Problems with Zhuyin input

[Tommy]

Dear everybody,

I'm masochistically trying to learn to type with zhuyin, and I have
run into two problems that I'd appreciate your input on.

First, using the Caps lock to switch to english characters: Is there a
way to turn this on in some menu I haven't found yet? I know I can do
this with the standard mac Japanese input, and with QIM, but is it
possible with the standard mac Zhuyin input? If not, is there an
alternate Zhuyin input software for mac that makes this possible?

Second, using shortcuts, especially cmd+c and cmd+v for copying and
pasting for some mysterious reason doesn't work. Putting it on
capslock doesn't work, nor does using shift+cmd+c as was suggested in
this thread: http://groups.google.com/group/chinesemac/browse_thread/thread/263a33038bd2b574?fwc=1
.

Obviously, switching IMEs is the solution for both these problems, but
as we all know that's not always the best solution.

Ok, thanks in advance for your help,
Tom in Taiwan

[analogue40]

Hi Tommy,

I know that you said you don't want to switch IMEs, but the built in
Zhuyin really isn't very good. I learnt Chinese in Taiwan (I'm
currently in Kaohsiung) and so learnt Zhuyin instead of Pinyin, I used
the built in Zhuyin IME for a while before discovering Yahoo KeyKey
(which does switch to English when caps lock is enabled) and as far as
I know most Taiwanese Mac users use Key key over the built in IME - I
wrote a short blog post about it last year:
http://chinesehacks.com/software/yahoo-key-key-input-method/

I also made a cheat sheet for Pinyin/Zhuyin a few weeks ago that you
might find useful: http://chinesehacks.com/resources/free-pinyin-zhuyin-cheat-sheet/

Let me know if you need any help,

Dave

On Mar 31, 10:00 pm, Tommy <tom.newh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear everybody,
>
> I'm masochistically trying to learn to type with zhuyin, and I have
> run into two problems that I'd appreciate your input on.
>
> First, using the Caps lock to switch to english characters: Is there a
> way to turn this on in some menu I haven't found yet? I know I can do
> this with the standard mac Japanese input, and with QIM, but is it
> possible with the standard mac Zhuyin input? If not, is there an
> alternate Zhuyin input software for mac that makes this possible?
>
> Second, using shortcuts, especially cmd+c and cmd+v for copying and
> pasting for some mysterious reason doesn't work. Putting it on
> capslock doesn't work, nor does using shift+cmd+c as was suggested in

> this thread:http://groups.google.com/group/chinesemac/browse_thread/thread/263a33...

[Tommy]

Awesome thanks so much for the info. I hadn't even heard of that IME
until now. I installed it earlier today and it seems to be doing just
what I need it to. I also installed the OpenVanilla IME
http://openvanilla.org/index-en.php . Which actually does the same
thing, at least with regards to the <capslock> key. i'll play with
both for a while before I settle on which one to use.

I suppose this is more a problem with not (yet) being able to read the
options menus, but do you know if there is a feature in Keykey that
allows you to enter the Zhuyin "clusters" for multiple kanji and then
have it convert? For instance, I'd like to be able to type ㄓㄨㄥㄨㄣ and
then hit enter or spacebar and have it return 中文, as opposed to the
"default" functionality of KeyKey which seems to be to input zhuyin
clusters character-by-character, and also include tone marks for each
character i.e. ㄓㄨㄥ <enter> ㄨㄣˊ<enter>. Do you see what I mean? I
suppose being forced to enter the tone will help me remember them, but
since I'm a super-slow typer at this point, the extra keystrokes are a
bit of a hassle.

Also, is there a way you know of to make KeyKey *not* convert to a
character (i.e. keep the zhuyin as it was entered)? IIRC, with the
built in IME you just hit <enter>, while <spacebar> will convert the
zhuyin to a character. In KeyKey it seems that both <spacebar> and
<enter> have the same function of converting to a character.

Thanks so much for the help.

Tom