Please help me surf porn with Linux Mint
RayLopez99
On modern hardware running Windows 7 I installed VMWare, latest
version.
Then I installed Linux Mint Ubuntu (latest version, from an Indonesian
mirror), since it supposedly has the most apps preloaded.The
installation went OK and I played around in the desktop, even reading
a user's manual in a PDF viewer (not Adobe's).
I found Firefox in the "Favorites" section (it was version 4.0 rather
than 6.0, but no big deal I assume).
I started Firefox, it worked. I did not bother changing the root user
(in other words, I'm using the default 'mint' as user, and blank as
password)
I surfed to a static html web page and a .PHP web page and it worked
fine. So far so good.
I then went to a generic, safe, web porn site that seldom fails to
arouse me, nor do I ever catch any virus when surfing under Windows,
called the porn hub (one word).
I clicked on a porn star Rebecca Linares video. I got a "Adobe Flash
plug in fails to load " (something like that) [OK it says: 'the Adobe
flash plug in has crashed. No report available. Reload the page to try
again.] and a frowning face.
I could NOT get out--it froze my entire VMWare screen that was playing
Linux. I killed the screen, rebooted VWWare and tried
'playing' (running, that's their term) Linux Mint, but the system is
frozen with the screenshot showing the error message, as before. The
screen is frozen on the error message (and photos surrounding the
message showing various porn stars, etc).
Questions:
1/ how do I just kill Firefox--what keyboard commands? Mouse is not
working inside of Linux.
2/ do I need a firewall when surfing the net under Linux? Which one
and where for Mint?
3/ Same question for viruses.
PS--VWMare runs Window XP no problem. Why is that? Perhaps XP is
more stable than Linux?
RL
7
> So
So what fool?
You told us you use pirated copies of windowps bought from the
far east. Have you informed the BSA?
Its a poor wanker who blames his tools for firing blanks.
Your sticky fingers are better off fondling a windopws
machine which has to be thoroughly wormed and virused
before the prawns can be served to you.
You just too stupid for words to understand how to
get your prawns. In fact, FYI, going
out the wild internet newsgroups to hunt for
fellow windopwers to get your prawns is just too
unbelievable for words.
You didn't even post your windopws license key
before asking for help. You should post it now
if you really want help. You are that stupid.
TomB
8<
So surfing pr0n is also Real Work™ then?
--
I find television very educating. Every time somebody turns
on the set, I go into the other room and read a book.
~ Groucho Marx
Homer
Fooking prawns!
--
K. | "Everything that should be is working."
http://slated.org | ~ Vostok 1 designer and chief engineer,
Fedora 8 (Werewolf) on šky | Sergei Korolev, to Yuri Gagarin, during
kernel 2.6.31.5, up 89 days | the first manned space mission.
RayLopez99
No shit for brains. Linux is not for Serious Work™.
Keep up with the conversation or I'll have to classify you with Homo
and the insane 7.
And answer my questions, minion.
RL
chris
> So I decided to give Linux yet another chance: big mistake.
>
> On modern hardware running Windows 7 I installed VMWare, latest
> version.
>
> Then I installed Linux Mint Ubuntu (latest version, from an Indonesian
> mirror), since it supposedly has the most apps preloaded.The
> installation went OK and I played around in the desktop, even reading
> a user's manual in a PDF viewer (not Adobe's).
The most apps preloaded? Not really.
> I found Firefox in the "Favorites" section (it was version 4.0 rather
> than 6.0, but no big deal I assume).
Try updating. A fully updated Mint 11 has Firefox 6.
> I started Firefox, it worked. I did not bother changing the root user
> (in other words, I'm using the default 'mint' as user, and blank as
> password)
So you are using the live cd despite earlier installing it... Interesting.
> I surfed to a static html web page and a .PHP web page and it worked
> fine. So far so good.
>
> I then went to a generic, safe, web porn site that seldom fails to
> arouse me, nor do I ever catch any virus when surfing under Windows,
> called the porn hub (one word).
>
> I clicked on a porn star Rebecca Linares video. I got a "Adobe Flash
> plug in fails to load " (something like that) [OK it says: 'the Adobe
> flash plug in has crashed. No report available. Reload the page to try
> again.] and a frowning face.
>
> I could NOT get out--it froze my entire VMWare screen that was playing
> Linux. I killed the screen, rebooted VWWare and tried
> 'playing' (running, that's their term) Linux Mint, but the system is
> frozen with the screenshot showing the error message, as before. The
> screen is frozen on the error message (and photos surrounding the
> message showing various porn stars, etc).
I was not able to reproduce that behaviour.
However, with the old flashplugin in mint (which is actually an old
prerelease since adobe didn't manage to release a final 64 bit flashplugin
yet) the videos wouldn't load.
After I removed the package "mint-flashplugin-square" and installed
flashplugin-nonfree, which uses the kludgy nspluginwrapper to load the 32
bit flashplugin, it loads and plays just fine.
But never did virtualbox nor firefox freeze in my tests.
Maybe vmware on windows or your graphics drivers are buggy?
> Questions:
First my question: Do you really, really want to use flash on Linux? Thanks
to adobe this is slow enaugh already. It is even worse when using it on a
virtualized linux...
> 1/ how do I just kill Firefox--what keyboard commands?
alt+f2, pkill firefox
if it doesn't kill it: pkill -9 firefox
> Mouse is not
> working inside of Linux.
Your ... mouse is not working in your linux in vmware?
> 2/ do I need a firewall when surfing the net under Linux? Which one
> and where for Mint?
For what should you need a firewall? You don't need to block incoming
connections; probably vmware has NAT for guests per default too? They
shouldn't harm you anyway since Ubuntu should have a fairly securely out-of-
the-box setup. You don't really need to block outgoing connections since
there shouldn't be any software on it you don't trust. Well, you probably
don't trust linux, but that's not what I mean. :)
> 3/ Same question for viruses.
When you really get hit by a virus, tell us. That should happen really,
really seldom...
> PS--VWMare runs Window XP no problem. Why is that? Perhaps XP is
> more stable than Linux?
Virtualbox runs Linux Mint without a problem. Why is that? Perhaps it hasn't
anything to do with Windows XP allegedly being more stable?
> RL
Just use your windows to watch porn then, since it is perhaps more stable
and enjoyful?
TomB
> On Aug 20, 6:45 pm, TomB <tommy.bongae...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2011-08-20, the following emerged from the brain of RayLopez99:
>>
>> 8<
>>
>> So surfing pr0n is also Real Work™ then?
>
Oh right, it was Serious Work™. My sincere apologies!
> Keep up with the conversation or I'll have to classify you with Homo
> and the insane 7.
Aye!
> And answer my questions, minion.
What was the question again?
--
I've got more chins than China Town.
~ Weird Al Yancovich
Aragorn
humanity with the following words...:
> RayLopez99 wrote:
>
>> So
>
> So what fool?
This group is called comp.os.linux.setup, not comp.os.linux.advocacy.
Could you please, pretty please, keep your personal vendettas with the
Win-trolls confined to comp.os.linux.advocacy?
Better still, could you pretty please also refrain from crossposting
"GNU/Linux versus Windows" advocacy and "I hate Microsoft" campaings to
any other groups than comp.os.linux.advocacy?
Yes, I hate Microsoft, the company, too, and I don't even use Microsoft
Windows for that matter. But if I want to read filth from either side
of the fence, I'll join comp.os.linux.advocacy - a group which has for
long lost track of its name - (again) myself.
At this stage, I really don't feel a need to join comp.os.linux.advocacy
- nor do I anticipate ever feeling that need again - and there is a
reason as to why many other people aren't subscribed to it either. So
keep your drivel (from either side of the fence) limited to your
favorite troll playground. The rest of us aren't interested in puerile
playground mobbing. Seriously.
Anyone from comp.os.linux.advocacy who crossposts to another group in
which I reside - and there's about 30 of them, 25 of which are related
to GNU/Linux, and the other 5 to generic UNIX - will be added to my
killfile from here on, and I don't give a rat's ass whether they're Win-
trolls or so-called GNU/Linux advocates.
There's a place for this sort of nonsense, and it's called
comp.os.linux.advocacy. So keep the nonsense there, where it belongs,
and have the courtesy of allowing other groups to carry on with their
own business.
(And that includes you, "7", because I've seen you _start_ crossposted
threads between c.o.l.advocacy and other groups. It is called abuse,
and if you're really hoping for some complaints to arrive at your news
provider's abuse address, then by all means, carry on.)
--
Aragorn
(registered GNU/Linux user #223157)
Chris Ahlstrom
Aragorn wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
Well said. Although there are people trying to post sensible material
in COLA.
--
All I kin say is when you finds yo'self wanderin' in a peach orchard,
ya don't go lookin' for rutabagas.
-- Kingfish
7
The OP is a well known troll and has no intention of ever
stop posting net abuse.
Most of these anti-Linux trolls are funded by micoshaft corporation
or appil corporation, faceboook etc. Employees of companies like these
http://www.ntrepidcorp.com/
http://www.burson-marsteller.com/
are known to be the outlets through which internet based
trolling gets initiated. The EU has banned it, and any companies
with offices in EU could get prison sentences and fines
handed out - but not in the USA which is where all the
internet based trolling problems originate from.
In the USA all the funding for trolls is channeled
through abuse of charities which bypasses the need for
accountability and invoices. The US charity regulators
are to blame for allowing money to be channeled through
charities to carry out commercial operations such
as internet trolling for profit through abuse of charity status.
A few wikileaks to open up scrutiny of the funding routes and who's who in
the chain of command could be a starting point.
Stories like this
http://www.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=173964
set a precedent which means every asstroturfer is due for a minimum
$400,000 fine.
Trolling is so ingrained into the every day life of politics
and government in USA, that a clean up act needs political
will before it can ever happen. Here is an example
of how bad and rotten to the core the situation
is in the US:
Asstroturfer offerings
----------------------
I've just read the contents of the fbo.gov solicitation RTB220610
The US government wants asstroturfers and with it sophisticated
asstroturfing technology to drown out democratic free speech,
and then hide from those whom it seeks to victimize.
It was point no.3 that caught my eye:
0003- Static IP Address Management
What that means is the same as what I've been saying for a while about
doofi, flatcake and clog are true.
They are not individuals but a whole asstroturfing team
behind each sock puppet.
There isn't enough memory between the sock operators to know
or remember what had been said earlier so you know the
conversations are being typed out by multiple individuals
impersonating each other.
It was notable gaffs by the goofy doofy sock that first gave it away.
The asstrotufing teams had already gone into government and offered them
consulting services about what technology and asstroturfing
practices were out there for fbo.gov to decide what they will
purchase in solicitation RTB220610.
:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=d88e9d660336be91552fe8c1a51bacb2&tab=core&_cview=1
Solicitation Number: RTB220610
Notice Type: Sources Sought
Synopsis: Added: 2010-06-22 13:42:52Jun 22, 2010 1:42 pm
Modified: 2010-06-22 14:07:11Jun 22, 2010 2:07 pmTrack Changes
0001- Online Persona Management Service.
50 User Licenses, 10 Personas per user. Software will
allow 10 personas per user, replete with background,
history, supporting details, and cyber presences
that are technically, culturally and geographacilly
consistent. Individual applications will enable an
operator to exercise a number of different online
persons from the same workstation and without fear
of being discovered by sophisticated adversaries.
Personas must be able to appear to originate in
nearly any part of the world and can interact through
conventional online services and social media platforms.
The service includes a user friendly application
environment to maximize the user's situational
awareness by displaying real-time local information.
0002- Secure Virtual Private Network (VPN).
1 each VPN provides the ability for users to
daily and automatically obtain
randomly selected IP addresses through
which they can access the internet. The daily
rotation of the user s IP address prevents compromise
during observation of likely or targeted web sites
or services, while hiding the existence of the
operation. In addition, may provide traffic mixing,
blending the user s traffic with traffic from multitudes
of users from outside the organization. This traffic
blending provides excellent cover and powerful deniability.
Anonymizer Enterprise Chameleon or equal
0003- Static IP Address Management.
:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
50 each Licence protects the identity of government
agencies and enterprise organizations. Enables organizations
to manage their persistent online personas by assigning
static IP addresses to each persona. Individuals
can perform static impersonations, which allow
them to look like the same person over time. Also allows
organizations that frequent same site/service often to
easily switch IP addresses to look like ordinary
users as opposed to one organization.
Anonymizer IP Mapper License or equal
:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
0004- Virtual Private Servers,
CONUS. 1 each Provides CONUS or OCONUS points of
presence locations that are setup for each customer
based on the geographic area of operations the
customer is operating within and which allow a
customer?s online persona(s) to appear to originate
from. Ability to provide virtual private servers that
are procured using commercial hosting centers around
the world and which are established anonymously. Once
procured, the geosite is incorporated into the network
and integrated within the customers environment and
ready for use by the customer. Unless specifically
designated as shared, locations are dedicated for use
by each customer and never shared among other customers.
Anonymizer Annual Dedicated CONUS Light Geosite or equal
0005- Virtual Private Servers, OCONUS.
8 Each Provides CONUS or OCONUS points of presence
locations that are setup for each customer based on
the geographic area of operations the customer is
operating within and which allow a customer?s
online persona(s) to appear toWas it related to drug abuse?
originate from. Ability to provide virtual private
servers that are procured using commercial hosting
centers around the world and which are established
anonymously. Once procured, the geosite is incorporated
into the network and integrated within the customers
environment and ready for use by the customer. Unless
specifically designated as shared, locations are dedicated
for use by each customer and never shared among other
customers. Anonymizer Annual Dedicated OCONUS Light ell troll, i
Geosite or equal
0006- Remote Access Secure Virtual Private Network.
1 each Secure Operating Environment provides a reliable
and protected computing environment from which to stage
and conduct operations. Every session uses a clean
Virtual Machine (VM) image. The solution is accessed
through sets of Virtual Private Network (VPN) devices
located at each Customer facility. The fully-managed
VDI (Virtual Desktop Infrastructure) is an environment
that allows users remote access from their desktop into
a VM. Upon session termination, the VM is deleted and
any virus, worm, or malicious software that the user
inadvertently downloaded is destroyed. Anonymizer
Virtual Desktop Infrastructure (VDI) Solution or equal.
Contracting Office Address:
2606 Brown Pelican Ave.
MacDill AFB, Florida 33621-5000
United States
Lets start this troll interrogation again:
Place of Performance:
Performance will be at MacDIll AFB, Kabul, Afghanistan and Baghdad, Iraq.
MacDill AFB , Florida 33679
United States
Primary Point of Contact.:
Russell Beasley,
Contracting Officer
russell.b...@macdill.af.mil
Phone: (813) 828-4729
Fax: (813) 828-5111
Rex Ballard
> So I decided to give Linux yet another chance: big mistake.
> On modern hardware running Windows 7 I installed VMWare, latest
> version.
This is a very good way to try Linux without having to make any significant changes. Did you install VMWare Player or VMWare Workstation? I use VMWare Workstation to create images for my team, so I paid for two licenses, one for Linux and one for Windodws.
http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/cat/508?k=Linux%20Mint
Here is the entry for Linux Mint 11
http://www.vmware.com/appliances/directory/1050113
I downloaded mint11.zip - 939 MB and download speed around 500 KB/second.
Roughly 31 minutes download time estimated.
However the burst rate was up to 995 KB/second.
From previous experience on both Linux and Windows, this speed may have been limited by the storage speed of Windows 7. When using Linux as my base system I get downloads of 1-3 megabytes/second.
The actual download took about 20 minutes, with average download speed of around 800KB/sec.
I used Windows 7 extract all and defaulted to the directory provided.
I ended up getting mint11/Mint11/<files>
I opened the Readme.txt file which provided the passwords for user and root.
Since I already had VMWare installed, I just clicked the Mint.vmx file. Since I had both vmware workstation and player, and use notepad to view the VMX files when I need to edit them manually or locate password information, I right-clicked and used "Open With" and selected VMWare Player.
It took about 10 seconds for Mint to boot.
I started Firefox, which was in the favorites.
I noticed that the VM was prompting me to install the VMWare Tools. Which I know from experience is always a good idea. I just clicked the button provided and it mounted the ISO for the tools as a CD.
They did ask that I launch a terminal and use tar to uncompress the installer then run a command. They forgot to mention that I should do this as root.
I found the terminal app on the start menu.
I had to do use the following commands to see the compressed file:
$ ls /media
floppy floppy0 VMware Tools
$ ls /media/'VMware Tools'
manifest.txt VMwareTools-8.4.6-385536.tar.gz
To extract the tools, I used the tar command as follows:
$ tar xvzf /media/'VMware Tools'/manifest.txt VMwareTools-8.4.6-385536.tar.gz
(bunch of extract messages)
$ cd vmw*
$ sudo ./vmware-install.pl
I accepted all of the defaults and everything went smoothly.
For those who are not familiar with VMWare, the default image is designed to work reasonably well with a variety of different VMWare systems, including Player, Workstation, Server, ESX, and so on. Installing VMware tools optimizes the image for the specific VMWare product being used, as well as leveraging the VMWare interfaces to the optimized Windows drivers.
It's possible that since you did not have the VMware tools installed, which would make video and 3D graphics much more limited.
I pulled up package manager to see if any upgrades were needed.
There were 33,708 packages listed, 1542 of which had been installed.
I checked FireFox to see if there were updates needed.
It showed that the installed version was 4.01 but latest version was 6.0
It had already been marked for automatic upgrade.
I also found the adobe-flashplugin and marked it for install.
This resulted in other dependencies being flagged, which I accepted.
I then hit the Apply button to apply all of the reccomended updates.
Adding the Adobe flash plug-in resulted in removal of the mint-flashplugin and mint-meta-codecs.
I decided to go ahead and go with the change since your porn site probably needed the Adobe flash.
I looked at the details in the install dialog to see if there were any problems, but this wasn't necessary. Everything had gone smoothly.
The software manager is a pretty version of package manager and much more artistic. There were 96 media players available, most with both the GPL drivers and the proprietary drivers either installed or available as options. This is different from Ubuntu distributions which only include the GPL drivers and converters.
I started firefox and checked the version. It was still 4.01
I also checked the plug-ins
There were several media plugins including:
QuickTime (thank you apple)
RealPlayer9 (thank you Real Media)
Shockwave Flash both 10.3.d180 and 10.3.d183
Windows Media Player Plug-in (Gecko Media Player - thank you Mozilla).
Next I pulled up YouTube on the browser. The video started but there was no sound. I had to turn up the volume on both Windows and Linux and then the sound worked fine.
Since you didn't specify a porn site, I tried one I knew.
When I tried to start the vidio with with WMP option, it gave me mplayer as a default option, and it worked fine. The RealMedia player also worked well. The downside of RealMedia is that this was a pay-per-minute site and the player wouldn't let you skip or fast-forward.
I did try to run the Silverlight player, but as I suspected, it tried to install Silverlight.
I knew that we needed the Linux equivalent so I checked software manager.
This is always better than going to some unknown sight that might try to feed you malware or spyware.
The moonlight packages, including manual, chromium, core, and mozilla packages were available.
Now we get to the downside. Silverlight is Microsoft's proprietary application and media format, and subject to change without notice. The Moonlight player started immediately, but since the media format was no longer compatible, all that appeared was a white screen.
Moral - don't use silverlight as your SOLE video distribution format.
Linux media players support about 20 different media formats, but if Microsoft doesn't want Linux users to play Silverlight media, they can stop it pretty easily.
Standard warning note. Using the very newest version of a release, a "development" version, is often risky. This is especially true of Ubuntu
> Then I installed Linux Mint Ubuntu (latest version, from an Indonesian
> mirror),
Why did you go to teh Indonesian mirror? Was that the closest one?
Or was that one that you had learned was known to be unreliable?
> since it supposedly has the most apps preloaded.
Mint has lots of apps, over 33,000 packages, and some packages can have as many as 30-40 applications within them.
> The
> installation went OK and I played around in the desktop, even reading
> a user's manual in a PDF viewer (not Adobe's).
The Adobe Acrobat Reader is available as a Mint install package, but again, the user has to explicitly accept licenses from Adobe before installing and running it. This is a legal issue, not a technical one.
> I found Firefox in the "Favorites" section (it was version 4.0 rather
> than 6.0, but no big deal I assume).
The upgrade was easy enough to install, using the package manager or software manager. Software manager lets you install packages one at a time, and go "shopping" for what you want. Package manager lets you select as many packages as you want, then installs them one at a time.
> I started Firefox, it worked. I did not bother changing the root user
> (in other words, I'm using the default 'mint' as user, and blank as
> password)
By default, Mint starts you up as "user" but you can use root to add additional accounts and set passwords to prevent security issues. It's always a good idea to change the default passwords anyway.
> I surfed to a static html web page and a .PHP web page and it worked
> fine. So far so good.
>
> I then went to a generic, safe, web porn site that seldom fails to
> arouse me, nor do I ever catch any virus when surfing under Windows,
> called the porn hub (one word).
>
> I clicked on a porn star Rebecca Linares video. I got a "Adobe Flash
> plug in fails to load " (something like that) [OK it says: 'the Adobe
> flash plug in has crashed. No report available. Reload the page to try
> again.] and a frowning face.
>
> I could NOT get out--it froze my entire VMWare screen that was playing
> Linux. I killed the screen, rebooted VWWare and tried
> 'playing' (running, that's their term) Linux Mint, but the system is
> frozen with the screenshot showing the error message, as before. The
> screen is frozen on the error message (and photos surrounding the
> message showing various porn stars, etc).
Sounds to me like you needed to install the VMware tools into your Linux image. VMware probably prompted you to do so but you probably ignored that prompt.
> Questions:
> 1/ how do I just kill Firefox--what keyboard commands? Mouse is not
> working inside of Linux.
If the mouse isn't completely gone, you can just use xkill, which will tell you to click the application you want to kill, and pops up the mouse curser with an x or skull and crossbones.
> 2/ do I need a firewall when surfing the net under Linux? Which one
> and where for Mint?
If you use the NAT setting, you will be using the VMware firewall which will be protected behind any firewalls you've set up for Windows 7.
In addition, there is a firewall and iptables based filter protecting the Linux system by default.
> 3/ Same question for viruses.
Virus concerns on Linux are different than for Windows.
Most malware based on the usual attack strategies for Windows viruses don't even work on Windows. At best, you might get a warning that you can't run an ActiveX control, or just get a human readable script showing you the offending VBScript or JavaScript that tried to pull in the virus. Very embarassing for the person who sent you the virus.
If you share files with Windows users, the Windows users can put viruses on your drive, if other windows users open that infected shared files, they could get infected too. The Linux system won't be impacted, but can become a carrier. If this is the case, you can have a Windows client run it's virus checker on the shared drive.
There are both Open Source and Commercial antivirus packages available for Linux. Symantic and McAffee offer their own software and update subscriptions for some of the Open Source packages - they are selling a service for an annual fee.
The other common way to get a virus is to download it from an unknown publisher via a web site, bbs, or USB. It's a bit like having unprotected sex with a prostitute. She make look cute, even sweet and innocent, but you have know idea who she has been with in the last few hours, let alone the last few months.
This is why Linux distributions usually offer package managers that allow users to download upgrades and new software from a trusted source. If you want commercial software for Linux, the download process is usually more rigorous and you get a copy that his been tagged in various ways to help identify anyone who might attempt to pirate or corrupt and distribute software.
> PS--VWMare runs Window XP no problem. Why is that? Perhaps XP is
> more stable than Linux?
I'm not terribly familiar with the Linux Mint distribution, and have newer particularly liked the Ubuntu distributions because they don't follow the standards required to install and manage high end commercial software. IBM, Oracle, SAP, and many others have great support for LBS 3.x standards and packaging, but Debian doesn't want to use any non OSS software and doesn't want to license any patents, even on a "Free to OSS" basis. Ubuntu is a bit more pragmatic, and Mint is more vendor friendly.
I have had better results with Fedora, OpenSUSE, RHELD, and SLED, all of whom have adopted the industry standards.
> RL
RayLopez99
> On Saturday 20 August 2011 13:48 in comp.os.linux.setup, 7 enlightened
>
> --
> Aragorn
> (registered GNU/Linux user #223157)
Thanks Aragorn for setting 7 in his place: the garbage dump.
If you have any suggestions--I'm going to reply to chris with my
questions--in getting Linux Mint working on VMware Player please let
me know.
RL
RayLopez99
<email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_...@enemygadgets.com> wrote:
>
> Most of these anti-Linux trolls are funded by micoshaft corporation
> or appil corporation, faceboook etc. Employees of companies like these
>
You work for Microsoft, and are trying to make the Linux advocates
look bad. Very clever. For a long time I thought you were a nut job
but there's perhaps method to your madness.
RL
RayLopez99
> RayLopez99 wrote:
> > So I decided to give Linux yet another chance: big mistake.
>
> > than 6.0, but no big deal I assume).
>
> Try updating. A fully updated Mint 11 has Firefox 6.
But I downloaded Mint just now from an Indonesian website from the
official Mint website. You think they had an old version of Mint?
Perhaps, but it's not good that Mint org would allow that. But I'll
do this--I'll download a Mint .iso from a US website.
>
> > I started Firefox, it worked. I did not bother changing the root user
> > (in other words, I'm using the default 'mint' as user, and blank as
> > password)
>
> So you are using the live cd despite earlier installing it... Interesting.
No, you are not paying attention, typical of zealots, no offense. I
said I'm running Linux Mint from VMware. Do you know that that is?
If not, Google it.
> > I surfed to a static html web page and a .PHP web page and it worked
> > fine. So far so good.
>
> > I then went to a generic, safe, webpornsite that seldom fails to
> > arouse me, nor do I ever catch any virus when surfing under Windows,
> > called thepornhub (one word).
>
> > I clicked on apornstar Rebecca Linares video. I got a "Adobe Flash
> > plug in fails to load " (something like that) [OK it says: 'the Adobe
> > flash plug in has crashed. No report available. Reload the page to try
> > again.] and a frowning face.
>
> > I could NOT get out--it froze my entire VMWare screen that was playing
> > Linux. I killed the screen, rebooted VWWare and tried
> > 'playing' (running, that's their term) Linux Mint, but the system is
> > frozen with the screenshot showing the error message, as before. The
> > screen is frozen on the error message (and photos surrounding the
> > message showing variouspornstars, etc).
>
> I was not able to reproduce that behaviour.
> However, with the old flashplugin in mint (which is actually an old
> prerelease since adobe didn't manage to release a final 64 bit flashplugin
> yet) the videos wouldn't load.
OK, fair enough, perhaps I have an old version. Also I am running 32
bit not 64. It make a difference.
>
> After I removed the package "mint-flashplugin-square" and installed
> flashplugin-nonfree, which uses the kludgy nspluginwrapper to load the 32
> bit flashplugin, it loads and plays just fine.
>
> But never did virtualbox nor firefox freeze in my tests.
>
> Maybe vmware on windows or your graphics drivers are buggy?
Maybe. But VMware on Windows works fine for XP. The drivers are
native Intel (graphics card on chip) drivers.
>
> > Questions:
>
> First my question: Do you really, really want to use flash on Linux? Thanks
> to adobe this is slow enaugh already. It is even worse when using it on a
> virtualized linux...
>
> > 1/ how do I just kill Firefox--what keyboard commands?
>
> alt+f2, pkill firefox
> if it doesn't kill it: pkill -9 firefox
first solution did not work. I dont' have a command line (how do you
generate it?) Screen is frozen.
>
> > Mouse is not
> > working inside of Linux.
>
> Your ... mouse is not working in your linux in vmware?
Apparently not.
>
> > 2/ do I need a firewall when surfing the net under Linux? Which one
> > and where for Mint?
>
> For what should you need a firewall? You don't need to block incoming
> connections; probably vmware has NAT for guests per default too? They
> shouldn't harm you anyway since Ubuntu should have a fairly securely out-of-
> the-box setup. You don't really need to block outgoing connections since
> there shouldn't be any software on it you don't trust. Well, you probably
> don't trust linux, but that's not what I mean. :)
OK, I buy that.
I'll reinstall Linux from a US server .iso and report back. Thanks
for your help.
>
> > 3/ Same question for viruses.
>
> When you really get hit by a virus, tell us. That should happen really,
> really seldom...
>
> > PS--VWMare runs Window XP no problem. Why is that? Perhaps XP is
> > more stable than Linux?
>
> Virtualbox runs Linux Mint without a problem. Why is that? Perhaps it hasn't
> anything to do with Windows XP allegedly being more stable?
>
> > RL
>
> Just use your windows to watchpornthen, since it is perhaps more stable
> and enjoyful?
"Enjoyful"? That a word? ;-)
Actually I don't mind watching porn in Windows, as I've never caught
anything from doing that, but I thought Linux would be an even safer
way of doing that--but so far I'm proved wrong.
RL
chris
> On Aug 20, 11:10 pm, chris <chrisdh...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> RayLopez99 wrote:
>> > So I decided to give Linux yet another chance: big mistake.
>>
>> > I found Firefox in the "Favorites" section (it was version 4.0 rather
>> > than 6.0, but no big deal I assume).
>>
>> Try updating. A fully updated Mint 11 has Firefox 6.
>
> But I downloaded Mint just now from an Indonesian website from the
> official Mint website. You think they had an old version of Mint?
> Perhaps, but it's not good that Mint org would allow that. But I'll
> do this--I'll download a Mint .iso from a US website.
That's not what I mean. Update the running system. The iso images are not so
often updatet with Ubuntu and Mint.
>> > I started Firefox, it worked. I did not bother changing the root user
>> > (in other words, I'm using the default 'mint' as user, and blank as
>> > password)
>>
>> So you are using the live cd despite earlier installing it...
>> Interesting.
>
> No, you are not paying attention, typical of zealots, no offense. I
> said I'm running Linux Mint from VMware. Do you know that that is?
> If not, Google it.
I know of the appliances. But I also read from you:
"Then I _installed_ Linux Mint Ubuntu (latest version, from an Indonesian
mirror), since it supposedly has the most apps preloaded.The
_installation_ went OK and I played around in the desktop, even reading
a user's manual in a PDF viewer (not Adobe's)."
It was not clear that you just installed the appliance.
>> > I surfed to a static html web page and a .PHP web page and it worked
>> > fine. So far so good.
>>
>> > I then went to a generic, safe, webpornsite that seldom fails to
>> > arouse me, nor do I ever catch any virus when surfing under Windows,
>> > called thepornhub (one word).
>>
>> > I clicked on apornstar Rebecca Linares video. I got a "Adobe Flash
>> > plug in fails to load " (something like that) [OK it says: 'the Adobe
>> > flash plug in has crashed. No report available. Reload the page to try
>> > again.] and a frowning face.
>>
>> > I could NOT get out--it froze my entire VMWare screen that was playing
>> > Linux. I killed the screen, rebooted VWWare and tried
>> > 'playing' (running, that's their term) Linux Mint, but the system is
>> > frozen with the screenshot showing the error message, as before. The
>> > screen is frozen on the error message (and photos surrounding the
>> > message showing variouspornstars, etc).
>>
>> I was not able to reproduce that behaviour.
>> However, with the old flashplugin in mint (which is actually an old
>> prerelease since adobe didn't manage to release a final 64 bit
>> flashplugin yet) the videos wouldn't load.
>
> OK, fair enough, perhaps I have an old version. Also I am running 32
> bit not 64. It make a difference.
Don't know. I tested the 64 bit version.
But you can check the flash version easily on
http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
Should say
"You have version 10,3,183,5 installed"
and not 10.3.162.x
>>
>> After I removed the package "mint-flashplugin-square" and installed
>> flashplugin-nonfree, which uses the kludgy nspluginwrapper to load the 32
>> bit flashplugin, it loads and plays just fine.
>>
>> But never did virtualbox nor firefox freeze in my tests.
>>
>> Maybe vmware on windows or your graphics drivers are buggy?
>
> Maybe. But VMware on Windows works fine for XP. The drivers are
> native Intel (graphics card on chip) drivers.
Then maybe the virtual graphics drivers from vmware?
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RayLopez99
> RayLopez99 wrote:
> > On Aug 20, 11:10 pm, chris <chrisdh...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >> RayLopez99 wrote:
> >> > So I decided to give Linux yet another chance: big mistake.
>
> >> > I found Firefox in the "Favorites" section (it was version 4.0 rather
> >> > than 6.0, but no big deal I assume).
>
> >> Try updating. A fully updated Mint 11 has Firefox 6.
>
> > But I downloaded Mint just now from an Indonesian website from the
> > official Mint website. You think they had an old version of Mint?
> > Perhaps, but it's not good that Mint org would allow that. But I'll
> > do this--I'll download a Mint .iso from a US website.
>
> That's not what I mean. Update the running system. The iso images are not so
> often updatet with Ubuntu and Mint.
I wasted an hour of my life downloading from a US site--then I find
it's EXACTLY the same size as the Indonesian site. But anyway I
reinstalled Linux. Same problem as before: it dies on Flash sites
(though the Adobe test page loads OK). Version is 1.0 of Firefox 4.0
for Linux. It DIED again, and I have to reinstall as I type this...
this sucks.
OK it has 100% died because I guess I did something in sudo.
Please read this link: http://www.johannes-eva.net/how-to-install-firefox-on-ubuntu-linux
Tell me: do you think this is the best way to install (upgrade)
Firefox? I doubt it. I did follow his directions but the net result
is I cannot get into the /opt directory from Home or Download folder
(that is, I cannot copy or move any folder in Downloads, after I
extract from the .tar file the Firefox folder, into /opt--copy and
paste using the File Manager fails). There has to be a better way.
On top of that, I lost the 'gear symbol' in the lower left corner,
hence i have to reinstall. Yes I did do the Sudo thing as he
instructed, but it only worked to delete the Firefox that was there; I
could not transfer the 'new' (downloaded) Firefox from Downloads
folder.
Please work with me. This is not trolling, it's frustration. I will
reinstall Linux Mint from inside VMware now...
>
> >> > I started Firefox, it worked. I did not bother changing the root user
> >> > (in other words, I'm using the default 'mint' as user, and blank as
> >> > password)
>
> >> So you are using the live cd despite earlier installing it...
> >> Interesting.
>
> > No, you are not paying attention, typical of zealots, no offense. I
> > said I'm running Linux Mint from VMware. Do you know that that is?
> > If not, Google it.
>
> I know of the appliances. But I also read from you:
>
> "Then I _installed_ Linux Mint Ubuntu (latest version, from an Indonesian
> mirror), since it supposedly has the most apps preloaded.The
> _installation_ went OK and I played around in the desktop, even reading
> a user's manual in a PDF viewer (not Adobe's)."
>
> It was not clear that you just installed the appliance.
>
fUCK THIS SHIT GOD DAMN IT I CANNOT GET THIS FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT SW
TO WORK? HOW THE HELL DO YOU EXPECT ME TO LIKE LINUX? FUCKING
UNBELIEVABLE. i HAVE A DOCTOR'S DEGREE, HAVE BUILT MANY A PC FROM
SCRATCH, PROGRAM IN VISUAL STUDIO IN SEVERAL LANGUAGES, RUN MY OWN
BUSINESS, AND I FEEL LIKE A MORON RUNNING LINUX! THIS IS NUTS! Sorry
for the vent.. very frustrating... can anybodyplease help?
> Don't know. I tested the 64 bit version.
> But you can check the flash version easily onhttp://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
>
i got the 'text' not animation. but then when i tested on another
flash site I did get movement. but again, on the porn site i could
not load any video (but the margins did have porn animation going--if
you follow) and the system (firefox) crashed twice then, as i say
above, i fucked up the system trying what the guy in the URL "How to"
said to do.
Now I reinstall.
ok. pls help me. I got it back...i am looking at the main screen:
computer, mint home, install mint (three icons) then the lower left
gear symbol gives Places System Favorites with lots of icons. Which
one to install Firefox? (that is, reinstall)
I just clicked on "Package Manager"...now I'm browsing for Firefox...I
DO NOT BELIEVE THIS...it does not have Firefox! I has every
conceivable program i've never heard of except Firefox. For example,
under Communications (universe--they also have a 'multiverse') it has
Asterisk but not Firefox as you might expect. Where the hell is the
icon for Firefox? It has GNURadio FLEX page decoder etc.
Pls help me.
Can anybody help a Linux newbie? Where do you turn for help?
RL
Peter Köhlmann
< snip Dopez shite >
Idiot
Big Steel
>
> Pls help me.
>
> Can anybody help a Linux newbie? Where do you turn for help?
>
> RL
Are you serious? These clowns couldn't help a fly find a dump truck in
100 degree weather if they were sitting in the front seat of the cab,
windows rolled down, air blowing out the cab and their panties down at
their ankles. :)
chris
> On Aug 21, 1:51 pm, chris <chrisdh...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> RayLopez99 wrote:
>> > On Aug 20, 11:10 pm, chris <chrisdh...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> >> RayLopez99 wrote:
>> >> > So I decided to give Linux yet another chance: big mistake.
>>
>> >> > I found Firefox in the "Favorites" section (it was version 4.0
>> >> > rather than 6.0, but no big deal I assume).
>>
>> >> Try updating. A fully updated Mint 11 has Firefox 6.
>>
>> > But I downloaded Mint just now from an Indonesian website from the
>> > official Mint website. You think they had an old version of Mint?
>> > Perhaps, but it's not good that Mint org would allow that. But I'll
>> > do this--I'll download a Mint .iso from a US website.
>>
>> That's not what I mean. Update the running system. The iso images are not
>> so often updatet with Ubuntu and Mint.
>
> I wasted an hour of my life downloading
Yes, you were forced to stare at a progress bar for one hour not able to do
anything else in this time. It's always hard to download things, yes. But
have you heard about this brand new paradigm of "multi tasking"? This could
be the solution!
> from a US site--then I find
> it's EXACTLY the same size as the Indonesian site. But anyway I
> reinstalled Linux. Same problem as before: it dies on Flash sites
> (though the Adobe test page loads OK). Version is 1.0 of Firefox 4.0
> for Linux. It DIED again, and I have to reinstall as I type this...
> this sucks.
>
> OK it has 100% died because I guess I did something in sudo.
>
> Please read this link:
> http://www.johannes-eva.net/how-to-install-firefox-on-ubuntu-linux
>
> Tell me: do you think this is the best way to install (upgrade)
> Firefox? I doubt it. I did follow his directions but the net result
> is I cannot get into the /opt directory from Home or Download folder
> (that is, I cannot copy or move any folder in Downloads, after I
> extract from the .tar file the Firefox folder, into /opt--copy and
> paste using the File Manager fails). There has to be a better way.
> On top of that, I lost the 'gear symbol' in the lower left corner,
> hence i have to reinstall. Yes I did do the Sudo thing as he
> instructed, but it only worked to delete the Firefox that was there; I
> could not transfer the 'new' (downloaded) Firefox from Downloads
> folder.
>
> Please work with me. This is not trolling, it's frustration. I will
> reinstall Linux Mint from inside VMware now...
Just use the damn update manager. It's not that hard to find.
>> >> > I started Firefox, it worked. I did not bother changing the root
>> >> > user (in other words, I'm using the default 'mint' as user, and
>> >> > blank as password)
>>
>> >> So you are using the live cd despite earlier installing it...
>> >> Interesting.
>>
>> > No, you are not paying attention, typical of zealots, no offense. I
>> > said I'm running Linux Mint from VMware. Do you know that that is?
>> > If not, Google it.
>>
>> I know of the appliances. But I also read from you:
>>
>> "Then I _installed_ Linux Mint Ubuntu (latest version, from an Indonesian
>> mirror), since it supposedly has the most apps preloaded.The
>> _installation_ went OK and I played around in the desktop, even reading
>> a user's manual in a PDF viewer (not Adobe's)."
>>
>> It was not clear that you just installed the appliance.
>>
>
> fUCK THIS SHIT GOD DAMN IT I CANNOT GET THIS FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT SW
> TO WORK? HOW THE HELL DO YOU EXPECT ME TO LIKE LINUX? FUCKING
> UNBELIEVABLE. i HAVE A DOCTOR'S DEGREE, HAVE BUILT MANY A PC FROM
> SCRATCH, PROGRAM IN VISUAL STUDIO IN SEVERAL LANGUAGES, RUN MY OWN
> BUSINESS, AND I FEEL LIKE A MORON RUNNING LINUX! THIS IS NUTS! Sorry
> for the vent.. very frustrating... can anybodyplease help?
It's probably because you expect it to be a windows replacement instead of a
different operating system where things work differently.
>> Don't know. I tested the 64 bit version.
>> But you can check the flash version easily
>> onhttp://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
>>
>
> i got the 'text' not animation. but then when i tested on another
> flash site I did get movement. but again, on the porn site i could
> not load any video (but the margins did have porn animation going--if
> you follow) and the system (firefox) crashed twice then,
Actually I now think that the vmware virtual graphics drivers have a problem
when this happens. Certainly doesn't happen with virtualbox and the virtual
Chrome graphics card.
> as i say
> above, i fucked up the system trying what the guy in the URL "How to"
> said to do.
>
> Now I reinstall.
>
> ok. pls help me. I got it back...i am looking at the main screen:
> computer, mint home, install mint (three icons) then the lower left
> gear symbol gives Places System Favorites with lots of icons. Which
> one to install Firefox? (that is, reinstall)
>
> I just clicked on "Package Manager"...now I'm browsing for Firefox...I
> DO NOT BELIEVE THIS...it does not have Firefox! I has every
> conceivable program i've never heard of except Firefox. For example,
> under Communications (universe--they also have a 'multiverse') it has
> Asterisk but not Firefox as you might expect. Where the hell is the
> icon for Firefox? It has GNURadio FLEX page decoder etc.
>
> Pls help me.
>
> Can anybody help a Linux newbie? Where do you turn for help?
>
> RL
I don't think I can help you further.
First, you should use the update manager. Then firefox already will be
updated to version 6.
Then, firefox is not in "Communication", it is in "World Wide Web" as you
might expect - but it's actually easier to use the search box on all
packages instead of browsing for it.
If you can't figure it out I can't help you.
But I really have to wonder what kind of programmer when you are so
reluctant to learning new stuff.
chris
> On Aug 21, 1:51 pm, chris <chrisdh...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> RayLopez99 wrote:
>> > On Aug 20, 11:10 pm, chris <chrisdh...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> >> RayLopez99 wrote:
>> >> > So I decided to give Linux yet another chance: big mistake.
>>
>> >> > I found Firefox in the "Favorites" section (it was version 4.0
>> >> > rather than 6.0, but no big deal I assume).
>>
>> >> Try updating. A fully updated Mint 11 has Firefox 6.
>>
>> > But I downloaded Mint just now from an Indonesian website from the
>> > official Mint website. You think they had an old version of Mint?
>> > Perhaps, but it's not good that Mint org would allow that. But I'll
>> > do this--I'll download a Mint .iso from a US website.
>>
>> That's not what I mean. Update the running system. The iso images are not
>> so often updatet with Ubuntu and Mint.
>
> I wasted an hour of my life downloading
Yes, you were forced to stare at a progress bar for one hour not able to do
anything else in this time. It's always hard to download things, yes. But
have you heard about this brand new paradigm of "multi tasking"? This could
be the solution!
> from a US site--then I find
> it's EXACTLY the same size as the Indonesian site. But anyway I
> reinstalled Linux. Same problem as before: it dies on Flash sites
> (though the Adobe test page loads OK). Version is 1.0 of Firefox 4.0
> for Linux. It DIED again, and I have to reinstall as I type this...
> this sucks.
>
> OK it has 100% died because I guess I did something in sudo.
>
> Please read this link:
> http://www.johannes-eva.net/how-to-install-firefox-on-ubuntu-linux
>
> Tell me: do you think this is the best way to install (upgrade)
> Firefox? I doubt it. I did follow his directions but the net result
> is I cannot get into the /opt directory from Home or Download folder
> (that is, I cannot copy or move any folder in Downloads, after I
> extract from the .tar file the Firefox folder, into /opt--copy and
> paste using the File Manager fails). There has to be a better way.
> On top of that, I lost the 'gear symbol' in the lower left corner,
> hence i have to reinstall. Yes I did do the Sudo thing as he
> instructed, but it only worked to delete the Firefox that was there; I
> could not transfer the 'new' (downloaded) Firefox from Downloads
> folder.
>
> Please work with me. This is not trolling, it's frustration. I will
> reinstall Linux Mint from inside VMware now...
Just use the damn update manager. It's not that hard to find.
>> >> > I started Firefox, it worked. I did not bother changing the root
>> >> > user (in other words, I'm using the default 'mint' as user, and
>> >> > blank as password)
>>
>> >> So you are using the live cd despite earlier installing it...
>> >> Interesting.
>>
>> > No, you are not paying attention, typical of zealots, no offense. I
>> > said I'm running Linux Mint from VMware. Do you know that that is?
>> > If not, Google it.
>>
>> I know of the appliances. But I also read from you:
>>
>> "Then I _installed_ Linux Mint Ubuntu (latest version, from an Indonesian
>> mirror), since it supposedly has the most apps preloaded.The
>> _installation_ went OK and I played around in the desktop, even reading
>> a user's manual in a PDF viewer (not Adobe's)."
>>
>> It was not clear that you just installed the appliance.
>>
>
> fUCK THIS SHIT GOD DAMN IT I CANNOT GET THIS FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT SW
> TO WORK? HOW THE HELL DO YOU EXPECT ME TO LIKE LINUX? FUCKING
> UNBELIEVABLE. i HAVE A DOCTOR'S DEGREE, HAVE BUILT MANY A PC FROM
> SCRATCH, PROGRAM IN VISUAL STUDIO IN SEVERAL LANGUAGES, RUN MY OWN
> BUSINESS, AND I FEEL LIKE A MORON RUNNING LINUX! THIS IS NUTS! Sorry
> for the vent.. very frustrating... can anybodyplease help?
It's probably because you expect it to be a windows replacement instead of a
different operating system where things work differently.
>> Don't know. I tested the 64 bit version.
>> But you can check the flash version easily
>> onhttp://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
>>
>
> i got the 'text' not animation. but then when i tested on another
> flash site I did get movement. but again, on the porn site i could
> not load any video (but the margins did have porn animation going--if
> you follow) and the system (firefox) crashed twice then,
Actually I now think that the vmware virtual graphics drivers have a problem
when this happens. Certainly doesn't happen with virtualbox and the virtual
Chrome graphics card.
> as i say
> above, i fucked up the system trying what the guy in the URL "How to"
> said to do.
>
> Now I reinstall.
>
> ok. pls help me. I got it back...i am looking at the main screen:
> computer, mint home, install mint (three icons) then the lower left
> gear symbol gives Places System Favorites with lots of icons. Which
> one to install Firefox? (that is, reinstall)
>
> I just clicked on "Package Manager"...now I'm browsing for Firefox...I
> DO NOT BELIEVE THIS...it does not have Firefox! I has every
> conceivable program i've never heard of except Firefox. For example,
> under Communications (universe--they also have a 'multiverse') it has
> Asterisk but not Firefox as you might expect. Where the hell is the
> icon for Firefox? It has GNURadio FLEX page decoder etc.
>
> Pls help me.
>
> Can anybody help a Linux newbie? Where do you turn for help?
>
> RL
I don't think I can help you further.
Clogwog
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> RayLopez99 wrote:
>
>
> < snip Dopez shite >
>
> Idiot
=> 'Peter Köhlmann',
IQ => 90,
occupation => "Windows Programmer",
hobby => 'Pretend to know something about Linux'
Peter Köhlmann Troll Feeder /nymshifter /nymthief. Will feed any troll -
spares no one.
Peter Kohlmann is ultra German, and an ultra-idiot. Rarely is right.
He'll admit to using Windows, then in the next post claim he is not a
Windows user.
A full blow hypocrite. He enjoys techno music and Krispy Kreme Doughnuts.
Nickname: PIK (Peter Idiot Kuntmann), the usenet Nazi and COLA regular.
His known fake aliases include: Oxford, Simon Cooke, Cola_masturbater,
Cola_moderator,
Jeff Relf, William Poaster, Roy Culley, Tholan, Snit, and the list goes on.
Meet Peter Köhlmann in his lederhosen
http://www.ladonia.net/herald/pict/lederhosen.jpg
Gregory Shearman
> RayLopez99 wrote:
<The usual trolling Lopez shit>
> I don't think I can help you further.
>
> First, you should use the update manager. Then firefox already will be
> updated to version 6.
> Then, firefox is not in "Communication", it is in "World Wide Web" as you
> might expect - but it's actually easier to use the search box on all
> packages instead of browsing for it.
>
> If you can't figure it out I can't help you.
> But I really have to wonder what kind of programmer when you are so
> reluctant to learning new stuff.
Please don't feed the trolls, especially this moron.
--
Regards,
Gregory.
Gentoo Linux - Penguin Power
Homer
> RayLopez99 wrote:
>> RL
>
> I don't think I can help you further.
What did you expect from someone with the IQ of a cabbage?
--
K. | "Everything that should be is working."
http://slated.org | ~ Vostok 1 designer and chief engineer,
Fedora 8 (Werewolf) on šky | Sergei Korolev, to Yuri Gagarin, during
kernel 2.6.31.5, up 90 days | the first manned space mission.
Norman Peelman
> RayLopez99 wrote:
>
>> On Aug 21, 1:51 pm, chris<chrisdh...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> RayLopez99 wrote:
>>>> On Aug 20, 11:10 pm, chris<chrisdh...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>> RayLopez99 wrote:
>>>>>> So I decided to give Linux yet another chance: big mistake.
>>>
>>>>>> I found Firefox in the "Favorites" section (it was version 4.0
>>>>>> rather than 6.0, but no big deal I assume).
>>>
>>>>> Try updating. A fully updated Mint 11 has Firefox 6.
>>>
>>>> But I downloaded Mint just now from an Indonesian website from the
>>>> official Mint website. You think they had an old version of Mint?
>>>> Perhaps, but it's not good that Mint org would allow that. But I'll
>>>> do this--I'll download a Mint .iso from a US website.
>>>
waste of time, flash works just by default in mint. you obviously are
going to site that have altered/created there own flash player. bog
standard flash has never given me problems.
>>> That's not what I mean. Update the running system. The iso images are not
>>> so often updatet with Ubuntu and Mint.
>>
>> I wasted an hour of my life downloading
>
> Yes, you were forced to stare at a progress bar for one hour not able to do
> anything else in this time. It's always hard to download things, yes. But
> have you heard about this brand new paradigm of "multi tasking"? This could
> be the solution!
>
>> from a US site--then I find
>> it's EXACTLY the same size as the Indonesian site. But anyway I
>> reinstalled Linux. Same problem as before: it dies on Flash sites
>> (though the Adobe test page loads OK). Version is 1.0 of Firefox 4.0
>> for Linux. It DIED again, and I have to reinstall as I type this...
>> this sucks.
>>
if you would go into the vmware folder where you are creating your
virtual machines and simply make a copy, you would have to reinstall
anything.
>> OK it has 100% died because I guess I did something in sudo.
>>
>> Please read this link:
>> http://www.johannes-eva.net/how-to-install-firefox-on-ubuntu-linux
>>
>> Tell me: do you think this is the best way to install (upgrade)
>> Firefox? I doubt it. I did follow his directions but the net result
>> is I cannot get into the /opt directory from Home or Download folder
>> (that is, I cannot copy or move any folder in Downloads, after I
>> extract from the .tar file the Firefox folder, into /opt--copy and
>> paste using the File Manager fails). There has to be a better way.
>> On top of that, I lost the 'gear symbol' in the lower left corner,
>> hence i have to reinstall. Yes I did do the Sudo thing as he
>> instructed, but it only worked to delete the Firefox that was there; I
>> could not transfer the 'new' (downloaded) Firefox from Downloads
>> folder.
>>
>> Please work with me. This is not trolling, it's frustration. I will
>> reinstall Linux Mint from inside VMware now...
>
how about trying to get the initial install working or i should say,
you working with it in this case, before you worry about updating things.
> Just use the damn update manager. It's not that hard to find.
>
>>>>>> I started Firefox, it worked. I did not bother changing the root
>>>>>> user (in other words, I'm using the default 'mint' as user, and
>>>>>> blank as password)
>>>
>>>>> So you are using the live cd despite earlier installing it...
>>>>> Interesting.
>>>
no, not interesting at all. he hasn't rebooted into the new install
as you will notice below...
>>>> No, you are not paying attention, typical of zealots, no offense. I
>>>> said I'm running Linux Mint from VMware. Do you know that that is?
>>>> If not, Google it.
>>>
>>> I know of the appliances. But I also read from you:
>>>
>>> "Then I _installed_ Linux Mint Ubuntu (latest version, from an Indonesian
>>> mirror), since it supposedly has the most apps preloaded.The
>>> _installation_ went OK and I played around in the desktop, even reading
>>> a user's manual in a PDF viewer (not Adobe's)."
>>>
right, not adobe, it's called document viewer, or evince. i just
checked in my linux mint 10 64 virtual machine with flash 10,2,161,23
installed and working like a charm. i have 10.3.183.5 installed on
another virtual machine here somewhere though... oh wait, imagine that,
i just installed version 11,0,1,98 64 bit from adobe. man, you can never
get enough judas priest. there they are in all their glory - full
screen. even 1080p video full screen works.
>>> It was not clear that you just installed the appliance.
>>>
>>
>> fUCK THIS SHIT GOD DAMN IT I CANNOT GET THIS FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT SW
>> TO WORK? HOW THE HELL DO YOU EXPECT ME TO LIKE LINUX? FUCKING
>> UNBELIEVABLE. i HAVE A DOCTOR'S DEGREE, HAVE BUILT MANY A PC FROM
>> SCRATCH, PROGRAM IN VISUAL STUDIO IN SEVERAL LANGUAGES, RUN MY OWN
>> BUSINESS, AND I FEEL LIKE A MORON RUNNING LINUX! THIS IS NUTS! Sorry
>> for the vent.. very frustrating... can anybodyplease help?
>
> It's probably because you expect it to be a windows replacement instead of a
> different operating system where things work differently.
>
>>> Don't know. I tested the 64 bit version.
>>> But you can check the flash version easily
>>> onhttp://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
>>>
>>
>> i got the 'text' not animation. but then when i tested on another
>> flash site I did get movement. but again, on the porn site i could
>> not load any video (but the margins did have porn animation going--if
>> you follow) and the system (firefox) crashed twice then,
>
> Actually I now think that the vmware virtual graphics drivers have a problem
> when this happens. Certainly doesn't happen with virtualbox and the virtual
> Chrome graphics card.
>
>> as i say
>> above, i fucked up the system trying what the guy in the URL "How to"
>> said to do.
>>
>> Now I reinstall.
>>
this next part is the interesting part...
>> ok. pls help me. I got it back...i am looking at the main screen:
>> computer, mint home, install mint (three icons) then the lower left
>> gear symbol gives Places System Favorites with lots of icons. Which
>> one to install Firefox? (that is, reinstall)
>>
can anyone tell the group which one of the three icons mentioned
above is not visible after an install followed by choosing reboot when
asked if you want to boot the new install or continue testing the
livecd. which by the way, then proceeds to ask you to eject the cd
before rebooting.
>> I just clicked on "Package Manager"...now I'm browsing for Firefox...I
>> DO NOT BELIEVE THIS...it does not have Firefox! I has every
>> conceivable program i've never heard of except Firefox. For example,
>> under Communications (universe--they also have a 'multiverse') it has
>> Asterisk but not Firefox as you might expect. Where the hell is the
>> icon for Firefox? It has GNURadio FLEX page decoder etc.
>>
>> Pls help me.
>>
>> Can anybody help a Linux newbie? Where do you turn for help?
>>
>> RL
>
typing firefox into the quick search box reveals firefox installed by
default. you can't even finish typing fire into the main menu search box
without firefox showing up at the top of the list.
> I don't think I can help you further.
>
> First, you should use the update manager. Then firefox already will be
> updated to version 6.
> Then, firefox is not in "Communication", it is in "World Wide Web" as you
> might expect - but it's actually easier to use the search box on all
> packages instead of browsing for it.
>
> If you can't figure it out I can't help you.
> But I really have to wonder what kind of programmer when you are so
> reluctant to learning new stuff.
>
reluctance is not his problem.
--
Norman
Registered Linux user #461062
AMD64X2 6400+ Ubuntu 10.04 64bit
Peter Köhlmann
> Verily I say unto thee that chris spake thusly:
>> RayLopez99 wrote:
>
>>> RL
>>
>> I don't think I can help you further.
>
> What did you expect from someone with the IQ of a cabbage?
>
Just don't insult cabbage. It is *way* smarter than RayDopez
Hadron
Christ on a bike you old windbag, did you really need to post so much
net nannying to that little dick? Bin him with a one line explanation
and be done. Boy do you like the sound of your own voice.
--
Emacs outshines all other editing software in approximately the same way
that the noonday sun does the stars. It is not just bigger and brighter;
it simply makes everything else vanish - Neal Stephenson
Rex Ballard
> Aragorn wrote:
> > This group is called comp.os.linux.setup, not comp.os.linux.advocacy.
> > Could you please, pretty please, keep your personal vendettas with the
> > Win-trolls confined to comp.os.linux.advocacy?
Thank you for pointing out the cross-post. I hadn't realized that this had been cross-posted to the other groups, and I was responding to an article in comp.os.linux.advocacy (COLA).
> > There's a place for this sort of nonsense, and it's called
> > comp.os.linux.advocacy. So keep the nonsense there, where it belongs,
> > and have the courtesy of allowing other groups to carry on with their
> > own business.
Agreed. Not sure why I can't see the cross-post list. I've been using Google groups and it usually shows these, and I remove cross-posts when I see them.
Has Ray learned new tricks?
> Most of these anti-Linux trolls are funded by micoshaft corporation
> or appil corporation, faceboook etc. Employees of companies like these
Others are heavily dependent on the continued success of the Microsoft Monopoly. We have several trolls in COLA who make their living by writing VB to access SQL Server via IIS. In their spare time, they post to COLA.
> http://www.ntrepidcorp.com/
> http://www.burson-marsteller.com/
> are known to be the outlets through which internet based
> trolling gets initiated. The EU has banned it, and any companies
> with offices in EU could get prison sentences and fines
> handed out - but not in the USA which is where all the
> internet based trolling problems originate from.
> In the USA all the funding for trolls is channeled
> through abuse of charities which bypasses the need for
> accountability and invoices. The US charity regulators
> are to blame for allowing money to be channeled through
> charities to carry out commercial operations such
> as internet trolling for profit through abuse of charity status.
After a recent Supreme Court ruling which ruled that corporations and non-profit organizations are "people too" an therefore entitled to unrestricted freedom of speech, this is also how our election campaigns are now funded. The Koch brothers have contributed millions of dollars to political campaigns on behalf of the TEA party, Fox News gives favorable coverage to the far Right, and MSNBC gives coverage to the far Left. Fox uses the $billions from it's entertainment business and shows like American Idol to fund Anti-Liberal Pro-Conservative Pro-TEA Party programming on 3 of it's Cable channels.
This means that companies like Microsoft (who is part owner of MSNBC), can funnel unlimited funds into political activities in support of candidates from BOTH parties - assuring that they are above the law, especially in the United States.
Of course, Microsoft isn't the only one. These days we have huge corporation draining $trillions from the global economy while the politicians they funded make sure that all attempts to regulate them, including staffing the regulatory agencies - is completely blocked, and that the budgets to regulate them are cut to the bone - without actually eliminating the regulatory agencies.
> A few wikileaks to open up scrutiny of the funding routes and who's who in
> the chain of command could be a starting point.
To wikileaks - cola troll funding is like a gnat in a room full of killer bees. They might mention the gnats, but the $millions going into cola, if even that, are nothing compared to the $trillions being funneled into big takers like Halliburton, Bank of America, Citibank, Chase, American Coal, and Exxon.
By funding George W Bush, and congressional and Senate candidates who can block Obama, these companies have been able to drain about $14 trillion from the global economy and make it "disappear", and do it tax-free.
COLA is at best a dozen or so full-time WinTrolls who might be getting a few thousand dollars a month each. But it has been effective up to now. In spite of the fact that the PC industry has collapsed as a result, Microsoft has been able to force OEMs to put Windows 7 on every Netbook (notice most stores don't sell Netbooks anymore), and PCs (most PC divisions are now losing money).
HP and Dell are both bleeding red from their PC units. Gateway went Bankrupt, E-Machines went south before that, and the only PC companies actually making money are Acer and ASUS who make sure that every machine they sell is "Linux Ready".
Meanwhile, Kindle, Android, and iPads, as well as Apple are posting huge gains and nice profits on UNIX and Linux based systems. In effect, *nix is killing Microsoft from the underbelly.
> Stories like this
> http://www.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=173964
> set a precedent which means every asstroturfer is due for a minimum
> $400,000 fine.
>
> Trolling is so ingrained into the every day life of politics
> and government in USA, that a clean up act needs political
> will before it can ever happen. Here is an example
> of how bad and rotten to the core the situation
> is in the US:
As mentioned above, USA Politics is now in unprecedented territory, where well the very rich can buy elections. They can keep the opposition from showing up at the elections (mass mailings were sent out telling people to vote - the day AFTER the real election - but only sent to democrats).
In very liberal districts, Republican poll workers systematically challenge voters, telling them that even though their name is in the book, they have to bring in their driver's license, social security card, bills from the utility company... to turn away anyone who "Looks Liberal". Election laws require only that they be registered to vote n days prior to the election - if their name is in the book, and they give the correct name and look the right age - they are supposed to be allowed to vote.
In Republican districts, there are no challenges at all. In fact, if you know grandma's in the nursing home, you could give her name and vote again.
If you're expecting the United States to stop Microsoft, forget it. They were major contributors to candidates who opposed candidates who had expressed a desire to regulate Microsoft, including George W Bush and Barak Obama. Microsoft DIDN'T want Hillary Clinton or John McCain getting elected, because both felt that Microsoft SHOULD have been regulated, instead of the wrist-slap they got on the antitrust case.
chrisv
>Homer wrote:
>> chris spake thusly:
>>>
>>> I don't think I can help you further.
>>
>> What did you expect from someone with the IQ of a cabbage?
>
>Just don't insult cabbage. It is *way* smarter than RayDopez
Sauerkraut. Maybe. 8)
Homer
At least sauerkraut, coleslaw, bubble & squeak and other cabbage dishes
have some use, unlike Dopez. Even rotten cabbage makes good fertiliser.
Dopez, OTOH, makes nothing but retarded comments.
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http://slated.org | Inquired: "Do you know what this thenzies?"
Fedora 8 (Werewolf) on šky | Her aunt, with a gasp, replied: "It's a wasp,
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JeffM
>I've been using Google groups
>
news:9ff24fef-a4f0-4ca1...@k10g2000prh.googlegroups.com
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/e43ec207a7862bd4?q=zz+zz+zz++72
>Fox News gives favorable coverage to the far Right,
>
...and especially to the reactionaries.
The corporate media now considers Right to be the new center.
"Far Right" barely moves the buck.
>and MSNBC gives coverage to the far Left.
>
**Far** Left? Pffff. NeoLiberals at best; all of those Right of
center.
Don't forget for a second that MSNBC fired Olbermann.
It's amazing how the politics have shifted so far Right in the USA
such that Obama and his ilk get called Leftists by the media
(and working people parrot that drivel).
You have to look really hard these days
to find a politician who is actually anywhere Left of center.
I gave up on television and corporate broadcast media years ago
specifically because they DON'T have any ACTUAL Progressives on.
(The PBS NewsHour is majority-owned by a Republican.)
The only broadcasts I have found
that still have anyone on who is actually Left of center
is Pacifica Radio.
>Microsoft (who is part owner of MSNBC)
>
...won't be airing anyone with an actual Progressive bent.
The corporate media echo chamber is all about corporatism.
>By funding George W Bush,
>and congressional and Senate candidates who can block Obama,
>[The Kochs, et al] have been able to drain about $14 trillion
>from the global economy and make it "disappear", and do it tax-free.
>
Fewer than 1 in 6 in the Congress are self-described Progressives
--with many of those disingenuous bastards
voting for more militarism and cuts to the social safety net.
There is only ONE Progressive in the Senate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Progressive_Caucus#Senate_members
Note also (just below that) Pelosi
who flip-flopped as soon as it was no longer politically expedient
for her to *call* herself Progressive--though she never *actually*
was.
Corporate media not only won't be showing Progressives in a positive
light,
they will go out of their way to find the footage
that makes sure that any Progressive on the air looks like a buffoon.
http://google.com/search?q=Howard-Dean-screams
http://google.com/search?q=Kucinich-singing
>Kindle, Android, and iPads, as well as Apple are posting huge gains
>and nice profits on UNIX and Linux based systems.
>In effect, *nix is killing Microsoft from the underbelly.
>[...]
>If you're expecting the United States to stop Microsoft, forget it.
>
Yup. Fortunately, the marketplace is doing it.
Most folks who are buying stuff aren't buying desktop space heaters.
They're buying handheld thingies where Wintel isn't a serious factor.
...and the folks who *are* running desktops
continue to use their old hardware
which was powerful enough years ago to do all their tasks.
The **smart** ones are looking at how they can use Linux
when their much-needed XP patches go bye-bye.
RayLopez99
> Just use your windows to watch porn then, since it is perhaps more stable
> and enjoyful?
Chris--thanks for your help but I could not get Linux Mint to run in
VWware--so I gave up. I went back to surfing porn using Windows 7,
and since the one virus I caught in Win7 was not from porn surfing but
was from a USB stick that had a program I unwisely ran that had a
virus on it, I feel that there's no need for Linux.
Too bad, as I was willing to give Linux another chance. But it failed
me once again.
RL
RayLopez99
> > First, you should use the update manager. Then firefox already will be
> > updated to version 6.
> > Then, firefox is not in "Communication", it is in "World Wide Web" as you
> > might expect - but it's actually easier to use the search box on all
> > packages instead of browsing for it.
>
> > If you can't figure it out I can't help you.
> > But I really have to wonder what kind of programmer when you are so
> > reluctant to learning new stuff.
>
> reluctance is not his problem.
>
> --
> Norman
> Registered Linux user #461062
> AMD64X2 6400+ Ubuntu 10.04 64bit
YOU got me into VMware. YOU. Now you claim it's my fault?
Big picture: Mint *did* install and *did* work in VWware on a NON-porn
website. It failed on porn. I gave up on Mint and Windows XP in
emulation in VMware works fine. But I found that Windows 7 is even
better and just as safe (since more recent)--since btw running WIndows
XP in VMware does not mean you cannot screw up your hard drive with
some virus I've read--so why bother with an older OS? Just stick with
Win7 with a decent AV and firewall. And that's what I'm doing now.
I am jerking off to Rebecca Linares watching porn on W7 just fine,
and, I hate to break your heart Norm, but I'm not thinking of you.
Goodbye Linux (l)user and, as usual, thanks for nothing you good for
nothing.
RL
chris
> On Aug 20, 11:10 pm, chris <chrisdh...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Just use your windows to watch porn then, since it is perhaps more stable
>> and enjoyful?
>
> Chris--thanks for your help but I could not get Linux Mint to run in
> VWware--so I gave up. I went back to surfing porn using Windows 7,
> and since the one virus I caught in Win7 was not from porn surfing but
> was from a USB stick that had a program I unwisely ran that had a
> virus on it, I feel that there's no need for Linux.
I'm sure you have been directed to http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
before.
The bottom line is a quote from it:
"If you really just want Windows without the malware and security issues:
Read up on good security practices; install a good firewall, malware-
detector, and anti-virus; replace IE with a more secure browser; and keep
yourself up-to-date with security updates. There are people out there
(myself included) who've used Windows since 3.1 days right through to XP
without ever being infected with a virus or malware: you can do it too.
Don't get Linux: It will fail miserably at being what you want it to be."
Norman Peelman
> On Aug 21, 7:50 pm, Norman Peelman<npeel...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>> First, you should use the update manager. Then firefox already will be
>>> updated to version 6.
>>> Then, firefox is not in "Communication", it is in "World Wide Web" as you
>>> might expect - but it's actually easier to use the search box on all
>>> packages instead of browsing for it.
>>
>>> If you can't figure it out I can't help you.
>>> But I really have to wonder what kind of programmer when you are so
>>> reluctant to learning new stuff.
>>
>> reluctance is not his problem.
>>
>> --
>> Norman
>> Registered Linux user #461062
>> AMD64X2 6400+ Ubuntu 10.04 64bit
>
>
> YOU got me into VMware. YOU. Now you claim it's my fault?
>
I suggested VMWare to you, you're the one that can't get into it.
> Big picture: Mint *did* install and *did* work in VWware on a NON-porn
> website. It failed on porn. I gave up on Mint and Windows XP in
> emulation in VMware works fine. But I found that Windows 7 is even
> better and just as safe (since more recent)--since btw running WIndows
> XP in VMware does not mean you cannot screw up your hard drive with
> some virus I've read--so why bother with an older OS? Just stick with
> Win7 with a decent AV and firewall. And that's what I'm doing now.
>
>
> Goodbye Linux (l)user and, as usual, thanks for nothing you good for
> nothing.
>
> RL
Well Ray, that's a hell of a snip job if I ever saw one. In your
reply to Chris you saw you couldn't get Linux Mint to run in VMWare yet
here you are telling us it did install and run... hmmm. And as for
whatever sites you want to surf, that's your business. But maybe, just
maybe Linux is looking out for your health. Linux wouldn't want you to
go blind.