Hi all,
I have belonged to the group for about two months...
And I have been
reading the messages to try and understand the
format before I send
out my first reply/email/message... In
otherwords I have a lot of
questions etc., because my Azorean/Sao
Miguel tree goes back three or
four generation to the point that we
know which boat most of my gg-
grandparents travelled to Hawaii on.
I
am going to start with a question to Celeste. In the message below
you
mention the St. Joseph cemetery in Hayward. Where is that
located??
I grew up in Hayward (and now live in Castro Valley)
Thanks,
Eric Gomes
--Hi Eric,
Welcome to the group. Mt. St. Joseph Cemetery is located on Walpert St. In the olden days, you could only reach the cemetery via Second St. Walpert is the street just past the "castle." Now, Walpert runs between Second St and Mission Blvd.
This cemetery was begun about 1875 and served the Hayward area for the most part. When I was extracting the record, I heard that because a lot of babies were buried it was sometimes referred to the "Cemetery of the Babies" and that many people from other areas had their babies buried there.
I have the records for the most part from the beginning of the burials until about 1960. At the time I extracted the records, there was one more book and I was not allowed to include that book.
It is pretty much true that Catholics buried from All Saints Church were buried there until Holy Sepulchre was started in 1937, I think. The cemetery does not have perpetual care so families had to tend the graves themselves. Now, I think the church does some maintenance; however, there has been a lot of vandalism.
If you have any additional questions, just email me privately. Celeste, Hayward, CA
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Eric,
It is true that the grave stones were put into a database (not the one I did). Many of the stones had been destroyed and were at the bottom of the creek that runs behind the cemetery. If you are looking for someone that may be buried there, they may or may not have a stone.
In addition, there is a large section at the back of the cemetery that was known as "the poor ground." Almost no stones were found there when I began looking for my uncle who died in 1917 at the age of 3 months. Of course, my grandparents did not have the money for a stone and that is the reason I began looking at the 14 books for the cemetery.
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Ancestors of Manuel FERNANDES
Generation 1
1.
Manuel FERNANDES was born on 01 Aug 1878 in Fajã de Cima, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal. Hewas the son of 2. Luiz M. FARNANDES and 3. Roza A. PACHECO. He died on 16 Aug 1909 in
Dimond Canyon Quarry, Oakland, CA. He married Maria Augusta PEREIRA on 24 Jul 1904 in
Oakland, CA, daughter of Manuel PEREIRA and Joaquina Rosa MORGADO. She was born on 29
Oct 1886 in Honolulu, Hawaii. She died on 21 Aug 1959 in Contra Costa Co., CA.
Generation 2
2.
Luiz M. FARNANDES was born on 20 Jun 1842 in Fajã de Cima, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal. Hewas the son of 4. Jose de Medeiros FARNANDES and 5. Antonia Jacinta FURTADA. He died on 15
Sep 1905. He married Antonia de Jesus
3.
Roza A. PACHECO was born 25 Jan 1857 in Fajã de Cima, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal, died 03May 1938 in San Jose, Santa Clara, CA, married 29 Sep 1875 in Fajã de Cima, Sao Miguel, Azores,
Portugal. She was the daughter of 6. Jacinto PACHECO and 7. Maria dos Angos RAPOZA.
Children of Luiz M. FARNANDES and Roza A. PACHECO are:
+ 1. i. Manuel FERNANDES was born 01 Aug 1878 in Fajã de Cima, Sao Miguel, Azores,
Portugal, died 16 Aug 1909 in Dimond Canyon Quarry, Oakland, CA, married Maria
Augusta PEREIRA 24 Jul 1904 in Oakland, CA.
ii. Jose FERNANDES was born Abt. Feb 1882 in Fajã de Cima, Sao Miguel, Azores,
Portugal
[1], died Bef. 1910.Generation 3
4.
Jose de Medeiros FARNANDES. He was the son of 8. Thome de Medeiros FARNANDES and 9.Felicia Roza ?. He married Antonia Jacinta FURTADA.
5.
Antonia Jacinta FURTADA. She was the daughter of 10. Francisco FURTADO and 11. Laurianna deJesus ?.
Child of Jose de Medeiros FARNANDES and Antonia Jacinta FURTADA is:
+ 2. i. Luiz M. FARNANDES was born 20 Jun 1842 in Fajã de Cima, Sao Miguel, Azores,
Portugal, died 15 Sep 1905, married Roza A. PACHECO 29 Sep 1875 in Fajã de Cima,
Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal.
6.
Jacinto PACHECO was born about Oct 1833 in Fajã de Cima, Azores, Portugal (Church = Senhorado Oliveria)
[2]. He was the son of 12. Luis PACHECO and 13. Claudina de Jesus FERREIRA. Hemarried Maria dos Angos RAPOZA on 28 Oct 1855 in Fajã de Cima, Azores, Portugal.
7.
Maria dos Angos RAPOZA was born Abt. 1829 in Fajã de Cima, Azores, Portugal[2], married 28 Oct1855 in Fajã de Cima, Azores, Portugal. She was the daughter of 14. Antonio Pereira RAPOZO and
15. Marianna de Jesus ?.
Child of Jacinto PACHECO and Maria dos Angos RAPOZA is:
+ 3. i. Roza A. PACHECO was born 25 Jan 1857 in Fajã de Cima, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal,
died 03 May 1938 in San Jose, Santa Clara, CA, married Luiz M. FARNANDES 29 Sep
1875 in Fajã de Cima, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal; married Manuel V. MIRANDA
Azores-Island Unknown.
Generation 4
8.
Thome de Medeiros FARNANDES. He married Felicia Roza ?.9.
Felicia Roza ?.Child of Thome de Medeiros FARNANDES and Felicia Roza ? is:
+ 4. i. Jose de Medeiros FARNANDES.
10.
Francisco FURTADO. He married Laurianna de Jesus ?.11.
Laurianna de Jesus ? was born Sao Miguel, Vila Franca do Campo, Sao Miguel .Child of Francisco FURTADO and Laurianna de Jesus ? is:
+ 5. i. Antonia Jacinta FURTADA.
12.
Luis PACHECO. He was the son of 24. Manoel PACHECO and 25. Maria Joaquina ?. He marriedClaudina de Jesus FERREIRA on 10 Feb 1833 in Fajã de Baixo, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal
[3].13.
Claudina de Jesus FERREIRA, married 10 Feb 1833 in Fajã de Baixo, Sao Miguel, Azores,Portugal
[3]. She was the daughter of 26. Mathias Jose FERREIRA and 27. Suzana de Jesus ?.Child of Luis PACHECO and Claudina de Jesus FERREIRA is:
+ 6. i. Jacinto PACHECO was born Abt. Oct 1833 in Fajã de Cima, Azores, Portugal; Church =
Senhora do Oliveria
[2], married Maria dos Angos RAPOZA 28 Oct 1855 in Fajã de Cima,Azores, Portugal.
14.
Antonio Pereira RAPOZO. He married Marianna de Jesus ?.15.
Marianna de Jesus ?, died Bef. Oct 1855.Child of Antonio Pereira RAPOZO and Marianna de Jesus ? is:
+ 7. i. Maria dos Angos RAPOZA was born Abt. 1829 in Fajã de Cima, Azores, Portugal
[2],married Jacinto PACHECO 28 Oct 1855 in Fajã de Cima, Azores, Portugal.
Well, Tish, it was just a fluke that enabled me to extract the information and put it into a database.
I wanted to know where my uncle had been buried. I knew he had died at the age of 3 months and that my grandparents attended All Saints church. As it happened, the pastor at the time I tried to find the baby, was a priest that I knew personally. He had come to All Saints when I was in the 8th grade there and I had helped with with translations.
Long story short, Fr. Oliveira let me bring all the books home to look through them for the baby's burial. I had been with a friend in KA looking for her ancestors and had seen a card file a woman had made up from the burial information for a cemetery there. I began a card file and found it just did not work, too many entries about the same people in different books; a deed book, a plot book, a mass book, the grave digger's book. So, I learned how to use a computer database, set up my own file in Dbase and began a 4 year journey down the burial of a whole lot of people.
When I finally finished, there was a new pastor and the last book (which was still being used to enter burials) and he told me I could not take the book from the office of the church. Thus ended my extractions.
I had success looking at the books for one of the Oakland Portuguese churches, Mary Help of Christians, which was demolished when the freeway was built. The books were sent to St. Elizabeth's Church and, when I was searching for information, they allowed me to make an appt. and look at the books.
St. Leander's in San Leandro also allowed me to search their books for baptisms, marriages, etc.
I have not had experience at any of the other churches in the Hayward area. If all else fails, there is a church archive in Menlo Park at St. Patrick's Seminary that has microfilm from the Archdiocese of San Francisco (before the Diocese of Oakland was formed) and ancient readers. It is not easy to make appts; the readers are a challenge; the person who was in charge did not offer any help; however, there was a nun who vounteered and she was very kind, although she did not know much about the records. You got to files, you pick through the microfilms, you figure out how to read them and you refile the film. As you can guess, things are not always easy to find.
I do not think births in Alameda County HAD to be recorded in 1880. My mother was born in 1919, at home, and her birth was not recorded. However, when she filed for SSI, she had to get her baptismal record and a statement from 3 neighbors that knew of her birth and a "belated" birth certificate was filed. The baptismal records were used for some civil filing after the fact.
Another possibility is the death record that was filed at the time of the death. I found one for someone who died in 1906, in San Leandro, CA. Of course, the dead person's name was the name of his son and the informant was the name of the deceased! I had solid information that Frank had died on the date of the record so I think it was not only the priests in the Azores who had too much wine, it sometimes was also those who wrote records in other places!
So Tish, can you find information from different churches, MAYBE.
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