PIMENTEL, PEMINTEL from Graciosa Island

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Eliseu Manuel Pacheco da Silva

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Dec 28, 2009, 7:15:01 AM12/28/09
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Does anyone have any relation to:

 

GRACIOSA ISLAND FAMILY

 

Francisco Pais (born around 1670) married to Maria Victória. They had:

 

1.     Boaventura Pimentel, born 1703, S. Mateus, Praia. Married to Francisca Pereira de Vasconcelos in 26 of July 1728, S. Mateus, Praia. Francisca was the daughter of Manuel da Cunha de Vasconcelos and Catarina Pereira. They had:

a.     Manuel José Pimentel, born around 1740, São Mateus, Praia, died after 15 of February 1795. He was married to Leonarda Rosa. They had:

                                                              i.      António (José Pimentel?)

                                                            ii.      José (Pimentel?)

                                                          iii.      Fructuoso José Pimentel, born 8 July 1771, São Mateus, Praia. He was married at São Mateus, Praia in 15 February 1795 to Rosa Joaquina do Coração de Jesus or Rosa Joaquina de Santo António, born 1778, São Mateus, Praia. They had:

1.      Manuel de Sousa Pimentel born at São Mateus, Graciosa. He was married to Prudência Rosa do Coração de Jesus in 26 May 1845 at São Mateus, Praia She was the daughter of Bartolomeu (Correia) Picanço and Maria Joaquina de São Francisco. They had:

a.     José de Sousa da Silva married to Francisca Carolina de Bettencourt in 11 May 1868 at Sta. Cruz (my greatgrandparents)

                                                         iv.      Francisco (José Pimentel?)

                                                           v.      João (Pimentel?)

 

 

Happy New Year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

eliseu

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Dec 28, 2009, 6:31:06 PM12/28/09
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I am related to Francisco Pais. I have his baptismal record. He was baptized on Feb. 18, 1670 in Sao Mateus, Praia. The film is #1547223. I can find the copy if you want it. His father was Mattias Pais. His mother was Maria de Cunha.
 
He married Maria  on 18 Aug 1691, also in the Sao Mates parish. The film for that is 1547249. I have a copy of it also. I can find it if you would like a copy.
 
I ended with his parents. I follow the same descendants until you get to Fructuoso José Pimentel. I go through his daughter Maria Izabel Coracao de Jesus instead of  his son Manuel.
 
Wow, I haven't found many online connections to my family. How exciting! Happy New Year!
Take care,
Sherry Barnhurst

henriet...@sbcglobal.net

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Jan 3, 2010, 1:51:23 PM1/3/10
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Hi Eliseu, BoaventurePimentel  Pais is my 4th great grandfather . I His son Manuel Jose Pimentel is my direct line. He married Leonarda Rosa Mello.  Their son is Antonio Jose Pimentel. His son is also Antonio Jose Pimentel. His daughter Rosa Emelia Pimentel is my grandfather 's mother.
Furtoso and Manuel are brothers.           We are coming from the same line.     HenriettaMello Mayer My ----- Original Message -----
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Jan 3, 2010, 2:42:58 PM1/3/10
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I too come from that line and have the records for it. Henrietta Mello Mayer. Have found another cousin.
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Eliseu Manuel Pacheco da Silva

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Jan 3, 2010, 2:28:49 PM1/3/10
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Hi Henrietta,

 

I am glad we found a connection!!! It is always a pleasure to find cousins around the world!

 

I am asking your attention to the little differences we have. I would like to clear my doubts.

a)      Where may I find that BOAVENTURA PIMENTEL is also PAIS as his father was?

b)      I do not understand your note saying that FRUCTUOSO and MANUEL are brothers!!! I have a MANUEL son of BOAVENTURA and an ANTÓNIO son of MANUEL.

c)       You say that FRUCTUOSO and MANUEL are Brothers…

 

Do you have any dates for these persons?

 

I can send you  a GEDCOM. Can you do the same?

 

I also have copies of the original marriage lists from S. Mateus, PRAIA, Graciosa. If you like any information please let me know about.

 

Thank you very much

Happy New year!

 

 

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Jan 4, 2010, 3:11:18 PM1/4/10
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Hi Eliseu, I am sorry but I made a mistake about Manuel and Furtuso. I have  Manuel Jose Pimentel born Feb. 24, 1739-40 Married Feb. 03, 1762 to Leonarda Rosa de Mello born Dec. 5, 1743 . His parents are Boventura Pimentel Pais and Francisca Pereira Vasconcellos. Her parents are Antonio Vaz Ferreira and Maria Ajuda. 
  Children.
 Antonio Jose Pimentel Sr. born March 29, 1765 Marr. Maria Flora Joaquina Oct. 29, 1798
 Jose Pimentel born July 28, 1778?
 
Furtuso Jose Pimentel born July 08, 1771
 Francisco Jose Pimentel  born July 08, 1771
 
Joao Pimentel born March 28, 1779
Antonio is my direct ancestor.  Sorry but these names do get confusing. I have family from every island and have been trying to work on all of them.  If you put my name on googleyou will be able to see the book that I did on my fathers maternal side.    Henrietta Mello Mayer  on google
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gregorylima tds.net

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Jan 4, 2010, 10:50:33 PM1/4/10
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Hello Eliseu-

Your comment about the lists of marriages caught my attention. I have
many ancestors from São Matheus (Praia), Graciosa. If I provide a
couple of names and approximate dates, would you please check your
lists?

Obrigado o meu amigo (primo?)
Greg Lima
Washington State

Dolores Coyle

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Jan 4, 2010, 4:02:33 PM1/4/10
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Henrietta,

Are you related to the Mello(w)s  from Gloucester, Mass?  My Great Grandmother's half sister was Serina married Joseph Mellow.  They lived in Gloucester, Mass.

Thanks,
Dolores Coyle

Eliseu Manuel Pacheco da Silva

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Jan 5, 2010, 4:59:10 AM1/5/10
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Hi Henrietta,

 

You are absolutely  right: the names get confusing! Sometimes I have to start all over again to understand what I am doing!

I found a book about the SILVA name in google. Is it correct?

 

eliseu

Eliseu Manuel Pacheco da Silva

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Jan 4, 2010, 11:09:56 PM1/4/10
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Hi Greg,

Yes I will check the lists for free :) :) :)

eliseu


henriet...@sbcglobal.net

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Jan 6, 2010, 10:54:18 AM1/6/10
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Hi , I am sorry but I don,t know of any Mello,s in Gloucester that are part of my family . The Mello,s from this family went to Bermuda, Texas, Sao George , Stonington, Ct. and New Bedford, MA. but you never know they went all over. Henrietta

Tony Rodrigues

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Jan 6, 2010, 12:51:26 PM1/6/10
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Hi, just to let you know, My grandfather's name was Mello, & they settled in East Boston, Ma, maybe we are related somehow.
 
                                                             Tony

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Jan 7, 2010, 4:43:06 PM1/7/10
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Hi Tony , In 1900 we had a Mello of the family living on No 68 Burkshire St. Cambridgeport,  Ma. His name was Manuel C. Mello.   Henrietta
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Tony Rodrigues

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Jan 7, 2010, 5:15:10 PM1/7/10
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Henrietta, as much as I would like it, were not related, but good hunting on your history.

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henriet...@sbcglobal.net

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Mar 13, 2010, 11:15:40 PM3/13/10
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Hi, I don't know what book you mean. If it is called Silva Descendants , Portuguese Genealogy by Henrietta Mello Mayer than it is my book . I am doing a supplement and some corrections on it now. When I did the book back in 1965. I didn't have access to the records from the Azores.Some of the names and dates have to be corrected.
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Vivian Christy

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Mar 15, 2010, 3:59:29 PM3/15/10
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Hello Henrietta,
 
Your book does it suggest all da Silva's are related?  Or is it just ones that came from a certain Island in the Azores?  I have not seen your book yet.  Would it be something I should read because my Grandfather was a da Silva? 
 
Thank you, Vivian (Silva) Christy

henriet...@sbcglobal.net

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Mar 15, 2010, 7:25:48 PM3/15/10
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Hi, No my book does not suggest that all Silva's are related. My Silva:Silveira are from Pico. There are Silva, Silveira, Sylva on all the islands.   Henrietta

nancy jean baptiste

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Mar 17, 2010, 12:17:20 PM3/17/10
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Hi Henrietta,
 
I have Silva's from Sao Mateus and Candelaria, Pico......will my families be in your book? Where might a person purchase your book?
 
Thanks,
Nancy Jean Baptista
 

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