TRAINING COMPLETED IN OLD COURSE IS USELESS AND NO EXEMPTION FROM TRAINING WILL BE GIVEN IN NEW COURSE...SO ALL THE TIME SPENT IN OFFICE( 15 LONG MONTHS), ALL QUARTERLY REPORTS, THE PROJECT REPORT, ETC ALL WILL BE WASTE AND WE WILL HAVE TO WORK FOR ANOTHER 1 OR 2  YEARS TO RECOMPLETE THE TRAINING !!!

On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 5:52:43 PM UTC+5:30, Amar Hussain wrote:

Pulin Mehta

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Guys does anyone know any person who has cleared CS PROFESSIONAL (OLD ) SYLLABUS IN june 2015??...If yes, ask him to reply to me...Its very Important....

Pulin Mehta

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Aug 27, 2015, 7:32:07 AM8/27/15
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http://www.icsi.edu/student/training.aspx
Read the training guide in the above section... What is ICSI upto??

Pulin Mehta

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https://www.icsi.edu/WebModules/TRAINING%20GUIDE-FULL.pdf
dOWNLOAD THE TRAINING GUIDE...GO TO PAGE 12...READ POINT NO (vii) in section 2.4 !

Pulin Mehta

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https://www.icsi.edu/WebModules/TRAINING%20GUIDE-FULL.pdf
dOWNLOAD THE TRAINING GUIDE...GO TO PAGE 12...READ POINT NO (vii) in section 2.4 !

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surender singh

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Pulin Mehta

The said point says that 

vii) Student opting for switchover from earlier training structure to modified training structure will not get any credit or exemption for any period of training already undergone by them under the earlier training structure, i.e. student will not get any exemption for that duration under the modified training structure. In such cases the training under the modified training structure will start afresh. 

It means if you are switching over to new training structure, then the above point comes into picture. (New training structure is optional)

If you are continuing under old training structure then no need to bother about this.

Pooja

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Aug 27, 2015, 9:14:27 AM8/27/15
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Sir,
My last 4th grp is pending (old syllabus)
So in that case i need to opt one extra subject and then need to score 40 marks in each subject and 50% aggregate in three subjects?
Please guide

Ganapati Ghatti

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Aug 27, 2015, 9:31:46 AM8/27/15
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In addition to the two subjects, you need to write the following subjects.

1. Information Technology
2. Elective subject. 

surender singh

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Aug 28, 2015, 3:00:44 AM8/28/15
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Dear Friends

One of our friends made a petition w.r.t. old syllabus.

Kindly go through the following link & sigh it (your support required)



Senthil Kumar

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I have signed.... Thank you.

kapil dudeja

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Me too have signed. Requesting all my seniors & fellows please do sign the petition.

Sonia Tandon

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Aug 28, 2015, 3:37:11 AM8/28/15
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Guys.. We are mailing to president of icsi to increase the old sylabus for two more attmpt futher.. Becouse its harashing the old students.. 

Evry one has to fill extra groups becoz of switch over.. 
And we have to score 50 marks in each subjects to clear.. 

Which is not fair with the old sylabus students.. 

So please mail to VP and present for the extention of old sylabus for two more attmpt.. 
Email id 


Please share with your all cs friends ..
 Respected sir

I am the student of the ICSI professional level. i am left with only one group of professional level that is fourth one. 

It consist Due Diligence and ethics

Only one group for which i jave to pay only 1200 rupee in old syllbus.. But as its automatically converting in new syllbus with dec 2015. 
I would have to fill three groups which will be costing 1200*3= 3600

Its made extra 2400 burden on student . which is not fair with the students. As they already spent lots of money in clearing these examinations.. 

Becoz of the conversiion i would required to score 50 marks in each subjects which also not fair with the students and causing extra burden than other students.. 

So please by taking these concern i will request you to extend the two more attempt for old syllbus please.. 

Senthil Kumar

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Aug 28, 2015, 3:46:16 AM8/28/15
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I request all the PCS / ACS / CS etc., to support this issue.

Rakesh

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Aug 28, 2015, 4:45:25 AM8/28/15
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Thanks Madhu

But writing 2 New papers is very much difficult... and also this is the peak period for our CS Fraternity...will have lot of work during this period.... so two more opportunity is better we believe..

Really ICSI has to come up with some solution....

kapil dudeja

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Agree with Ms. Sonia tandon. Request you all FCS,ACS, to support us!

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Dear fellow members,

My friend wrote a mail to Honorable ICSI President & to all the council member's & in turn she has received following reply from Respected Vijay Jhalani sir( Council member, Government nominee)

Re: Concern for the New syllabus- CS Final
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The matter will be takrn up in Council Meeting on 3rd Sept
Vijay Jhalani,Govt Nominee
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I have attached snapshot of this reply. Further, I again request you to forward a mail to the Honorable president & CC to all the council members before 3td September. Please do the needful.

-Thanks in anticipation
Kapil Dudeja

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Santosh Dash

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Aug 29, 2015, 2:49:34 AM8/29/15
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this is not logical too

John Manoj

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Most unfair thing is, within 2 months 2 new subjects IT audit and an elective I'd to be prepared.

Regards
John

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Senthil Kumar

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Madhur Agrawal

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1. What the council has decided is in the benefit of the institute and profession; because at the council level everything is decided after long deliberation. Revision of course structure and content is continuous procedure and for the sec of few students the development of others shall not harmed.
2. ICSI has already given ample opportunity to all student before compulsory switch over.
3. The switch over norms were decided before a more than year, why didnt you all reacted at that time only.
4. All this unnecessary agitation will malign the institute, and the profession, so please stop this. If you have any issue write to the institute rather than on public forum.
5. Last but not the least, we Company Secretaries are part of system, discharging second level state functions. We are assumed to be aware about the solutions to follow at the time of distress and such kind of chaos certainly not expected from us.

Senthil Kumar

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Aug 29, 2015, 3:41:41 AM8/29/15
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Reply to Mr.Madhur Agarwal,

If a situation comes like "Those who have obtained CS Membership before the year 2010 will have to renew membership by writing a exam."

How many of you comes forward to raise voice against this? Hopefully, 99.99% 

I hope this public forum is not only the qualified members but also for students who wish to share their views.....

surender singh

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Aug 29, 2015, 3:49:24 AM8/29/15
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Mr. Madhur Agarwal

Don't speak like a politician here. 

We are suffering, that's why we are discussing in a public forum.

There are many students who has given 6 to 7 attempts but loosing their results by aggregate. They are writing well but marks awarded to them are between 85 and 90, obviously fail by aggregate.

We (old syllabus students) are not against New syllabus but we are against the addition of New subjects.

P.Bharat Raj

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Aug 29, 2015, 3:59:16 AM8/29/15
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Madhur,

It seems ur in comfort zone that why pretending suffers as lossers.

Rationale towards old syallbus students is happening.

ICSI needs to come up for solution

Yogesh Jaju

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Mr. MADHUR AGARWAL

I guess you have passed by luck that why you are using such a words.

Ever one has given their best effort but due to non transparency in correction of papers we are facing this problem.

Even I have given 3rd module for the five times with good clarity in my answer sheet still results is fail scored 85, 77, 92, 96 and 92 respectively.

Note: You might have cleared by luck not by hard work (sorry to say like this)

Anant Gupta

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Aug 29, 2015, 4:03:29 AM8/29/15
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It is not ICSI HO nd friends improve your quality, institute kuda nahi rakhta... I also failed but i know jo no. Muje mile h vo utne hi h jitni maine mehnat kari thi... So its baseless tht institute fail karta h... U dint studied thts ur fault...

Yogesh Jaju

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Aug 29, 2015, 4:09:24 AM8/29/15
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Mr ANAND GUPTA

I shall provide you with my registration details and request you to obtain CTC of my answerbook and due verify whether my answer are inline with requirement of ICSI or something rubbish I have written.

Further I shall pay for CTC

surender singh

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Mr. Anant Gupta

We don't need your baseless suggestions. It's better you stay away from this Forum.

Madhur Agrawal

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Aug 29, 2015, 4:20:21 AM8/29/15
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Thanks to all who replied to my points.

But its unfortunate that none of you responded to points I raised.

Yogesh Jaju

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Mr. MADHUKAR

It seems you dont know drafting...

See how luckily u cleared drafting paper

rahul gaikwad

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Madhur Sir, you might be right at your points, but try to understand student point of view too.
Try to understand their frustration level. they are not agitating by their choice... so dont say it is "unnecessary"   

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Yogesh, you seems out of your mind! God bless you.

If you think you are good into drafting go and apply for ICSI examiner panel, they badly need talent like you.

All the best.

surender singh

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Mr. Madhur

Don't make us to cross our limits in this forum, we don't want to use un-parliamentary language.

If you are not able to speak in the interest of students then don't make any comment on this issue.

Yogesh Jaju

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Aug 29, 2015, 4:36:29 AM8/29/15
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Mr MADHUKAR

Thanks for suggestion

More than me you require. As ur more talented

kapil dudeja

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Aug 29, 2015, 6:11:55 AM8/29/15
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Dear Madhur jee,

With due respect to the esteemed profession, I am fully agree with you but the concern I have raised is:-

If in any case old syllabus students have to a switchover to new course then why ICSI have not provide equal opportunities to all students. Let me give you an example- If a student has left only one module then such students now have to give 4 papers i.e two corresponding exams, one is elective & one is Information technology exams that means he/she have to pass total 10 subjects in final in order to become CS unlike in new syllabus where students only have to give 9 papers.
Further IT paper in 2nd module & the elective subject in 3rd module that means ultimately he/she have to all fill three modules. It means h/she have to pay exam fee for all three modules 1200*3=3600.

Its a humble request you to please consider the aforesaid issues too.

Yogesh Jaju

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Aug 29, 2015, 6:19:43 AM8/29/15
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Agree with you

kapil dudeja

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Another reply my friend received from Honorable Central Council Member Ranjit Pandey jee( File attached).

Once again I Request you all to forward your objections to the ICSI President and all the council members at their official email id's ( available on ICSI website).

-Thanks in anticipation

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Ram

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Aug 30, 2015, 9:35:43 AM8/30/15
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Dear Friends,

I have signed the petition, request others to continue the thread in order to voice out opinions of all others.  

The institute may have duly informed that the syllabus would be changed. But nobody was aware that it would be detriment to the students who are left with one module under the old syllabus. Hence, the Institute has to reconsider by providing two more attempts for such students. 

Kindly sign the petition and make the Institute aware that it is difficult for students to study new subjects.

Regards,
Ram

kapil dudeja

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Dear Mr. Ram,

I request you don't only sign the petition but also send this mail (text of mail sent mentioned below herewith)  to the Honorable  president of ICSI & CC to all the Central Council members (I repeat to all the Central Council members,since it will have much more impact). For your convenience I have complied the mail list of all the Central Council members & Honorable President if ICSI.:-

P.S- I and my friend individually already had sended this mail to below mentioned recipients and in turn my friend has received two replies from Hon Central council members, see pics attached herewith)
pres...@icsi.edu
at...@mehta-mehta.com

CC to:
v...@icsi.edu
mamta...@gmail.com
asbh...@gov.in
m...@voguestock.net
gopala...@hotmail.com
vijayj...@yahoo.com
corpor...@jhalani.co.in
yamal...@gmail.com
yamal...@yahoo.com
rajeshs...@rediffmail.com
sk.ag...@icsi.edu
santoshk...@bcml.in
in...@shyamagrawal.com
shyam....@icsi.edu
rajiv...@icsi.edu
rajiv...@in.panasonic.com
baja...@gmail.com
vineet.c...@icsi.edu
vkc...@yahoo.com
cs.ra...@gmail.com
ranjeet...@icsi.edu
satwind...@icsi.edu
satw...@vaishlaw.com
singhsa...@icloud.com
ahala...@icsi.edu
ahaladarao...@gmail.com
cs.aha...@gmail.com
gopalakri...@icsi.edu
cs.gopalakr...@gmail.com
c.ramasu...@icsi.edu
cs...@hotmail.com
csdo...@gmail.com
ashish...@icsi.edu
ashis...@icsi.edu
ashish...@gmail.com
makara...@icsi.edu
makara...@mrmcs.com
mahavir...@icsi.edu
mahavir...@pantomathgroup.com
lunawat...@gmail.com
sutanu...@icsi.edu

Text of mail sent to to the president & all the council members is:-

Dear Sir,

With due respect to our esteemed profession, I would like to convey my concern to you. I am a student of the ICSI professional level. I am left with only one group of professional level i.e fourth one.It consist Due Diligence & corporate compliance management and Governance, Business ethics & sustainability, for which i have to pay only 1200 rupee in old syllabus. But as its automatically converting in new syllabus with december 2015 attempt Now, I have to fill three groups which will be cost 1200*3= 3600. It puts an extra burden of Rs. 2400 on me as a student, which is not fair. As I have already spent lots of money in clearing these examinations..

Further, due to this switchover,all the existing students will not have an equal opportunity, for eg, if a student has left only one group then h/she have now to appear four papers i.e two corresponding subjects, one elective & One Information technology subject. Student whose only 3rd Group of CS final in Old Syllabus is left. He or She has to now give four exams out of which two of them will be completely new subjects. Do you think that's fair sir??? How they will be able to prepare for this in less than 100 days??? 95% of them are in jobs/training's how they will take time for these two brand new subjects??
Because of the conversion i would required to score 50 marks in each subjects which also not fair  and causing extra burden on me..
So please by taking these concern I humbly request you to extend the syllabus giving more opportunities for old syllabus.
Its a humble request you to kindly allow Old Syllabus students who are in CS-Final with few more opportunities to clear their pending exams. It's a matter of future of students who have spent their hard work in this. Please consider our request.

Thanking you in anticipation

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Mr. Surendar, i agree with you. all the cs students must raise voice against it. It is Completely injustice with those who have passed one module under old syllabus. Further, it is also injustice is being made by ICSI with old students that they have to give two more papers in new syllabus i.e. in total 10 papers. Those students have passed tax group they get just tax paper benefit not for SM.

surender singh

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Aug 31, 2015, 2:04:41 AM8/31/15
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Thanks Mr. Satish.

I would like to inform all my friends that ICSI president is convening a meeting with council members in this week to discuss about all the issues raised by the students. Let's see what will be the decision. 

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Rakesh

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Hi Friends

I happened to meet one of the Council Minister yesterday, and expressed our concern for not switching to new syllabus.. after discussion he said the matter has been looked up.. wait for a week to 10 Days you all will be getting GOOD NEWS, so hoping for the best and still Fingers Crossed

Ram

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Dear Mr. Kapil, 

As suggested by you, have sent a mail to the president of the Institute. 

Having read Mr. Rakesh's and Mr. Surender Singh's mail, let us all hope that there will be some relaxation for old syllabus students. 

Regards,
Ram 

Pooja

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Sep 2, 2015, 4:06:33 AM9/2/15
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any updates??

Vaishali Upadhyay

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I received a reply from Mr. D D Garg.
Please note that the revision of syllabus is a regular process in the Institute. Whenever new syllabus is introduced, Old Syllabus Students are allowed three more attempts under Old Syllabus before automatic/compulsory switchover to new syllabus. You will agree with us that revision of syllabus is an essential process keeping in view the changes taking place in the various Acts, Rules, Procedures, Business Scenario, etc. to equip the professional to provide efficient services. Please also note that  corresponding switchover exemptions are granted to the students against almost all papers passed by them under old syllabus on such compulsory switchover.  Compulsory switchover of Executive Programme (Old Syllabus) Students has already been carried out in June, 2015 Session. The process of compulsory switchover of  Professional Programme (Old Syllabus) has already started & the entire process will be completed before December, 2015 Session.

If the student enroll & appear the remaining papers under the New Syllabus and student secure at one sitting a minimum of forty per cent marks in each of the remaining papers and fifty per cent marks in the aggregate of all such  papers put together, student will be declared to have passed the Professional Programme Stage. In other words, if the student are appearing in all the remaining papers in one sitting, you will be eligible for set-off of marks across modules and in such case you need not score 50% Marks in each every paper (The criteria relating to qualifying marks is given below for your ready reference).

Life is not only about the success, failure is part of it and it gives energy to step forward to the next. Every night we go to bed, without any assurance of being alive the next morning but still we set the alarms to wake up. That's HOPE.

I can tell you from the experience gained as a CS Student, sometimes it requires fierce determination to succeed in the professional examinations.  Please keep up the spirits high and we are sure she will be able to successfully complete the Professional Programme Stage  in the coming session. Only you have completed the rest of the papers, none other than you cleared the paper for you. If you can reach up to this , then why not to the destination.  And I am confident you will get success.

Best of Luck.

With best wishes,


(D D Garg)
Additional Director (Student Services)

Vaishali Upadhyay

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Sep 2, 2015, 5:46:37 AM9/2/15
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Hello,

I just signed the petition, "President-ICSI: Help CS Students with Old syllabus and save their career."

I think this is important. Will you sign it too?

Here's the link:

http://www.change.org/p/president-icsi-help-cs-students-with-old-syllabus-and-save-their-career

Thanks,

Vaishali

surender singh

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Dear Friends

Finally our efforts worked.

ICSI has issued notification & stating that old syllabus students shall be allowed to appear in two more attempts under old syllabus i.e. Dec 2015 & June 2016. (Attachment Enclosed)

Start preparing ................... All the best. 

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rahul gaikwad

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Finally institute had given some relief.

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Good news. 

Thanks to ICSI.



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Sep 3, 2015, 2:33:42 AM9/3/15
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Great news. Thanks to all who have made their efforts for this, and thanks to ICSI.

Ganapati Ghatti

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Sep 3, 2015, 2:37:02 AM9/3/15
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But. What if the student has already switchover from old to new.?

P.Bharat Raj

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Sep 3, 2015, 2:42:58 AM9/3/15
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One of council members has said relaxation of two more attempts for old syallbus
But officially no intimation from icsi.

surender singh

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Mr. Bharat Raj

kindly look into my attachment & ICSI has posted the same on its website. 

Parithosh Rai

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ICSI will update with FAQs and other details; guess such questions will be taken care of in their next update.

kapil dudeja

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Dear Mr. P.Bharat Raj,

Pleease go through this link for official notification>> 

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