New Bedford St John's Cemetery Lookup Needed

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Cindy D

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Apr 15, 2013, 9:27:34 PM4/15/13
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Does anyone have the St John's Cemetery Book for a lookup. I'm desperate. 
 
Joseph Sylvia/Silvia/daSilva.  Should have died in 1942 according to family, born Dec 1875 in St Miguel.
 
His wife....Margarita/Margaret/Margarida Silvia/Sylvia  nee Pimentel, died 1939 born in Flores.
 
If not, I had an address to someone I could write to at the cemetery but have mislaid it, does anyone have that information??
 
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Sylvia/Pimentel
 

Mike

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Apr 15, 2013, 9:46:04 PM4/15/13
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There are four operating cemeteries under the jurisdiction of the City of New Bedford, they are:

All the cemeteries have been brought into one office holding all the records, the older cemeteries have no more plots to sell. so try writing to the address listed below

  1. Rural Cemetery -- 149 Dartmouth Street
  2. Oak Grove Cemetery -- 185 Parker Street
  3. Pine Grove Cemetery -- 1100 Ashley Blvd
  4. Peckham West Cemetery -- Mt. Pleasant Street*

There are also several cemeteries/and or buriel grounds under our jurisdiction that are closed, however, they are still maintained by our department personnel, they are:

  1. Griffin Street Cemetery
  2. Point Road Cemetery
  3. Tobey Family Burying Ground
  4. Reynolds Family (Braley Road) Cemetery
  5. Congregational Church Cemetery
  6. Friends Cemetery
Please note that records of all buriels under our jurisdiction are maintained in our Main Office of the Cemetery Board at 149 Dartmouth Street

Mike

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this inccludes all the old Catholic cemeteries


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"E" Sharp

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Apr 15, 2013, 10:24:48 PM4/15/13
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St. John's Cemetery records are online at findagrave.com.  It does list Joseph b. 1875 d. 1942.  I have the SJ cemetery book.  Joseph is buried in St. Francis Section of St. John's.  He is buried with Virginia 1879-1951 and Angelina Barboza 1901-1946. Not sure if this is the right one as no Margarida listed on stone.  On Findagrave.com you can request a photo of the stones and most times you will receive one.  Hope this helps.
 
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"E" Sharp

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Apr 15, 2013, 10:31:40 PM4/15/13
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There is another Joseph Sylvia buried in St. Anthony Section.  b. 1875 d. 1942.  The previous one I sent was b. 1872 and died 1945 so I think this one is probably the one you are looking for.  Call the cemetery, be very nice, and ask them to look for his record.  They can give you exact date of his death, etc.  I will try to find his wife's record.  According to this record, there is no other name on the stone.
 
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"E" Sharp

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Apr 15, 2013, 10:46:10 PM4/15/13
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There is a Margarida O. Sylvia but she was b. 1891 and died in 1979 buried in St. Jude Section. 
 
The book is a little difficult to go through as I have to go page by page as it is sorted by section and then by surname.
 
Also, by obtaining the exact date of death for Joseph from the cemetery, you can email the New Bedford Public Library and ask for an obituary.  I believe they now charge for this but it is minimal if memory serves me correctly.  Been a while since I ordered one from them.  In the meantime, I will check the Portuguese paper and see if I can find one there.
 
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Pam Santos

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Apr 15, 2013, 11:00:38 PM4/15/13
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here are the Joseph Silva/Silvia/Sylvia death year only

Joseph Silva 1935 boston

1935 Cambidge

1933 Fairhaven (That is on or near cape code)

1935 oaks bluff

1935 plymouth

1935 edgartown

1933 new bedford

 

1937 cambridge

1940 cambridge (Two)

1940 "  "

1937 lawrence

1938 lynn

1936 manchester

1939 medford

1936 new bedford

1940 new bedford

1939 norfolk

1936 rutland

1939 plymouth

1938 new bedford

1938 rockport

1938 Peabody

1939 New Bedford

 

1944 attleboro

1944 boston

1944 boston

1943 cambridge

1945 New bedford

1943 Rehoboth

1943 seekonk

1941 gloucester

1941 new bedford

1941 atteboro

1942 gloucester

1941 westport

1945 Hingham

1944 new bedford

1943 Truro

1944 gloucester

1942 arlington

1944 boston

1944 falmouth

Edward Rodrigues

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Apr 15, 2013, 10:17:16 PM4/15/13
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There is a Joseph Sylvia listed on find a grave

Birth: 1875
Death: 1942

 
Burial:
Saint Johns Cemetery
New Bedford
Bristol County
Massachusetts, USA
Plot: St Anthony section
 
Edit Virtual Cemetery info [?]
 
Created by: Karen
Record added: Oct 16, 2010
Find A Grave Memorial# 60206053

Cheryl Lawrence

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Apr 15, 2013, 11:16:32 PM4/15/13
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Cindy,
If you can get me the section & "Street name" they are in and the proper dates of birth & death, I can take a walk down there on Friday or Saturday and take some photos for you if you'd like. (I Can see the cemetery from my living room window!). St. John's is a huge place, and if you're not quite sure where your family members are, you can easily get lost.
- Cheryl
Cheryl Lawrence  508-951-2657

Cindy D

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Apr 22, 2013, 2:07:10 PM4/22/13
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Thanks Elaine
 
I'm pretty sure this is my g-grandpa.  He is born 1875 for sure, and I think this is the only Joseph/Jose Silvia/Silva/Syvlia that showed an 1875 birth.  So many Joes, so little time.  I have no clue when he died.  I was hoping to collect a death certificate but really need a death year to dig for that.  Whoever Virginia and Angelina are, I haven't a clue.  Or maybe this is a clue to family parts I don't know about.  I don't know much of anything about my Portuguese side.  I did see the posting of this on find-a-grave awhile back but I'm not SURE.  More than grave photo, I want death info. 
 
Can I write to St. John's for death info??  If I get a death date, then I can petition for a death certificate....can't I??
 
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Cindy D

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Apr 22, 2013, 2:20:48 PM4/22/13
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Thanks Elaine....I don't think this is my gal.  She may be listed under Margaret.  I did see a Margaret T Silvia at find-a-grave and maybe that's her.  Except mine is a Margaret U Sylvia nee Pimentel (Flores).   I really need her death certificate because I need a court order to release her medical information and I have to have a birth and death date.....and SS#.  I don't think she ever held a job as she had some "emotional" issues so I don't think I'm going to get a SS#.  I also need a Bristol County lawyer to generate the court order.  Everything is hanging on getting a death date. 
 
Thank you for your Azorean Wisdom!
CindyD

Pam Santos

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Apr 22, 2013, 2:54:26 PM4/22/13
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If you happen to come across a Joseph Silva born Mar 23.1874 let me know. I am looking for this last brother's death who died between 1936-1943 in Massachusettes

"E" Sharp

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Apr 22, 2013, 4:53:27 PM4/22/13
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Cindy,
 
You can call or write to the Cemetery and they will give you the death date especially because you have the location he is in at the cemetery and they like this.  If you are real nice to them, they are real nice in return.  They can give it to you right over the phone and also they can tell you if anyone else is buried with them.  You should be able to get a death certificate from New Bedford Vitals.  I think the cost is about $15 now.  My niece need her parent's marriage record when her mom passed away and she called Vitals and took the info over the phone plus her credit card number and she got it a few days later.  Here is the Cemetery info: 
St. John's Cemetery 664 Allen Street. New Bedford MA 02740
Ph:   (508) 992-1071
 
NB Vital Records, you can email her at:  Elizabet...@newbedford-ma.gov
Mail Addy and Phone No. City Clerks Office - 133 William St - Room 118 - New Bedford, MA 02740 - Tel: 508-979-1450 - Fax: 508-991-6225
 
You might also want to get his Obit from NB Public Library and they are online.  If you need any more help, just ask.
 
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"E" Sharp

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Apr 22, 2013, 4:54:58 PM4/22/13
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Pam,
 
I will try to find your Joseph Silva.
 
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Pam Santos

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Apr 22, 2013, 6:12:03 PM4/22/13
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That would be great, I have spent enough on death certs that were not him already lol One relative said he was buried in Oak Grove Cemetery and he is not according to the cememtery. Not sure where he died possibly Fall River, New Bedford. He did live in Fairhaven and according to relatives he died probably in Bristol Co, MA His siblings are in St Patrick Cemetery

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Apr 22, 2013, 8:19:46 PM4/22/13
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Cindy,

There is an obit for Jose Silva, whose widow is Margarida Pimentel Silva, on page 2 of the Dec. 15, 1942 edition of Diario de Noticias. Children are Mrs. Frederick D. Sherman, Mrs. Manuel Marchall, Mrs. Weldon Rhodes, Mrs. Jesse Hemman, Mrs. Frederick Johnson, Jose, George and Alfredo.

Patricia

Cindy D

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Apr 23, 2013, 8:54:32 AM4/23/13
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Edward-
Thank you. I do believe this is my guy.
Now I need a death certificate!
CindyD

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> There is a Joseph Sylvia listed on find a grave
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> Birth:  1875
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Cindy D

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Apr 23, 2013, 8:59:24 AM4/23/13
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Elaine-
Ahhhh, this is good. I will need this information for a BUNCH of my
New Bedford family.

I always try to be very nice, very polite, very thankful when I'm so
desperate to connect with my ancestors. I feel like a miracle happens
when I find a clue or distant kin....I know you all know what I'm
talking about.

CindyD

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> Cindy,
>
> You can call or write to the Cemetery and they will give you the death date
> especially because you have the location he is in at the cemetery and they
> like this.  If you are real nice to them, they are real nice in return.
> They can give it to you right over the phone and also they can tell you if
> anyone else is buried with them.  You should be able to get a death
> certificate from New Bedford Vitals.  I think the cost is about $15 now.
> My niece need her parent's marriage record when her mom passed away and she
> called Vitals and took the info over the phone plus her credit card number
> and she got it a few days later.  Here is the Cemetery info:
> St. John's Cemetery 664 Allen Street. New Bedford MA 02740
> Ph:   (508) 992-1071
>
> NB Vital Records, you can email her at:  Elizabeth.Marq...@newbedford-ma.gov
> Mail Addy and Phone No. City Clerks Office - 133 William St - Room 118 -
> New Bedford, MA 02740 - Tel: 508-979-1450 - Fax: 508-991-6225
>
> You might also want to get his Obit from NB Public Library and they are
> online.  If you need any more help, just ask.
>
> "E"
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Pam Santos <pamsanto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > If you happen to come across a Joseph Silva born Mar 23.1874 let me know.
> > I am looking for this last brother's death who died between 1936-1943 in
> > Massachusettes
>
> >>>>>>> His wife....Margarita/Margaret/**Mar**garida Silvia/Sylvia  nee
> >>>>>>> Pimentel, died 1939 born in Flores.
>
> >>>>>>> If not, I had an address to someone I could write to at the cemetery
> >>>>>>> but have mislaid it, does anyone have that information??
>
> >>>>>>> CindyD
> >>>>>>> Sylvia/Pimentel
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Cindy D

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Apr 23, 2013, 9:09:31 AM4/23/13
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Patricia!!! OMG!!! THIS IS HIM!!! There's Aunt Annie, Aunt
Margaret, Georgie, Uncle Jessie and LOL, my grandpa Jose (we called
him Joe, everybody loved Joe!), and Uncle Alfred!!! The first and
last time I saw any of them was in 1967 at a funeral in Florida. We
had a ball at the funeral, what fun people! This is one of those
miracles that I mentioned earlier! Thank you so much!! OMG....can't
believe this! I can't wait to show my 85yr old mom!! And yep,
Margarida Pimentel Silva....that's my g-grandma. She was a troubled
soul and I want to know where she ended up. I thought she died before
her husband...apparently not. This might be troublesome as a lot of
the kids left New Bedford and perhaps she went to live with one of the
kids out of state. Arghhhh. I think Alfred's son still might live in
New Bedford. He and my mom are the last two of the whole clan. I
have ONE picture of the Portuguese side of my family and had hoped to
hook up with descendants to learn more about them all.

Thanks again Patricia, this is AWESOME!!
CindyD

"E" Sharp

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Apr 23, 2013, 12:07:55 PM4/23/13
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Pam,
 
These are the closest I found. 
6th Avenue Joseph S.Silva no dated buried w/Mary J. 1871-1913
7th Avenue Joseph Silva 1871-1938 buried with Adelaide, Antone G. Joseph G, Domingo, Jesse G.
A.L.S. Avenue Joseph M. Silva1873-1942 buried with Albert M. Evelyn, Anna J. Guilherminia
St. Cecelia Joseph Silva 1876-1941buried with Antonia.
  
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Pam Santos

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Apr 23, 2013, 1:56:30 PM4/23/13
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He wasn't married, i don't think any of those are him.

Cindy D

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Apr 25, 2013, 8:43:22 AM4/25/13
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Cheryl...well I'm now VERY sure this is my g-grandfather now that I've gotten some details. If you get a nice day, I sure would like a picture of the final resting place of my g-grandparents.  He is in the St Anthony section, but I'll have to find the street for you.  The stone apparently names someone else as his wife....so now my curiosity is fired up.  Can anyone tell me how to find the street name of a burial at St. John's?

CindyD

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Apr 25, 2013, 9:08:17 AM4/25/13
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Cindy,

If you call the cemetery (508-992-1079), give them his name, dates of birth and death, and the St. Anthony section, perhaps they could give you the street name.

Good luck!

Patricia
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