Microsoft: What me worry?
RonB
Tablets Eating PC Market Share With Some Fava Beans and a Nice Chianti
Driven by steep adoption rates and a proliferation of new devices, tablets
will evolve into a $35 billion market by 2012, posting 171.8 percent year-
over-year growth this year and 66.2 percent the next. That’s according to
J.P. Morgan, which sees the tablet as a meaningful revenue opportunity for
PC makers and an emerging threat, as well.
In 2010, the research outfit estimates, tablet-related cannibalization of
PCs was about 18.9 percent. And in the next two years it will nearly
double.
“We expect tablets to have an increasingly negative impact on PC
shipments,” analyst Mark Moskowitz wrote. “We are modeling more than 35
percent of tablets sold in 2012 to cannibalize PCs.
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http://tinyurl.com/6k5abq6
And guess what? Nearly none of those tablets will be running Windows. And
they won't be running Microsoft Office either. And, if Microsoft wants to
compete in the tablet market, they will actually have to *compete.* They
won't have monopoly powers to force their way into the market. No wonder
Microsoft stock is stagnate.
Maybe DFS and Flatline--- should spend more time on the real threat to
Microsoft -- smartphones, tablets and (probably) ARM netbooks.
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RonB
Registered Linux User #498581
CentOS 5.5 or VectorLinux Deluxe 6.0
Hadron
Or maybe you could recall Jed and co telling us how the pad market,
pretty much created by Apple, was going nowhere fast?
WronG : you're an idiot.
You contribute nothing to any SW whatsoever and you continually show
your cluelessness.
How many of these tables WONT sync to Windows?
Snit
PM:
> RonB <ronb02...@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> ~~
>> Tablets Eating PC Market Share With Some Fava Beans and a Nice Chianti
>>
>> Driven by steep adoption rates and a proliferation of new devices, tablets
>> will evolve into a $35 billion market by 2012, posting 171.8 percent year-
>> over-year growth this year and 66.2 percent the next. Thatąs according to
>> J.P. Morgan, which sees the tablet as a meaningful revenue opportunity for
>> PC makers and an emerging threat, as well.
>>
>> In 2010, the research outfit estimates, tablet-related cannibalization of
>> PCs was about 18.9 percent. And in the next two years it will nearly
>> double.
>>
>> łWe expect tablets to have an increasingly negative impact on PC
>> shipments,˛ analyst Mark Moskowitz wrote. łWe are modeling more than 35
>> percent of tablets sold in 2012 to cannibalize PCs.
>> ~~
>> http://tinyurl.com/6k5abq6
>>
>> And guess what? Nearly none of those tablets will be running Windows. And
>> they won't be running Microsoft Office either. And, if Microsoft wants to
>> compete in the tablet market, they will actually have to *compete.* They
>> won't have monopoly powers to force their way into the market. No wonder
>> Microsoft stock is stagnate.
>>
>> Maybe DFS and Flatline--- should spend more time on the real threat to
>> Microsoft -- smartphones, tablets and (probably) ARM netbooks.
>
> Or maybe you could recall Jed and co telling us how the pad market,
> pretty much created by Apple, was going nowhere fast?
>
> WronG : you're an idiot.
>
> You contribute nothing to any SW whatsoever and you continually show
> your cluelessness.
>
> How many of these tables WONT sync to Windows?
>
RonB used to call them "toys"... now he is braying about how these "toys"
are cannibalizing the PC market. Interesting.
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Hadron
> Hadron stated in post ikk9to$p6q$1...@news.eternal-september.org on 3/1/11 7:27
> PM:
>
>> RonB <ronb02...@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> ~~
>>> Tablets Eating PC Market Share With Some Fava Beans and a Nice Chianti
>>>
>>> Driven by steep adoption rates and a proliferation of new devices, tablets
>>> will evolve into a $35 billion market by 2012, posting 171.8 percent year-
>>> over-year growth this year and 66.2 percent the next. That¹s according to
>>> J.P. Morgan, which sees the tablet as a meaningful revenue opportunity for
>>> PC makers and an emerging threat, as well.
>>>
>>> In 2010, the research outfit estimates, tablet-related cannibalization of
>>> PCs was about 18.9 percent. And in the next two years it will nearly
>>> double.
>>>
>>> ³We expect tablets to have an increasingly negative impact on PC
>>> shipments,² analyst Mark Moskowitz wrote. ³We are modeling more than 35
>>> percent of tablets sold in 2012 to cannibalize PCs.
>>> ~~
>>> http://tinyurl.com/6k5abq6
>>>
>>> And guess what? Nearly none of those tablets will be running Windows. And
>>> they won't be running Microsoft Office either. And, if Microsoft wants to
>>> compete in the tablet market, they will actually have to *compete.* They
>>> won't have monopoly powers to force their way into the market. No wonder
>>> Microsoft stock is stagnate.
>>>
>>> Maybe DFS and Flatline--- should spend more time on the real threat to
>>> Microsoft -- smartphones, tablets and (probably) ARM netbooks.
>>
>> Or maybe you could recall Jed and co telling us how the pad market,
>> pretty much created by Apple, was going nowhere fast?
>>
>> WronG : you're an idiot.
>>
>> You contribute nothing to any SW whatsoever and you continually show
>> your cluelessness.
>>
>> How many of these tables WONT sync to Windows?
>>
>
> RonB used to call them "toys"... now he is braying about how these "toys"
> are cannibalizing the PC market. Interesting.
Was even "advocacy" ever at such a low ebb?
We have a bunch of gormless, clueless haters who all seems as clueless
as each other in Gortard, Raytard and WronG.
Then we have the dishonest liars and hypocrites that make their money
using Windows by day in Chris Liarsuck, Koehlmann and chrisv.
But WronG and Gortard take some beating.
flatfish+++
It's amazing how these Linux loons adjust their lies to match the
argument.
Rex Ballard
> ~~
> Tablets Eating PC Market Share With Some Fava Beans and a Nice Chianti
Cute title and cute picture - from the citation.
> Driven by steep adoption rates and a proliferation of new devices, tablets
> will evolve into a $35 billion market by 2012, posting 171.8 percent year-
> over-year growth this year and 66.2 percent the next. That’s according to
> J.P. Morgan, which sees the tablet as a meaningful revenue opportunity for
> PC makers and an emerging threat, as well.
I'm not sure which market J.P. Morgan is counting that makes them think that Tablet sales will only be 47 million units. This count may be based on "all purpose" tablets, and wouldn't count the really hot sellers like the Kindle, Pandigital Novel, Sony E-Book, and the Nook, and the Cruz. Linux has out-maneuvered Microsoft by specializing in specific functions. We are now seeing Linux in picture frames, news streamers, e-book readers, and of course the 7 inch and 10 inch tablets. Linux "appliances" are far more numerous than PCs.
At the same time, NetBook makers can blame Microsoft for their drop in sales. Given the choice of a fully functional Android or iPAD device which does so many things so easily with almost no restrictions, and supports bluetooth keyboards in a protective "wallet", and a NetBook running Windows 7 starter edition which immediately warns you that your resolution is too low, and won't let you start more than 3 different Windows applications, there is little enthusiasm for Windows 7 Starter crippled NetBooks.
Many corporations are also refusing to fund the usual massive upgrade to new hardware and the next generation of Windows- especially if it means they will be stuck with the Wintel monopoly for another 20 years.
Some companies are requiring the 1st level managers to fund any Windows licenses out of their own group budgets (meaning they have to decide who to lay off for the productivity hit). Some companies are even requiring those who want Windows 7 PCs to purchase them from their own funds or bonuses.
> In 2010, the research outfit estimates, tablet-related cannibalization of
> PCs was about 18.9 percent. And in the next two years it will nearly
> double.
The big question will be whether tablets will be able to completely displace full sized laptops. At the same time, the laptop and netbook makers will need to completely redefine the PC, since people will be wanting the new features they have seen on Macs and Androids - on Linux powered Notebooks and Netbooks.
One of the most radical elements of the tablet is the Portrait alignment option on the screen. For almost 40 years, most computer screens were simply souped-up televisions. The result was that you had to either look at normal pages of text such as documents and magazines in 1/2 pages, or worse. The other alternative was to squint really hard to look at what was supposed to be an 8-1/2x11 sheet of 10 point font text at 1200 DPI - as a 600 or 800 pixel high by 480 or 600 pixel wide "page" - barely enough resolution to be able to be readable. Even then, it's usually necessary to enlarge the screen.
If you have a Mac or a 1080p display, you might be able to get a 1200 pixel high display that's 1024 bits wide - almost readable.
When you have a tablet - in portrait mode - you can have a 800 pixel wide display that's 1300 pixels tall - enough for a reasonably good reading experience - at a price that is far less than even most Laptops.
> “We expect tablets to have an increasingly negative impact on PC
> shipments,” analyst Mark Moskowitz wrote. “We are modeling more than 35
> percent of tablets sold in 2012 to cannibalize PCs.
> ~~
> http://tinyurl.com/6k5abq6
> And guess what? Nearly none of those tablets will be running Windows.
Probably not
> And they won't be running Microsoft Office either.
Probably not - unless Microsoft starts offering a Linux/Android version.
> And, if Microsoft wants to compete in the tablet market,
> they will actually have to *compete.*
Probably not. They will make sure that their tablets are next to the other Windows PCs, while the Android PCs are hidden over between the cell phones and the MP3 players. If possible, in the back of the store.
On the other hand, retailers like Best Buy, Walmart, Target, and others might simply refuse to cooperate - insisting on control of their floor space. We might even see them demanding that WebOS be displayable on the machines that currently can only be displayed with Windows.
> They won't have monopoly powers to force their way into the market.
> No wonder Microsoft stock is stagnate.
Microsoft stock might also be a bit stagnate because Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer have price triggered sells which Microsoft must purchase - to keep the stock from crashing. Of course, they have to borrow money to cover these buy-backs.
> Maybe DFS and Flatline--- should spend more time on the real threat to
> Microsoft -- smartphones, tablets and (probably) ARM netbooks.
Android devices are completely blowing away the last of the Microsoft FUD. It's very hard for Microsoft to claim that Linux is far too complicated for mere mortals when Google is activating 300,000 cell phones a day, and Kindle is activating almost as many kindles per day and other Linux "appliances" are now more commonplace than Windows devices.
Windows PCs are getting more and more of a reputation as a "swiss army knife" - the one tool that does a dozen different things, but none of them very well. Linux on the other hand, has become the box of very specialized tools, each optimized to it's specific task. Do you buy the NetBook for $350 that barely lets you watch videos, barely lets you view documents, barely lets you browse the web, and barely lets you listen to music? Or do you buy the $30 MP3 player, the $120 kindle, and the $90 DVD player?
Do you buy the $600 laptop to browse the web, or do you use the Linux browser built into your $300 TV to browse the web?
And even if you decide to get the "Does everything" Laptop - do you settle for a PC that ONLY runs Windows, or do you insist on something more "state-of-the-art" like a Mac? Or maybe a Windows on Linux PC?
Rex Ballard
http://www.open4success.org
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