Re: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices

[Arlen Holder]

On 12 Nov 2020 17:37:00 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
> Apple's chip design team is *killing* it!i Bravo!

See also the actual _facts_ (not utter bullshit from Apple MARKETING)...

o The new ARM technology TSMC Silicon powered MacBook Pro maxes out at 16GB of RAM & the M1 supports only 2 USB ports
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.system/c/5QbTpwJFT-0>

o The new TSMC Silicon powered MacBook Pro can't use an eGPU (support for all non-Apple GPUs would be dropped)
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.system/c/_jHTerfLHF8>

o Which Apple CPUs, bootroms, & SEP secure enclave coprocessors do NOT already have well-known unpatchable fatal design flaws?
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/6WKS9KpSyJA/m/ycaYwqSsCQAJ>

o Boot Camp freeware to dual boot Windows & MacOS is dead on all new ARM-core Macs
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.system/c/qgnkyly9Aj4>

o Did Apple (yet again) fail in chip design (just like they did with modems) this time with graphics chips?
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.system/c/Bz7wouZhKcU>

o Yet another of the never-ending plethora of unpatchable security flaws in Apple's chips widely reported in the news today
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.system/c/l9nwDIdIIkU/m/FxNf1USgAwAJ>

etc.
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> From: Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com>
> Newsgroups:
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> Subject: Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End
16-Inch MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices
> Date: 12 Nov 2020 17:37:00 GMT
> Message-ID: <i15a5s...@mid.individual.net>
>
> Apple's chip design team is *killing* it!i Bravo!
>
> Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch
> MacBook Pro and All iOS Devices
>
> ---
>
> Apple introduced the first MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, and Mac mini with
> M1 Apple Silicon chips yesterday, and as of today, the first benchmark
> of the new chip appears to be showing up on the Geekbench site.
>
> <https://jmp.sh/X57oksC>
>
> The M1 chip, which belongs to a MacBook Air with 8GB RAM, features a
> single-core score of 1687 and a multi-core score of 7433. According to
> the benchmark, the M1 has a 3.2GHz base frequency.
>
> When compared to existing devices, the M1 chip in the MacBook Air
> outperforms all iOS devices. For comparison's sake, the iPhone 12 Pro
> earned a single-core score of 1584 and a multi-core score of 3898, while
> the highest ranked iOS device on Geekbench's charts, the A14 iPad Air,
> earned a single-core score of 1585 and a multi-core score of 4647.
>
> <https://jmp.sh/E0RKkIv>
> Single Core benchmarks
>
> In comparison to Macs, the single-core performance is better than *any*
> other available Mac, and the multi-core performance beats out all of the
> 2019 16-inch MacBook Pro models, including the 10th-generation high-end
> 2.4GHz Intel Core i9 model. That high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro earned a
> single-core score of 1096 and a multi-core score of 6870.
>
> Though the M1 chip is outperforming the 16-inch MacBook Pro models when
> it comes to raw CPU benchmarks, the 16-inch MacBook Pro likely offers
> better performance in other areas such as the GPU as those models have
> high-power discrete GPUs.
>
> <https://jmp.sh/qkyu8hL>
> Multi Core benchmarks
>
> It's worth noting that there are likely to be some performance
> differences between the MacBook Pro and the MacBook Air even though
> they're using the same M1 chip because the MacBook Air has a fanless
> design and the MacBook Pro has an new Apple-designed cooling system.
> There's also a benchmark for the Mac mini, though, and it has about the
> same scores.
>
> The Mac mini with M1 chip that was benchmarked earned a single-core
> score of 1682 and a multi-core score of 7067.
>
> Update: There's also a benchmark for the 13-inch MacBook Pro with M1
> chip and 16GB RAM that has a single-core score of 1714 and a multi-core
> score of 6802. Like the MacBook Air, it has a 3.2GHz base frequency. A
> few other MacBook Air benchmarks have surfaced too with similar scores,
> and the full list is available on Geekbench.
>
> <https://www.macrumors.com/2020/11/11/m1-macbook-air-first-benchmark/>
>
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>
> JR

[Alan Baker]

On 2020-11-12 9:54 a.m., Arlen Holder wrote:
> On 12 Nov 2020 17:37:00 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> Apple's chip design team is *killing* it!i Bravo!
>
> See also the actual _facts_ (not utter bullshit from Apple MARKETING)...
>
> o The new ARM technology TSMC Silicon powered MacBook

Since that is utter bullshit, why should I bother looking further.

Apple designs its own chips, Arlen.

Accept it.

[Alan Baker]

On 2020-11-12 10:03 a.m., Jolly Roger wrote:

> Poor little butt-hurt Arleen is a pathetic waste of life.
>

This one is particularly hilarious because he drones on endlessly about
how he is never factually incorrect.

:-)

[Arlen Holder]

New "*Qualcomm Silicon*" 5nm SOC with integrated 5G... ooops, I didn't mean
"*Qualcomm Silicon*" because Qualcomm isn't Apple who bullshits their
customers to the limits of credularity, so you won't hear "*Qualcomm
Silicon*" in their press release today of their 5nm SOC with integrated 5G:
o Qualcomm Redefines Premium at Snapdragon Tech Summit Digital 2020 (Press Release)
<https://www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/2020/12/01/qualcomm-redefines-premium-snapdragon-tech-summit-digital-2020>

I'm not sure how much is hype & how much matters, but they said it has:
o "mmWave and sub-6 across all major bands worldwide"
o "support for 5G carrier aggregation"
o "global multi-SIM"
o "stand alone, non-stand alone, and Dynamic Spectrum"
o "26 tera operations per second (TOPS)" AI
o "lower-power always-on AI processing"
o Updateable GPU Drivers"
o "Desktop Forward Rendering"
o "frame rates achieving up to 144 frames per second (fps)"
o "photos and videos at 2.7 gigapixels per second or roughly 120 photos at
12MP resolution"
As always, take any press release for what it is (MARKETING shills)...

BTW, it's "Samsung Silicon", if it's anything, but it's just stupid to call
it "*Qualcomm Silicon*" or "Samsung Silicon" even as Apple pretends to call
their TSMC Silicon ARM technology devices, "Apple Silicon", which sounds as
ridiculous as it would for Qualcomm to call this "*Qualcomm Silicon*" as a
marketing ploy to take people's minds off the fact it's Samsung Silicon.

Why doesn't Qualcomm call their own chips "*Qualcomm Silicon*" anyway?
o HINT: Qualcomm isn't 100% MARKETING and nearly 0% R&D like Apple is

See details in:
o Qualcomm SnapDragin 888 on-board 5nm X60 5G sub-6 & mmWave & 144Hz displays
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/xYQSCys6vLs>

And here for the insanely laughable R&D percentage of Apple expenditures:
o Nobody spends less in R&D % in all high tech than does Apple
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/STrAkx09VYk>
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Apple owners tend to fall for the bullshit more so than intelligent people.