Automatic deletion of attachments and embedded files?
MaryL
files when I trash the original message? For example, friends forwards a
great many attachments and sometimes includes pictures within her messages.
Eventually, I end up with a huge number of items in c:\program
files\qualcomm\eudora\myname\attachments and in c:\program
files\qualcomm\eudora\myname\embedded. I can go through and manually delete
them, but I am sure there must be an option to do this automatically. Under
Incoming Mail, I have checked delete from server when emptied from trash. I
did *not* check leave mail on server, and I have "0" days set for delete
from server. Obviously, this is not the correct way because nothing is
deleted from attachments and embedded files.
I am using Eudora 7.1.0.9 - Sponsored Mode.
Thanks,
MaryL
John H Meyers
> I have checked delete from server when emptied from trash.
That option is for deleting from *server* any messages
that were actually left on the server, after
(a) deleting in Eudora (move to Trash mailbox)
(b) empty Trash in Eudora
(c) perform next "new mail" check from POP server
However, that has no effect on locally saved attachments;
the option which deletes those is
"Attachments" > "Delete attachments when emptying trash"
This option might not affect "embedded" files, however;
there was another recent discussion about that,
in which it was reported that no deletion occurred,
although it would seem logical to have included them
in the "trash" options, if there were no separate option.
Did Brana say he'd modified a plug-in to make up for that?
(sorry I forgot, and am out of time to research just now).
The reason I don't follow what happens to my "embedded" files
is that I intentionally wipe them all, every time I'm about to
back up my Eudora folder (I just happen to be interested only in
saving information, not "backgrounds" and miscellaneous icons,
which is basically all the embedded stuff I get,
however unusual my preference may be :)
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John H Meyers
attachments and embedded files (belonging to messages
that were deleted without corresponding deletion
of attachments and/or embedded files),
Brana Bujenovic indicated that his "Attacher" plugin
was already capable of identifying "orphaned" attachments,
and might eventually be augmented to do the same
for orphaned embedded files;
see his last two posts in this thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows/browse_thread/thread/9fdd3b8de097c550
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MaryL
"Dennis Lee Bieber" <wlf...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:Bh4yh.19345$pQ3....@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 04:01:47 -0600, "MaryL"
> <stan...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> declaimed the following in
> comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows:
>
>> Is there a setting that would automatically delete attachments and
>> embedded
>> files when I trash the original message? For example, friends forwards a
>
> (I'm presuming v7.x is similar to v6.x)
>
> Tools/
> Options/
> Attachments
> ...
> [x] delete attachments when emptying trash
> ...
> Delete automatic attachments:
> ...
> (*) when message deleted from trash
>
>
> Note that, in both cases, you must first "delete" the message
> itself, and then empty the Eudora trash.
>
> Also, since v6.something, Eudora won't delete the attachments, but
> instead puts them in the Windows recycle bin... So you have to empty
> THAT too...
> --
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Thanks, John and Dennis. I just got home from work and haven't had time to
review Brana's information, but I will do that this evening. In the
meantime, I used the information both of you provided, then opened some
email that had attachments and one with embedded graphics. I deleted both
then emptied the trash. In these cases, at least, both the embedded images
and the attachments were trashed. That will be a big help if it works for
all email. I also don't want all those graphics that appear as embedded
files. However, I emptied both the attachments and the embedded file two
days ago and I already have 35 embedded images saved and 5 attachments! I
have a lot of friends who seem to think it's "the thing to do" to forward
everything that hits their desks. Much more important, I am now getting
daily spam that seems to contain viruses, worms, and trojans. I never open
them and delete them sight-unseen. I noticed, though, that their
attachments appared in my attachments folder even though they had not ben
opened. I assume that is why AVG and Avast! were picking up on all these
viruses. I do delete them as soon as I click on Eudora to check mail, and I
always empty trash and compact mailboxes at the same time. However, I did
not realize that I would also need to empty the recycle bin. I had not
noticed that.
Again, thanks for the help!
MaryL
John H Meyers
> since v6.something, Eudora won't delete the attachments,
> but instead puts them in the Windows recycle bin...
> So you have to empty THAT too...
Re-reading the old thread reminded me
of the motivation for this behavior:
If you have *copied* any message,
then delete one of the two (either original or copy),
and if your "delete attachments when emptying trash" is set,
then your attachments are gone, even though there is
still a saved original message to which they belong.
The "recycle bin" staging gives you a last chance
to save any still-wanted attachments from oblivion
(but if only you realize in time what's happening :)
I understand that your desires are in conflict with that,
but since purging files (or recycle bin) is easy
and recovery of lost files is hard, evidently
the decision was made to favor slightly retarding
the final deletion from the system,
to allow that "last chance."
An additional similar issue arises if you have set
"Skip [downloading] of messages over [some size]"
and some large message is indeed limited to just
the "top lines" preview that Eudora then downloads;
if you later retrieve the complete message from the server,
you are naturally inclined to trash the earlier
"top lines" download, at which point, if the related
"delete from server when emptied from trash" is set,
the original message is deleted from the server,
even if it's one which you didn't really want trashed,
because it was a "good" message which you wanted
to download to another computer (or view via "webmail" etc.),
which is why you might have been "leaving mail on server"
in the first place. The same also happens for any copied
message where one copy is later trashed, but there's
no "safety net" in this case, because there's usually
no "un-recycle" capability on the POP server's side.
I stand updated by MaryL on one more point:
In that previous thread where Dr. Guthrie complained
of his "embedded" attachments never being deleted,
which I also assumed to be a general problem needing solution,
he was in fact using IMAP all the while,
so it's dawned on me that POP behavior
could well be different, as MaryL was just reporting:
"I opened some email that had attachments
and one with embedded graphics. I deleted both
then emptied the trash. In these cases, at least,
both the embedded images _and_ the attachments were trashed."
I just sent myself an embedded image and then trashed
my received (POP) and sent copies -- sure enough,
two "embedded" images then vanished,
immediately after I emptied my trash
(but not a third, which may have come along
with an initial *partial* download that I also trashed,
so give Eudora an "almost right" grade on that :)
This certainly does make more sense,
and shows that Eudora is after all really more sensible,
at least most of the time when using POP,
although IMAP doesn't apparently seem
to be as well accounted for.
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