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Sinister Midget
Nov 17, 2012, 12:46:42 PM11/17/12
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Yesterday I needed to move a file I had on my linux drive to a
Windummie machine at work. A /specific/ Windummie machine.
I copy the file to a plain Jane Lexar thumb drive, then move the drive
to Windoze. Windross does it's usual popup game: "Yay! Look at me! I
found something! Yay! It's a USB device! Yay! I'm setting it up
now! Yay! Look at me!!"
Then an error popped up. These aren't the exact words, but they're the
exact meaning. "Windowes has a problem. It's too stupid to recognize
a simple thumb drive. Contact your manufacturer to see if they can
think of a way around Winders' inherent stupidity, because Lord knows
we can't or we would have already done it."
I know the device is good. So I plug it into another port. This time it
connects OK and opens up to let me see the files. I start copying the
one I need to move and suddenly another popup (Again, paraphrasing):
"Windross is retarded and lost connection to the device. Wanna be an
idiot and try again, or would you rather just give up now?"
OK, so maybe the device is bad. I move the drive to another machine. It
sets it up and I copy the file over without a problem. I do the same
on a third machine.
AHA! So the problem is likely a port or the USB subsystem on the first
Windummie machine. So I whip out a linux live CD, boot the suspect
machine, plug the thumb drive in and mount it. Then I copy the file to
the machine. No sweat.
OK, so maybe the reboot fixed it. I boot the machine as Windopes and
plug the thumb drive into the port that didn't see it earlier. It
connects OK. I start copying the file again, and the popup shows up
once more: "Hey, stupid! Didn't I just tell you awhile ago that I
can't talk to this device? It's not there again in the middle of the
copy. Now stop trying before I start spontaneously rebooting on you!"
I move the drive to the port that almost worked before and it blinks a
couple of times, then a popup appears: "Did you just plug in a spoon or
something? I don't know what that is."
I take the thumb drive to another machine, and copy the same file back
and forth 5 times. No failure at all. 5 times. I reboot the failing
machine with a limux CD and copy the same file back and forth 5 times.
No failure at all.
I then go back to the linux machine, copy the same file to a different
Lexar thumb drive, take it to the failing machine booted to Windwoes.
It sets the drive up and the file copies without a hitch.
Windross is "professional" "software" that "professionals" "use" to
"get 'professional' work done" in a "professional" way!
--
Felinious Assault: Striking someone with a cat.
Dell Inspiron 530, Snowlinux 3 Crystal
Friends don't let friends use Windows
Windummie machine at work. A /specific/ Windummie machine.
I copy the file to a plain Jane Lexar thumb drive, then move the drive
to Windoze. Windross does it's usual popup game: "Yay! Look at me! I
found something! Yay! It's a USB device! Yay! I'm setting it up
now! Yay! Look at me!!"
Then an error popped up. These aren't the exact words, but they're the
exact meaning. "Windowes has a problem. It's too stupid to recognize
a simple thumb drive. Contact your manufacturer to see if they can
think of a way around Winders' inherent stupidity, because Lord knows
we can't or we would have already done it."
I know the device is good. So I plug it into another port. This time it
connects OK and opens up to let me see the files. I start copying the
one I need to move and suddenly another popup (Again, paraphrasing):
"Windross is retarded and lost connection to the device. Wanna be an
idiot and try again, or would you rather just give up now?"
OK, so maybe the device is bad. I move the drive to another machine. It
sets it up and I copy the file over without a problem. I do the same
on a third machine.
AHA! So the problem is likely a port or the USB subsystem on the first
Windummie machine. So I whip out a linux live CD, boot the suspect
machine, plug the thumb drive in and mount it. Then I copy the file to
the machine. No sweat.
OK, so maybe the reboot fixed it. I boot the machine as Windopes and
plug the thumb drive into the port that didn't see it earlier. It
connects OK. I start copying the file again, and the popup shows up
once more: "Hey, stupid! Didn't I just tell you awhile ago that I
can't talk to this device? It's not there again in the middle of the
copy. Now stop trying before I start spontaneously rebooting on you!"
I move the drive to the port that almost worked before and it blinks a
couple of times, then a popup appears: "Did you just plug in a spoon or
something? I don't know what that is."
I take the thumb drive to another machine, and copy the same file back
and forth 5 times. No failure at all. 5 times. I reboot the failing
machine with a limux CD and copy the same file back and forth 5 times.
No failure at all.
I then go back to the linux machine, copy the same file to a different
Lexar thumb drive, take it to the failing machine booted to Windwoes.
It sets the drive up and the file copies without a hitch.
Windross is "professional" "software" that "professionals" "use" to
"get 'professional' work done" in a "professional" way!
--
Felinious Assault: Striking someone with a cat.
Dell Inspiron 530, Snowlinux 3 Crystal
Friends don't let friends use Windows
Snit
Nov 17, 2012, 1:21:39 PM11/17/12
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On 11/17/12 10:46 AM, in article 25vkn9-...@czakl.harry.net, "Sinister
Given your idiotic description I suspect you made the whole thing up.
--
"90% of computers use Microsoft's Windows ... Macs account for 9% of the
market while the open source system Linux accounts for 0.8%."
-- Linus Torvalds
--
"90% of computers use Microsoft's Windows ... Macs account for 9% of the
market while the open source system Linux accounts for 0.8%."
-- Linus Torvalds
Hadron
Nov 17, 2012, 1:23:21 PM11/17/12
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Sinister Midget <fardb...@gmail.com> writes:
> Yesterday I needed to move a file I had on my linux drive to a
> Windummie machine at work. A /specific/ Windummie machine.
>
> I copy the file to a plain Jane Lexar thumb drive, then move the drive
> to Windoze. Windross does it's usual popup game: "Yay! Look at me! I
> found something! Yay! It's a USB device! Yay! I'm setting it up
> now! Yay! Look at me!!"
>
> Then an error popped up. These aren't the exact words, but they're the
> exact meaning. "Windowes has a problem. It's too stupid to recognize
> a simple thumb drive. Contact your manufacturer to see if they can
> think of a way around Winders' inherent stupidity, because Lord knows
> we can't or we would have already done it."
meanwhile the rest of the world seems capable of using these drives with
> Yesterday I needed to move a file I had on my linux drive to a
> Windummie machine at work. A /specific/ Windummie machine.
>
> I copy the file to a plain Jane Lexar thumb drive, then move the drive
> to Windoze. Windross does it's usual popup game: "Yay! Look at me! I
> found something! Yay! It's a USB device! Yay! I'm setting it up
> now! Yay! Look at me!!"
>
> Then an error popped up. These aren't the exact words, but they're the
> exact meaning. "Windowes has a problem. It's too stupid to recognize
> a simple thumb drive. Contact your manufacturer to see if they can
> think of a way around Winders' inherent stupidity, because Lord knows
> we can't or we would have already done it."
windows just fine. You're an idiot.
Onion Knight
Nov 17, 2012, 1:30:23 PM11/17/12
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Chris Ahlstrom
Nov 17, 2012, 1:46:32 PM11/17/12
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After swilling some grog, Sinister Midget belched this bit o' wisdom:
http://www.pctools.com/registry-mechanic/
--
No one said it was easy. The names confuse people. As clearly homer
was. What an arse. Shilling TomB who got all warm and
fuzzy. Well. Enough. Its slap down time again.
Those that follow the "advocates" talking shit will notice an important
issue : aptitude and apt. Note : apt. NOT apt-get.
But lets not stop there, lets really rub the noses in the shit they
fling around:-
Looks like Homer and TomB contributed and got promptly spanked!
LOL But lets not stop there!
Ready .. ok... Cringing yet TomB and Homer? You should be. You're bloody
idiots. You really thing I make this stuff up? I use Debian day in and
day out. Why would I lie : I mention these things to stop people having
the same issues. Had Creepy listened tome about how to CORRECTLY install
Nvidia he wouldnt have had a BSOD after a kernel update!
etc etc etc
I could go on.
Now : enough of making fools of yourself. An apology would be welcome
but it wont be forthcoming. You keep on with the mutual reacharounds and
stick your head in the sand as usual.
-- "Hadron" <id65hc$kfr$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
--
No one said it was easy. The names confuse people. As clearly homer
was. What an arse. Shilling TomB who got all warm and
fuzzy. Well. Enough. Its slap down time again.
Those that follow the "advocates" talking shit will notice an important
issue : aptitude and apt. Note : apt. NOT apt-get.
But lets not stop there, lets really rub the noses in the shit they
fling around:-
Looks like Homer and TomB contributed and got promptly spanked!
LOL But lets not stop there!
Ready .. ok... Cringing yet TomB and Homer? You should be. You're bloody
idiots. You really thing I make this stuff up? I use Debian day in and
day out. Why would I lie : I mention these things to stop people having
the same issues. Had Creepy listened tome about how to CORRECTLY install
Nvidia he wouldnt have had a BSOD after a kernel update!
etc etc etc
I could go on.
Now : enough of making fools of yourself. An apology would be welcome
but it wont be forthcoming. You keep on with the mutual reacharounds and
stick your head in the sand as usual.
-- "Hadron" <id65hc$kfr$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
Clogwog
Nov 17, 2012, 2:47:28 PM11/17/12
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Meanwhile the rest of the world has NO problem with USB on a windows box.
< lol > it was "thought of by Miccysoft" afterall, so it must be working,
you pathetic clown!
--
Dummkopf in COLA: USB is really good for (what) ?? , In my opinion, USB is
just a piece of shit, thought of by Miccysoft.
Message-ID: <92b984$aeg$04$1...@news.t-online.com>
philo
Nov 17, 2012, 3:05:00 PM11/17/12
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On 11/17/2012 11:46 AM, Sinister Midget wrote:
> Yesterday I needed to move a file I had on my linux drive to a
> Windummie machine at work. A /specific/ Windummie machine.
>
> I copy the file to a plain Jane Lexar thumb drive, then move the drive
> to Windoze. Windross does it's usual popup game: "Yay! Look at me! I
> found something! Yay! It's a USB device! Yay! I'm setting it up
> now! Yay! Look at me!!"
>
Though some here think you made the story up I have no reason to
> Yesterday I needed to move a file I had on my linux drive to a
> Windummie machine at work. A /specific/ Windummie machine.
>
> I copy the file to a plain Jane Lexar thumb drive, then move the drive
> to Windoze. Windross does it's usual popup game: "Yay! Look at me! I
> found something! Yay! It's a USB device! Yay! I'm setting it up
> now! Yay! Look at me!!"
>
disbelieve you.
Had you deleted the USB devices in "device manager" and rebooted to let
Windows re-enumerate you *might* have solved the problem in 3 minutes.
Tattoo Vampire
Nov 17, 2012, 3:13:04 PM11/17/12
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Onion Knight wrote:
> You made that up.
Hi, Snit!
--
If you want to know about paranoids, follow them around.
[tv]
> You made that up.
Hi, Snit!
--
If you want to know about paranoids, follow them around.
[tv]
Tattoo Vampire
Nov 17, 2012, 3:14:05 PM11/17/12
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Snit wrote:
> Given your idiotic description I suspect you made the whole thing up.
No one cares what you suspect, Snot.
> Given your idiotic description I suspect you made the whole thing up.
Go dream up some new sock names for your next Snot Circus.
Snit
Nov 17, 2012, 3:57:15 PM11/17/12
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On 11/17/12 1:13 PM, in article imv07u1m3kvp$.dlg@sitting.at.this.computer,
--
"I started Linux as a desktop operating system. And it's the only area
where Linux hasn't completely taken over. That just annoys the hell out
of me." -- Linus Torvalds
"Tattoo Vampire" <sit...@this.computer> wrote:
> Onion Knight wrote:
>
>> You made that up.
>
> Hi, Snit!
You see me everywhere... a sign of your paranoia.
> Onion Knight wrote:
>
>> You made that up.
>
> Hi, Snit!
--
"I started Linux as a desktop operating system. And it's the only area
where Linux hasn't completely taken over. That just annoys the hell out
of me." -- Linus Torvalds
Chris Ahlstrom
Nov 17, 2012, 4:21:38 PM11/17/12
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After swilling some grog, Tattoo Vampire belched this bit o' wisdom:
> Snit wrote:
>
>> Given your idiotic description I suspect you made the whole thing up.
>
> No one cares what you suspect, Snot.
>
> Go dream up some new sock names for your next Snot Circus.
Man, it seems like DFS, Flounder, Snit, Zeke, et al. are coalescing [1]
in one big indistinguishable ball of nasty.
[1] For the benefit of our illiterate philistine troll:
From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 [gcide]:
Coalesce \Co`a*lesce"\, v. i. [imp. & p. p. {Coalesced}; p. pr.
& vb. n. {Coalescing}.] [L. coalescere, coalitium; co- +
alescere to grow up, incho. fr. alere to nourish. See
{Aliment}, n.]
1. To grow together; to unite by growth into one body; as,
the parts separated by a wound coalesce.
[1913 Webster]
2. To unite in one body or product; to combine into one body
or community; as, vapors coalesce.
[1913 Webster]
The Jews were incapable of coalescing with other
nations. --Campbell.
[1913 Webster]
Certain combinations of ideas that, once coalescing,
could not be shaken loose. --De Quincey.
Syn: See {Add}.
[1913 Webster]
From WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006) [wn]:
coalesce
v 1: mix together different elements; "The colors blend well"
[syn: {blend}, {flux}, {mix}, {conflate}, {commingle},
{immix}, {fuse}, {coalesce}, {meld}, {combine}, {merge}]
2: fuse or cause to grow together
From Moby Thesaurus II by Grady Ward, 1.0 [moby-thes]:
121 Moby Thesaurus words for "coalesce":
act in concert, act together, add, adhere, admix, affiliate, alloy,
ally, amalgamate, assimilate, associate, band, band together,
be in league, bemingle, blend, bracket, cleave, cling,
club together, coact, collaborate, collude, combine, come together,
commingle, commix, compose, compound, comprise, concert, concoct,
concord, concur, confederate, conglomerate, conjoin, connect,
consolidate, conspire, cooperate, do business with, embody,
emulsify, encompass, federate, flux, fuse, get heads together,
get together, go partners, hang together, harmonize, hash,
hold together, homogenize, hook up, identify, immingle, immix,
include, incorporate, integrate, interblend, interfuse, interlace,
interlard, intermingle, intermix, intertwine, interweave, join,
join in, join together, jumble, keep together, knead, league,
league together, link, lump together, make common cause, make one,
meld, melt into one, merge, mingle, mingle-mangle, mix, mix up,
partner, play ball, pull together, put heads together,
put together, reciprocate, reembody, relate, roll into one,
scramble, shade into, shuffle, solidify, stand together, stick,
stir up, syncretize, syndicate, synthesize, team up,
throw in together, throw together, tie in, tie up, toss together,
unify, unite, unite efforts, wed, work, work together
--
You are telling lies again Raytard. I never thought of you as a bare
faced liar before. My comments on CSS are spot on. AND I can back them
up with links and references. Don't be a dick ALL your life
raytard. Call a spade a spade but dont tell lies and make things
up. It's lame.
-- "Hadron" <idlnuq$u07$9...@news.eternal-september.org>
> Snit wrote:
>
>> Given your idiotic description I suspect you made the whole thing up.
>
> No one cares what you suspect, Snot.
>
> Go dream up some new sock names for your next Snot Circus.
in one big indistinguishable ball of nasty.
[1] For the benefit of our illiterate philistine troll:
From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 [gcide]:
Coalesce \Co`a*lesce"\, v. i. [imp. & p. p. {Coalesced}; p. pr.
& vb. n. {Coalescing}.] [L. coalescere, coalitium; co- +
alescere to grow up, incho. fr. alere to nourish. See
{Aliment}, n.]
1. To grow together; to unite by growth into one body; as,
the parts separated by a wound coalesce.
[1913 Webster]
2. To unite in one body or product; to combine into one body
or community; as, vapors coalesce.
[1913 Webster]
The Jews were incapable of coalescing with other
nations. --Campbell.
[1913 Webster]
Certain combinations of ideas that, once coalescing,
could not be shaken loose. --De Quincey.
Syn: See {Add}.
[1913 Webster]
From WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006) [wn]:
coalesce
v 1: mix together different elements; "The colors blend well"
[syn: {blend}, {flux}, {mix}, {conflate}, {commingle},
{immix}, {fuse}, {coalesce}, {meld}, {combine}, {merge}]
2: fuse or cause to grow together
From Moby Thesaurus II by Grady Ward, 1.0 [moby-thes]:
121 Moby Thesaurus words for "coalesce":
act in concert, act together, add, adhere, admix, affiliate, alloy,
ally, amalgamate, assimilate, associate, band, band together,
be in league, bemingle, blend, bracket, cleave, cling,
club together, coact, collaborate, collude, combine, come together,
commingle, commix, compose, compound, comprise, concert, concoct,
concord, concur, confederate, conglomerate, conjoin, connect,
consolidate, conspire, cooperate, do business with, embody,
emulsify, encompass, federate, flux, fuse, get heads together,
get together, go partners, hang together, harmonize, hash,
hold together, homogenize, hook up, identify, immingle, immix,
include, incorporate, integrate, interblend, interfuse, interlace,
interlard, intermingle, intermix, intertwine, interweave, join,
join in, join together, jumble, keep together, knead, league,
league together, link, lump together, make common cause, make one,
meld, melt into one, merge, mingle, mingle-mangle, mix, mix up,
partner, play ball, pull together, put heads together,
put together, reciprocate, reembody, relate, roll into one,
scramble, shade into, shuffle, solidify, stand together, stick,
stir up, syncretize, syndicate, synthesize, team up,
throw in together, throw together, tie in, tie up, toss together,
unify, unite, unite efforts, wed, work, work together
--
You are telling lies again Raytard. I never thought of you as a bare
faced liar before. My comments on CSS are spot on. AND I can back them
up with links and references. Don't be a dick ALL your life
raytard. Call a spade a spade but dont tell lies and make things
up. It's lame.
-- "Hadron" <idlnuq$u07$9...@news.eternal-september.org>
Snit
Nov 17, 2012, 4:33:55 PM11/17/12
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On 11/17/12 2:21 PM, in article k88v51$3j4$2...@dont-email.me, "Chris Ahlstrom"
such a way - with such extreme bias and absurdity - that he *clearly* was
making up the error messages and the like. Given that there is no reason to
believe any of the claim.
If he wants to be believed he should put his biases aside. There is no doubt
Windows handles thumb drives poorly - if nothing else it has to reload
drivers for each USB port *and* it alerts you when things go *right* but
often not when they go *wrong*. Completely backwards of what it should do.
--
"In fact, the main goal of Linux might be called usability... the most
important thing is that it works well and people ... want to use it."
-- Linus Torvalds
<ad...@cyberbully.com> wrote:
> After swilling some grog, Tattoo Vampire belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> Snit wrote:
>>
>>> Given your idiotic description I suspect you made the whole thing up.
>>
>> No one cares what you suspect, Snot.
>>
>> Go dream up some new sock names for your next Snot Circus.
>
> Man, it seems like DFS, Flounder, Snit, Zeke, et al. are coalescing [1]
> in one big indistinguishable ball of nasty.
Note, I am not saying he *did* make it up, but he presented the situation in
> After swilling some grog, Tattoo Vampire belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> Snit wrote:
>>
>>> Given your idiotic description I suspect you made the whole thing up.
>>
>> No one cares what you suspect, Snot.
>>
>> Go dream up some new sock names for your next Snot Circus.
>
> Man, it seems like DFS, Flounder, Snit, Zeke, et al. are coalescing [1]
> in one big indistinguishable ball of nasty.
such a way - with such extreme bias and absurdity - that he *clearly* was
making up the error messages and the like. Given that there is no reason to
believe any of the claim.
If he wants to be believed he should put his biases aside. There is no doubt
Windows handles thumb drives poorly - if nothing else it has to reload
drivers for each USB port *and* it alerts you when things go *right* but
often not when they go *wrong*. Completely backwards of what it should do.
--
"In fact, the main goal of Linux might be called usability... the most
important thing is that it works well and people ... want to use it."
-- Linus Torvalds
Ian Hilliard
Nov 17, 2012, 4:48:54 PM11/17/12
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weapons. The OS that he so vigorously defends is indefensible.
Most people just bitch how bad computers are, because trolls like you
have conned them into believing that all PC run Windows and therefore
all computers behave erraticly.
At least they did, but along comes Apple and shows that there is a
better way. This is why Apple are doing so well.
If there were a big company with a big marketing budget behind Linux,
you fuddsters wouldn't stand a chance.
Most people use Windows because they are either forced to or don't know
any better. Muttering about how bad the computer and computer system is,
has become a standard part of office life.
Wollen Sie Windows oder wollen Sie gleich etwas gutes.
Ian
Henk & Ingrid
Nov 17, 2012, 4:51:47 PM11/17/12
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Snit wrote:
> On 11/17/12 1:13 PM, in article
> imv07u1m3kvp$.dlg@sitting.at.this.computer, "Tattoo Vampire"
> <sit...@this.computer> wrote:
>
>> Onion Knight wrote:
>>
>>> You made that up.
>>
>> Hi, Snit!
>
> You see me everywhere... a sign of your paranoia.
Maybe he just wants to have sex with you, stalkers usually do.
> On 11/17/12 1:13 PM, in article
> imv07u1m3kvp$.dlg@sitting.at.this.computer, "Tattoo Vampire"
> <sit...@this.computer> wrote:
>
>> Onion Knight wrote:
>>
>>> You made that up.
>>
>> Hi, Snit!
>
> You see me everywhere... a sign of your paranoia.
http://abusesanctuary.blogspot.nl/2009/01/restraining-orders-may-restrain-nothing.html
"stalking motives are usually sexual (or love obsessional)"
Snit
Nov 17, 2012, 4:57:12 PM11/17/12
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On 11/17/12 2:51 PM, in article 201211172150...@anonymous.usenet,
When I noted that about one of my stalkers I was told by, well, another of
my stalkers that this means I was sexually harassing the first stalker.
Insane. Seems I collect stalkers on Usenet. I wish they would all go away.
my stalkers that this means I was sexually harassing the first stalker.
Insane. Seems I collect stalkers on Usenet. I wish they would all go away.
Snit
Nov 17, 2012, 4:59:17 PM11/17/12
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On 11/17/12 2:48 PM, in article agqf27...@mid.individual.net, "Ian
Windows is used because it is good enough. Sometimes it also is the best
tool for the job (esp. if there is some software that is Windows only).
OS X is used because it is better - but it is also more expensive to
acquire. Also there are times it is not well suited for tasks.
Desktop Linux is not used - even though it is free. It is not pre-installed
because it is not desired. It simply is behind the competition.
--
"Linux desktop is why I got into Linux in the first place. I mean, I
have never, ever cared about really anything but the Linux desktop."
-- Linus Torvalds
Hilliard" <nos...@nospam.org> wrote:
>> meanwhile the rest of the world seems capable of using these drives with
>> windows just fine. You're an idiot.
>>
>
> Once again we have Hadron hurling abuse, because he has no other
> weapons. The OS that he so vigorously defends is indefensible.
>
> Most people just bitch how bad computers are, because trolls like you
> have conned them into believing that all PC run Windows and therefore
> all computers behave erraticly.
>
> At least they did, but along comes Apple and shows that there is a
> better way. This is why Apple are doing so well.
>
> If there were a big company with a big marketing budget behind Linux,
> you fuddsters wouldn't stand a chance.
>
> Most people use Windows because they are either forced to or don't know
> any better. Muttering about how bad the computer and computer system is,
> has become a standard part of office life.
>
> Wollen Sie Windows oder wollen Sie gleich etwas gutes.
>
> Ian
In general:
>> meanwhile the rest of the world seems capable of using these drives with
>> windows just fine. You're an idiot.
>>
>
> Once again we have Hadron hurling abuse, because he has no other
> weapons. The OS that he so vigorously defends is indefensible.
>
> Most people just bitch how bad computers are, because trolls like you
> have conned them into believing that all PC run Windows and therefore
> all computers behave erraticly.
>
> At least they did, but along comes Apple and shows that there is a
> better way. This is why Apple are doing so well.
>
> If there were a big company with a big marketing budget behind Linux,
> you fuddsters wouldn't stand a chance.
>
> Most people use Windows because they are either forced to or don't know
> any better. Muttering about how bad the computer and computer system is,
> has become a standard part of office life.
>
> Wollen Sie Windows oder wollen Sie gleich etwas gutes.
>
> Ian
Windows is used because it is good enough. Sometimes it also is the best
tool for the job (esp. if there is some software that is Windows only).
OS X is used because it is better - but it is also more expensive to
acquire. Also there are times it is not well suited for tasks.
Desktop Linux is not used - even though it is free. It is not pre-installed
because it is not desired. It simply is behind the competition.
--
"Linux desktop is why I got into Linux in the first place. I mean, I
have never, ever cared about really anything but the Linux desktop."
-- Linus Torvalds
DFS
Nov 17, 2012, 5:57:57 PM11/17/12
to
us the exact, real wording.
Chris Ahlstrom
Nov 17, 2012, 6:04:00 PM11/17/12
to
After swilling some grog, Ian Hilliard belched this bit o' wisdom:
> On 17/11/12 19:23, Hadron wrote:
>> Sinister Midget <fardb...@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Then an error popped up. These aren't the exact words, but they're the
>>> exact meaning. "Windowes has a problem. It's too stupid to recognize
>>> a simple thumb drive. Contact your manufacturer to see if they can
>>> think of a way around Winders' inherent stupidity, because Lord knows
>>> we can't or we would have already done it."
>>
>> meanwhile the rest of the world seems capable of using these drives with
>> windows just fine. You're an idiot.
>
> Once again we have Hadron hurling abuse, because he has no other
> weapons. The OS that he so vigorously defends is indefensible.
Apparently, "Hadron" has never had the experience of plugging a USB hard
drive into Windows 2003 Server, and not getting *any* response.
After some years where this worked, it seems (from my angle) that some
patch made it so that you now have to go into the Disk Management tool,
figure out which drive represents your plugged in USB drive, and
allocate a drive letter to it!
> Most people just bitch how bad computers are, because trolls like you
> have conned them into believing that all PC run Windows and therefore
> all computers behave erraticly.
>
> At least they did, but along comes Apple and shows that there is a
> better way. This is why Apple are doing so well.
>
> If there were a big company with a big marketing budget behind Linux,
> you fuddsters wouldn't stand a chance.
>
> Most people use Windows because they are either forced to or don't know
> any better. Muttering about how bad the computer and computer system is,
> has become a standard part of office life.
>
> Wollen Sie Windows oder wollen Sie gleich etwas gutes.
"Swollen" would describe the trolls head.
I think MS Office is in the latter stages of rococo:
--
"In the long run, every program becomes rococo, and then rubble."
-- Alan Perlis
> On 17/11/12 19:23, Hadron wrote:
>> Sinister Midget <fardb...@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Then an error popped up. These aren't the exact words, but they're the
>>> exact meaning. "Windowes has a problem. It's too stupid to recognize
>>> a simple thumb drive. Contact your manufacturer to see if they can
>>> think of a way around Winders' inherent stupidity, because Lord knows
>>> we can't or we would have already done it."
>>
>> meanwhile the rest of the world seems capable of using these drives with
>> windows just fine. You're an idiot.
>
> Once again we have Hadron hurling abuse, because he has no other
> weapons. The OS that he so vigorously defends is indefensible.
drive into Windows 2003 Server, and not getting *any* response.
After some years where this worked, it seems (from my angle) that some
patch made it so that you now have to go into the Disk Management tool,
figure out which drive represents your plugged in USB drive, and
allocate a drive letter to it!
> Most people just bitch how bad computers are, because trolls like you
> have conned them into believing that all PC run Windows and therefore
> all computers behave erraticly.
>
> At least they did, but along comes Apple and shows that there is a
> better way. This is why Apple are doing so well.
>
> If there were a big company with a big marketing budget behind Linux,
> you fuddsters wouldn't stand a chance.
>
> Most people use Windows because they are either forced to or don't know
> any better. Muttering about how bad the computer and computer system is,
> has become a standard part of office life.
>
> Wollen Sie Windows oder wollen Sie gleich etwas gutes.
I think MS Office is in the latter stages of rococo:
--
"In the long run, every program becomes rococo, and then rubble."
-- Alan Perlis
William Poaster
Nov 17, 2012, 6:04:15 PM11/17/12
to
Ian Hilliard wrote:
> On 17/11/12 19:23, Hadron wrote:
>> Sinister Midget <fardb...@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Yesterday I needed to move a file I had on my linux drive to a
>>> Windummie machine at work. A /specific/ Windummie machine.
>>>
>>> I copy the file to a plain Jane Lexar thumb drive, then move the drive
>>> to Windoze. Windross does it's usual popup game: "Yay! Look at me! I
>>> found something! Yay! It's a USB device! Yay! I'm setting it up
>>> now! Yay! Look at me!!"
>>>
>>> Then an error popped up. These aren't the exact words, but they're the
>>> exact meaning. "Windowes has a problem. It's too stupid to recognize
>>> a simple thumb drive. Contact your manufacturer to see if they can
>>> think of a way around Winders' inherent stupidity, because Lord knows
>>> we can't or we would have already done it."
>>
>>
>> meanwhile the rest of the world seems capable of using these drives with
>> windows just fine. You're an idiot.
>>
Oh, the irony!
> On 17/11/12 19:23, Hadron wrote:
>> Sinister Midget <fardb...@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Yesterday I needed to move a file I had on my linux drive to a
>>> Windummie machine at work. A /specific/ Windummie machine.
>>>
>>> I copy the file to a plain Jane Lexar thumb drive, then move the drive
>>> to Windoze. Windross does it's usual popup game: "Yay! Look at me! I
>>> found something! Yay! It's a USB device! Yay! I'm setting it up
>>> now! Yay! Look at me!!"
>>>
>>> Then an error popped up. These aren't the exact words, but they're the
>>> exact meaning. "Windowes has a problem. It's too stupid to recognize
>>> a simple thumb drive. Contact your manufacturer to see if they can
>>> think of a way around Winders' inherent stupidity, because Lord knows
>>> we can't or we would have already done it."
>>
>>
>> meanwhile the rest of the world seems capable of using these drives with
>> windows just fine. You're an idiot.
>>
<q>
I "could not install Ubuntu". I had *hellish* problems with it primarily
because (a) I was new to Linux and (b) It didnt work half the time
with my HW despite the liars in COLA claiming it worked for me. When I
learnt more I moved to Debian and big issues with nvidia and SATA
drives. <uq> Hadron - Message-ID:
<v7oc2uy...@news.eternal-september.org
This from the trolling fuckwit, when many GNU/Linux users had been using
SATA drives without any trouble, & *yes* it did "work for them".
Furthermore, the Hadron troll is *still* a newbie when it comes to
GNU/Linux.
> Once again we have Hadron hurling abuse, because he has no other
> weapons. The OS that he so vigorously defends is indefensible.
> Most people just bitch how bad computers are, because trolls like you
> have conned them into believing that all PC run Windows and therefore
> all computers behave erraticly.
>
> At least they did, but along comes Apple and shows that there is a
> better way. This is why Apple are doing so well.
>
> If there were a big company with a big marketing budget behind Linux,
> you fuddsters wouldn't stand a chance.
>
> Most people use Windows because they are either forced to or don't know
> any better. Muttering about how bad the computer and computer system is,
> has become a standard part of office life.
>
> Wollen Sie Windows oder wollen Sie gleich etwas gutes.
>
> Ian
1f u c4n r34d th1s u r34lly n33d t0 g37 l41d
Scientific-Linux 6.3 64-bit.
DFS
Nov 17, 2012, 6:08:52 PM11/17/12
to
On 11/17/2012 4:48 PM, Ian Hilliard wrote:
> On 17/11/12 19:23, Hadron wrote:
>> Sinister Midget <fardb...@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Yesterday I needed to move a file I had on my linux drive to a
>>> Windummie machine at work. A /specific/ Windummie machine.
>>>
>>> I copy the file to a plain Jane Lexar thumb drive, then move the drive
>>> to Windoze. Windross does it's usual popup game: "Yay! Look at me! I
>>> found something! Yay! It's a USB device! Yay! I'm setting it up
>>> now! Yay! Look at me!!"
>>>
>>> Then an error popped up. These aren't the exact words, but they're the
>>> exact meaning. "Windowes has a problem. It's too stupid to recognize
>>> a simple thumb drive. Contact your manufacturer to see if they can
>>> think of a way around Winders' inherent stupidity, because Lord knows
>>> we can't or we would have already done it."
>>
>>
>> meanwhile the rest of the world seems capable of using these drives with
>> windows just fine. You're an idiot.
>>
>
> Once again we have Hadron hurling abuse, because he has no other
> weapons. The OS that he so vigorously defends is indefensible.
>
> Most people just bitch how bad computers are, because trolls like you
> have conned them into believing that all PC run Windows and therefore
> all computers behave erraticly.
At some point many if not most computers, regardless of the OS, do
> On 17/11/12 19:23, Hadron wrote:
>> Sinister Midget <fardb...@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Yesterday I needed to move a file I had on my linux drive to a
>>> Windummie machine at work. A /specific/ Windummie machine.
>>>
>>> I copy the file to a plain Jane Lexar thumb drive, then move the drive
>>> to Windoze. Windross does it's usual popup game: "Yay! Look at me! I
>>> found something! Yay! It's a USB device! Yay! I'm setting it up
>>> now! Yay! Look at me!!"
>>>
>>> Then an error popped up. These aren't the exact words, but they're the
>>> exact meaning. "Windowes has a problem. It's too stupid to recognize
>>> a simple thumb drive. Contact your manufacturer to see if they can
>>> think of a way around Winders' inherent stupidity, because Lord knows
>>> we can't or we would have already done it."
>>
>>
>> meanwhile the rest of the world seems capable of using these drives with
>> windows just fine. You're an idiot.
>>
>
> Once again we have Hadron hurling abuse, because he has no other
> weapons. The OS that he so vigorously defends is indefensible.
>
> Most people just bitch how bad computers are, because trolls like you
> have conned them into believing that all PC run Windows and therefore
> all computers behave erraticly.
behave erratically, because they're designed, built and coded by humans.
This Win7 system I've been running for a couple years has been the most
flawless system I've ever run. About once every 4-6 months I'll wake it
from sleep and my wired MS keyboard won't type anything. Unplug and
replug and it's fixed.
Before that WinServer2003 was EXTREMELY reliable and stable, as was Win2K.
> At least they did, but along comes Apple and shows that there is a
> better way. This is why Apple are doing so well.
>
> If there were a big company with a big marketing budget behind Linux,
> you fuddsters wouldn't stand a chance.
Let us know when you buy Linux software from a big company.
> Most people use Windows because they are either forced to or don't know
> any better.
and know what an OS is, and understand how to use and evaluate software.
> Muttering about how bad the computer and computer system is,
> has become a standard part of office life.
DFS
Nov 17, 2012, 6:21:03 PM11/17/12
to
I want a refund.
Snit
Nov 17, 2012, 6:40:32 PM11/17/12
to
On 11/17/12 4:08 PM, in article k895f1$bev$1...@dont-email.me, "DFS"
never quite figured it out fully, but USB devices would sometimes die -
keyboards, mice, a hub... too much power being sent to them or something.
Apple replaced my iMac with a newer model and doubled my memory for the
trouble.
...
--
"But I have never, ever even run a Linux server and I don't even want
to; it's not what I'm interested in. I'm more of a desktop guy."
-- Linus Torvalds
<nos...@dfs.com> wrote:
>> Once again we have Hadron hurling abuse, because he has no other
>> weapons. The OS that he so vigorously defends is indefensible.
>>
>> Most people just bitch how bad computers are, because trolls like you
>> have conned them into believing that all PC run Windows and therefore
>> all computers behave erraticly.
>
>
> At some point many if not most computers, regardless of the OS, do
> behave erratically, because they're designed, built and coded by humans.
>
> This Win7 system I've been running for a couple years has been the most
> flawless system I've ever run. About once every 4-6 months I'll wake it
> from sleep and my wired MS keyboard won't type anything. Unplug and
> replug and it's fixed.
I had that with my iMac... turned out to be a hardware issue. Apple and I
>> Once again we have Hadron hurling abuse, because he has no other
>> weapons. The OS that he so vigorously defends is indefensible.
>>
>> Most people just bitch how bad computers are, because trolls like you
>> have conned them into believing that all PC run Windows and therefore
>> all computers behave erraticly.
>
>
> At some point many if not most computers, regardless of the OS, do
> behave erratically, because they're designed, built and coded by humans.
>
> This Win7 system I've been running for a couple years has been the most
> flawless system I've ever run. About once every 4-6 months I'll wake it
> from sleep and my wired MS keyboard won't type anything. Unplug and
> replug and it's fixed.
never quite figured it out fully, but USB devices would sometimes die -
keyboards, mice, a hub... too much power being sent to them or something.
Apple replaced my iMac with a newer model and doubled my memory for the
trouble.
...
--
"But I have never, ever even run a Linux server and I don't even want
to; it's not what I'm interested in. I'm more of a desktop guy."
-- Linus Torvalds
Justin
Nov 17, 2012, 7:15:12 PM11/17/12
to
On 11/17/2012 12:46 PM, Sinister Midget wrote:
> Yesterday I needed to move a file I had on my linux drive to a
> Windummie machine at work. A /specific/ Windummie machine.
>
> I copy the file to a plain Jane Lexar thumb drive, then move the drive
> to Windoze. Windross does it's usual popup game: "Yay! Look at me! I
> found something! Yay! It's a USB device! Yay! I'm setting it up
> now! Yay! Look at me!!"
>
Same thing happened to me when I put an exFAT SD card in a reader
> Windummie machine at work. A /specific/ Windummie machine.
>
> I copy the file to a plain Jane Lexar thumb drive, then move the drive
> to Windoze. Windross does it's usual popup game: "Yay! Look at me! I
> found something! Yay! It's a USB device! Yay! I'm setting it up
> now! Yay! Look at me!!"
>
running Ubuntu.
Chris Ahlstrom
Nov 17, 2012, 8:13:05 PM11/17/12
to
After swilling some grog, Justin belched this bit o' wisdom:
You should have had IT format it. Where I work they format devices in
exFAT format using a Linux laptop.
--
>> Here's a better close-up of <name snipped>
>> http://gamesnet.vo.llnwd.net/o1/gamestar/objects/103240_main.jpg
> Amazingly good looking, <name snipped> / <name snipped> / <name snipped>.
Is that Liarnut's foot sticking out?
-- "Hadron" <h4kdbt$2sn$1...@news.eternal-september.org>; me-toos a
turd-troll post.
exFAT format using a Linux laptop.
--
>> Here's a better close-up of <name snipped>
>> http://gamesnet.vo.llnwd.net/o1/gamestar/objects/103240_main.jpg
> Amazingly good looking, <name snipped> / <name snipped> / <name snipped>.
Is that Liarnut's foot sticking out?
-- "Hadron" <h4kdbt$2sn$1...@news.eternal-september.org>; me-toos a
turd-troll post.
Sinister Midget
Nov 17, 2012, 10:16:16 PM11/17/12
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On 2012-11-17, Chris Ahlstrom <ad...@cyberbully.com> claimed:
> http://www.pctools.com/registry-mechanic/
Oh no you don't! I don't need that. The Windopes tell us Winders is so
easy to use even granny can do it. Granny wouldn't know anything about
registry repair.
--
For exercise, men can walk. Women talk.
> http://www.pctools.com/registry-mechanic/
Oh no you don't! I don't need that. The Windopes tell us Winders is so
easy to use even granny can do it. Granny wouldn't know anything about
registry repair.
--
For exercise, men can walk. Women talk.
Snit
Nov 17, 2012, 11:46:03 PM11/17/12
to
On 11/17/12 8:16 PM, in article 0h0mn9-...@czakl.harry.net, "Sinister
computer to a tech. No shame in doing so.
Midget" <fardb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2012-11-17, Chris Ahlstrom <ad...@cyberbully.com> claimed:
>
>> http://www.pctools.com/registry-mechanic/
>
> Oh no you don't! I don't need that. The Windopes tell us Winders is so
> easy to use even granny can do it. Granny wouldn't know anything about
> registry repair.
Ah, so do what "Granny" does and take your car to a mechanic and your
> On 2012-11-17, Chris Ahlstrom <ad...@cyberbully.com> claimed:
>
>> http://www.pctools.com/registry-mechanic/
>
> Oh no you don't! I don't need that. The Windopes tell us Winders is so
> easy to use even granny can do it. Granny wouldn't know anything about
> registry repair.
computer to a tech. No shame in doing so.
Justin
Nov 18, 2012, 1:15:39 AM11/18/12
to
On 11/17/2012 8:13 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> After swilling some grog, Justin belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> On 11/17/2012 12:46 PM, Sinister Midget wrote:
>>> Yesterday I needed to move a file I had on my linux drive to a
>>> Windummie machine at work. A /specific/ Windummie machine.
>>>
>>> I copy the file to a plain Jane Lexar thumb drive, then move the drive
>>> to Windoze. Windross does it's usual popup game: "Yay! Look at me! I
>>> found something! Yay! It's a USB device! Yay! I'm setting it up
>>> now! Yay! Look at me!!"
>>
>> Same thing happened to me when I put an exFAT SD card in a reader
>> running Ubuntu.
>
> You should have had IT format it. Where I work they format devices in
> exFAT format using a Linux laptop.
>
Format a SD card with pictures on it?
> After swilling some grog, Justin belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> On 11/17/2012 12:46 PM, Sinister Midget wrote:
>>> Yesterday I needed to move a file I had on my linux drive to a
>>> Windummie machine at work. A /specific/ Windummie machine.
>>>
>>> I copy the file to a plain Jane Lexar thumb drive, then move the drive
>>> to Windoze. Windross does it's usual popup game: "Yay! Look at me! I
>>> found something! Yay! It's a USB device! Yay! I'm setting it up
>>> now! Yay! Look at me!!"
>>
>> Same thing happened to me when I put an exFAT SD card in a reader
>> running Ubuntu.
>
> You should have had IT format it. Where I work they format devices in
> exFAT format using a Linux laptop.
>
What package did you use to get exFAT read and write working?
Hadron
Nov 18, 2012, 4:09:23 AM11/18/12
to
Ian Hilliard <nos...@nospam.org> writes:
> On 17/11/12 19:23, Hadron wrote:
>> Sinister Midget <fardb...@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Yesterday I needed to move a file I had on my linux drive to a
>>> Windummie machine at work. A /specific/ Windummie machine.
>>>
>>> I copy the file to a plain Jane Lexar thumb drive, then move the drive
>>> to Windoze. Windross does it's usual popup game: "Yay! Look at me! I
>>> found something! Yay! It's a USB device! Yay! I'm setting it up
>>> now! Yay! Look at me!!"
>>>
>>> Then an error popped up. These aren't the exact words, but they're the
>>> exact meaning. "Windowes has a problem. It's too stupid to recognize
>>> a simple thumb drive. Contact your manufacturer to see if they can
>>> think of a way around Winders' inherent stupidity, because Lord knows
>>> we can't or we would have already done it."
>>
>>
>> meanwhile the rest of the world seems capable of using these drives with
>> windows just fine. You're an idiot.
>>
>
> Once again we have Hadron hurling abuse, because he has no other weapons. The OS
> that he so vigorously defends is indefensible.
I dont defend windows. I do call an idiot and idiot. And you are an
> On 17/11/12 19:23, Hadron wrote:
>> Sinister Midget <fardb...@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Yesterday I needed to move a file I had on my linux drive to a
>>> Windummie machine at work. A /specific/ Windummie machine.
>>>
>>> I copy the file to a plain Jane Lexar thumb drive, then move the drive
>>> to Windoze. Windross does it's usual popup game: "Yay! Look at me! I
>>> found something! Yay! It's a USB device! Yay! I'm setting it up
>>> now! Yay! Look at me!!"
>>>
>>> Then an error popped up. These aren't the exact words, but they're the
>>> exact meaning. "Windowes has a problem. It's too stupid to recognize
>>> a simple thumb drive. Contact your manufacturer to see if they can
>>> think of a way around Winders' inherent stupidity, because Lord knows
>>> we can't or we would have already done it."
>>
>>
>> meanwhile the rest of the world seems capable of using these drives with
>> windows just fine. You're an idiot.
>>
>
> Once again we have Hadron hurling abuse, because he has no other weapons. The OS
> that he so vigorously defends is indefensible.
idiot. As is gidget.
Are you really such a dick that you think usb sticks dont work with
Windows?
Sure there will always be some issues : but there are loads of such with
Linux too.
>
> Most people just bitch how bad computers are, because trolls like you have
> conned them into believing that all PC run Windows and therefore all computers
> behave erraticly.
installation tiring of the constant fight with dependeny issues when
trying to use newer libraries/backports with squeeze.
>
> At least they did, but along comes Apple and shows that there is a better
> way. This is why Apple are doing so well.
>
> If there were a big company with a big marketing budget behind Linux, you
> fuddsters wouldn't stand a chance.
Hadron
Nov 18, 2012, 4:11:22 AM11/18/12
to
Chris Ahlstrom <ad...@cyberbully.com> writes:
> After swilling some grog, Ian Hilliard belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> On 17/11/12 19:23, Hadron wrote:
>>> Sinister Midget <fardb...@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Then an error popped up. These aren't the exact words, but they're the
>>>> exact meaning. "Windowes has a problem. It's too stupid to recognize
>>>> a simple thumb drive. Contact your manufacturer to see if they can
>>>> think of a way around Winders' inherent stupidity, because Lord knows
>>>> we can't or we would have already done it."
>>>
>>> meanwhile the rest of the world seems capable of using these drives with
>>> windows just fine. You're an idiot.
>>
>> Once again we have Hadron hurling abuse, because he has no other
>> weapons. The OS that he so vigorously defends is indefensible.
>
> Apparently, "Hadron" has never had the experience of plugging a USB hard
> drive into Windows 2003 Server, and not getting *any* response.
I dont use Windows 2003 server Creepy. I use debian. When I have needed
> After swilling some grog, Ian Hilliard belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> On 17/11/12 19:23, Hadron wrote:
>>> Sinister Midget <fardb...@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Then an error popped up. These aren't the exact words, but they're the
>>>> exact meaning. "Windowes has a problem. It's too stupid to recognize
>>>> a simple thumb drive. Contact your manufacturer to see if they can
>>>> think of a way around Winders' inherent stupidity, because Lord knows
>>>> we can't or we would have already done it."
>>>
>>> meanwhile the rest of the world seems capable of using these drives with
>>> windows just fine. You're an idiot.
>>
>> Once again we have Hadron hurling abuse, because he has no other
>> weapons. The OS that he so vigorously defends is indefensible.
>
> Apparently, "Hadron" has never had the experience of plugging a USB hard
> drive into Windows 2003 Server, and not getting *any* response.
to transfer files between windows and linux using a stick I pretty much
never had any issues.
FFS, the world and their mother use them with Windows day in day out.
> After some years where this worked, it seems (from my angle) that some
> patch made it so that you now have to go into the Disk Management tool,
> figure out which drive represents your plugged in USB drive, and
> allocate a drive letter to it!
You're a sad little man at times.
>
>> Most people just bitch how bad computers are, because trolls like you
>> have conned them into believing that all PC run Windows and therefore
>> all computers behave erraticly.
>>
>> At least they did, but along comes Apple and shows that there is a
>> better way. This is why Apple are doing so well.
>>
>> If there were a big company with a big marketing budget behind Linux,
>> you fuddsters wouldn't stand a chance.
>>
>> Most people use Windows because they are either forced to or don't know
>> any better. Muttering about how bad the computer and computer system is,
>> has become a standard part of office life.
>>
>> Wollen Sie Windows oder wollen Sie gleich etwas gutes.
>
> "Swollen" would describe the trolls head.
>
> I think MS Office is in the latter stages of rococo:
to suck up to be accepted.
--
A certain COLA "advocate" faking his user-agent in order to pretend to be a Linux
user: User-Agent: Outlook 5.5 (WinNT 5.0), User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.0
(Linux), Message-ID: <wPGdnd3NnOM...@comcast.com>
Hadron
Nov 18, 2012, 4:12:05 AM11/18/12
to
Chris Ahlstrom <ad...@cyberbully.com> writes:
> After swilling some grog, Justin belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> On 11/17/2012 12:46 PM, Sinister Midget wrote:
>>> Yesterday I needed to move a file I had on my linux drive to a
>>> Windummie machine at work. A /specific/ Windummie machine.
>>>
>>> I copy the file to a plain Jane Lexar thumb drive, then move the drive
>>> to Windoze. Windross does it's usual popup game: "Yay! Look at me! I
>>> found something! Yay! It's a USB device! Yay! I'm setting it up
>>> now! Yay! Look at me!!"
>>
>> Same thing happened to me when I put an exFAT SD card in a reader
>> running Ubuntu.
>
> You should have had IT format it. Where I work they format devices in
> exFAT format using a Linux laptop.
Possibly he could format his RAM while he's at it too? As recommended by
> After swilling some grog, Justin belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> On 11/17/2012 12:46 PM, Sinister Midget wrote:
>>> Yesterday I needed to move a file I had on my linux drive to a
>>> Windummie machine at work. A /specific/ Windummie machine.
>>>
>>> I copy the file to a plain Jane Lexar thumb drive, then move the drive
>>> to Windoze. Windross does it's usual popup game: "Yay! Look at me! I
>>> found something! Yay! It's a USB device! Yay! I'm setting it up
>>> now! Yay! Look at me!!"
>>
>> Same thing happened to me when I put an exFAT SD card in a reader
>> running Ubuntu.
>
> You should have had IT format it. Where I work they format devices in
> exFAT format using a Linux laptop.
your mate "genius" 7. giggle!
Chris Ahlstrom
Nov 18, 2012, 7:55:27 AM11/18/12
to
After swilling some grog, Justin belched this bit o' wisdom:
> On 11/17/2012 8:13 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> After swilling some grog, Justin belched this bit o' wisdom:
>>
>>> On 11/17/2012 12:46 PM, Sinister Midget wrote:
>>>> Yesterday I needed to move a file I had on my linux drive to a
>>>> Windummie machine at work. A /specific/ Windummie machine.
>>>>
>>>> I copy the file to a plain Jane Lexar thumb drive, then move the drive
>>>> to Windoze. Windross does it's usual popup game: "Yay! Look at me! I
>>>> found something! Yay! It's a USB device! Yay! I'm setting it up
>>>> now! Yay! Look at me!!"
>>>
>>> Same thing happened to me when I put an exFAT SD card in a reader
>>> running Ubuntu.
>>
>> You should have had IT format it. Where I work they format devices in
>> exFAT format using a Linux laptop.
>
> Format a SD card with pictures on it?
No pictures. Because Windows is so prone to malware loaded on USB and
> On 11/17/2012 8:13 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> After swilling some grog, Justin belched this bit o' wisdom:
>>
>>> On 11/17/2012 12:46 PM, Sinister Midget wrote:
>>>> Yesterday I needed to move a file I had on my linux drive to a
>>>> Windummie machine at work. A /specific/ Windummie machine.
>>>>
>>>> I copy the file to a plain Jane Lexar thumb drive, then move the drive
>>>> to Windoze. Windross does it's usual popup game: "Yay! Look at me! I
>>>> found something! Yay! It's a USB device! Yay! I'm setting it up
>>>> now! Yay! Look at me!!"
>>>
>>> Same thing happened to me when I put an exFAT SD card in a reader
>>> running Ubuntu.
>>
>> You should have had IT format it. Where I work they format devices in
>> exFAT format using a Linux laptop.
>
> Format a SD card with pictures on it?
flash media, all such drives have to be formatted and certified by IT
before being use.
> What package did you use to get exFAT read and write working?
exfat-fuse and exfat-utils should you wish to use that
Microsoft-licensed file system (you know, the one where they made up for
letting FAT out of the licensing bag -- that's why exfat has been kept
out of the mainline Linux kernel).
You can get a licensed version of exfat from "Tuxera" apparently. You
can also check out http://code.google.com/p/exfat/, another FUSE
implementation of the driver.
Is there *nothing* in Linux-Land that "Hadron" doesn't *lie* about?:
--
> Yes, Linux networking is, and always was :-
> 1) Easy > 2) Reliable > 3) Bleeding edge
ANYONE that has used Linux on anything like modern HW 2 years ago knows
you to be a liar and talking garbage.
Modern wireless networking was hard, hard, hard for many, Even talking
about "wpa_supplicant" (only idiots use wpa anyway if its at all
related) was enough to put people off. Fortunately wiser heads got
together and started on projects like wicd - they got sick of the "works
for me" crowd. Certainly with NW manager I couldnt move from home to
office to cafe and expect it to "just work" on wireless properly. With
wicd it does.
-- "Hadron" <h6gjo3$s7b$4...@news.eternal-september.org>
Chris Ahlstrom
Nov 18, 2012, 7:56:35 AM11/18/12
to
After swilling some grog, Sinister Midget belched this bit o' wisdom:
> On 2012-11-17, Chris Ahlstrom <ad...@cyberbully.com> claimed:
>
>> http://www.pctools.com/registry-mechanic/
>
> Oh no you don't! I don't need that. The Windopes tell us Winders is so
> easy to use even granny can do it. Granny wouldn't know anything about
> registry repair.
Well, she can take it to Office Depot then. It'll only cost her $80 or
$100 or so.
--
You're dead, Jim.
-- McCoy, "The Tholian Web", stardate unknown
> On 2012-11-17, Chris Ahlstrom <ad...@cyberbully.com> claimed:
>
>> http://www.pctools.com/registry-mechanic/
>
> Oh no you don't! I don't need that. The Windopes tell us Winders is so
> easy to use even granny can do it. Granny wouldn't know anything about
> registry repair.
$100 or so.
--
You're dead, Jim.
-- McCoy, "The Tholian Web", stardate unknown
Ezekiel
Nov 18, 2012, 7:59:04 AM11/18/12
to
"Sinister Midget" <fardb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:25vkn9-...@czakl.harry.net...
> Yesterday I needed to move a file I had on my linux drive to a
> Windummie machine at work. A /specific/ Windummie machine.
>
> I copy the file to a plain Jane Lexar thumb drive,
> then move the drive to Windoze.
>
>
> I move the drive to another machine...I do the same
> on a third machine.
>
> ...on the first Windummie machine. ...I boot the machine
I see that this technology called a "network" hasn't found it's way to your
village yet.
Most people no longer do the equivalent of "sneaker-net" these days. They
say this "network" thing is going to be big some day. Who knows.
--
"It's not so much the threat of divorce, as making your every moment at home
a living hell. My wife used to dole out my weekly allowance, $20, and then
quiz me about where I spent it, as she didn't expect me to buy snacks and
such."
Chris Ahlstrom - emasculated wimp without a spine.
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/ecaf21d667b4afca?hl=en
news:25vkn9-...@czakl.harry.net...
> Yesterday I needed to move a file I had on my linux drive to a
> Windummie machine at work. A /specific/ Windummie machine.
>
> I copy the file to a plain Jane Lexar thumb drive,
> then move the drive to Windoze.
>
>
> on a third machine.
>
> ...on the first Windummie machine. ...I boot the machine
> I take the thumb drive to another machine, and copy the same file
> I then go back to the linux machine... take it to the failing machine
I see that this technology called a "network" hasn't found it's way to your
village yet.
Most people no longer do the equivalent of "sneaker-net" these days. They
say this "network" thing is going to be big some day. Who knows.
--
"It's not so much the threat of divorce, as making your every moment at home
a living hell. My wife used to dole out my weekly allowance, $20, and then
quiz me about where I spent it, as she didn't expect me to buy snacks and
such."
Chris Ahlstrom - emasculated wimp without a spine.
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/ecaf21d667b4afca?hl=en
Ian Hilliard
Nov 18, 2012, 8:24:24 AM11/18/12
to
On 18/11/12 10:09, Hadron wrote:
> Ian Hilliard <nos...@nospam.org> writes:
>
>> On 17/11/12 19:23, Hadron wrote:
>>> Sinister Midget <fardb...@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Yesterday I needed to move a file I had on my linux drive to a
>>>> Windummie machine at work. A /specific/ Windummie machine.
>>>>
>>>> I copy the file to a plain Jane Lexar thumb drive, then move the drive
>>>> to Windoze. Windross does it's usual popup game: "Yay! Look at me! I
>>>> found something! Yay! It's a USB device! Yay! I'm setting it up
>>>> now! Yay! Look at me!!"
>>>>
>>>> Then an error popped up. These aren't the exact words, but they're the
>>>> exact meaning. "Windowes has a problem. It's too stupid to recognize
>>>> a simple thumb drive. Contact your manufacturer to see if they can
>>>> think of a way around Winders' inherent stupidity, because Lord knows
>>>> we can't or we would have already done it."
>>>
>>>
>>> meanwhile the rest of the world seems capable of using these drives with
>>> windows just fine. You're an idiot.
>>>
>>
>> Once again we have Hadron hurling abuse, because he has no other weapons. The OS
>> that he so vigorously defends is indefensible.
>
> I dont defend windows. I do call an idiot and idiot. And you are an
> idiot. As is gidget.
>
> Are you really such a dick that you think usb sticks dont work with
> Windows?
>
I have never said that USB sticks don't work with Windows. I said that
> Ian Hilliard <nos...@nospam.org> writes:
>
>> On 17/11/12 19:23, Hadron wrote:
>>> Sinister Midget <fardb...@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Yesterday I needed to move a file I had on my linux drive to a
>>>> Windummie machine at work. A /specific/ Windummie machine.
>>>>
>>>> I copy the file to a plain Jane Lexar thumb drive, then move the drive
>>>> to Windoze. Windross does it's usual popup game: "Yay! Look at me! I
>>>> found something! Yay! It's a USB device! Yay! I'm setting it up
>>>> now! Yay! Look at me!!"
>>>>
>>>> Then an error popped up. These aren't the exact words, but they're the
>>>> exact meaning. "Windowes has a problem. It's too stupid to recognize
>>>> a simple thumb drive. Contact your manufacturer to see if they can
>>>> think of a way around Winders' inherent stupidity, because Lord knows
>>>> we can't or we would have already done it."
>>>
>>>
>>> meanwhile the rest of the world seems capable of using these drives with
>>> windows just fine. You're an idiot.
>>>
>>
>> Once again we have Hadron hurling abuse, because he has no other weapons. The OS
>> that he so vigorously defends is indefensible.
>
> I dont defend windows. I do call an idiot and idiot. And you are an
> idiot. As is gidget.
>
> Are you really such a dick that you think usb sticks dont work with
> Windows?
>
Windows refused to format a particular USB Stick with NTFS and Linux had
no issues. Once the stick was formatted with NTFS, the service laptop
had no problems reading the log files. I would however have preferred to
have formatted with LOGFS, but the service laptops don't support it.
> Sure there will always be some issues : but there are loads of such with
> Linux too.
>
>>
>> Most people just bitch how bad computers are, because trolls like you have
>> conned them into believing that all PC run Windows and therefore all computers
>> behave erraticly.
>
> Huh? I use Debian. In fact I *finally* fully switched to a 64 bit Wheezy
> installation tiring of the constant fight with dependeny issues when
> trying to use newer libraries/backports with squeeze.
>
turn out being hard. I run 64-bit Linux Mint Maya Mate and apart from
having to install the 32-bit compatibility libraries for some 32-bit
applications, I have had no issues with Linux applications.
I do have an issue with Windows applications running on Crossover
office. Since moving to 64-Bit, some Windows applications claim that the
install files are corrupt. Fortunately, I am able to install them using
a 32-bit install on a USB Stick and they still work when I boot with the
64-bit install on the hard drive.
Ian
Chris Ahlstrom
Nov 18, 2012, 8:57:55 AM11/18/12
to
After swilling some grog, Ian Hilliard belched this bit o' wisdom:
> On 18/11/12 10:09, Hadron wrote:
>
>> Huh? I use Debian. In fact I *finally* fully switched to a 64 bit Wheezy
>> installation tiring of the constant fight with dependeny issues when
>> trying to use newer libraries/backports with squeeze.
>
> If you insist on doing things the hard way, don't be surprised if they
> turn out being hard.
"Hadron" *must* make Linux hard. How else can he froth and foam and fud
Linux (and its users) here?
> I run 64-bit Linux Mint Maya Mate and apart from
> having to install the 32-bit compatibility libraries for some 32-bit
> applications, I have had no issues with Linux applications.
>
> I do have an issue with Windows applications running on Crossover
> office. Since moving to 64-Bit, some Windows applications claim that the
> install files are corrupt. Fortunately, I am able to install them using
> a 32-bit install on a USB Stick and they still work when I boot with the
> 64-bit install on the hard drive.
Windows is still well behind Linux in 64-bit support. For example, on
my 64-bit Windows 7 setup, Microsoft Office is still 32-bits, and there
is a 32-bit version of Internet Explorer (along with a 64-bit version).
And many of the applications I downloaded for Windows 7 end up being
installed in C:/Program Files (x86). <chuckle>
--
Wow. You really are scum. You are supporting stealing someone's identity for
immoral and illegal reasons. Possibly like Gregory Shearman, you feel that
posting emails with that email address directly to people is no more nasty
than posting to usenet (of which probably 1 tenth of a percent of online
users even use). Just as I thought COLA "advocates" could not get any
lower. Mind you - it's in your blood I daresay.
-- "Hadron". Copied from Google Groups.
> On 18/11/12 10:09, Hadron wrote:
>
>> Huh? I use Debian. In fact I *finally* fully switched to a 64 bit Wheezy
>> installation tiring of the constant fight with dependeny issues when
>> trying to use newer libraries/backports with squeeze.
>
> If you insist on doing things the hard way, don't be surprised if they
> turn out being hard.
Linux (and its users) here?
> I run 64-bit Linux Mint Maya Mate and apart from
> having to install the 32-bit compatibility libraries for some 32-bit
> applications, I have had no issues with Linux applications.
>
> I do have an issue with Windows applications running on Crossover
> office. Since moving to 64-Bit, some Windows applications claim that the
> install files are corrupt. Fortunately, I am able to install them using
> a 32-bit install on a USB Stick and they still work when I boot with the
> 64-bit install on the hard drive.
my 64-bit Windows 7 setup, Microsoft Office is still 32-bits, and there
is a 32-bit version of Internet Explorer (along with a 64-bit version).
And many of the applications I downloaded for Windows 7 end up being
installed in C:/Program Files (x86). <chuckle>
--
Wow. You really are scum. You are supporting stealing someone's identity for
immoral and illegal reasons. Possibly like Gregory Shearman, you feel that
posting emails with that email address directly to people is no more nasty
than posting to usenet (of which probably 1 tenth of a percent of online
users even use). Just as I thought COLA "advocates" could not get any
lower. Mind you - it's in your blood I daresay.
-- "Hadron". Copied from Google Groups.
Homer
Nov 18, 2012, 11:39:54 AM11/18/12
to
Verily I say unto thee that Sinister Midget spake thusly:
> to the machine. No sweat.
Windows' hardware enumeration is diabolically crap, USB especially so.
There are "ENUM" sections in the dreaded Registry that are roughly
equivalent to /etc/modprobe.d/<module>.conf, which store the hardware
ID, driver info and required initialisation settings. The first time you
connect new hardware Windows probes it and attempts to identify it, then
populates an ENUM entry of the Registry with that data. If the
enumerator gets it wrong, as is often the case, then you're stuck with
hardware that won't work until you clear out the misconfigured ENUM
entry and start again, hopefully with better luck the next time around.
In theory you can manually enter that information, but of course being
Microsoft a lot of it is highly abstract gibberish that few people
except Windows driver developers would understand - not exactly as
simple as editing a plain text <module>.conf file.
It helps to have the correct (i.e. working) Windows driver installed
/before/ you attach new hardware, because doing it the other way around
is one of the main causes of this type of failure, but either way
Windows has the terminal habit of misidentifying and misconfiguring
hardware, so merely having the correct driver is no guarantee the
enumerator won't screw up anyway.
In the case of USB Mass Storage one would assume there'd be little room
for Windows to screw up, since surely all such devices use the same
driver and initialisation settings (that's the whole point of it being a
standard, after all), so if the device is identified as USB Mass Storage
then there should be nothing to do but mount it, assuming Windows
recognises the filesystem (a major problem in its own right, since
Windows has severely limited filesystem support). But apparently Windows
can't even do that right. And yes, like you I'm speaking from experience
- a /lot/ of very bad experiences. Microsoft and standards don't mix.
The thing that really makes me laugh is how Windows thinks the same USB
device plugged into a different USB port is somehow "new hardware", and
it sets off creating a new ENUM entry for it. Therein lies the source of
more problems, and perhaps a clue as to why Windows screws up so often
enumerating and initialising hardware in the first place.
http://www.wikihow.com/Clear-the-Record-of-USB-Plug-in-Equipment
--
K. | "You see? You cannot kill me. There is no flesh
http://slated.org | and blood within this cloak to kill. There is
Fedora 8 (Werewolf) on šky | only an idea. And ideas are bulletproof."
kernel 2.6.31.5, up 26 days | ~ V for Vendetta.
>
> AHA! So the problem is likely a port or the USB subsystem on the first
> Windummie machine. So I whip out a linux live CD, boot the suspect
> machine, plug the thumb drive in and mount it. Then I copy the file
> AHA! So the problem is likely a port or the USB subsystem on the first
> Windummie machine. So I whip out a linux live CD, boot the suspect
> to the machine. No sweat.
Windows' hardware enumeration is diabolically crap, USB especially so.
There are "ENUM" sections in the dreaded Registry that are roughly
equivalent to /etc/modprobe.d/<module>.conf, which store the hardware
ID, driver info and required initialisation settings. The first time you
connect new hardware Windows probes it and attempts to identify it, then
populates an ENUM entry of the Registry with that data. If the
enumerator gets it wrong, as is often the case, then you're stuck with
hardware that won't work until you clear out the misconfigured ENUM
entry and start again, hopefully with better luck the next time around.
In theory you can manually enter that information, but of course being
Microsoft a lot of it is highly abstract gibberish that few people
except Windows driver developers would understand - not exactly as
simple as editing a plain text <module>.conf file.
It helps to have the correct (i.e. working) Windows driver installed
/before/ you attach new hardware, because doing it the other way around
is one of the main causes of this type of failure, but either way
Windows has the terminal habit of misidentifying and misconfiguring
hardware, so merely having the correct driver is no guarantee the
enumerator won't screw up anyway.
In the case of USB Mass Storage one would assume there'd be little room
for Windows to screw up, since surely all such devices use the same
driver and initialisation settings (that's the whole point of it being a
standard, after all), so if the device is identified as USB Mass Storage
then there should be nothing to do but mount it, assuming Windows
recognises the filesystem (a major problem in its own right, since
Windows has severely limited filesystem support). But apparently Windows
can't even do that right. And yes, like you I'm speaking from experience
- a /lot/ of very bad experiences. Microsoft and standards don't mix.
The thing that really makes me laugh is how Windows thinks the same USB
device plugged into a different USB port is somehow "new hardware", and
it sets off creating a new ENUM entry for it. Therein lies the source of
more problems, and perhaps a clue as to why Windows screws up so often
enumerating and initialising hardware in the first place.
http://www.wikihow.com/Clear-the-Record-of-USB-Plug-in-Equipment
--
K. | "You see? You cannot kill me. There is no flesh
http://slated.org | and blood within this cloak to kill. There is
Fedora 8 (Werewolf) on šky | only an idea. And ideas are bulletproof."
kernel 2.6.31.5, up 26 days | ~ V for Vendetta.
Bob Hauck
Nov 18, 2012, 12:05:36 PM11/18/12
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On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:59:04 -0500, Ezekiel <ze...@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
> "Sinister Midget" <fardb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:25vkn9-...@czakl.harry.net...
>
>
>> Yesterday I needed to move a file I had on my linux drive to a
>> Windummie machine at work. A /specific/ Windummie machine.
>>
>> I copy the file to a plain Jane Lexar thumb drive,
>> then move the drive to Windoze.
>>
>>
>> I move the drive to another machine...I do the same
>> on a third machine.
>>
>> ...on the first Windummie machine. ...I boot the machine
>> I take the thumb drive to another machine, and copy the same file
>> I then go back to the linux machine... take it to the failing machine
>
>
> I see that this technology called a "network" hasn't found it's way to your
> village yet.
>
> Most people no longer do the equivalent of "sneaker-net" these days. They
> say this "network" thing is going to be big some day. Who knows.
Where I work they keep the engineering test networks separate from the
> "Sinister Midget" <fardb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:25vkn9-...@czakl.harry.net...
>
>
>> Yesterday I needed to move a file I had on my linux drive to a
>> Windummie machine at work. A /specific/ Windummie machine.
>>
>> I copy the file to a plain Jane Lexar thumb drive,
>> then move the drive to Windoze.
>>
>>
>> I move the drive to another machine...I do the same
>> on a third machine.
>>
>> ...on the first Windummie machine. ...I boot the machine
>> I take the thumb drive to another machine, and copy the same file
>> I then go back to the linux machine... take it to the failing machine
>
>
> I see that this technology called a "network" hasn't found it's way to your
> village yet.
>
> Most people no longer do the equivalent of "sneaker-net" these days. They
> say this "network" thing is going to be big some day. Who knows.
main one. There are also places the network does not go, like out in the
parking lot. It is kind of hard to see satellites from inside the
building so sometimes we go outside to do tests.
You mist live in a very neat and tidy cocoon like most IT people appear
to do.
--
Bob Hauck
Tattoo Vampire
Nov 18, 2012, 1:24:54 PM11/18/12
to
Snit wrote:
> When I noted that about one of my stalkers I was told by, well, another
> of my stalkers that this means I was sexually harassing the first
> stalker. Insane. Seems I collect stalkers on Usenet. I wish they would
> all go away.
Usenet wishes you would go away. :-P
> When I noted that about one of my stalkers I was told by, well, another
> of my stalkers that this means I was sexually harassing the first
> stalker. Insane. Seems I collect stalkers on Usenet. I wish they would
> all go away.
Gordonbp
Nov 18, 2012, 3:36:43 PM11/18/12
to
On 18/11/12 16:39, Homer wrote:
>
> In the case of USB Mass Storage one would assume there'd be little room
> for Windows to screw up, since surely all such devices use the same
> driver and initialisation settings (that's the whole point of it being a
> standard, after all), so if the device is identified as USB Mass Storage
> then there should be nothing to do but mount it, assuming Windows
> recognises the filesystem (a major problem in its own right, since
> Windows has severely limited filesystem support). But apparently Windows
> can't even do that right.
Windows can't use a "standard" setting for USB devices, because why
>
> In the case of USB Mass Storage one would assume there'd be little room
> for Windows to screw up, since surely all such devices use the same
> driver and initialisation settings (that's the whole point of it being a
> standard, after all), so if the device is identified as USB Mass Storage
> then there should be nothing to do but mount it, assuming Windows
> recognises the filesystem (a major problem in its own right, since
> Windows has severely limited filesystem support). But apparently Windows
> can't even do that right.
would it come up with the "installing drivers" message when inserting a
4GB thumb drive in the same port that an 8GB thumbdrive was inserted
into previously?
--
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Reg'd Ubuntu User 30183 http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net/index.php
I only accept odf or pdf documents by email
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Henk & Ingrid
Nov 18, 2012, 4:05:26 PM11/18/12
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Sinister Midget
Nov 18, 2012, 4:03:00 PM11/18/12
to
On 2012-11-18, Bob Hauck <postm...@avalanche.org> claimed:
Where I work no machine not specifically blessed is allowed to connect
to the domain. Period. I can make my linux machine (the place where
the file was stored, don't forget) connect through the wireless network
and access the internet. But I can't touch the domain or any machine
on it without sending the machine downtown and waiting for them to do
their magic incantation to make it acceptable. (It being a linux
machine, and them being stupid, guarantees it will never be
accomlished, and I may never see my linux machine again.)
> You mist live in a very neat and tidy cocoon like most IT people appear
> to do.
EZKill thinks he's cute. Most narcissists do. Like Doofus and Quirk, to
name just a couple.
--
Beware of Geeks bearing gifs.
to the domain. Period. I can make my linux machine (the place where
the file was stored, don't forget) connect through the wireless network
and access the internet. But I can't touch the domain or any machine
on it without sending the machine downtown and waiting for them to do
their magic incantation to make it acceptable. (It being a linux
machine, and them being stupid, guarantees it will never be
accomlished, and I may never see my linux machine again.)
> You mist live in a very neat and tidy cocoon like most IT people appear
> to do.
name just a couple.
--
Beware of Geeks bearing gifs.
Bjørn Steensrud
Nov 19, 2012, 3:20:38 AM11/19/12
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Sinister Midget wrote:
> On 2012-11-18, Bob Hauck <postm...@avalanche.org> claimed:
>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:59:04 -0500, Ezekiel <ze...@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
>
>>> I see that this technology called a "network" hasn't found it's way to
>>> your village yet.
>>>
>>> Most people no longer do the equivalent of "sneaker-net" these days.
>>> They say this "network" thing is going to be big some day. Who knows.
>>
>> Where I work they keep the engineering test networks separate from the
>> main one. There are also places the network does not go, like out in the
>> parking lot. It is kind of hard to see satellites from inside the
>> building so sometimes we go outside to do tests.
>
> Where I work no machine not specifically blessed is allowed to connect
> to the domain. Period. I can make my linux machine (the place where
> the file was stored, don't forget) connect through the wireless network
> and access the internet. But I can't touch the domain or any machine
> on it without sending the machine downtown and waiting for them to do
> their magic incantation to make it acceptable. (It being a linux
> machine, and them being stupid, guarantees it will never be
> accomlished, and I may never see my linux machine again.)
Would never happen where I worked. If I had attached my laptop to the
> On 2012-11-18, Bob Hauck <postm...@avalanche.org> claimed:
>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:59:04 -0500, Ezekiel <ze...@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
>
>>> I see that this technology called a "network" hasn't found it's way to
>>> your village yet.
>>>
>>> Most people no longer do the equivalent of "sneaker-net" these days.
>>> They say this "network" thing is going to be big some day. Who knows.
>>
>> Where I work they keep the engineering test networks separate from the
>> main one. There are also places the network does not go, like out in the
>> parking lot. It is kind of hard to see satellites from inside the
>> building so sometimes we go outside to do tests.
>
> Where I work no machine not specifically blessed is allowed to connect
> to the domain. Period. I can make my linux machine (the place where
> the file was stored, don't forget) connect through the wireless network
> and access the internet. But I can't touch the domain or any machine
> on it without sending the machine downtown and waiting for them to do
> their magic incantation to make it acceptable. (It being a linux
> machine, and them being stupid, guarantees it will never be
> accomlished, and I may never see my linux machine again.)
domain, I would have been escorted out of the building by armed guards.
Said escort happened to a colleague who was just trying to help another, but
that's a different story.
Otoh it was a Linux-friendly place, some had a plush Tux sitting on their
monitors :-)
Sinister Midget
Nov 19, 2012, 5:35:15 AM11/19/12
to
On 2012-11-19, Bjørn Steensrud <bjo...@skogkatt.homelinux.org> claimed:
know that because the MCSEs say it's so. The AP I can connect onto
goes directly onto their "ultra secure" network. It's easy peasy,
because it's wide open. That's "ultra secure" in Windummie-speak,
evidently.
They're so smart they can't even track down what's connecting to it
either. Unless you name the machine after yourself, which one guy did
(a windummie, of course). They yelled at him about it a lot.
Evidently they were mad that he let them know who he was or something.
But Noboby else has ever heard from them. Because they can't figure
out who they are.
Me, I prefer to rename my machine to variations on the name of the
network administrator (some very unflattering). She's loved a lot.
They know the access point is wide open. When I aksed a guy there why
they don't secure it, he said, "We don't talk about that access point.
At all." Good policy on an "ultra secure" network. Others have gotten
similar responses.
Anyway, they provide free, opt-in internet, so I don't connect to the
wide open one except if the free one is down (which it is now, since
they did the unspeakable and started messing with the wireless without
having any idea at all what it is they're doing), and when I don't have
my own internet hocky puck with me
> Otoh it was a Linux-friendly place, some had a plush Tux sitting on their
> monitors :-)
Just speaking linux around the brilliant MCSEs will result in a violent
outbusrt. Only one guy seems mildly accepting of it. But that's
actually just his personality. He'd appear to be mildly accepting if
you said you were going to ass-rape him or shoot his wife.
--
Conformity obstructs progress.
> Sinister Midget wrote:
>> Where I work no machine not specifically blessed is allowed to connect
>> to the domain. Period. I can make my linux machine (the place where
>> the file was stored, don't forget) connect through the wireless network
>> and access the internet. But I can't touch the domain or any machine
>> on it without sending the machine downtown and waiting for them to do
>> their magic incantation to make it acceptable. (It being a linux
>> machine, and them being stupid, guarantees it will never be
>> accomlished, and I may never see my linux machine again.)
>
> Would never happen where I worked. If I had attached my laptop to the
> domain, I would have been escorted out of the building by armed guards.
> Said escort happened to a colleague who was just trying to help another, but
> that's a different story.
This is an "ultra-secure" network because of what it does and we do. I
>> Where I work no machine not specifically blessed is allowed to connect
>> to the domain. Period. I can make my linux machine (the place where
>> the file was stored, don't forget) connect through the wireless network
>> and access the internet. But I can't touch the domain or any machine
>> on it without sending the machine downtown and waiting for them to do
>> their magic incantation to make it acceptable. (It being a linux
>> machine, and them being stupid, guarantees it will never be
>> accomlished, and I may never see my linux machine again.)
>
> Would never happen where I worked. If I had attached my laptop to the
> domain, I would have been escorted out of the building by armed guards.
> Said escort happened to a colleague who was just trying to help another, but
> that's a different story.
know that because the MCSEs say it's so. The AP I can connect onto
goes directly onto their "ultra secure" network. It's easy peasy,
because it's wide open. That's "ultra secure" in Windummie-speak,
evidently.
They're so smart they can't even track down what's connecting to it
either. Unless you name the machine after yourself, which one guy did
(a windummie, of course). They yelled at him about it a lot.
Evidently they were mad that he let them know who he was or something.
But Noboby else has ever heard from them. Because they can't figure
out who they are.
Me, I prefer to rename my machine to variations on the name of the
network administrator (some very unflattering). She's loved a lot.
They know the access point is wide open. When I aksed a guy there why
they don't secure it, he said, "We don't talk about that access point.
At all." Good policy on an "ultra secure" network. Others have gotten
similar responses.
Anyway, they provide free, opt-in internet, so I don't connect to the
wide open one except if the free one is down (which it is now, since
they did the unspeakable and started messing with the wireless without
having any idea at all what it is they're doing), and when I don't have
my own internet hocky puck with me
> Otoh it was a Linux-friendly place, some had a plush Tux sitting on their
> monitors :-)
outbusrt. Only one guy seems mildly accepting of it. But that's
actually just his personality. He'd appear to be mildly accepting if
you said you were going to ass-rape him or shoot his wife.
--
Conformity obstructs progress.
William Poaster
Nov 19, 2012, 6:41:17 AM11/19/12
to
Sinister Midget wrote:
> On 2012-11-19, Bj�rn Steensrud <bjo...@skogkatt.homelinux.org> claimed:
Ah "Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert"s. I know of quite a few
companies who won't employ them, & some of their managers have even
stated as much in some newsgroups. One guy said he had to fire the
idiot, then employ someone to clear up the mess the MCSE had made, &
others seemd to say they'd done similar.
One guy, Phil, said:
"I'm not an MCSE. I'm just a bloody good field engineer who even today
had to advice an MCSE young administrator about some of an NT4-server
load. I was on site to fit six new HDD's and set them up as a new
RAID-5 on a controller I'd never seen before. Ten minutes of reading
the manual for the card was enough to set the RAID up. I stayed on
site just to make sure the H/W was working alright, and ended up
holding this MCSE's hand whilst he just got NT4-Server!! I wouldn't
mind but he's about twenty five years younger than me, and on about
5K more than me, and I have sympathies for his employer if he's ever
really needed to sort out a real problem.... Just what the hell are
these MSCE Boot-Camps turning out these days??"
Another, 'ML' said:
" I see "paper MCP's" all the time, when we're
hiring we set a task on our test network for the applicants, out of 10
applicants that made it to the test network 3 had various
certifications but no experience, 1 of them at least tried, the other
2 just walked out! (the other 7 all tried)
If you check out any of the MCSE, CCNA, etc groups most of them are
only concerned with getting "Troytec" "Cheet Sheets" etc. This is a
real sore point for me, I really put alot of effort into learning as
much as possible and these cheaters are making the MCSE a joke!"
Others suggested these for 'MCSE':
Mouse Clicker Solves Everything
Must Consult Someone Experienced
Moron Confused by Sun Equipment
Minion of the Crappy Software Empire
--
The Internet: where men are men, women are men, and children are FBI
agents.
Scientific-Linux 6.3 64-bit.
> On 2012-11-19, Bj�rn Steensrud <bjo...@skogkatt.homelinux.org> claimed:
companies who won't employ them, & some of their managers have even
stated as much in some newsgroups. One guy said he had to fire the
idiot, then employ someone to clear up the mess the MCSE had made, &
others seemd to say they'd done similar.
One guy, Phil, said:
"I'm not an MCSE. I'm just a bloody good field engineer who even today
had to advice an MCSE young administrator about some of an NT4-server
load. I was on site to fit six new HDD's and set them up as a new
RAID-5 on a controller I'd never seen before. Ten minutes of reading
the manual for the card was enough to set the RAID up. I stayed on
site just to make sure the H/W was working alright, and ended up
holding this MCSE's hand whilst he just got NT4-Server!! I wouldn't
mind but he's about twenty five years younger than me, and on about
5K more than me, and I have sympathies for his employer if he's ever
really needed to sort out a real problem.... Just what the hell are
these MSCE Boot-Camps turning out these days??"
Another, 'ML' said:
" I see "paper MCP's" all the time, when we're
hiring we set a task on our test network for the applicants, out of 10
applicants that made it to the test network 3 had various
certifications but no experience, 1 of them at least tried, the other
2 just walked out! (the other 7 all tried)
If you check out any of the MCSE, CCNA, etc groups most of them are
only concerned with getting "Troytec" "Cheet Sheets" etc. This is a
real sore point for me, I really put alot of effort into learning as
much as possible and these cheaters are making the MCSE a joke!"
Others suggested these for 'MCSE':
Mouse Clicker Solves Everything
Must Consult Someone Experienced
Moron Confused by Sun Equipment
Minion of the Crappy Software Empire
--
The Internet: where men are men, women are men, and children are FBI
agents.
Scientific-Linux 6.3 64-bit.
Chris Ahlstrom
Nov 19, 2012, 7:05:21 AM11/19/12
to
After swilling some grog, William Poaster belched this bit o' wisdom:
> Sinister Midget wrote:
>
>> Just speaking linux around the brilliant MCSEs will result in a violent
>> outbusrt. Only one guy seems mildly accepting of it. But that's
>> actually just his personality. He'd appear to be mildly accepting if
>> you said you were going to ass-rape him or shoot his wife.
>
> Ah "Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert"s. I know of quite a few
> companies who won't employ them, & some of their managers have even
> stated as much in some newsgroups. One guy said he had to fire the
> idiot, then employ someone to clear up the mess the MCSE had made, &
> others seemd to say they'd done similar.
>
> <stories of crap Microsoft certified people snipped>
To be fair, I know a guy who does not use Linux, and yet he managed to
get a Linux+ (IIRC) certification.
Certificates (including the ones I have) don't mean squat.
--
Especially when its simply their misunderstanding anothers point of view
: e.g calling someone like me a "wintroll" because I recognise
weaknesses in Linux/OSS despite using it and thinking its great.
-- "Hadron", <igcc45$ldk$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
> Sinister Midget wrote:
>
>> Just speaking linux around the brilliant MCSEs will result in a violent
>> outbusrt. Only one guy seems mildly accepting of it. But that's
>> actually just his personality. He'd appear to be mildly accepting if
>> you said you were going to ass-rape him or shoot his wife.
>
> Ah "Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert"s. I know of quite a few
> companies who won't employ them, & some of their managers have even
> stated as much in some newsgroups. One guy said he had to fire the
> idiot, then employ someone to clear up the mess the MCSE had made, &
> others seemd to say they'd done similar.
>
To be fair, I know a guy who does not use Linux, and yet he managed to
get a Linux+ (IIRC) certification.
Certificates (including the ones I have) don't mean squat.
--
Especially when its simply their misunderstanding anothers point of view
: e.g calling someone like me a "wintroll" because I recognise
weaknesses in Linux/OSS despite using it and thinking its great.
-- "Hadron", <igcc45$ldk$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
chrisv
Nov 19, 2012, 8:39:58 AM11/19/12
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> Hadron wrote:
>>
>> Are you really such a dick that you think usb sticks dont work with
>> Windows?
Yeah. That's that's what he thinks. That "usb sticks dont work with
>>
>> Are you really such a dick that you think usb sticks dont work with
>> Windows?
Windows".
You are such a shameless jackass, and such a dick, Larry.
--
"I am anti COLA posters in general. Most of the people here do
*nothing* except moan about windows and slag off Bill Gates. Why?
because they are twits." - "True Linux advocate" Hadron Quark
-hh
Nov 19, 2012, 8:48:05 AM11/19/12
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On Nov 18, 11:40 am, Homer <use...@slated.org> wrote:
> Verily I say unto thee that Sinister Midget spake thusly:
>
>
>
> > AHA! So the problem is likely a port or the USB subsystem on the first
> > Windummie machine. So I whip out a linux live CD, boot the suspect
> > machine, plug the thumb drive in and mount it. Then I copy the file
> > to the machine. No sweat.
>
> Windows' hardware enumeration is diabolically crap, USB especially so.
USB sucks as a standard, and Windows has historically bore the brunt
> Verily I say unto thee that Sinister Midget spake thusly:
>
>
>
> > AHA! So the problem is likely a port or the USB subsystem on the first
> > Windummie machine. So I whip out a linux live CD, boot the suspect
> > machine, plug the thumb drive in and mount it. Then I copy the file
> > to the machine. No sweat.
>
> Windows' hardware enumeration is diabolically crap, USB especially so.
of it.
> In the case of USB Mass Storage one would assume there'd be little room
> for Windows to screw up, since surely all such devices use the same
> driver and initialisation settings (that's the whole point of it being a
> standard, after all), so if the device is identified as USB Mass Storage
> then there should be nothing to do but mount it, assuming Windows
> recognises the filesystem (a major problem in its own right, since
> Windows has severely limited filesystem support). But apparently Windows
> can't even do that right. And yes, like you I'm speaking from experience
> - a /lot/ of very bad experiences. Microsoft and standards don't mix.
originally set up: what appears to the layman to be a "Plain Jane"
mass storage device isn't necessarily so: for quite awhile, each
manufacturer had their own little tweaks that made them not-quite-
standard.
Add to that some of the autoboot software applications that some USB
manufacturers were including on their sticks ... including some that
require specific "DELETE" software from the manufacturer (they're
protected from erasure even when reformatting) ... and the security
shortcomings of Windows become all the more evident.
But this doesn't really matter too much because few, if any, OSs do
well after they've been somehow corrupted, which is simply all that
happened here...
...even though SM wasn't able to easily diagnose the root cause as a
corrupted system, despite all of his allegedly superior "IT skills".
-hh
GreyCloud
Nov 19, 2012, 1:40:52 PM11/19/12
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On 11/19/12 06:39, chrisv wrote:
>> Hadron wrote:
>>>
>>> Are you really such a dick that you think usb sticks dont work with
>>> Windows?
>
> Yeah. That's that's what he thinks. That "usb sticks dont work with
> Windows".
>
> You are such a shameless jackass, and such a dick, Larry.
>
IDIOT!
>> Hadron wrote:
>>>
>>> Are you really such a dick that you think usb sticks dont work with
>>> Windows?
>
> Yeah. That's that's what he thinks. That "usb sticks dont work with
> Windows".
>
> You are such a shameless jackass, and such a dick, Larry.
>
GreyCloud
Nov 19, 2012, 1:41:37 PM11/19/12
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On 11/19/12 05:05, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> After swilling some grog, William Poaster belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> Sinister Midget wrote:
>>
>>> Just speaking linux around the brilliant MCSEs will result in a violent
>>> outbusrt. Only one guy seems mildly accepting of it. But that's
>>> actually just his personality. He'd appear to be mildly accepting if
>>> you said you were going to ass-rape him or shoot his wife.
>>
>> Ah "Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert"s. I know of quite a few
>> companies who won't employ them,& some of their managers have even
> After swilling some grog, William Poaster belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> Sinister Midget wrote:
>>
>>> Just speaking linux around the brilliant MCSEs will result in a violent
>>> outbusrt. Only one guy seems mildly accepting of it. But that's
>>> actually just his personality. He'd appear to be mildly accepting if
>>> you said you were going to ass-rape him or shoot his wife.
>>
>> Ah "Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert"s. I know of quite a few
>> stated as much in some newsgroups. One guy said he had to fire the
>> idiot, then employ someone to clear up the mess the MCSE had made,&
>> others seemd to say they'd done similar.
>>
>> <stories of crap Microsoft certified people snipped>
>
> To be fair, I know a guy who does not use Linux, and yet he managed to
> get a Linux+ (IIRC) certification.
>
> Certificates (including the ones I have) don't mean squat.
>
Still digging thru cracker jack boxes for your MSCE??
>> idiot, then employ someone to clear up the mess the MCSE had made,&
>> others seemd to say they'd done similar.
>>
>> <stories of crap Microsoft certified people snipped>
>
> To be fair, I know a guy who does not use Linux, and yet he managed to
> get a Linux+ (IIRC) certification.
>
> Certificates (including the ones I have) don't mean squat.
>
JEDIDIAH
Nov 19, 2012, 2:36:29 PM11/19/12
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On 2012-11-17, Ian Hilliard <nos...@nospam.org> wrote:
> On 17/11/12 19:23, Hadron wrote:
>> Sinister Midget <fardb...@gmail.com> writes:
>>
> On 17/11/12 19:23, Hadron wrote:
>> Sinister Midget <fardb...@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Yesterday I needed to move a file I had on my linux drive to a
>>> Windummie machine at work. A /specific/ Windummie machine.
>>>
>>> I copy the file to a plain Jane Lexar thumb drive, then move the drive
>>> Windummie machine at work. A /specific/ Windummie machine.
>>>
>>> I copy the file to a plain Jane Lexar thumb drive, then move the drive
>>> to Windoze. Windross does it's usual popup game: "Yay! Look at me! I
>>> found something! Yay! It's a USB device! Yay! I'm setting it up
>>> now! Yay! Look at me!!"
>>>
>>> Then an error popped up. These aren't the exact words, but they're the
>>> exact meaning. "Windowes has a problem. It's too stupid to recognize
>>> a simple thumb drive. Contact your manufacturer to see if they can
>>> think of a way around Winders' inherent stupidity, because Lord knows
>>> we can't or we would have already done it."
>>
>>
>> meanwhile the rest of the world seems capable of using these drives with
>> windows just fine. You're an idiot.
We only have your word for that.
>>> found something! Yay! It's a USB device! Yay! I'm setting it up
>>> now! Yay! Look at me!!"
>>>
>>> Then an error popped up. These aren't the exact words, but they're the
>>> exact meaning. "Windowes has a problem. It's too stupid to recognize
>>> a simple thumb drive. Contact your manufacturer to see if they can
>>> think of a way around Winders' inherent stupidity, because Lord knows
>>> we can't or we would have already done it."
>>
>>
>> meanwhile the rest of the world seems capable of using these drives with
>> windows just fine. You're an idiot.
Hadron coming to the defense of Microsoft? Imagine that...
>>
>
> Once again we have Hadron hurling abuse, because he has no other
> weapons. The OS that he so vigorously defends is indefensible.
>
> Most people just bitch how bad computers are, because trolls like you
> have conned them into believing that all PC run Windows and therefore
> all computers behave erraticly.
>
> have conned them into believing that all PC run Windows and therefore
> all computers behave erraticly.
>
> At least they did, but along comes Apple and shows that there is a
> better way. This is why Apple are doing so well.
>
> If there were a big company with a big marketing budget behind Linux,
> you fuddsters wouldn't stand a chance.
>
> Most people use Windows because they are either forced to or don't know
> any better. Muttering about how bad the computer and computer system is,
> has become a standard part of office life.
>
> Wollen Sie Windows oder wollen Sie gleich etwas gutes.
>
> Ian
> better way. This is why Apple are doing so well.
>
> If there were a big company with a big marketing budget behind Linux,
> you fuddsters wouldn't stand a chance.
>
> Most people use Windows because they are either forced to or don't know
> any better. Muttering about how bad the computer and computer system is,
> has become a standard part of office life.
>
> Wollen Sie Windows oder wollen Sie gleich etwas gutes.
>
>
>
--
Apple: Because if it's not Quicktime, then it's pirated. |||
/ | \
JEDIDIAH
Nov 19, 2012, 2:39:24 PM11/19/12
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On 2012-11-17, William Poaster <w...@induh-vidual.net> wrote:
><q>
> I "could not install Ubuntu". I had *hellish* problems with it primarily
> because (a) I was new to Linux and (b) It didnt work half the time
> with my HW despite the liars in COLA claiming it worked for me. When I
> learnt more I moved to Debian and big issues with nvidia and SATA
> drives. <uq> Hadron - Message-ID:
><v7oc2uy...@news.eternal-september.org
...that bit always fascinated me. It's not like he got on the bandwagon
early there. I suppose if he were a bleedinge-edge early adopter, he might
have had some problems. Although by the time he started using this as his
standard SATA was prety mundane tech.
Perhaps that was his intention.
Looks terribly silly though when everyone else is scratching their heads
looking at their SATA devices wondering "what is this idiot on?".
[deletia]
> Ian Hilliard wrote:
>
>> On 17/11/12 19:23, Hadron wrote:
>>> Sinister Midget <fardb...@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Yesterday I needed to move a file I had on my linux drive to a
>>>> Windummie machine at work. A /specific/ Windummie machine.
>>>>
>>>> I copy the file to a plain Jane Lexar thumb drive, then move the drive
>>>> to Windoze. Windross does it's usual popup game: "Yay! Look at me! I
>>>> found something! Yay! It's a USB device! Yay! I'm setting it up
>>>> now! Yay! Look at me!!"
>>>>
>>>> Then an error popped up. These aren't the exact words, but they're the
>>>> exact meaning. "Windowes has a problem. It's too stupid to recognize
>>>> a simple thumb drive. Contact your manufacturer to see if they can
>>>> think of a way around Winders' inherent stupidity, because Lord knows
>>>> we can't or we would have already done it."
>>>
>>>
>>> meanwhile the rest of the world seems capable of using these drives with
>>> windows just fine. You're an idiot.
>>>
>
> Oh, the irony!
>
>> On 17/11/12 19:23, Hadron wrote:
>>> Sinister Midget <fardb...@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Yesterday I needed to move a file I had on my linux drive to a
>>>> Windummie machine at work. A /specific/ Windummie machine.
>>>>
>>>> I copy the file to a plain Jane Lexar thumb drive, then move the drive
>>>> to Windoze. Windross does it's usual popup game: "Yay! Look at me! I
>>>> found something! Yay! It's a USB device! Yay! I'm setting it up
>>>> now! Yay! Look at me!!"
>>>>
>>>> Then an error popped up. These aren't the exact words, but they're the
>>>> exact meaning. "Windowes has a problem. It's too stupid to recognize
>>>> a simple thumb drive. Contact your manufacturer to see if they can
>>>> think of a way around Winders' inherent stupidity, because Lord knows
>>>> we can't or we would have already done it."
>>>
>>>
>>> meanwhile the rest of the world seems capable of using these drives with
>>> windows just fine. You're an idiot.
>>>
>
><q>
> I "could not install Ubuntu". I had *hellish* problems with it primarily
> because (a) I was new to Linux and (b) It didnt work half the time
> with my HW despite the liars in COLA claiming it worked for me. When I
> learnt more I moved to Debian and big issues with nvidia and SATA
> drives. <uq> Hadron - Message-ID:
><v7oc2uy...@news.eternal-september.org
...that bit always fascinated me. It's not like he got on the bandwagon
early there. I suppose if he were a bleedinge-edge early adopter, he might
have had some problems. Although by the time he started using this as his
standard SATA was prety mundane tech.
Perhaps that was his intention.
Looks terribly silly though when everyone else is scratching their heads
looking at their SATA devices wondering "what is this idiot on?".
[deletia]
JEDIDIAH
Nov 19, 2012, 2:43:25 PM11/19/12
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On 2012-11-18, Justin <jus...@nobecauseihatespam.edu> wrote:
> On 11/17/2012 12:46 PM, Sinister Midget wrote:
> On 11/17/2012 12:46 PM, Sinister Midget wrote:
>> Yesterday I needed to move a file I had on my linux drive to a
>> Windummie machine at work. A /specific/ Windummie machine.
>>
>> I copy the file to a plain Jane Lexar thumb drive, then move the drive
>> to Windoze. Windross does it's usual popup game: "Yay! Look at me! I
>> found something! Yay! It's a USB device! Yay! I'm setting it up
>> now! Yay! Look at me!!"
>>
>
>> Windummie machine at work. A /specific/ Windummie machine.
>>
>> I copy the file to a plain Jane Lexar thumb drive, then move the drive
>> to Windoze. Windross does it's usual popup game: "Yay! Look at me! I
>> found something! Yay! It's a USB device! Yay! I'm setting it up
>> now! Yay! Look at me!!"
>>
>
> Same thing happened to me when I put an exFAT SD card in a reader
> running Ubuntu.
That would be much like me formating an SD card with ext4.
> running Ubuntu.
Although I can enable exfat on Ubuntu by adding a dev repository.
If you want to really have fun with Windows, just put a non-trivial
partitional table on your thumbdrive or SD card.
William Poaster
Nov 19, 2012, 6:16:33 PM11/19/12
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In 2008 I built a couple of machines with quad core AMD cpus,
nVIDIA GeForce 8200 video cards, & they had a three Western Digital
SATA Caviar drives in them. I installed a couple of different distros
in each machine, (Kubuntu, PCLOS, Mint & Mandriva) & they installed
without a hiccup. I must have been *very* lucky! ;-)
(And because it didn't work for him the trolling Hadron fuckwit also had
the temerity to say I was lying! Yeah, he really *is* that stupid. LOL)
> Perhaps that was his intention.
>
> Looks terribly silly though when everyone else is scratching their heads
> looking at their SATA devices wondering "what is this idiot on?".
--
A Windows user spends 1/3 of his life sleeping, 1/3 working, 1/3
waiting.
Scientific-Linux 6.3 64-bit.
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