Jacintho do Rego Baldaia

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Rego Baldaia

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Dec 20, 2010, 9:18:10 PM12/20/10
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My name is Peter J. Baldaia, and I have been researching my family via
ancestry.com for the past few years. I am Azorean Portuguese on my
father's side. I am looking for more information on the do Rego
Baldaia line. My father was Joseph Rego Baldaia, born in Fall River,
MA in 1923 and died in Pawtucket, RI in 1975. His father was Francisco
(Frank) Rego Baldaia, born San Miguel, Azores in 1882 and died in
Swansea, MA in 1966. His father was Jacintho (Jesse) do Rego Baldaia,
born 1841 in Azores (probably San Miguel) and died after 1910 in Fall
River, MA.

That's as far back as I've been able to go. I grew up in RI, but now
live in Huntsville, AL, so it is not possible for me to research
primary records in Fall River. The records I've found via the ancestry
website indicate that Jacintho arrived in the US in 1886 or 1887, but
I have not been able to locate a ship manifest. What has been
fascinating to me is how many ways his surname was listed. The Fall
River City Directories initially lists Jesse in the 1891 edition,
where he appears as Jacintho Rego. In 1898 he is listed as Jesse Drago
(he is also listed this way in the 1900 Federal Census). In the 1905
City Directory he is listed as Jesse Rego Balday. In the 1910 Federal
Census he's listed as Jesse De Rego. I'm not sure why the name Baldaia
barely crops up—is that typical?

I have no sure record of Jesse after 1910, and don't know exact year
of death or where he was buried. I would love to be able to move back
in time through more distant generations from the Azores and (I'm
assuming) Portugal.

An interesting side note—I have recently had my YDNA tested to
determine my haplogroup and identify my distant paternal grandfather's
people. It turns out that I am in Haplogroup L (rare in Western
Europe), and that I have a very rare genetic marker that so far has
only been identified in the Parsis of India and Pakistan. It is
surmised that my paternal line possibly arrived in Portugal via
Mediterranean traders from the Middle East - the other possibility is
a connection with the former Portuguese possessions on the west coast
of India.

This is all very interesting to me as I was told as a child that our
family descended from the Moors (my grandmother's nickname for my
grandfather was "Sheik" as she thought his distant family was Arabian.
My DNA indicates that this was clearly not the case!

Any help you can provide would be much appreciated!

"E" Sharp

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Dec 20, 2010, 11:29:23 PM12/20/10
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Having just completed considerable Scottish research in India, there
were many Portuguese in India also so your DNA study is interesting.
If you google Portuguese in India, I am sure you will find some
interesting information. Interestingly, the wonderul person in London
who helped me with much of this research via Scotland Army records
from India is Portuguese.

"E"

Linda Norton

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Dec 21, 2010, 1:58:01 AM12/21/10
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Welcome to the group. I guess I can say that you are a part of the
Cabral/Travassos Club? At least on my lines.

I have on my female line-Belchior Baldaia Rego from Fenais da Luz, Sao
Miguel d. 1678 married to Maria Franco. He was the son of Goncalo do Rego.
Belchior and Maria had a son Gaspar.

Goncalo do Rego's first wife was Maria Baldaia, second wife, Isabel Pires.

Francisco Rego Baldaia 1677 from Rosario, Lagoa married to Joana Correia.

Capitao Gaspar Baldaia Rego (a nobleman) born in Porto, Portugal d. 1614
married to Clara de Vasconcelos.

You can find more info from "Livros Quarto das Saudades da Terra-Gaspar
Frutuoso and Rodrigo Rodrigues, Chapter 18 Genealogies.

Linda Borges Furtado Norton
Researching: Sao Miguel-Borges, Furtado, Rodrigues, de Almeida, de Andrade,
de Sousa, Caloura


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Rego Baldaia
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jacintho do Rego Baldaia

My name is Peter J. Baldaia, and I have been researching my family via
ancestry.com for the past few years. I am Azorean Portuguese on my father's
side. I am looking for more information on the do Rego Baldaia line. My
father was Joseph Rego Baldaia, born in Fall River, MA in 1923 and died in
Pawtucket, RI in 1975. His father was Francisco
(Frank) Rego Baldaia, born San Miguel, Azores in 1882 and died in Swansea,
MA in 1966. His father was Jacintho (Jesse) do Rego Baldaia, born 1841 in
Azores (probably San Miguel) and died after 1910 in Fall River, MA.

That's as far back as I've been able to go. I grew up in RI, but now live in
Huntsville, AL, so it is not possible for me to research primary records in
Fall River. The records I've found via the ancestry website indicate that
Jacintho arrived in the US in 1886 or 1887, but I have not been able to
locate a ship manifest. What has been fascinating to me is how many ways his
surname was listed. The Fall River City Directories initially lists Jesse in
the 1891 edition, where he appears as Jacintho Rego. In 1898 he is listed as
Jesse Drago (he is also listed this way in the 1900 Federal Census). In the
1905 City Directory he is listed as Jesse Rego Balday. In the 1910 Federal
Census he's listed as Jesse De Rego. I'm not sure why the name Baldaia

barely crops up-is that typical?

I have no sure record of Jesse after 1910, and don't know exact year of
death or where he was buried. I would love to be able to move back in time
through more distant generations from the Azores and (I'm
assuming) Portugal.

An interesting side note-I have recently had my YDNA tested to determine my


haplogroup and identify my distant paternal grandfather's people. It turns
out that I am in Haplogroup L (rare in Western Europe), and that I have a
very rare genetic marker that so far has only been identified in the Parsis
of India and Pakistan. It is surmised that my paternal line possibly arrived
in Portugal via Mediterranean traders from the Middle East - the other
possibility is a connection with the former Portuguese possessions on the
west coast of India.

This is all very interesting to me as I was told as a child that our family
descended from the Moors (my grandmother's nickname for my grandfather was
"Sheik" as she thought his distant family was Arabian.
My DNA indicates that this was clearly not the case!

Any help you can provide would be much appreciated!

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Richard Francis Pimentel

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Dec 21, 2010, 6:44:29 AM12/21/10
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I Just checked my data base and I have found the name combination Rego
Baldaia in some of the records of Nossa Senhora da Estrela in Ribeira
Grande, Sao Miguel. These records were around 1800. I know I have seen the
combination in that area but do not have any name matches for your people.
The name combination was not always used some records only used "Rego" and
the next time you see that person he is refered to as "Rego Baldaia"

I can not help much more right now as all my stuff is packed up as we are
moving to Texas.

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel
Formaly of Epping, New Hampshire


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From: azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Rego Baldaia
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 9:18 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jacintho do Rego Baldaia

My name is Peter J. Baldaia, and I have been researching my family via
ancestry.com for the past few years. I am Azorean Portuguese on my father's
side. I am looking for more information on the do Rego Baldaia line. My
father was Joseph Rego Baldaia, born in Fall River, MA in 1923 and died in
Pawtucket, RI in 1975. His father was Francisco
(Frank) Rego Baldaia, born San Miguel, Azores in 1882 and died in Swansea,
MA in 1966. His father was Jacintho (Jesse) do Rego Baldaia, born 1841 in
Azores (probably San Miguel) and died after 1910 in Fall River, MA.

That's as far back as I've been able to go. I grew up in RI, but now live in
Huntsville, AL, so it is not possible for me to research primary records in
Fall River. The records I've found via the ancestry website indicate that
Jacintho arrived in the US in 1886 or 1887, but I have not been able to
locate a ship manifest. What has been fascinating to me is how many ways his
surname was listed. The Fall River City Directories initially lists Jesse in
the 1891 edition, where he appears as Jacintho Rego. In 1898 he is listed as
Jesse Drago (he is also listed this way in the 1900 Federal Census). In the
1905 City Directory he is listed as Jesse Rego Balday. In the 1910 Federal
Census he's listed as Jesse De Rego. I'm not sure why the name Baldaia

barely crops up-is that typical?

I have no sure record of Jesse after 1910, and don't know exact year of
death or where he was buried. I would love to be able to move back in time
through more distant generations from the Azores and (I'm
assuming) Portugal.

An interesting side note-I have recently had my YDNA tested to determine my


haplogroup and identify my distant paternal grandfather's people. It turns
out that I am in Haplogroup L (rare in Western Europe), and that I have a
very rare genetic marker that so far has only been identified in the Parsis
of India and Pakistan. It is surmised that my paternal line possibly arrived
in Portugal via Mediterranean traders from the Middle East - the other
possibility is a connection with the former Portuguese possessions on the
west coast of India.

This is all very interesting to me as I was told as a child that our family
descended from the Moors (my grandmother's nickname for my grandfather was
"Sheik" as she thought his distant family was Arabian.
My DNA indicates that this was clearly not the case!

Any help you can provide would be much appreciated!

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Katharine

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Dec 21, 2010, 12:16:12 AM12/21/10
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I ran your inquiry past a friend who was born on São Miguel in the
1940s, who replied in part:

"Rego and Baldaia are known names in São Miguel... As for the
grandmother calling [her husband] 'Sheik,' I am afraid that he is
confusing [it] with the nickname 'Chico,' usually the diminuitive for
Francisco."

My amigo further suggests that you "contact the local Mormon Church
from which [you] can get the info on the microfiche birth certificate
files of all the islands."

Best of luck, Katharine.

George Pacheco

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Dec 21, 2010, 12:46:04 PM12/21/10
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Your Rego Baldaia are from Fenais da Luz
Francisco was born on 30 May 1882 in São Vicente Ferreira, Såo Miguel,
Açores died in May 1966 in Swansea Massachusetts

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George Pacheco

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Dec 21, 2010, 12:48:01 PM12/21/10
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I forgot Jacinto do Rego Baldaia and Maria Carolina are Francisco's parents

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Peter Baldaia

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Dec 21, 2010, 1:07:04 PM12/21/10
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Thanks for the info on my grandfather Francisco—I did not know for sure where he was born. Do you have anything else on his father Jacintho? I have his mother listed as Marina Cardina de Rego Baldaia—where did you get Maria Carolina from? 
Peter J. Baldaia

Cheri Mello

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Dec 21, 2010, 2:55:22 PM12/21/10
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Peter,

Are you reading from something handwritten?  The "d" in Cardina must be an "o" and "l" touching each other making a "d."  I haven't heard of Cardina being a Portuguese name, but I've heard of Carolina.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

John Raposo

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Dec 21, 2010, 6:43:33 PM12/21/10
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Dear Peter:
 
George Pacheco and Diana Silva have done some extensive research on the Rego Baldaia family. Both Carlos Machado and Rodrigo Rodrigues have also done some extensive research on that family. The Rego Baldaia are spread throughout S. Miguel, primarily, and are clustered around Lagoa and Fenais da Luz. S. Vicente neighbors Fenais da Luz. They are among the earliest families who settled on the island (See Frutuoso: Saudades da Terra ). You can either continue to do the work yourself or you could employ George Pacheco, whose rates are the most reasonable known to me.
 
Good luck and merry Christmas!
 
John Miranda Raposo


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George Pacheco

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Dec 21, 2010, 11:09:29 PM12/21/10
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I have her name from the Birth record and from the marriage record of
Jacinto i can also verify again from the original records, just to
make sure i didn't make an error on her name

Peter Baldaia

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Dec 21, 2010, 11:40:22 PM12/21/10
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Thanks George. I found Jacintho's death record tonight (21 Aug 1910) as well as Maria's (25 Mar 1904). Also found where he is buried (St. John's Cemetery in Fall River). Pretty exciting stuff!

Peter Baldaia

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Dec 29, 2010, 7:00:32 PM12/29/10
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Is there an on-line source to review the birth and marriage records of my great granparents, Jacinto do Rego Baldaia, and his wife, Maria Carolina?

Thanks,

Peter J. Baldaia

Cheri Mello

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Dec 29, 2010, 7:10:16 PM12/29/10
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Peter,

They will all be online one day at the Centro de Conhecimento dos Acores (CCA - translates to Center of Knowledge of the Azores).
http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/ig/
(Use any web browser except Firefox).

On the right, click on Registos Paroquias (Parish Registers).  From there you can see which island are done (Corvo, Flores, and Sao Jorge) and which ones are in progress (Pico, Sao Miguel, and Terceira).  Which leaves nothing yet for Santa Maria, Graciosa or Faial).

There is no published timeline for this project.  I think it's been going on for about 6 years now, maybe more.

George Pacheco

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Dec 30, 2010, 8:13:04 AM12/30/10
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For Jacinto's marriage you would have to go to your local Family
History center and order the film to view it there.
I believe it is still $5.50 for 30 day anw will stay at the fhc for
you to view ib 30 days

Peter Baldaia

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Dec 30, 2010, 8:32:57 AM12/30/10
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Thanks for the tip, George. I will check it out as there is apparently a fhc in Huntsville, AL where I now live.

Peter J. Baldaia
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