CRC NAME APPROVAL USING RUN

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CS Simranjeet Singh

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Dear All

I have filed name reservation application using RUN service and the same has been rejected on an illogical ground that proposed name resemble to an existing company. can any one pls share his/her experience of raising ticket against that name rejection. whether it really works or we have to apply with new name.

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CS Simranjeet Singh

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Hii

I have talked to MCA helpdesk.. they said whether u apply through RUN or SPICE route all applications relating to name approval and Incorporation will be dealt by CRC only.. respective ROC has no role in this.. and they said only thing u can do against rejection is raise ticket on MCA.

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Rajesh Kumar

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Jan 31, 2018, 2:03:45 AM1/31/18
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Correct. RUN and spice handled by CRC only. We got incorporation certificate for direct filing of Spice, Singed by CRC official on behalf of respective roc.

So there is no truth in rumor that power has been vested in respective roc for incorporation of the company.
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Savita

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Hi

I faced same issue regarding RUN.It was name approval for forming subsidiary of holding foreign company.I had attached notarised noc as we wanted same name as holding company ,also there is a rule that foreign companies forming subsidiary in India can be given same name.still the application was rejected stating proposed name resemble to existing company

I called call centre they said to raise ticket,am awaiting their revert.

Pradeep Kumar

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RUN is just a way to loose money. They must and should give option to apply for 6 names. 

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Dear Friends,

 

Raising ticket will also not work as they will give Diplomatic Answer that “The Form was process in accordance with the applicable Rules and provisions of the Companies Act.”

 

Further, I’ve also faced rejection of name which is 100% available by mentioning the reason that ‘Name is too general”.

 

Friends, we have to appraise this issue to MCA officials and to our institute to take appropriate action on this burning issue……

 

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Savita Vaswani

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I agree ,my ticket is closed stating same reason name not available.

Inspite of there being a clear exception in rules plus the name is available

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CS NITIN KATKAR

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We have That much experience that is

 

We have Apply for Company name with search and check on both portal it is available for formation and we search name under class 7 of trade mark that is our company business activates

 

But we have rejection on the ground such name register under class 12 of trademark we don’t understand our company business activates in class-7 then how could reject

 

It is such hopeless system design my MCA and waste of promoter money and Our time.

 

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Subject: Re: [CSMysore] Re: CRC NAME APPROVAL USING RUN

 

RUN is just a way to loose money. They must and should give option to apply for 6 names. 

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 9:29 PM, Savita <vaswani...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi

 

I faced same issue regarding RUN.It was name approval for forming subsidiary of holding foreign company.I had attached notarised noc as we wanted same name as holding company ,also there is a rule that foreign companies forming subsidiary in India can be given same name.still the application was rejected stating proposed name resemble to existing company

 

I called call centre they said to raise ticket,am awaiting their revert.



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Dear All

 

I have filed name reservation application using RUN service and the same has been rejected on an illogical ground that proposed name resemble to an existing company. can any one pls share his/her experience of raising ticket against that name rejection. whether it really works or we have to apply with new name.

 

Thanks & Regards

 

 

 

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Your Service Request SR688423 has been Resolved by MCA Service Desk.

Summary- Name Approval Related
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SKumar Sahoo

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Dear All,

Agree with all. This is the way of CRC to adjust money against  incorporation fee exempted. Last three days I applied three name and it was rejected showing prefix name registered with trademark...Wah Wah CRC..That means we can not use the prefix also. Met DROC and explained everything, they are also clueless.

Very difficult to incorporate a foreign company as the time also very less to get apostile documents.

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Madhur Agrawal

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Compile all such cases and send representation to MCA.

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CS V Kartik

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RUN is just an eyewash. Earlier atleast resubmission was allowed & we could give 6 names. Now only 1 name is allowed & if the same gets rejected, then again pay 1k & apply again

CS A Rengarajan

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ABSOLUTELY  TRUE  AND IT IS JUST  EYEWASH

REGARDS

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RUN is just an eyewash. Earlier atleast resubmission was allowed & we could give 6 names. Now only 1 name is allowed & if the same gets rejected, then again pay 1k & apply again
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CA NITIN GOYAL

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I HAVE FILED NAME FOR 2 COMPANIES AND BOTH REJECTED..

INDIA HAI CORRUPTION BHI SATH HI CHALEGA



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Bharti Ahuja

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Hi Simranjit,

If your name application is rejected on illogical grounds and you have a valid reason to prove, then I would suggest raise a ticket, write to CRC at their email crc.esc...@mca.gov.in and also write at email at MCA marking all KVR murti, Shashi Raj Dara, amarjit Singh Bhatia, concerned RoC giving details of your application. Mine was also rejected on baseless grounds and after a bit of running around over email,  reopening of tickets etc. I finally received approval. However, this entire exercise took around one month.

Hope it may help. 

Likhitkumar Masram

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Dear sir same experience 


S. V. shown as resemble to an existing company " sanjeev"

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Hi Simranjit,

If your name application is rejected on illogical grounds and you have a valid reason to prove, then I would suggest raise a ticket, write to CRC at their email crc.esc...@mca.gov.in and also write at email at MCA marking all KVR murti, Shashi Raj Dara, amarjit Singh Bhatia, concerned RoC giving details of your application. Mine was also rejected on baseless grounds and after a bit of running around over email,  reopening of tickets etc. I finally received approval. However, this entire exercise took around one month.

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CS Simranjeet Singh

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@ Bharti i must congratulate you on getting approval after so much of follow ups.. that's the spirit.. keep it up.. and thanks a lot for sharing your experience also..

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Hi Simranjit,

If your name application is rejected on illogical grounds and you have a valid reason to prove, then I would suggest raise a ticket, write to CRC at their email crc.esc...@mca.gov.in and also write at email at MCA marking all KVR murti, Shashi Raj Dara, amarjit Singh Bhatia, concerned RoC giving details of your application. Mine was also rejected on baseless grounds and after a bit of running around over email,  reopening of tickets etc. I finally received approval. However, this entire exercise took around one month.

Hope it may help. 

CS A Rengarajan

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good  move  congratulations  but in my case  all  applications  are rejected due to name resemblance but it was not there  still they have rejected 

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Rani Modi

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Dear All,

Need one guidance, we need to use the Proposed directors login details for Filing through RUN in MCA portal?

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good  move  congratulations  but in my case  all  applications  are rejected due to name resemblance but it was not there  still they have rejected 

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Savita Vaswani

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Hi

You can use your id,no need to create proposed director login details,I had confirmed this from mca helpdesk

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Rani Modi

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@Savita Thank you so much for such a prompt reply

Deepak Arya

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Hii Ms. Bhrti 

Can u pls share the email ids of  KVR murti, Shashi Raj Dara, amarjit Singh Bhatia??

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Hi Simranjit,

If your name application is rejected on illogical grounds and you have a valid reason to prove, then I would suggest raise a ticket, write to CRC at their email crc.esc...@mca.gov.in and also write at email at MCA marking all KVR murti, Shashi Raj Dara, amarjit Singh Bhatia, concerned RoC giving details of your application. Mine was also rejected on baseless grounds and after a bit of running around over email,  reopening of tickets etc. I finally received approval. However, this entire exercise took around one month.

Hope it may help. 



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Manoj Mishra

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Feb 13, 2018, 6:39:50 AM2/13/18
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I have applied two name and both are rejected by CRC without any valid ground, unreasonably extended resembleness to reject the proposed names.

CRC is still in 20th century. Bandar ke haath me Talwar de diya.

System need improvement as it is partly online.

It must be made completely online to avoid arbitrary action of CRC . i.e. Automatic online name check by MCA.

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Manoj 

Mukesh Kanazariya

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I applied three times and name was rejected on the different ground. when they asked for declaration I attach declaration for the same though they rejected on the other ground. after CRC again rejected on the Other Baseless grounds.

They have to mention all reason of rejections at a time as there is no resubmission allowed.

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Siddharam Billur

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Feb 13, 2018, 10:31:30 PM2/13/18
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Then MCA main page its saying that 'Name Reservation is Child's play'

Animesh Jha

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"Name Rejection is Child's Play "


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Then MCA main page its saying that 'Name Reservation is Child's play'

premnarayan tripathi

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:) :) :)

Yes, they are trying to make it true........
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ravisha as

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Yes i faced one issue with incorporation i raised complaint still it is not resolved every time you call them they give ready made answer issue with technical team i don't know what to  they say incorporation can be done with in 2 days they take a more than week time a resolve technical issue i really don't understand what technical team of MCA doing?.

Bharti Ahuja

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SKumar Sahoo

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Dear All,

Why ICSI is silent on this? Incorporating a company is not childs pay after republic day..

Har Har Mahadev.

R Shanmugaraja

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I have filed SPICe forms on 02.02.2018.
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It seems that Status of the 
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SPICe is Pending for issuance of PAN/TAN for the past 
​10
 days. 
I have raised ticket 
​2 times​ 
also
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but 
​received a mail which state that 
your ticket has closed successfully and 
SPICe is Pending for issuance of PAN/TAN pls wait
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it seems that the Company is incorporated ​on 05.02.2018 as per the Master date of MCA,  I have called CRC people, they are saying that they have technical problem with PAN and TAN,  We have received PAN card also but we have not yet received Certificate of Incorporation.  I am trying to reach the following mail ids also CRC.IN....@mca.gov.in and  crc.esc...@mca.gov.in which were not delivered.


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Savita Vaswani

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Hi Bharti

Do we need to keep crc escalation desk in cc along with sending emails to kvr.m...@gov.in,shash...@mca.gov.in

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No use, RUN is waste of time and money. Only those who have some contacts in CRC are getting name approval in one go.

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Do we need to keep crc escalation desk in cc along with sending emails to kvr.m...@gov.in,shashi.dara@mca.gov.in

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RUN is a no ball from MCA to RUNOUT stakeholders
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ICSI is preparing a representation to MCA on the concerns of stakeholders under RUN facility.
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Sitaram

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The MCA is doing the job of a robin hood...waiving incorporation fee upto 10 lac and recovering that money through name application.
This is being done only to score on the parameters of 'ease of doing business'
Now the govt will claim that they have eased the process of setting up business when in fact the procedure itself is opaque

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Fully agree.
I dnt knw who will gv this kind of bakvas ideas to them

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I too agree with this backdoor collection scheme.....

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Lot of corruption....Links there ask 30000 for name Approval...What's the joy

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very  true  and  name application  one has to pay more than Rs.5000

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Happy to share you that our combined efforts have some effect on MCA.  Now MCA has issued FAQ on  Reservation  and shared CRC helpline number on home page


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I think it's high time to meet the Representatives of ICSI & ICAI with the finance ministry officials and open their eyes.

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anil parmar

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We got Section-8 company name approval on 31st Jan and on 05th Feb we filed INC-12 for License still the form is pending for approval and Today is the last date to file incorporation forms.

I dont know why this Rules framed when they are not approve the forms within the time frame or is RD expecting some thing??

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The power has been delegated to ROC

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Animesh ji...
Please guide me in respect of trail email..
I have also filed  INC-12 today and my last date is 9 March. So in respect of this Section 8 license whom should I contact? ROC Jurisdiction is of Delhi.

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​INC 12 WILL BE APPROVED BY ROC ,DELHI .NOT CRC.​


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It's RoC CRC. Both RoC CRC and RoC Delhi are different.
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Sir, Do I need to contact ROC Delhi now or should I wait for 3-4 days for approval of INC-12?

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No need to worry
Because time limit of 20 days is for filling SRN in FOrm INC-12 (For Section 8) / Spice 32 (Other than 8).

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Yes sir. Waise i Will suggest ​ki aap abhi se hi try karna shuru karo.


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Name validity period in the case of Section-8 company is for filing of INC-12?? not SPICE??

As I filed INC-12 before the deadline..need not worried about SPICE?? 

Please clarify Sandip Ji
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I dnt knw they make such idiot plans." 1st they will implement, thn check, understand, changes in the original, in changes bring additional confusions, in the name of time saving try to prove yhat everyone's time is no value. Thn New Versions, Some more ' Radical Changes'.... Process keep on repeating...." ( Modified version of Naani Phalkivala's statement on Indian Law system)

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Further continuation to my query...am getting below error message while prefilling SPICE form (for Sec-8 Company-INC-12 filed but NOT approved and name expired yesterday). 
That means I need to apply again for name???

Entered SRN XXXXXXXX of Form RUN (INC-1) is not valid for filing this form.

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Animesh ji,
Today I visit ROC Delhi. and to my surprise...My INC-12 is still in QUEUE. it has not been allotted to any person in ROC. Then I contacted ROC, he told me give your SRN to my PA, I will see.
I did the same...
Lets see what will happen.

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