Teaching Myself a Little Portuguese....regarding the FURTADO Family.

[Pat McCoy]

The book, "Portuguese Spinner", just arrived today and I got a better
look at the photo of the FURTADO Family.

According to Babelfish, the Portuguese word for grandmother is: Avo'.
The caption of the photo on page 110 says: Vovo'. Babelfish could
not help me translate Vovo'.

Can someone clarify this for me?

Thanks!

[Cheri Mello]

Avó is more like grandmother.  Vovó is more like grandma.

Avô is grandfather.  Vovô is more like grandpa.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

[Pat McCoy]

Thanks, Cheri!

From what I have been able to find, Grandma is the mother of Maria do
Esprito Santo and the mother-in-law of Caetano Moniz FURTADO. This
would mean that Vovo' is Rosa de Jesus, the mother of Ermelinda
CARREIRO (NUNES).

In the other book, I found a baptism record of the following:

March 3, 1902 - Evangelina Moniz FURTADO, daughter of Caetano M.
FURTADO and Maria do Espirito Santo, both of Arrifes, St. Michael,
Azores. Godparents were Jose Carreiro de Medeiros e Ermelinda de
Jesus.

I'm wondering if this Ermelinda de Jesus is the same as Ermelinda
CARREIRO (NUNES), daughter of Rosa de Jesus? Could Jose Carreiro de
Medeiros be her brother given that Ermelinda's father had died by
1901? (The passenger list of the Dona Maria, dated 1901, listed Rosa
de Jesus as a widow. Ermelinda married Manoel NUNES in 1904.)

Pat McCoy
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[Shirley Allegre]

I remember people saying vavo (vavoo) for grandfather;
and vava (vavaw) for grandmother.
Shirley in CA

Thanks!

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[Karen Boggs]

We called our great grandmother Vava and our great grandfather Voovoo don't know why Voo Voo because looking it up it should have been Vavoo. Just one of those nickname things I guess I nana, grams, granny for Grandma.

[Linda Norton]

I always called my grandmother VaVo. My grandfathers I never met and my
mother said they were called VaVu. Now I'm a grandmother and I have my
grandson call me VaVo and my husband VaVu. I know Avo and Avoo is correct.

My mother on the other hand had my sons call her Nana and Grandpa.

Linda Borges Furtado Norton

[Pat McCoy]

Thanks, Karen.

[Pat McCoy]

Thanks, Linda.

I hadn't realized the different variations of the Portuguese word for
grandmother, i.e. VaVo, Vovo, etc. I'm curious about why there are so
many variations when the "official" word seems to be "Avo".

Pat McCoy
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[Cheri Mello]

I would guess for the same reason that the "official" word in English is "grandmother," but in America, I've heard "grandma," "grammie," "nana," "mamaw," and I don't know what else.

[owl...@gmail.com]

Aloha,   Not sure if this is helpful, but here on the Hawaiian Islands during the Plantation days, many  different nationalities worked side by side.  Blending of languages of Spanish, Japanese,  Chinese, English, Filipino, Hawaiian, Portuguese both Azores,  and Madeira etc.  Of course there was a blend or adopting of some words for better clarity for communication.  So possibly 2nd generation born here or in the mainland, may have borrowed variations of words from other languages.    When doing our family genealogy I documented health issues from one generation to the next.  For example on our Martines Gouveia bloodline, we inherit possible heart and diabetes disease.  On the Marques Nobriga line, its various types of cancer.  On the Silva Sampaio line it is a defective hearing gene.  If not born with a hearing defect, at age 45 there is a 50/50 chance of losing hearing and becoming stone deaf at age 60.  This I found to be in both brothers  Jose and Francisco famlies .     Through the generations with marring into different blood this defective hearing gene gets less and does not show up so frequent as it did so consistently  for 4 generations.    In our family when the elders lost their hearing, correct pronunciation on certain words were not always corrected.  In the surname of  Sampaio began to be mispronounced by some and written as  Sampaia which stuck.    Frannie   -------Original Message-------