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[Dr.C.S.R. Prabhu]

Vasanas drive Karma of a person  in a given Varna.He attains perfection in  fulfillment in his own Svadharma without attachment through Karma Yoga  . He can progress parallely in spiritual path ,independent of his profession .We have many examples like Dharma Vyadha,Valmiki  or many saints who were enlightened even though not belonging to Brahmana Varna.This is my understanding. 

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• Guna and Varnas - 3 Updates
• A suggestion for IA - 4 Updates
• Valmiki Ramayana Text- Help to do word-search - 3 Updates
• Bhartṛhari: Śatakatrakya - 2 Updates
• A distraction from the Coronavirus - 1 Update
• Continuing my Krishna verses - 3 Updates
• Dr.Raghavan's reference to Patanjali - 2 Updates

Guna and Varnas

"Naveen Badrinarayan | Dheya.com" <naveen.ba...@dheya.com>: Mar 30 08:15AM -0700 In the BhagwadGita Chapter 18, each personality or temperament is made up of the three gunas viz. Sattva, Rajas, and Tamas. The 4 types of classified people as per their behavior and qualities are the Brahmana, Kshatriya , Vaishya and Shudra. The verse 45 says that each person must perform their duties as per their own nature, meaning the shudra should perform service with full dedication and devotion which will lead the shudra to fulfilled life and will eventually extinguish the "vasanas" due to which the shudra is having this temperament at all of more of Tamas, little of rajas and very little of sattva. The same is the case with a Brahmana, Kshatriya and Vaishya all are acting according to their "vasanas" induced temeraments and as long as they adhere to their own nature and act accordingly, they reach fulfillment. Is it that as a Shudra gets fulfilled, they transcend to become more like a Vaishya --> Kshatriya--> Brahmana or is it that irrespective of what varna you are , you can directly reach the highest state of fulfillment as you extinguish your own vasanas.   There is a bit of a dilemna here, which needs clarification.

K S Kannan <ks.kann...@gmail.com>: Mar 30 10:16PM +0530 Read all this also with स्वकर्मणा तमभ्यर्च्य सिद्धिं विन्दति मानवः   On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:13 PM 'Naveen Badrinarayan | Dheya.com' via > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bvparishat/4ad58b94-ca25-40c0-a83b-c962669bd8e6%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bvparishat/4ad58b94-ca25-40c0-a83b-c962669bd8e6%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > .   -- Dr. K.S.Kannan D.Litt.   ​Sant Rajinder Singh Ji Maharaj Chair Professor, IIT-Madras.   Senior Fellow, ICSSR, New Delhi.   Academic Director, Swadeshi Indology.   Member, Academic Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthana.   Nominated Member, IIAS, Shimla. Former Professor, CAHC, Jain University, Bangalore.   Former Director, Karnataka Samskrit University, Bangalore.   Former Head, Dept. of Sanskrit, The National Colleges, Bangalore.

Nagaraj Paturi <nagara...@gmail.com>: Mar 31 12:43AM +0530 There is an old BVP thread on this topic:   https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!msg/bvparishat/x1g9RiSxyfg/zUj973a_DwAJ

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A suggestion for IA

K S Kannan <ks.kann...@gmail.com>: Mar 30 10:13PM +0530 See this: http://corpus.quran.com/ontology.jsp. Go through all utilities provided/possible there. The question now is:   Has anybody attempted this kind of presentation to any Hindu text(s) : all these - the ontology of concepts, the text in print, simultaneous reading aloud (voice record) of the original, transliteration in various scripts, translations into various languages, grammar and dictionary alongside, commentaries and exegesis, modern expositions (books and articles on related themes), good and bad, with due annotations, diagrammatic representations, (scanned/photographed)manuscript resources, etc. etc. etc. - all given in a plain fashion, &/or as scalable hypertexts/hyperlinks ? (The intention is not to overwhelm the reader, but to summon whatever he needs/likes/wants - all at his beck & call : all at a mere press of the button).   Of course, Islam and Christianity or religions of single books. Hence their task is relatively easy. But Hinduism has a rich repertoire of literature spanning vast aeons. And *every text of Hinduism* needs this appurtenance in all detail.   The patterns of tools/utilities/services made available in this site can help the study of Hinduism too. All the same, newer/different techniques may be desirable too.   Can Indic Academy take this up for even one small scriptural text? Of course, IIT-K, Samskrita Bharati, UoH, and a few other institutions (even in the West) have made their excellent attempts with varying agenda and varying levels/degrees of success (and they need to be catalogued too, and their progress to be regularly reported too - in some abiding sites).   Ultimately, there should be nothing wanting for an earnest reader that seeks to know.   By the way, are there better sites than the one cited at the outset for any (other) text?   -- Dr. K.S.Kannan D.Litt.   Sant Rajinder Singh Ji Maharaj Chair Professor, IIT-Madras.   Senior Fellow, ICSSR, New Delhi.   Academic Director, Swadeshi Indology.   Member, Academic Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthana.   Nominated Member, IIAS, Shimla. Former Professor, CAHC, Jain University, Bangalore.   Former Director, Karnataka Samskrit University, Bangalore.   Former Head, Dept. of Sanskrit, The National Colleges, Bangalore.

Amba Kulkarni <ambap...@gmail.com>: Mar 30 10:33PM +0530 Namaste Prof Kannan,   I think the Narada Bhakti suutra at IIT Kanpur's Gita supersite is an excellent example of the concept map.   It is available at https://www.gitasupersite.iitk.ac.in/narada_bhakti_sutra   Best regards, Amba     > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bvparishat/CAN47gm7EKsAPF7DABkVTUWjm7mJyqF6-a3FaWPwLPmrN5ZhQAA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bvparishat/CAN47gm7EKsAPF7DABkVTUWjm7mJyqF6-a3FaWPwLPmrN5ZhQAA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > .   --   आ नो भद्रा: क्रतवो यन्तु विश्वत: ll Let noble thoughts come to us from every side. - Rig Veda, I-89-i.   Professor & Head Department of Sanskrit Studies University of Hyderabad Prof. C.R. Rao Road Hyderabad-500 046   (91) 040 23133802(off)   http://scl.samsaadhanii.in <http://sanskrit.uohyd.ac.in/faculty/amba> http://sanskrit.uohyd.ac.in/scl http://tdil-dc.in/san/ http://sanskrit.uohyd.ac.in/faculty/amba

K S Kannan <ks.kann...@gmail.com>: Mar 30 10:39PM +0530 Namaste Amba-ji.   It's splendid!   This is needed for other texts too. Many thanks for pointing this out.   This needs and deserves immense publicity plus exposure/training even for apposite utility.   And we need a veritable army of Sanskritists for this.   On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:33 PM Amba Kulkarni <ambap...@gmail.com> wrote:   > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bvparishat/CAFffahDttvM0g3%2Bs8XVaRkCa9sbHfSGn%2BSRFhxfnu8uAvtcu5g%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bvparishat/CAFffahDttvM0g3%2Bs8XVaRkCa9sbHfSGn%2BSRFhxfnu8uAvtcu5g%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > .   -- Dr. K.S.Kannan D.Litt.   ​Sant Rajinder Singh Ji Maharaj Chair Professor, IIT-Madras.   Senior Fellow, ICSSR, New Delhi.   Academic Director, Swadeshi Indology.   Member, Academic Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthana.   Nominated Member, IIAS, Shimla. Former Professor, CAHC, Jain University, Bangalore.   Former Director, Karnataka Samskrit University, Bangalore.   Former Head, Dept. of Sanskrit, The National Colleges, Bangalore.

Nagaraj Paturi <nagara...@gmail.com>: Mar 31 12:35AM +0530 Indic Academy is currently funding Vedavapi project of Prof. Sai Susarla which involves work of concept mapping and much beyond for several texts   IA is separately funding a concept mapping project for Vakyapadiyam being carried out at Veda Vijnana Gurukula at Bengaluru.

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Valmiki Ramayana Text- Help to do word-search

Krishnan S <krishnan...@gmail.com>: Mar 30 07:53PM +0530 > Dear Scholars   My daughter has a project to do word-frequency analysis of the text of Valmiki Ramayana.   Any source (URL, perhaps) which can be of help to her?   Thanks and regards   Krishnan

Nagaraj Paturi <nagara...@gmail.com>: Mar 30 10:18PM +0530 That's a big project.   At what level of education is she?   On Mon, Mar 30, 2020, 10:13 PM Krishnan S <krishnan...@gmail.com> wrote:

Roland Steiner <ste...@staff.uni-marburg.de>: Mar 30 06:58PM +0200 Various searchable text versions can be found here:   http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil.html#Ram     With best regards, Roland Steiner

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Bhartṛhari: Śatakatrakya

Madhav Deshpande <mmd...@umich.edu>: Mar 30 05:54AM -0700 Dear Marcis,   Look up works like Chandomañjarī and Vr̥ttaratnākara. These are very useful to get general definitions of meters and the commentaries quote examples from across the poetic literature. Best,   Madhav M. Deshpande Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies   [Residence: Campbell, California, USA]

Siddharth Wakankar <sywak...@gmail.com>: Mar 30 09:34PM +0530 One of the best and earliest publications is जयदामन्,edited by Prof.H D Velankar of Mumbai.He has edited other books also on Meters.   Best of luck in your search.   Prof. Siddharth Y Wakankar. Vadodara .9427339942.

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A distraction from the Coronavirus

Madhav Deshpande <mmd...@umich.edu>: Mar 30 06:31AM -0700 A distraction from the Coronavirus   कोरोनास्पर्शभीतोऽहं न हरिष्यामि जानकीम् । तस्या निर्गमनादूर्ध्वमागमिष्यामि सत्वरम् ।।   Ravana said: “Scared of contacting the Coronavirus, I will not abduct Sita. Once it goes away, I will return quickly.”   Madhav M. Deshpande Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies   [Residence: Campbell, California, USA]

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Continuing my Krishna verses

Madhav Deshpande <mmd...@umich.edu>: Mar 30 06:16AM -0700 Continuing my Krishna verses   वां विना जीवितं कृष्ण सर्वं मे तमसावृतम् । नीरसं च निरानन्दमर्थशून्यं जनार्दन ।।१०५९।।   Without you, O Krishna, my life is entirely enveloped in darkness. It is without happiness, bliss and is meaningless.   माधवा तुझ्या वाचून माझे अंधारी जीवन । ना रस ना आनंद होई सारे अर्थशून्य ।।   Madhav M. Deshpande Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies   [Residence: Campbell, California, USA]

Madhav Deshpande <mmd...@umich.edu>: Mar 30 06:17AM -0700 Continuing my Krishna verses   वां विना जीवितं कृष्ण सर्वं मे तमसावृतम् । नीरसं च निरानन्दमर्थशून्यं जनार्दन ।।१०५९।।   Without you, O Krishna, my life is entirely enveloped in darkness. It is without happiness, bliss and is meaningless.   Madhav M. Deshpande Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies   [Residence: Campbell, California, USA]

Madhav Deshpande <mmd...@umich.edu>: Mar 30 06:25AM -0700 Continuing my Krishna verses त्वां विना जीवितं कृष्ण सर्वं मे तमसावृतम् । नीरसं च निरानन्दमर्थशून्यं जनार्दन ।।१०५९।। Without you, O Krishna, my life is entirely enveloped in darkness. It is without happiness, bliss and is meaningless.   Madhav M. Deshpande Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies   [Residence: Campbell, California, USA]

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Dr.Raghavan's reference to Patanjali

K S Kannan <ks.kann...@gmail.com>: Mar 30 05:44PM +0530 ज्ञास्यत्यद्धा प्रातिभं चक्षुरस्य पुस्तं लेखं गां गतं द्यां गतम् वा ॥   > Former Professor, CAHC, Jain University, Bangalore.   > Former Director, Karnataka Samskrit University, Bangalore.   > Former Head, Dept. of Sanskrit, The National Colleges, Bangalore.   -- Dr. K.S.Kannan D.Litt.   ​Sant Rajinder Singh Ji Maharaj Chair Professor, IIT-Madras.   Senior Fellow, ICSSR, New Delhi.   Academic Director, Swadeshi Indology.   Member, Academic Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthana.   Nominated Member, IIAS, Shimla. Former Professor, CAHC, Jain University, Bangalore.   Former Director, Karnataka Samskrit University, Bangalore.   Former Head, Dept. of Sanskrit, The National Colleges, Bangalore.

shankara <shanka...@yahoo.com>: Mar 30 01:12PM Namaste, मेरूकुर्वन्ति ये नित्यं परेषां गुणसर्षपान्। परमोदारचित्तेभ्यः तेभ्यो नित्यं नतोऽस्म्यहम्॥   regards shankara   On Monday, 30 March, 2020, 5:45:52 pm IST, K S Kannan <ks.kann...@gmail.com> wrote: ज्ञास्यत्यद्धा प्रातिभं चक्षुरस्यपुस्तं लेखं गां गतं द्यां गतम् वा ॥   On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 5:40 PM K S Kannan <ks.kann...@gmail.com> wrote:   तार्तीयीकं लोचनं शङ्करस्यकं न ग्रन्थं गोचरीकर्त्तुमीष्टे ? ।   On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 5:05 PM G S S Murthy <murt...@gmail.com> wrote:   Thanks Prof.Paturiji,It was not my intention to convey that Prof.Raghavan attributed the verses to Valmiki. I just mentioned that it is not there in Valmiki, although it could fit in well in Ramayana story. Patanjali must have quoted it from some source, I felt. The fact that Prof.Raghavan does not say anything about the source made me feel that the source was unidentified when he wrote the essay.Regarding Shankaraji's support to BVP would this convey reasonably well, which is based on Prof.Kannan's expression? भुवं गतं वाथ दिवं गतं वा   मुद्रापितं वा डिजिटीकृतं वा ।   न पुस्तकं शोधकलेखनं वा भवेन्न यत् शङ्करदृष्टिगोचरम् ॥  Thanks and regards,Murthy     On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 16:41, Nagaraj Paturi <nagara...@gmail.com> wrote:   Sri G S S Murthy-ji, Prof. Raghavan is not at all saying that the story is in Ramayana.  He is saying that the story is a story involves Ramayana motifs (the expression वानरसैन्येस्मिन् is cliching) so has influence of Ramayana on it. Patanjali quoting such a story shows that Ramayana was already so popular and influential by Patanjali's time itself.  The story itself is a proverbial story used as a proverb to talk about the behaviour of a person which turns out to be right /good / appropriate accidentally /coincidentally without being intended by that person to be so.  एतदप्यस्य कापेयं यदर्कमुपतिष्ठति  is the point.  On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 4:25 PM K S Kannan <ks.kann...@gmail.com> wrote:   Who is not obliged to Shankaraji? : bhuvam gatam vAtha divam gatam vA nAsya gRdhra-dRShTiM parihartum pArayejjAtucit pustakaM kincit!   On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 4:14 PM G S S Murthy <murt...@gmail.com> wrote:   Does the original source of these two verses remain unidentified? As far as I know, they are not in the present day Ramayana.Thanks and regards,Murthy On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 15:10, G S S Murthy <murt...@gmail.com> wrote:   Thank you Prof.Kannan and Sri. Shankara ji.I downloaded Text only version of Dr.Raghavan's tome as PDF download was very slow. May be I lost the Devanagari text for that reason.How does one thank a person like Shankaraji who is willing to help all the time and everyone with his wizardry? I can only say, "May God bless you".Thanks and Regards,Murthy On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 11:03, 'shankara' via भारतीयविद्वत्परिषत् <bvpar...@googlegroups.com> wrote:   Murthyji, The verse mentioned by Raghavan are given below. बहूनामप्यचित्तानामेको भवति चित्तवान्। पश्य वानरसैन्येऽस्मिन्यदर्कमुपतिष्ठते।।   मैवं मंस्थाः सचित्तोऽयमेषोऽपि हि यथा वयम्। एतदप्यस्य कापेयं यदर्कमुपतिष्ठति।। http://ashtadhyayi.com/sutraani/sk2692 https://archive.org/details/ramayanatraditioninasiaraghavanv.sahityaakademi_202003_552_f/page/n9/mode/1up       regards shankara   On Monday, 30 March, 2020, 10:44:12 am IST, G S S Murthy <murt...@gmail.com> wrote: Dr. Raghavan in one of his essays on Ramayana refers to "Patanjali’s citation of two Anustubh verses making a humorous reference   to a solitary monkey in the monkey army standing up and worshippingthe Sun."I request help in knowing these 2 anushtup verses in Sanskrit.Thanks and regardsMurthy   -- My web site : http://murthygss.tripod.com/index.htm and also my Sanskrit blog : http://simplesanskrit.blogspot.com/   http://gssmurthy.blogspot.com         -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "भारतीयविद्वत्परिषत्" group. 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