Newsgroup reader needed

pinnerite

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Sep 4, 2019, 10:11:23 AM9/4/19

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I have a new xiaomi mi 9 cellphone.

I have been trying to install a usable usenet reader but so far I have
been unsuccessful.

Either there were none of the buttons that their websites suggest,
possibly because this too recent a version of the OS or the setup
requirements demand things that I have never come across on a desktop
computer.

Can someone recommend something that they have found successful on an
Android 9 Pie cellphone?

Thanks in advance.

Andy Burns

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Sep 4, 2019, 10:29:51 AM9/4/19

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pinnerite wrote:

> Can someone recommend something that they have found successful on an
> Android 9 Pie cellphone?

Save yourself the hassle ... give up looking now.

Arlen G. Holder

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Sep 4, 2019, 11:09:43 AM9/4/19

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On Wed, 4 Sep 2019 15:29:48 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

> Save yourself the hassle ... give up looking now.

pinnerite

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Sep 4, 2019, 2:23:13 PM9/4/19

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I was hoping for a reply from someone with recent experience using a late
Android system.

I appreciate your attempts to help but the links cited are too old to be
useful.

I have travelled those paths already.

Arlen G. Holder

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Sep 4, 2019, 2:32:53 PM9/4/19

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On Wed, 4 Sep 2019 18:23:11 -0000 (UTC), pinnerite wrote:

> I was hoping for a reply from someone with recent experience using a late
> Android system.

Hi pinnerite,

This is an honest question given you seem to know something we don't.

I'm not sure why a later Android would have any better tools than an older
Android, where, if anything, the opposite is generally the case (albeit
only slightly so given most apps work on most versions of the OS).

What would be in the latest Android that would make developing (or running)
a newsreader any different than in the earlier Androids?

Do you know something we don't seem to know about the latest Android?
o If not, then the question seems to be OS independent, does it not?

Andy Burns

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Sep 4, 2019, 2:42:57 PM9/4/19

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pinnerite wrote:

> I was hoping for a reply

Who are you replying to? Looks like yourself ...

Mike Easter

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Sep 4, 2019, 2:44:28 PM9/4/19

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pinnerite wrote:
> I have a new xiaomi mi 9 cellphone.
>
> I have been trying to install a usable usenet reader but so far I have
> been unsuccessful.

I have an android smart phone that doesn't have a plan, but has many
useful purposes using its wifi and bluetooth and camera and mp3 player.

I have a 'dumb' legacy phone w/ some unidentified linux system
underneath and few features, but it has bluetooth and a phone plan,
which makes it useful for voice comm.

I wouldn't think of trying to use either of those devices to comm on
usenet or to write an essay or an email, as I prefer a full sized
keyboard and monitor and broadband connectivity for those purposes.

I also have a hammer I use to drive nails and a screwdriver I use for
screws. I suppose I could also use either of those tools as a weapon,
but I would prefer something more suitable for that purpose.

--
Mike Easter

Frank Slootweg

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Sep 4, 2019, 2:56:30 PM9/4/19

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IIRC, poster '123456789' (<12...@12345.com>) has been - partly -
posting with some kind of Android newsreader on some Chromebook like
system. IIRC, that was in this group, so you might want to search for
such a post.

Other than that, I can only advise to use a real CUI newsreader such
as slrn, tin, trn, etc., in the 'Termux' Linux-like environment on
Android.

Such a CUI newsreader might not be a 'sexy' as some 'native' Android
app, but considering the pathetic state of Android newsreader, I would
take *functional* over 'sexy', any day.

Some pointers on Termux et al:

Termux: Linux-like environment on Android:
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.termux>.
Has website, WiKi, FAQ, etc..

'Eli the Bearded' used Termux to compile and run trn:

From: Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com>
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Android newsreader
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2017 20:46:04 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <eli$17110...@qz.little-neck.ny.us>

<http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Celi%241711071544%40qz.little-neck.ny.us%3E>

Mike Easter

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Sep 4, 2019, 3:05:49 PM9/4/19

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Mike Easter wrote:
> I wouldn't think of trying to use either of those devices to comm on
> usenet or to write an essay or an email, as I prefer a full sized
> keyboard and monitor and broadband connectivity for those purposes.

If it were 'imperative' for me to have a mobile device and usenet, my
choice would be:

- I would need to get a different cell plan for more data
- I would use a chromebook-style netbook sized device with decent
screen & kb, such as the economical small lightweight laptop I recently
acquired as a Win10 refurb
- I would employ a USB SIM dongle for cell connectivity
- I would use a linux OS and news reader instead of Win
- I would NOT use a handheld size device

--
Mike Easter

Arlen G. Holder

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Sep 4, 2019, 3:31:25 PM9/4/19

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On Wed, 4 Sep 2019 12:05:47 -0700, Mike Easter wrote:

> - I would NOT use a handheld size device

Hi Mike,

Your point that a phone or tablet sucks as a text-input device is apropos.

To share added value to that observation, and while I also don't use the
phone (or even the iPad) for typing intensive activities, there "might" be
times when you might want to update a thread on Usenet.

Luckily, if the goal is read only, there is an easier method, which is
simply to use the web if (and only if) there is a convenient web-based
archive - which - for the Android & iOS newsgroups, there are...

o Google:
<http://tinyurl.com/comp-mobile-android>
<http://tinyurl.com/comp-mobile-ipad>
<http://tinyurl.com/misc-phone-mobile-iphone>

o NArchive:
<http://comp.mobile.android.narkive.com>
<http://comp.mobile.ipad.narkive.com>
<http://misc.phone.mobile.iphone.narkive.com>

I'm not sure about iOS (as I don't use it all that much lately now that I
have the $130 LG Stylo 3 Plus with a decent sized screen), but on Android,
it's trivial to save those URLs into a desktop shortcut folder named, for
example, "Usenet".

Recliner

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Sep 4, 2019, 5:10:59 PM9/4/19

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I use the paid version of PhoNews with my Android 9 phone. It's pretty
basic, but works. It didn't change with the move to Pie.

123456789

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Sep 4, 2019, 7:37:54 PM9/4/19

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Frank Slootweg wrote:

> pinnerite <pinn...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Can someone recommend something that they have found
>> successful on an Android 9 Pie cellphone?

> IIRC, poster '123456789' (<12...@12345.com>) has been -
> partly - posting with some kind of Android newsreader on
> some Chromebook like system. IIRC, that was in this
> group, so you might want to search for such a post.

Good memory.

On my Chromebook I'm using an Android Windows emulator
(CrossOver) to run a Windows newsreader (SeaMonkey).
Unfortunately it requires a x86 processor which his phone is
unlikely to have.

To the OP: On my Galaxy Tab S4 tablet (Android 9) I use the
Groundhog newsreader which works fine with no problems. I
also use it on my Motorola phone (Android 7). But
it is very old and basic and no longer in the Play Store.
Googling may help if you find nothing better. But IMO there are
no good Android newsreaders. Good luck...

BTW Android 9 broke my NNTP Newsreader app (paid $10 for it
years ago) so one more down the drain (sigh).

Joerg Lorenz

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Sep 5, 2019, 2:38:57 AM9/5/19

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Am 04.09.19 um 16:11 schrieb pinnerite:

> I have a new xiaomi mi 9 cellphone.
>
> I have been trying to install a usable usenet reader but so far I have
> been unsuccessful.

Usenet is dead.
No one spends resources to develop a reasonable usenet-client for the
Android-platform. Writing texts for the usenet on a small smartphone is
not really appealing anyway.

Lu Wei

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Sep 5, 2019, 3:16:11 AM9/5/19

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Voice input is quite fast now.

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Regards,
Lu Wei
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PGP: 0xA12FEF7592CCE1EA

Lu Wei

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Sep 5, 2019, 3:22:41 AM9/5/19

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pinnerite <pinn...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
> I have a new xiaomi mi 9 cellphone.I have been trying to install a usable usenet reader but so far I have been unsuccessful. Either there were none of the buttons that their websites suggest, possibly because this too recent a version of the OS or the setup requirements demand things that I have never come across on a desktop computer. Can someone recommend something that they have found successful on an Android 9 Pie cellphone?Thanks in advance.

Have you tried this " NewsGroup Reader"?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.piaohong.newsgroup
--
Greeting from Android

----Android NewsGroup Reader----
http://usenet.sinaapp.com/

Libor Striz

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Sep 5, 2019, 6:29:48 AM9/5/19

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Lu Wei <luwe...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
>
I have issues with scrolling of long messages there.

It was Ok, but issues started appearing later,
not sure if by upgrading to A9 on my Xiaomi MI A2.

--
Poutnik ( the Wanderer )

Recliner

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Sep 5, 2019, 7:47:42 AM9/5/19

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Lu Wei <luwe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> pinnerite <pinn...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
>> I have a new xiaomi mi 9 cellphone.I have been trying to install a
>> usable usenet reader but so far I have been unsuccessful. Either there
>> were none of the buttons that their websites suggest, possibly because
>> this too recent a version of the OS or the setup requirements demand
>> things that I have never come across on a desktop computer. Can someone
>> recommend something that they have found successful on an Android 9 Pie
>> cellphone?Thanks in advance.
>
> Have you tried this " NewsGroup Reader"?
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.piaohong.newsgroup

I used that in the past, but it ceased to work on Android 8. That's why I
switched to PhoNews, which works on 8 and 9.

pinnerite

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Sep 5, 2019, 8:02:37 AM9/5/19

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Yes I do.

My previous phone used Android 4.4 this one has 9.
A usenet application that was able to be configured on the former could
not be on the latter because the necessary items would not display on the
screen.

I am not an expert but I recognise that others may have more experience.

Anyway I have now installed NZB360 but am unable to get through the
settings.

A mobile phone is very different from a domestic PC wired or wireless.
This means any assumptions I make are more likely to be wrong than right.

So, in trying to enable SABnzbd, the first question is 'Primary
Connection Address'. What does that mean when one one's phone will be
changing locations and, on wifi be allocated a different ip address by
dhcp on every change of location.

I tried using my local router's address but that doesn't work. If I
cannot get beyond what appears to be a simple question, I might as well
throw in the towel.

pinnerite

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Sep 5, 2019, 8:10:00 AM9/5/19

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On Thu, 05 Sep 2019 15:22:35 +0800, Lu Wei wrote:

> pinnerite <pinn...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
>> I have a new xiaomi mi 9 cellphone.I have been trying to install a
>> usable usenet reader but so far I have been unsuccessful. Either there
>> were none of the buttons that their websites suggest, possibly because
>> this too recent a version of the OS or the setup requirements demand
>> things that I have never come across on a desktop computer. Can someone
>> recommend something that they have found successful on an Android 9 Pie
>> cellphone?Thanks in advance.
>
> Have you tried this " NewsGroup Reader"?
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.piaohong.newsgroup

This was the one comes with a warning that it might not work on some
systems. The donfiguration details would not even display on my phone. I
wrote to the author but not even an acknowledgment.

pinnerite

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Sep 5, 2019, 8:12:26 AM9/5/19

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On Wed, 04 Sep 2019 18:32:53 +0000, Arlen G. Holder wrote:

Having now read further replies to my question. I you read them too you
will find the answer to your questions above.

pinnerite

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Sep 5, 2019, 8:13:39 AM9/5/19

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I've copied the above and will follow it up. Thank you.

Frank Slootweg

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Sep 5, 2019, 8:14:42 AM9/5/19

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123456789 <12...@12345.com> wrote:
> Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > pinnerite <pinn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Can someone recommend something that they have found
> >> successful on an Android 9 Pie cellphone?
>
> > IIRC, poster '123456789' (<12...@12345.com>) has been -
> > partly - posting with some kind of Android newsreader on
> > some Chromebook like system. IIRC, that was in this
> > group, so you might want to search for such a post.
>
> Good memory.
>
> On my Chromebook I'm using an Android Windows emulator
> (CrossOver) to run a Windows newsreader (SeaMonkey).
> Unfortunately it requires a x86 processor which his phone is
> unlikely to have.

Well, apparently my memory is not *that* good, because I thought it
was an Android newsreader, not a Windows one! :-)

Processor type, x86 versus ARM, can indeed be a problem.

Searching Google Play on 'windows emulator' reveals very little useful
stuff (other than CrossOver). Most results are *simulators* (i.e. fake
UIs), not (real) emulators. The only somewhat useful emulators are
DosBox emulators, i.e. a (MS-)DOS like environment, not a (MS-)Windows
like one. But I doubt that pinnerite would be interested in trying out
some DOS newsreaders, not to mention that they probably need all kinds
of magic to use an Internet connection.

So that leaves your recommendation:

pinnerite

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Sep 5, 2019, 8:15:12 AM9/5/19

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If I cannot get anywhere with NZB360 I will try PhoNews.

Thank you.

Lu Wei

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Sep 5, 2019, 8:21:11 AM9/5/19

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Libor Striz <poutnik4R...@gmailCAPITALS.com.INVALID> Wrote
in message:
> Lu Wei <luwe...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:> I have issues with scrolling of long messages there.It was Ok, but issues started appearing later, not sure if by upgrading to A9 on my Xiaomi MI A2.-- Poutnik ( the Wanderer )

The scrolling is normal in dark theme, or could be circumvented by
selecting (hold down) before scrolling. I am on android
9.

An annoyance is that it inserts its dead web site at the end of
every post.

Lu Wei

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Sep 5, 2019, 8:39:40 AM9/5/19

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pinnerite <pinn...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:

> On Thu, 05 Sep 2019 15:22:35 +0800, Lu Wei wrote:> pinnerite <pinn...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:>> I have a new xiaomi mi 9 cellphone.I have been trying to install a>> usable usenet reader but so far I have been unsuccessful. Either there>> were none of the buttons that their websites suggest, possibly because>> this too recent a version of the OS or the setup requirements demand>> things that I have never come across on a desktop computer. Can someone>> recommend something that they have found successful on an Android 9 Pie>> cellphone?Thanks in advance.> > Have you tried this " NewsGroup Reader"?> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.piaohong.newsgroupThis was the one comes with a warning that it might not work on some systems. The donfiguration details would not even display on my phone. I wrote to the author but not even an acknowledgment.

The development seems to be ceased,
as it's still pushing its
dead site.

Joerg Lorenz

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Sep 5, 2019, 12:15:56 PM9/5/19

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Am 05.09.19 um 14:39 schrieb Lu Wei:

As I said before: There is no newsreader that deserve the name.
Your sig is proof of that.

Eli the Bearded

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Sep 5, 2019, 8:04:21 PM9/5/19

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In comp.mobile.android, Mike Easter <Mi...@ster.invalid> wrote:
> Mike Easter wrote:
>> I wouldn't think of trying to use either of those devices to comm on
>> usenet or to write an essay or an email, as I prefer a full sized
>> keyboard and monitor and broadband connectivity for those purposes.
>
> If it were 'imperative' for me to have a mobile device and usenet, my
> choice would be:
>
> - I would need to get a different cell plan for more data
> - I would use a chromebook-style netbook sized device with decent
> screen & kb, such as the economical small lightweight laptop I recently
> acquired as a Win10 refurb

[snip]

Two solutions, both of which I have used:

1. Install Termux and build tools, compile a legacy Unix shell
newsreader from source, then run that from termux. I used trn4.

2. Install SSH client of choice, I use termux's ssh, then ssh to a Linux
jumphost and run a legacy Unix shell newsreader there. I do this now[*].

The use of a single host ssh'ed into from my home computer or my
cellphone removes all article read state synchonization issues by having
only a single location for that.

ssh doesn't use a ton of network.

Elijah
------
[*] Actually the news reading host is NetBSD.

Lu Wei

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Sep 6, 2019, 7:43:36 AM9/6/19

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Better than nothing :)

Frank Slootweg

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Sep 6, 2019, 8:31:31 AM9/6/19

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I noted that you use Hamster. Perhaps you can get Hamster to strip the
unwanted/incorrect ad before doing the actual posting.

Lu Wei

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Sep 7, 2019, 1:47:52 AM9/7/19

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On 2019-9-6 20:31, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>
> I noted that you use Hamster. Perhaps you can get Hamster to strip the
> unwanted/incorrect ad before doing the actual posting.
>

Yes I think so. If I continue to use the app more, I will do it.

Lu Wei

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Nov 20, 2019, 6:24:59 AM11/20/19

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Just surprised to find Piaohong released a new version. Paging and
dragging bugs fixed. And the tagging link also updated to:
https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html
If you would not visit Google play, that is the direct download link.

Andy Burns

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Nov 20, 2019, 6:33:07 AM11/20/19

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Lu Wei wrote:

> Just surprised to find Piaohong released a new version.

encouraging, and discouraging at the same time...

fixed 23 bugs
added 56 bugs

probably lost in (google) translation

Arlen Holder

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Nov 20, 2019, 7:38:14 AM11/20/19

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I don't use it but I'm all for someone who updates any Android newsreader.

See also:
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/H0ngEWe-818/NyWE69lUAgAJ>
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/Oqc4fylq8yI/7DehU3rtCQAJ>

Lu Wei

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Nov 20, 2019, 10:06:18 AM11/20/19

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No problem in translation. Anyway it shows the author is "alive", so
there's hope the new bugs be fixed sooner or later. I did not encounter
any apparent bugs during my trial usage.

123456789

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Nov 20, 2019, 11:49:58 AM11/20/19

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Andy Burns wrote:
> Lu Wei wrote:

>> Just surprised to find Piaohong released a new version.
>>
> encouraging, and discouraging at the same time...

> fixed 23 bugs added 56 bugs

I have the paid version. It has problems with my Android 5
tablet and is quite unusable with my Android 9 tablet. But
strangely it still works just fine on my 2019 Amazon Fire OS
(Android) tablets. Go figure.

Will have to try the new version (fingers crossed)...

123456789

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Nov 20, 2019, 12:39:46 PM11/20/19

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Nope. Still get 'not optimized warning' (Android 9 tablet).
Carriage returns are missing from the reply screen turning
it into one jumbled paragraph mess. And some scrolling is
still broken. Ah well, Groundhog still works...

FWIW I also have PhoNews and it works but boy do you
have to do a lot of scrolling and page turning just for
normal use. As I've said many times all Android newsreaders
suck. Please prove me wrong (hoping that you do)...

VanguardLH

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Nov 20, 2019, 6:16:27 PM11/20/19

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Lu Wei <luwe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Just surprised to find Piaohong released a new version. Paging and
> dragging bugs fixed. And the tagging link also updated to:
> https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html
> If you would not visit Google play, that is the direct download link.

The home page listed for the app at Google's Play Store points to
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.piaohong.newsgroup,
but that gives "The website you visited does not exist! Please check
that the URL you entered is incorrect" (in Chinese). The link you give
is to Amazon AWS, a CDN (Content Network Delivery) service; see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Web_Services.

Your link has the site mention:
4. Fixed the other 23 bugs.
5. Added 56 bugs.

Sometimes translation from Chinese to English leaves out the connotative
meaning of a phrase. His site meant to say he *added* 56 bugs?

Old version: 1.65, released 09-Nov-2014
New version: 2.00, released 20-Nov-2019

That's 5 years between updates. Also:

Old version: Requires Android 3.0, and up.
New version: Requires Android 8.0, and up.

Such a huge jump in OS requirements means a major code change, yet the
"What's New" for the new version describes the updates are minor (no bug
database to view). Piahong just cut off 45% of Android users.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/921152/mobile-android-version-share-worldwide/

123456789

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Nov 20, 2019, 10:09:39 PM11/20/19

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VanguardLH wrote:

> New version: 2.00, released 20-Nov-2019

My app says version 2.02 last updated 28-Oct-2019 ???

> New version: Requires Android 8.0, and up. Piahong just

> cut off 45% of Android users.

That's the lucky 45%. After trying the new version on both
my phone and tablet (Android 9) and finding the same old
bugs I gave up in disgust...

123456789

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Nov 20, 2019, 10:31:52 PM11/20/19

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123456789 wrote:
> VanguardLH wrote:

>> New version: 2.00, released 20-Nov-2019

> My app says version 2.02 last updated 28-Oct-2019 ???

Just figured out the discrepancy. I'm using the paid buggy
no-ads version of the app whereas you're reporting on the
free buggy ad filled version...

Andy Burns

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Nov 21, 2019, 4:55:49 AM11/21/19

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VanguardLH wrote:

> Old version: Requires Android 3.0, and up.
> New version: Requires Android 8.0, and up.
>
> Such a huge jump in OS requirements means a major code change, yet the
> "What's New" for the new version describes the updates are minor (no bug
> database to view). Piahong just cut off 45% of Android users.
>
> https://www.statista.com/statistics/921152/mobile-android-version-share-worldwide/

I'm not going to pay $708 to look at a 'premium' graph

Google's stats don't include 10 yet, but it'll be tiny so far, only
supporting 8+ does seem rather silly.

<https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards>

VanguardLH

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Nov 21, 2019, 5:32:53 AM11/21/19

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Andy Burns <use...@andyburns.uk> wrote:

> VanguardLH wrote:
>
>> Old version: Requires Android 3.0, and up.
>> New version: Requires Android 8.0, and up.
>>
>> Such a huge jump in OS requirements means a major code change, yet the
>> "What's New" for the new version describes the updates are minor (no bug
>> database to view). Piahong just cut off 45% of Android users.
>>
>> https://www.statista.com/statistics/921152/mobile-android-version-share-worldwide/
>
> I'm not going to pay $708 to look at a 'premium' graph

I paid NOTHING just to look at the graph in the provided URL link. When
I revisited the web page, now it overlays an ad promo and disable the
chart. Guess they're caching IP addresses for awhile to see who
revisits their site.

I just did a simple online Google search on "android version
marketshare". I just did the search again, and found yet another chart
at the Statista site. However, this time instead of clicking on the
search result that points to the site, I clicked the down-arrow to show
the cached copy, and that one showed the chart.

Another search hit was:

https://www.appbrain.com/stats/top-android-sdk-versions

where I just clicked on the search hit and it displayed okay. It might
also get blocked later, and I'd have to look at the cached copy. There
are other stats available online showing marketshares for various
things, and I don't pay for any of them.

> Google's stats don't include 10 yet, but it'll be tiny so far, only
> supporting 8+ does seem rather silly.
>
> <https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards>

Didn't know about that one. That one came up later in the search
results despite Google was the search engine.

Andy Burns

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Nov 21, 2019, 6:36:19 AM11/21/19

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VanguardLH wrote:

> Andy Burns wrote:

>
>> VanguardLH wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.statista.com/statistics/921152/mobile-android-version-share-worldwide/
>>
>> I'm not going to pay $708 to look at a 'premium' graph
>
> I paid NOTHING just to look at the graph in the provided URL link. When
> I revisited the web page, now it overlays an ad promo and disable the
> chart. Guess they're caching IP addresses for awhile to see who
> revisits their site.

It put on the overlay immediately for me, actually it was simple enough
to hide it with uBO's element zapper.

>> <https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards>
>
> Didn't know about that one.

It's the standard one that google have released for years, actually this
site presents the historic info from google's pie chart in a useful way

<https://www.bidouille.org/misc/androidcharts>

Lu Wei

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Nov 21, 2019, 7:44:22 PM11/21/19

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On 2019-11-21 1:39, 123456789 wrote:
> Nope. Still get 'not optimized warning' (Android 9 tablet).
> Carriage returns are missing from the reply screen turning
> it into one jumbled paragraph mess.

Here my phone's input methods provide carriage return. Aren't English
input methods the same?

> And some scrolling is still broken.

Under what kind of occasion?

Lu Wei

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Nov 21, 2019, 8:11:19 PM11/21/19

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On 2019-11-21 7:16, VanguardLH wrote:
> The home page listed for the app at Google's Play Store points to
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.piaohong.newsgroup,
> but that gives "The website you visited does not exist! Please check
> that the URL you entered is incorrect" (in Chinese). The link you give
> is to Amazon AWS, a CDN (Content Network Delivery) service; see
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Web_Services.
>

I updated through Google play; That CDN site provides direct apk file
downloading, which is normal for chinese phones because they usually
strip off Google service and replace with their own.

> Your link has the site mention:
> 4. Fixed the other 23 bugs.
> 5. Added 56 bugs.
>
> Sometimes translation from Chinese to English leaves out the connotative
> meaning of a phrase. His site meant to say he *added* 56 bugs?
>

Yes. Let me translate the change log:
1. Fixed dragging (or pulling) in day theme.
2. Fixed scrolling and paging.
3. Support higher Android version.
4. Fixed other 23 bugs.
5. Added 56 bugs.

> Old version: 1.65, released 09-Nov-2014
> New version: 2.00, released 20-Nov-2019
>
> That's 5 years between updates. Also:
>
> Old version: Requires Android 3.0, and up.
> New version: Requires Android 8.0, and up.
>
> Such a huge jump in OS requirements means a major code change, yet the
> "What's New" for the new version describes the updates are minor (no bug
> database to view). Piahong just cut off 45% of Android users.
>
> https://www.statista.com/statistics/921152/mobile-android-version-share-worldwide/
>

I guess it's not a minor bug fix but some rewrite. How could anyone
intentionally *Add" bugs?

Libor Striz

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Nov 21, 2019, 10:40:28 PM11/21/19

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Lu Wei <luwe...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r

> On 2019-11-21 1:39, 123456789 wrote:> Nope. Still get 'not optimized warning' (Android 9 tablet).> Carriage returns are missing from the reply screen turning> it into one jumbled paragraph mess. Here my phone's input methods provide carriage return. Aren't English input methods the same?> And some scrolling is still broken. Under what kind of occasion?-- Regards,Lu WeiIM: xmpp:luwe...@riotcat.orgPGP: 0xA12FEF7592CCE1EA

The is the carriage mess 123456789 write about. Your quoted post
is untouched by any editing.

Libor Striz

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Nov 21, 2019, 10:44:05 PM11/21/19

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Lu Wei <luwe...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:

> How could anyone intentionally *Add" bugs?

It may mean added=registered newly found bugs.

123456789

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Nov 21, 2019, 11:29:43 PM11/21/19

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Lu Wei wrote:
> 123456789 wrote:

>> Nope. Still get 'not optimized warning' (Android 9
>> tablet). Carriage returns are missing from the reply
>> screen turning it into one jumbled paragraph mess.

> Here my phone's input methods provide carriage return.
> Aren't English input methods the same?

See Libor Striz's post for an example. I get the exact same
thing.

What is really weird (to me anyway) is that the app screws
up on all my Android 5 thru 9 devices but yet works fine on
all my Amazon Fire OS tablets (which I believe are based on
Android 5 thru 7). I'm still running the old version 1.65 on
them and for obvious reasons I don't plant to update. (The
Amazon store doesn't carry the app but I originally
sideloaded it from my backup apk archive.)

>> And some scrolling is still broken.

> Under what kind of occasion?

On some screens if the text goes below the bottom of the
screen it won't scroll down. Again only on the Android
devices and not the Fire devices...

Lu Wei

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Nov 22, 2019, 9:16:19 PM11/22/19

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On 2019-11-22 12:29, 123456789 wrote:
> Lu Wei wrote:
>> 123456789 wrote:
>
>>> Nope. Still get 'not optimized warning' (Android 9 tablet). Carriage
>>> returns are missing from the reply screen turning it into one jumbled
>>> paragraph mess.
>
>> Here my phone's input methods provide carriage return. Aren't English
>> input methods the same?
>
> See Libor Striz's post for an example. I get the exact same
> thing.
>

Yes I get that bug too. Unbearable.

Arlen Holder

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See also this new thread on this old topic:
o NNTP Android Client
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/4jg0n79iZBc>

That thread does contain some new links, I think.