Linux hurt by competing desktop environments
George Orwell
_and_gnome_managed_shoot_each_other_dead
People are always claiming that the zillion of different desktop
environments for Linux are a good thing. Except off course, that they
are NOT.
They make it impossible for ISV's to produce good-looking graphical-UI
based commercial software that will work on *all* Linux installations.
Choice and competition are good, but not the amount we see on the Linux
platform. It's leading to duplication of effort whilst not reaching the
sophistication and easy-of-use of commercial offerings.
And Linux audio is still a mess that someone needs to sort out. Same
with printing and software installation.
Il mittente di questo messaggio|The sender address of this
non corrisponde ad un utente |message is not related to a real
reale ma all'indirizzo fittizio|person but to a fake address of an
di un sistema anonimizzatore |anonymous system
Per maggiori informazioni |For more info
https://www.mixmaster.it
High Plains Thumper
> http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/google_chrome_os_or_how_kde_and_gnome_managed_shoot_each_other_dead
Hello, Flatfish.
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HPT
Il mittente di questo messaggio |The sender of this message
corrisponde ad un utente reale |corresponds to a real person
e ad un indirizzo fittizio alle |and to a fictitious address
risposte più posteriori dell' |to hinder idiot answers
idiota Per maggiori informazioni|For more info
http://colatrolls.blogspot.com
Chris Ahlstrom
> http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/google_chrome_os_or_how_kde
> _and_gnome_managed_shoot_each_other_dead
>
> People are always claiming that the zillion of different desktop
> environments for Linux are a good thing. Except off course, that they
> are NOT.
>
> They make it impossible for ISV's to produce good-looking graphical-UI
> based commercial software that will work on *all* Linux installations.
> Choice and competition are good, but not the amount we see on the Linux
> platform. It's leading to duplication of effort whilst not reaching the
> sophistication and easy-of-use of commercial offerings.
>
> And Linux audio is still a mess that someone needs to sort out. Same
> with printing and software installation.
Hello, "Hadron".
--
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Chris Ahlstrom
> Hello, Flatfish.
Who's right?
Certainly not the troll who posted that utter bullshit.
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William Poaster
say:
> High Plains Thumper pulled this Usenet boner:
>
>> Hello, Flatfish.
>
> Who's right?
>
> Certainly not the troll who posted that utter bullshit.
Maybe Hadron & Flatso shared a sewer. :-)
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chrisv
>High Plains Thumper pulled this Usenet boner:
>
>> Hello, Flatfish.
>
>Who's right?
>
>Certainly not the troll who posted that utter bullshit.
You guys don't filter the dizum nyms?
Chris Ahlstrom
I cleaned out the killfile a little, in honor of the trolls'
peace accord.
Although I notice Tim is doing a fine job in "Hadron"'s stead.
The man is almost as nutty as "Hadron", especially about Roy.
And Erik seems to be taking advantage of the relative quiet, to make his
fartings heard.
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Mr. Majestic
> Above the wailing & moaning of the trolls, Chris Ahlstrom was heard to
> say:
>
>> High Plains Thumper pulled this Usenet boner:
>>
>>> Hello, Flatfish.
>> Who's right?
>>
>> Certainly not the troll who posted that utter bullshit.
>
> Maybe Hadron & Flatso shared a sewer. :-)
>
Look at him, he is nothing but a true leg humper. He can't take on
anyone one-on-one. He must always be the pussy and hump someone's leg.
Yes ladies and gentlemen here before you is fabulous Pussy Balls Leg
Humper Filters Dumb Willie Poaster at his best.
JEDIDIAH
>
>
> George Orwell wrote:
>> http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/google_chrome_os_or_how_kde_and_gnome_managed_shoot_each_other_dead
>>
>> People are always claiming that the zillion of different desktop
>> environments for Linux are a good thing. Except off course, that they
>> are NOT.
>>
>> They make it impossible for ISV's to produce good-looking graphical-UI
>> based commercial software that will work on *all* Linux installations.
What's so hard?
Write your app and include the libraries it needs.
This is what they do for Windows.
You could also use Java. Oracle does this in order to target ALL
platforms at the same time. This includes Linux, Windows and Commercial
Unix.
[deletia]
Audio? Printing? Software Installation?
All nonsense FUD.
--
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attempt to distort reality to do so. This is what separates |||
the real butchers from average Joes (or Fritzes) caught up in / | \
events not in their control.
Tim Smith
High Plains Thumper <highplai...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
Oops. CSI:Clovis and CSI:Redneck have come to different conclusions from
the same evidence.
--
--Tim Smith
7
pounding the sock George Orwell wrote on behalf of Half Wits from Micoshaft
Appil Department of Marketing:
> http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/google_chrome_os_or_how_kde
> _and_gnome_managed_shoot_each_other_dead
>
> People are always claiming that the zillion of different desktop
> environments for Linux are a good thing. Except off course, that they
> are NOT.
>
> They make it impossible for ISV's to produce good-looking graphical-UI
> based commercial software that will work on *all* Linux installations.
Well you go produce your own good-looking graphical-UI
based on commercial software that will work on *all* Linux installation
and I'll produce mine based on free as in freedom software.
> Choice and competition are good, but not the amount we see on the Linux
> platform. It's leading to duplication of effort whilst not reaching the
> sophistication and easy-of-use of commercial offerings.
Well you duplicate whatever effort you want and I'll duplicate
whatever I want.
> And Linux audio is still a mess that someone needs to sort out.
Is that an out date lie flatcake? You are way way out of date!!
I haven't had a single audio issue for going 6 years now on EVERY PC
I have installed.
> Same
> with printing and software installation.
True as well. Not a single issue for *ANY* printer either going on
more than 3 years.
You must be out of touch and out of date flatcake.
Go read the Linux Hardware Compatibility List and buy from
vendors that support Linux.
Micoshaft does not write drivers for appil products and neither
does appil write drivers for micoshaft products.
But Linux does, and its a lot superior platform because of it.
Amanda Shithousedoor
news:1228d4352e299ac5...@mixmaster.it...
Hi HPT, Wendy, whatever the HPT turd nymshifted to!
Amanda Shithousedoor
news:4b0d2dfa$0$9753$6e1e...@read.cnntp.org...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
lol !, Notice how stupidly HPT forgot to delete the sig in his nymthieving
activity, so basically he's posting to himself!
George Orwell = a HPT nym!
High Plains Thumper
> High Plains Thumper schreef...
>> George Orwell (Flatfish) wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/google_chrome_os_or_how_kde_and_gnome_managed_shoot_each_other_dead
>>>
>>>
>>> And Linux audio is still a mess that someone needs to sort out.
>>> Same with printing and software installation.
>>>
>>> Il mittente di questo messaggio|The sender address of this
>>> non corrisponde ad un utente |message is not related to a real
>>> reale ma all'indirizzo fittizio|person but to a fake address of
>>> an di un sistema anonimizzatore|anonymous system
>>> Per maggiori informazioni |For more info
>>> https://www.mixmaster.it
>>
>> Hello, Flatfish.
>>
>> corrisponde ad un utente reale |corresponds to a real person
>> e ad un indirizzo fittizio alle |and to a fictitious address
>> risposte più posteriori dell' |to hinder idiot answers
>> idiota Per maggiori informazioni|For more info
>> http://colatrolls.blogspot.com
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
that Flatfish is a comical idiot, who for the past decade has hounded
advocates, blaming them of homophobic libellous gender changing,
accusing them of the very dirty deeds that characterise Flatfish's modus
operandi. I put that little ditty together, to mock anonymising
remailer trolls like you. And you would blame me?
http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/2009/10/john-fuhrer.html
http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/2009/06/hans-lister.html
http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/2007/09/clogwog-troll.html
http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/2008/01/moshe-goldfarb-troll.html
http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/2008/11/sandeep-kumar.html
http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/2008/12/gary-m-stewart.html
http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/2009/02/doctor-smith.html
http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/2007/01/flatfish-troll.html
What a luser.
--
HPT
High Plains Thumper
> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>>> Hello, Flatfish.
>>
>> Who's right? Certainly not the troll who posted that utter
>> bullshit.
>
> You guys don't filter the dizum nyms?
Thunderbird has a simple filter. One is limited to filtering on "from",
"subject", "date", but not "message ID" or abuse field.
However, in a way it has been a blessing. New nymshifts show up right away.
--
HPT
Amanda Shithousedoor
news:hem3l8$mh4$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> Amanda Shithousedoor (Flatish) wrote:
>> High Plains Thumper schreef...
>>> George Orwell (Flatfish) wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/google_chrome_os_or_how_kde_and_gnome_managed_shoot_each_other_dead
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And Linux audio is still a mess that someone needs to sort out.
>>>> Same with printing and software installation.
>>>>
>>>> Il mittente di questo messaggio|The sender address of this
>>>> non corrisponde ad un utente |message is not related to a real
>>>> reale ma all'indirizzo fittizio|person but to a fake address of
>>>> an di un sistema anonimizzatore|anonymous system
>>>> Per maggiori informazioni |For more info
>>>> https://www.mixmaster.it
>>>
>>> Hello, Flatfish.
>>>
>>> Il mittente di questo messaggio |The sender of this message
>>> corrisponde ad un utente reale |corresponds to a real person
>>> e ad un indirizzo fittizio alle |and to a fictitious address
>>> risposte più posteriori dell' |to hinder idiot answers
>>> idiota Per maggiori informazioni|For more info
>>> http://colatrolls.blogspot.com
>>
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>> lol !, Notice how stupidly [snip]
>
> that Flatfish is a comical idiot, who for the past decade has hounded
> advocates, blaming them of homophobic libellous gender changing,
It was you who wrote: "One time I told one rider, the reason why he needed a
bigger motorcycle was to make up for a *small* *dick* , when he criticised
*mine* .
Nice selfnuke George!
Did it hurt when he criticised your dick. What were you doing showing it to
him?
William Poaster
Yup. IMO it limits the trolls who nymshift in an attempt
to avoid filters, to an ever decreasing choice from where to post.
nym.alias.net
dizum.com
zig-zag.net
Frell Anonymous Remailer
nym.alias.net
news.alt.net
x-privat.org
news.bananasplit.info
mail2news.nymu.eu
mixmaster.it
smtp.cobalt.loc
And many others are all in the file. :-)
Tim Smith
High Plains Thumper <h...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Thunderbird has a simple filter. One is limited to filtering on "from",
> "subject", "date", but not "message ID" or abuse field.
Put an enhancement request in their bug tracker. Thunderbird is pretty
poorly designed internally, but adding support for more header fields
for filtering should be easy.
--
--Tim Smith
High Plains Thumper
> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>
>> Thunderbird has a simple filter. One is limited to filtering on
>> "from", "subject", "date", but not "message ID" or abuse field.
>
> Put an enhancement request in their bug tracker. Thunderbird is
> pretty poorly designed internally, but adding support for more header
> fields for filtering should be easy.
Poorly designed internally? FUD. Much better product than Outlook
Express will ever be, with provision and much support with many plug-ins.
--
HPT
Tim Smith
High Plains Thumper <h...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> > pretty poorly designed internally, but adding support for more header
> > fields for filtering should be easy.
>
> Poorly designed internally? FUD. Much better product than Outlook
> Express will ever be, with provision and much support with many plug-ins.
What does Outlook Express have to do with the internal design of
Thunderbird? I base my opinion on watching discussion in their Bugzilla
on how to fix a bug that I reported years ago (and that others had
reported years before I found it).
--
--Tim Smith
Snit
reply_in_group-3B4...@news.supernews.com on 11/26/09 3:07 PM:
HPT was just trying to change the topic. He loathes talking about Linux and
OSS and prefers to just make silly accusations.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
High Plains Thumper
> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>>
>>> Put an enhancement request in their bug tracker. Thunderbird is
>>> pretty poorly designed internally, but adding support for more header
>>> fields for filtering should be easy.
>>
>> Poorly designed internally? FUD. Much better product than Outlook
>> Express will ever be, with provision and much support with many plug-ins.
>
> What does Outlook Express have to do with the internal design of
> Thunderbird? I base my opinion on watching discussion in their Bugzilla
> on how to fix a bug that I reported years ago (and that others had
> reported years before I found it).
Where's your proof, Tim, that Thunderbird is poorly designed internally?
The topic is about desktops, and Outlook Express is a competing product.
Frankly, I find Mozilla a superior product. Yet you state the design is
inferior. How so? Or is this your lame attempt add spreading your
poisonous FUD, which seems so obviously so.
--
HPT
High Plains Thumper
> HPT was just trying to change the topic. He loathes talking about
> Linux and OSS and prefers to just make silly accusations.
62- Liam Slider (cola): "Maybe he's responding to the fact you've been
an annoying little f**kwit lately. You started out with the pretense
of trying to be fair, but lately all there is from you in COLA is
trashtalk about Linux and you acting every bit the troll." 16 Jul
2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/ad7d6c42c5e4cf2f
Snit: "And, yes, I know the facts will go over your head. You are an
insane moron... and you have nothing of value to say. Here: you will
prove it with your response and I will merely note you did so. 100%
predictable."
cc: "What facts? The fact that you don't know what a hypothetical
situation is? The fact that you can't answer any questions? The fact
that you continue to run away when faced with simple questions? I am
100% predictable to you because you simply cannot understand what has
been placed in front of you. It's all just a jumble of words to your
pea-sized brain, and therefore it always looks the same." 15 Nov 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/f6ce4429806e9de6
--
HPT
Marti van Lin
> On 2009-11-25, High Plains Thumper <highplai...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> George Orwell wrote:
>>> http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/google_chrome_os_or_how_kde_and_gnome_managed_shoot_each_other_dead
>>>
>>> People are always claiming that the zillion of different desktop
>>> environments for Linux are a good thing. Except off course, that they
>>> are NOT.
>>>
>>> They make it impossible for ISV's to produce good-looking graphical-UI
>>> based commercial software that will work on *all* Linux installations.
>
> What's so hard?
>
> Write your app and include the libraries it needs.
>
> This is what they do for Windows.
>
> You could also use Java. Oracle does this in order to target ALL
> platforms at the same time. This includes Linux, Windows and Commercial
> Unix.
The no longer existent "in-consequence" has been addressed quite some
time ago and has been discussed over and over again. It is very easy to
make QT app look like GTK apps and visa versa.
There are two packages available for that purpose and it's only a matter
of installing them and using them in the theme managers. Problem solved!
Schreenshots (to prove this) where posted occasionally.
>
> [deletia]
>
> Audio? Printing? Software Installation?
>
> All nonsense FUD.
Indeed pathetic :-)
Cheers
--
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|_|_|0| http://ml2mst.googlepages.com
|0|0|0| http://osgeex.blogspot.com
Amanda Shithousedoor
> Tim Smith wrote:
>> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>>> Tim Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>> Put an enhancement request in their bug tracker. Thunderbird is
>>>> pretty poorly designed internally, but adding support for more header
>>>> fields for filtering should be easy.
>>>
>>> Poorly designed internally? FUD. Much better product than Outlook
>>> Express will ever be, with provision and much support with many
>>> plug-ins.
>>
>> What does Outlook Express have to do with the internal design of
>> Thunderbird? I base my opinion on watching discussion in their Bugzilla
>> on how to fix a bug that I reported years ago (and that others had
>> reported years before I found it).
>
> Where's your proof, Tim, that Thunderbird is poorly designed internally?
> The topic is about desktops, and Outlook Express is a competing product.
Is there an Outlook Express version for Linux, to compete with Thunderbird?
Isn't this a Linux advocacy group?
<aside>
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH! You complete and utter dumbfuck cunt.
>
> Frankly, I find Mozilla a superior product.
Nobody gives a flying fuck about your opinion, live with it, George!
> Yet you state the design is
> inferior. How so? Or is this your lame attempt add spreading your
> poisonous FUD, which seems so obviously so.
>
Nice selfnuke though!
Snit
fe8cd920-94a6-4a58...@w19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com on
11/27/09 3:05 AM:
Your killfilter broke... but you still are not able to post on topic, just
repeat the same off-topic BS as before... the very thing you called a "luser
strategy". Come on, HPT, can't you be *anything* other than a "luser"?
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
Tim Smith
High Plains Thumper <h...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> > High Plains Thumper wrote:
> >> Tim Smith wrote:
> >>
> >>> Put an enhancement request in their bug tracker. Thunderbird is
> >>> pretty poorly designed internally, but adding support for more header
> >>> fields for filtering should be easy.
> >>
> >> Poorly designed internally? FUD. Much better product than Outlook
> >> Express will ever be, with provision and much support with many plug-ins.
> >
> > What does Outlook Express have to do with the internal design of
> > Thunderbird? I base my opinion on watching discussion in their Bugzilla
> > on how to fix a bug that I reported years ago (and that others had
> > reported years before I found it).
>
> Where's your proof, Tim, that Thunderbird is poorly designed internally?
<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41929>
Fixing that bug is a trivial change in a well-designed mail program.
--
--Tim Smith
High Plains Thumper
> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>
>> Where's your proof, Tim, that Thunderbird is poorly designed internally?
>
> <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41929>
>
> Fixing that bug is a trivial change in a well-designed mail program.
Bug 41929 - can't have multiple accounts with same pop/imap server
and username, even if port is different
[quote]
Attempting to create two IMAP accounts for the same host, but with a
different
port, fails silently.
Reproducible: Always
I have an IMAP account (localhost port 143) set up as 'Work'. I use
ssh to
port-forward my home account's port 143 to 1143 on localhost. If I
try to add
another 'Home' IMAP account on localhost, the account is not added
(perhaps
because the host and port are identical?). If I add the account as
'orion',
it's added properly and I can change the port from the advanced
options.
However, access to orion:1143 via ssh forwarding does not work (it
requires
'localhost:1143').
[/quote]
Preferences for the different Linux users are stored in hidden file
~/.mozilla-thunderbird. When a user first opens Thunderbird, creates
an account, creates that hidden files and settings.
Thus, there can be multiple accounts with Thunderbird, each as an
individual user in their own session.
This particular problem is a very small one, I don't know of anyone
who has multiple accounts in the same session (unless of course,
trolls prefer it so they can nymshift - I am being facetious).
So far, it has not been considered a highly desirable fix, seeing that
it is a low priority.
It is just another example of taking a very minor problem and
amplifying it to a greater one.
--
HPT
JEDIDIAH
...I think that if you complained about this to an average Windows
or MacOS user that they would just laugh at you for being an idiot.
--
...as if the ability to run Cubase ever made or broke a platform.
|||
/ | \
Tim Smith
JEDIDIAH <je...@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
> >
> ><https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41929>
> >
> > Fixing that bug is a trivial change in a well-designed mail program.
> >
>
> ...I think that if you complained about this to an average Windows
> or MacOS user that they would just laugh at you for being an idiot.
What exactly does that have to do with the fact that it should be a
trivial fix?
Many people do need that functionality, and there is no good reason
whatsoever to not support it.
--
--Tim Smith
Tim Smith
<e1fee77c-3f93-4c3b...@u7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
High Plains Thumper <highplai...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Preferences for the different Linux users are stored in hidden file
> ~/.mozilla-thunderbird. When a user first opens Thunderbird, creates
> an account, creates that hidden files and settings.
>
> Thus, there can be multiple accounts with Thunderbird, each as an
> individual user in their own session.
>
> This particular problem is a very small one, I don't know of anyone
> who has multiple accounts in the same session (unless of course,
> trolls prefer it so they can nymshift - I am being facetious).
You have no clue what the bug is about, do you? It has nothing to do
with "sessions" or how preferences are stored. It's about using multiple
email servers, which is very common. For example, you might use
Thunderbird to read email from your ISP email account, your gmail
account, your yahoo account, and your work email account.
The bug is that if you have two different mail servers running on the
same host, on different ports, and your account on those two mail
servers has the same name, Thunderbird doesn't allow it.
It's not a preferences problem. The problem is when it is trying to
decide if two email accounts are the same, it checks to see if they have
the same host and the same user name, instead of the correct check: same
host, same user name, *AND* same port.
--
--Tim Smith
Hadron
You have to remember that HPT got a boner when Dumb Willy explained how
he could "filter" things based on "header fields".
HPT is also on record as saying that a big motor bike almost certainly
means a man has a small knob.
A very, very strange man.
Tim Smith
Hadron<hadro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> HPT is also on record as saying that a big motor bike almost certainly
> means a man has a small knob.
I saw a bumper sticker today on a small car that said in big letters
"Nice Truck" and then in smaller letters underneath that "Too bad about
the small penis".
--
--Tim Smith
High Plains Thumper
> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>
>> Preferences for the different Linux users are stored in hidden file
>> ~/.mozilla-thunderbird. When a user first opens Thunderbird, creates
>> an account, creates that hidden files and settings.
>>
>> Thus, there can be multiple accounts with Thunderbird, each as an
>> individual user in their own session.
>>
>> This particular problem is a very small one, I don't know of anyone
>> who has multiple accounts in the same session (unless of course,
>> trolls prefer it so they can nymshift - I am being facetious).
>
> You have no clue what the bug is about, do you? It has nothing to do
> with "sessions" or how preferences are stored. It's about using multiple
> email servers, which is very common. For example, you might use
> Thunderbird to read email from your ISP email account, your gmail
> account, your yahoo account, and your work email account.
No, I understand what it is about and I stated a reason why for most it
is not a problem. I am sorry to hear tha you have finally gone "tits
up", resorting to Snit styled gobshite tactics. These things happen in
Usenet. All you need now are some forged strawman aides. Fortunately
there is still hope for you, as you haven't lowered yourself to Hadron
styled tactics.
--
HPT
Snit
on 11/28/09 8:30 AM:
You did not understand the discussion... and had it explained to you.
Yes... those are the "tactics" I use... and the very ones that clearly piss
you off to no end. You *hate* being shown to be wrong...
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
William Poaster
heard to say:
I was wating for you to say "Yet...".
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seconds!
Hadron
> Tim Smith wrote:
>> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>>
>>> Preferences for the different Linux users are stored in hidden file
>>> ~/.mozilla-thunderbird. When a user first opens Thunderbird, creates
>>> an account, creates that hidden files and settings.
>>>
>>> Thus, there can be multiple accounts with Thunderbird, each as an
>>> individual user in their own session.
>>>
>>> This particular problem is a very small one, I don't know of anyone
>>> who has multiple accounts in the same session (unless of course,
>>> trolls prefer it so they can nymshift - I am being facetious).
>>
>> You have no clue what the bug is about, do you? It has nothing to do
>> with "sessions" or how preferences are stored. It's about using multiple
>> email servers, which is very common. For example, you might use
>> Thunderbird to read email from your ISP email account, your gmail
>> account, your yahoo account, and your work email account.
>
> No, I understand what it is about and I stated a reason why for most it
> is not a problem. I am sorry to hear tha you have finally gone "tits
You stated nothing of relevance.
> up", resorting to Snit styled gobshite tactics. These things happen in
> Usenet. All you need now are some forged strawman aides. Fortunately
> there is still hope for you, as you haven't lowered yourself to Hadron
> styled tactics.
What like quoting acts and knowing what I'm talking about? You're a
an idiot who knows jack about SW.
Do you have ANY idea how clueless you sound?
Snit
9:17 AM:
He knows he is clueless... it is the very reason he lashes out the way he
does. He tries to pull the focus away from himself and his obvious
ignorance and to BS accusations against others.
--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]
High Plains Thumper
> High Plains Thumper was heard:
>> Tim Smith wrote:
>>> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>>>
>>>> This particular problem is a very small one, I don't know of anyone
>>>> who has multiple accounts in the same session (unless of course,
>>>> trolls prefer it so they can nymshift - I am being facetious).
>>>
>>> You have no clue what the bug is about, do you? It has nothing to do
>>> with "sessions" or how preferences are stored. It's about using multiple
>>> email servers, which is very common. For example, you might use
>>> Thunderbird to read email from your ISP email account, your gmail
>>> account, your yahoo account, and your work email account.
>>
>> No, I understand what it is about and I stated a reason why for most it
>> is not a problem. I am sorry to hear tha you have finally gone "tits
>> up", resorting to Snit styled gobshite tactics. These things happen in
>> Usenet. All you need now are some forged strawman aides. Fortunately
>> there is still hope for you, as you haven't lowered yourself to Hadron
>> styled tactics.
>
Reason why I didn't say "yet", is that is the next evolutionary step in
Windroid evolution. It is extremely difficult to stoop to the
diminutive atomic Hadron level. For an increase in intelligence, a
lobotomy would be an improvement, to say the least.
I think Snit has already achieved that luserdom level. He has already
attained to luserdom perfection as demonstrated by his complete
reguritating the same moronic rant drivel over and over, copy and pasted
to perfection on a Macbook in less than 5 minutes over a dozen times,
real proof of a successful lobotomy.
One only need to wipe the slobber drivel off his mouth with a nappy.
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HPT
Snit
11/28/09 9:30 AM:
> I think Snit has already achieved that luserdom level. He has already
> attained to luserdom perfection as demonstrated by his complete
> reguritating the same moronic rant drivel over and over, copy and pasted
> to perfection on a Macbook in less than 5 minutes over a dozen times,
> real proof of a successful lobotomy.
Poor HPT... cannot stand that his lies are repeatedly pointed out. Here they
are again:
� � Also, Snit has falsified data in his videos.
� � Looks like you resized the dialogue box
� � You moved and dragged the task bar, aligned
� � vertical with the side of the screen.
� � I just told you a personal observation that YOU
� � ALTERED THAT SLIDE!
� � Snit again altered that data!
� � Altered video wizardry? �There is nothing wrong with
� � Ubuntu copy and paste.
� � No, rather it is another example of Snit moving the
� � goal posts, creating problems that do not exist except
� � for an invention of his own mind.
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High Plains Thumper
> High Plains Thumper stated:
>
>> I think Snit has already achieved that luserdom level. He has
>> already attained to luserdom perfection as demonstrated by his
>> complete reguritating the same moronic rant drivel over and over,
>> copy and pasted to perfection on a Macbook in less than 5 minutes
>> over a dozen times, real proof of a successful lobotomy.
Bingo! Snit always accurately confirms my observations when he posts,
below is further proof of the above statement:
> Poor HPT... cannot stand that his lies are repeatedly pointed out.
> Here they are again:
>
> Also, Snit has falsified data in his videos.
>
> Looks like you resized the dialogue box
>
> You moved and dragged the task bar, aligned vertical with the
> side of the screen.
>
> I just told you a personal observation that YOU ALTERED THAT
> SLIDE!
>
> Snit again altered that data!
>
> Altered video wizardry? There is nothing wrong with Ubuntu copy
> and paste.
>
> No, rather it is another example of Snit moving the goal posts,
> creating problems that do not exist except for an invention of his
> own mind.
Further proof of a successful lobotomy, fully documented in:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/4e0a197b09306808
64- libsnightmare:
Snit: "Who said Bush did not flip flop?"
libsnightmare: "Never said that. I put back in what you cut out. He
never flip-flopped on the war, even when it was unpopular, like "Kerry
and all the other libs" did. You're a sore loser who has resorted to
fifth grade tactics. How fucking sad - all this clown has left is to
edit posts and post fake bullshit. You can't debate... so you lie.
Once again, you have proved Steve Carroll right about you. Sad..." 4
May 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/a80c93f80bd6bc3e
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HPT
JEDIDIAH
Many people DO NOT.
That's rather the point. Someone has to go to the trouble of fixing
it and following the process of changing the code. It's not just some
sort of "cowboy process" where a quick hotfix to please one customer to
the deteriment of 100 million can be slammed in willy nilly.
It's pretty darn obscure and weird.
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It's a great paradox. |||
/ | \
Mac users aren't supposed to be capable of organizing their
own files with the Finder or browse the storage on a digital
camera yet they can be expected to track down their own QT
extensions with no real help from Apple.
JEDIDIAH
>
>
> Tim Smith wrote:
>> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>>
>>> Preferences for the different Linux users are stored in hidden file
>>> ~/.mozilla-thunderbird. When a user first opens Thunderbird, creates
>>> an account, creates that hidden files and settings.
>>>
>>> Thus, there can be multiple accounts with Thunderbird, each as an
>>> individual user in their own session.
>>>
>>> This particular problem is a very small one, I don't know of anyone
>>> who has multiple accounts in the same session (unless of course,
>>> trolls prefer it so they can nymshift - I am being facetious).
>>
>> You have no clue what the bug is about, do you? It has nothing to do
>> with "sessions" or how preferences are stored. It's about using multiple
>> email servers, which is very common. For example, you might use
No. It's about having multiple profiles for the SAME ACCOUNT ON
THE SAME SERVER. This isn't about multiple email servers at all.
That's why it's such a big joke.
Undoubtedly the original design didn't account for this. It never
occured to anyone that it would be considered a valid use case.
>> Thunderbird to read email from your ISP email account, your gmail
>> account, your yahoo account, and your work email account.
>
> No, I understand what it is about and I stated a reason why for most it
> is not a problem. I am sorry to hear tha you have finally gone "tits
> up", resorting to Snit styled gobshite tactics. These things happen in
> Usenet. All you need now are some forged strawman aides. Fortunately
> there is still hope for you, as you haven't lowered yourself to Hadron
> styled tactics.
>
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Tommy Troll
wrote:
> Snit wrote:
> > High Plains Thumper stated:
>
> >> I think Snit has already achieved that luserdom level. He has
> >> already attained to luserdom perfection as demonstrated by his
> >> complete reguritating the same moronic rant drivel over and over,
> >> copy and pasted to perfection on a Macbook in less than 5 minutes
> >> over a dozen times, real proof of a successful lobotomy.
>
> Bingo! Snit always accurately confirms my observations when he posts,
> below is further proof of the above statement:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Poor HPT... cannot stand that his lies are repeatedly pointed out.
> > Here they are again:
>
> > Also, Snit has falsified data in his videos.
>
> > Looks like you resized the dialogue box
>
> > You moved and dragged the task bar, aligned vertical with the
> > side of the screen.
>
> > I just told you a personal observation that YOU ALTERED THAT
> > SLIDE!
>
> > Snit again altered that data!
>
> > Altered video wizardry? There is nothing wrong with Ubuntu copy
> > and paste.
>
> > No, rather it is another example of Snit moving the goal posts,
> > creating problems that do not exist except for an invention of his
> > own mind.
>
> Further proof of a successful lobotomy, fully documented in:
>
>
> 64- libsnightmare:
> Snit: "Who said Bush did not flip flop?"
> libsnightmare: "Never said that. I put back in what you cut out. He
> never flip-flopped on the war, even when it was unpopular, like "Kerry
> and all the other libs" did. You're a sore loser who has resorted to
> fifth grade tactics. How fucking sad - all this clown has left is to
> edit posts and post fake bullshit. You can't debate... so you lie.
> Once again, you have proved Steve Carroll right about you. Sad..." 4
> May 2009
>
>
> --
> HPT- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Feeding the Snit monster is a really bad thing. He cannot hurt you,
Why do you continue to give him the satisfaction of pulling your
strings and watching you dance to his twisted, sadistic, song.
Snit
9:58 AM:
> Snit wrote:
>> High Plains Thumper stated:
>>
>>> I think Snit has already achieved that luserdom level. He has
>>> already attained to luserdom perfection as demonstrated by his
>>> complete reguritating the same moronic rant drivel over and over,
>>> copy and pasted to perfection on a Macbook in less than 5 minutes
>>> over a dozen times, real proof of a successful lobotomy.
>
> Bingo! Snit always accurately confirms my observations when he posts,
> below is further proof of the above statement:
You observe I point out your lies... and you have no honest response. Of
course you do not - you are a liar.
>> Poor HPT... cannot stand that his lies are repeatedly pointed out.
>> Here they are again:
>>
>> Also, Snit has falsified data in his videos.
>>
>> Looks like you resized the dialogue box
>>
>> You moved and dragged the task bar, aligned vertical with the
>> side of the screen.
>>
>> I just told you a personal observation that YOU ALTERED THAT
>> SLIDE!
>>
>> Snit again altered that data!
>>
>> Altered video wizardry? There is nothing wrong with Ubuntu copy
>> and paste.
>>
>> No, rather it is another example of Snit moving the goal posts,
>> creating problems that do not exist except for an invention of his
>> own mind.
>
> Further proof of a successful lobotomy,
When faced with your lies, you claim it is proof of a lobotomy.
Lovely. I thought you just had a bottle in front of you. :)
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Snit
937c6e9a-8b3d-4763...@z7g2000vbl.googlegroups.com on 11/28/09
10:09 AM:
I point out HPT's lies - I quote them. His excuse is a lobotomy. Lovely.
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Steve Carroll
Only for Snit. Someday, when he's let out of the asylum, he'll be
looking for a job. After reading a few articles... I was amazed how
much research employers are now doing online before they fill a
position. It's much more in depth than most people realize.
Tim Smith
JEDIDIAH <je...@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
> On 2009-11-27, Tim Smith <reply_i...@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
> >> ...I think that if you complained about this to an average Windows
> >> or MacOS user that they would just laugh at you for being an idiot.
> >
> > What exactly does that have to do with the fact that it should be a
> > trivial fix?
No answer for this part?
> >
> > Many people do need that functionality, and there is no good reason
> > whatsoever to not support it.
> >
>
> Many people DO NOT.
>
> That's rather the point. Someone has to go to the trouble of fixing
> it and following the process of changing the code. It's not just some
> sort of "cowboy process" where a quick hotfix to please one customer to
> the deteriment of 100 million can be slammed in willy nilly.
>
> It's pretty darn obscure and weird.
What makes you think its one customer? It's been separately submitted at
least 23 times, according to their Bugzilla.
And it's not all that obscure. Numerous comments on the bug give
situations where people have run into it. SSH tunneling to provide
access to a non-public server, for instance. Or running two NNTP servers
on the same host to separate public groups and private groups. There are
more situations described in the comments.
The bug's been open for *nine* *years*. Changing the account key from
(user,host) to (user,host,port) should be doable without going cowboy in
that length of time, given a well designed codebase.
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--Tim Smith
Tim Smith
JEDIDIAH <je...@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
> >>> This particular problem is a very small one, I don't know of anyone
> >>> who has multiple accounts in the same session (unless of course,
> >>> trolls prefer it so they can nymshift - I am being facetious).
> >>
> >> You have no clue what the bug is about, do you? It has nothing to do
> >> with "sessions" or how preferences are stored. It's about using multiple
> >> email servers, which is very common. For example, you might use
>
> No. It's about having multiple profiles for the SAME ACCOUNT ON
> THE SAME SERVER. This isn't about multiple email servers at all.
> That's why it's such a big joke.
Wrong. Have you even tried to read the bug report and the discussion?
It is about having different accounts, on different email servers, that
are visible on different ports on the same host.
Example: organization ExampleCom runs a news server on example.com port
119 to allow the public to access ExampleCom's support newsgroups.
ExampleCom also runs a news server on example.com port 1199 for use by
employees to access a set of internal newsgroups.
Example: You have a mail server on your LAN, providing POP3 service on
port 110. You have an ssh tunnel between your mail server and a remote
mail server, tunneling port 1100 on your mail server to the POP3 service
on the remote server. The idea is that people on your LAN can access the
remote POP3 server at port 1100 on your mail server.
The problem is simple. Thunderbird uses (protocol, user, host) as its
primary key for keeping track of servers, when it should use (protocol,
user, host, port). The developers acknowledge this.
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--Tim Smith
High Plains Thumper
> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> 64- libsnightmare:
>> Snit: "Who said Bush did not flip flop?"
>> libsnightmare: "Never said that. I put back in what you cut out. He
>> never flip-flopped on the war, even when it was unpopular, like
>> "Kerry and all the other libs" did. You're a sore loser who has
>> resorted to fifth grade tactics. How fucking sad - all this clown
>> has left is to edit posts and post fake bullshit. You can't
>> debate... so you lie. Once again, you have proved Steve Carroll
>> right about you. Sad..." 4 May 2009
>>
>>
>
> Feeding the Snit monster is a really bad thing. He cannot hurt you,
Yes I am hurting, from all the laughter, LOL!
> Why do you continue to give him the satisfaction of pulling your
> strings and watching you dance to his twisted, sadistic, song.
This:
117-Tim Adams: "I'd kill file you but then I'd miss the fun. you see,
you never cease to amaze me at just how stupid you really are. Why just
the other day I had a great laugh when I saw you, the king of liars (in
this NG anyway) calling somebody else a liar." 13 Nov 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/40c7f9407179ff2a
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HPT
JEDIDIAH
>
>
> In article <slrnhh2lb...@nomad.mishnet>,
> JEDIDIAH <je...@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
>> >>> This particular problem is a very small one, I don't know of anyone
>> >>> who has multiple accounts in the same session (unless of course,
>> >>> trolls prefer it so they can nymshift - I am being facetious).
>> >>
>> >> You have no clue what the bug is about, do you? It has nothing to do
>> >> with "sessions" or how preferences are stored. It's about using multiple
>> >> email servers, which is very common. For example, you might use
>>
>> No. It's about having multiple profiles for the SAME ACCOUNT ON
>> THE SAME SERVER. This isn't about multiple email servers at all.
>> That's why it's such a big joke.
>
> Wrong. Have you even tried to read the bug report and the discussion?
Yes I did. I read the actual bug report.
> It is about having different accounts, on different email servers, that
> are visible on different ports on the same host.
IOW: THE SAME SERVER.
[deletia]
--
Metallica is not worth the ruination of someone |||
who has pirated their music / | \
Hadron
> On 2009-11-28, Tim Smith <reply_i...@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> In article <slrnhh2lb...@nomad.mishnet>,
>> JEDIDIAH <je...@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
>>> >>> This particular problem is a very small one, I don't know of anyone
>>> >>> who has multiple accounts in the same session (unless of course,
>>> >>> trolls prefer it so they can nymshift - I am being facetious).
>>> >>
>>> >> You have no clue what the bug is about, do you? It has nothing to do
>>> >> with "sessions" or how preferences are stored. It's about using multiple
>>> >> email servers, which is very common. For example, you might use
>>>
>>> No. It's about having multiple profiles for the SAME ACCOUNT ON
>>> THE SAME SERVER. This isn't about multiple email servers at all.
>>> That's why it's such a big joke.
>>
>> Wrong. Have you even tried to read the bug report and the discussion?
>
> Yes I did. I read the actual bug report.
I doubt it very, very much. If you did you showed little, if any,
understanding of the issues,
>
>> It is about having different accounts, on different email servers, that
>> are visible on different ports on the same host.
>
> IOW: THE SAME SERVER.
>
> [deletia]
You seem to have totally misunderstood the issue.
Tim Smith
JEDIDIAH <je...@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
> >> No. It's about having multiple profiles for the SAME ACCOUNT ON
> >> THE SAME SERVER. This isn't about multiple email servers at all.
> >> That's why it's such a big joke.
> >
> > Wrong. Have you even tried to read the bug report and the discussion?
>
> Yes I did. I read the actual bug report.
When I say "read" I mean more than move your eyes over the page in a
general drift downward.
>
> > It is about having different accounts, on different email servers, that
> > are visible on different ports on the same host.
>
> IOW: THE SAME SERVER.
>
> [deletia]
But not the "SAME ACCOUNT ON THE SAME SERVER".
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--Tim Smith