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Richard Gill

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May 13, 2023, 9:36:43 AM5/13/23
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Dear all

The topic "Re: Local hidden variables" has had so many and so long emails that some people can't even display all messages on that topic on their internet devices (laptops, tablets, smart phones, ...)

Please:

* when you reply to an email from the group, think of others. Do not include all the previous emails in your own.

* start some new topics. In particular, some of us have bees in their bonnets about their own pet approach to Bell inequalities and quantum foundations. Why don't, for instance, Alexei, Austin, Inge, Bryan, Marian ... each start off a new topic? Give it an enticing name, post the first message - an executive summary, some key references...

Yours
Richard

Inge Svein Helland

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May 13, 2023, 10:10:51 AM5/13/23
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Dear all,

I would like to start a new topic and I refer to my email earlier today. But for private reasons I cannot answer questions before Monday morning.

Inge
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13. mai 2023 kl. 15:37 skrev Richard Gill <gill...@gmail.com>:

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Inge Svein Helland

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May 14, 2023, 12:57:29 PM5/14/23
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Dear all.

Here are the references for the new topic:

1) There seems to be lacking an explanation of the fact that the CHSH inequality may be violated in practice. Here is an explanation in terms of a limitation of the mind of any observer: arXiv: 2305.05299 [quant-ph].

2) It all relies upon a new proposal for a foundation of quantum mechanics based upon conceptual variables, physical variables as mirrored in the mind of an observer or in the joint minds of a group of communicating observers:
arXiv: 2305. 06727 [quant-ph]

Any comments to these two papers will be of interest.

Inge









From: Inge Svein Helland
Sent: 13 May 2023 16:10
To: Richard Gill
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Subject: Conceptual variables and quantum foundation
 

Richard Gill

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May 14, 2023, 4:34:29 PM5/14/23
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Dear all

To start a new topic, I believe you *must* go to the Google Groups web page of our group


and start a new topic from that page. You must obviously be logged in with an appropriate Google account. Just emailing to the group with a new "Subject" does not work.

(It used to work, but Google changes the system from time to time, without warning.)

Possibly it would also help to be using the Chrome browser. I don't know ...

Richard

Mark Hadley

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May 14, 2023, 4:56:53 PM5/14/23
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I tried replying with an edited heading. What goes wrong?


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Richard Gill

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May 15, 2023, 8:38:57 AM5/15/23
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Dear all

Here are some tips on the Google groups web interface.

The "opening page" of the group contains the list of topics so far, the most recently active ones at the top. Actually, we should follow Google and call them *conversations*. Notice the bit plus sign in a circle, top left. That is the button for starting a new conversation. 

Go ahead, try it out! Be playful and daring!

See the screenshot:


new_conversation.jpg

Next, let's go and look at any. particular topic. There are some tiny icon buttons at top right which you probably never used, except perhaps by mistake. See the next screenshot.  I want to draw your attention to the little lock. You can turn it from a closed lock to an open lock by clicking on it. I think that if you have made it locked (which you can see because the icon is now of an *unlocked* padlock) then you won't see new messages in the conversation, beyond those you have already looked at. Yes, I agree, it is not very user friendly. People have been saying for years that Google is not putting any man- or woman-power into Google groups, they want companies to pay for a commercial version, which they do work on. The free version for losers, is just for losers .... Maybe there is something better around? I don't know.

lock_conversation.jpg




OK, that's it for now.

Your group-manager-number-2,  Richard

Mark Hadley

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May 17, 2023, 6:50:59 AM5/17/23
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I am just using it with email.
It seems to work well enough. Though it is a good discipline to remove the old history when replying.
Cheers
Mark


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