Luiz/Luis as a first or last name

[Cheri Mello]

The name Luiz/Luis as a name was mentioned on another thread.  So the topic of the other thread doesn't become taken over and become completely off topic, I started a new thread by beginning a new email.

In my database, I have 19 people of Portuguese descent with the first name of Luis or Luiz.  I have 27 people of Portuguese descent with the last name of Luis or Luiz.  Since I have no one with that name migrating to America, I don't see any Anglicization of the name.

I need to figure out how many people I have in my database of Portuguese descent.  I merged it together many years ago with my mom's Ozark lines.  Should have never done that.  If I had it separate, I would know what percentage of people that I have with the name of Luis/Luiz and that would let me know how common it is.  It seems it my family to be of medium frequency (based on my research). 


Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

[pi...@dholmes.com]

Hi Cheri,

I don't have a lot of practice making a gedcom, but I believe if you were to name the person who will be number 1 in a new gedcom and then create one that divides up those with Portuguese vs. other ancestry, I think you can once again have a nearly 100% Portuguese gedcom.

I do think you might also have to list all descendants of particular oldest ancestors from the non-Portuguese side in order not to miss anyone.

But for me, I don't bother separating them. If I want to know a count, I can use the search with specific criteria. Maybe I can ask for anyone born in Portugal who died in the USA. But this might take some location name revisions on your part. If you don't always name "USA" as part of the location, you can't use that one. You might have to convert all to include USA first.

If I have someone who was born in Pico and want to know how many died in Sacramento, that's easy. And also if I name California it's easy. But if I want all 50 states, I don't use USA on most of my locations. I think the only time I do it is when I don't know exactly where in the USA. I might have their death location as "USA ??." or without the question marks if I'm sure, but still don't know which state.

I have 511 people born on Pico who died in Sacramento, according to my search just now.

Not sure how clearly I've described my idea...

Doug da Rocha Holmes
Sacramento, California
Pico & Terceira Genealogist
916-550-1618

www.dholmes.com

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[Lionel Holmes]

Cheri,

I have several Luiz/Luis in my files of Sacramento families, and many who Anglicized the name to Lewis.

Lionel

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[Pam Santos]

Yes I also have a Emily Luiz who anglicized it to Emily Lewis she married into my Santos line and died in San Jose, CA

[Cakem...@aol.com]

My grandfather came to the United States in the early 1880's.  His name was Francisco Jose Luiz(s) from Pedro Miguel, Faial.    It is spelled Luiz on this gravestone here in Sacramento, Ca.   However, as of the 1900 census, he was already going by Frank Lewis and all of his descendants have used the Lewis surname instead of Luiz.

 

Mary Ann M. 

 

In a message dated 3/28/2013 9:54:53 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, gfsc...@gmail.com writes:

The name Luiz/Luis as a name was mentioned on another thread.  So the topic of the other thread doesn't become taken over and become completely off topic, I started a new thread by beginning a new email.

In my database, I have 19 people of Portuguese descent with the first name of Luis or Luiz.  I have 27 people of Portuguese descent with the last name of Luis or Luiz.  Since I have no one with that name migrating to America, I don't see any Anglicization of the name.

I need to figure out how many people I have in my database of Portuguese descent.  I merged it together many years ago with my mom's Ozark lines.  Should have never done that.  If I had it separate, I would know what percentage of people that I have with the name of Luis/Luiz and that would let me know how common it is.  It seems it my family to be of medium frequency (based on my research). 


Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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[Lynn]

Luiz/Luis as a first or last name:  

Does "da or de" in the Portuguese language indicate a name such as my gr.grandmother's, Maria da Luz (de Luiz ), as being different entirely from the "Luiz/Luiz" name in this thread?  

My Maria/Mary da Luz/ de Luiz was born @ 1882 Santa Maria Island to Manuel Cabral and Anna Alves; Immigrated @ 1903 to Massachusettes; Married 24 Jul 1905 to William Caton/Caetano; Died @ 1918 possibly in Provincetown or Fairhaven, Massachusetts.

I have not had much practice in GEDCOM.  I hope I posted my uncle's and my brother's GEDCOM correctly at FTDNA. 

Sincerely, Lynn Pritchett

Azorean family names of: Alves, Cabral, Caton/Caetano, Braga/Bragg, da Luz/ de Luiz,  Rodrigues, Silva

[Cheri Mello]

Lynn,

The Anglicization of Luiz/Luis is probably Lewis.  The translation of "da Luz" is "of the light."  So Maria da Luz would be Mary of the Light, indicating her middle, religious name.

[Lynn]

Cheri, Thank you for reminding me of the "da Luz" translation. May I ask if you might help me confirm another suspicion on this subject, please?

Since my Maria da Luz's marriage record shows her parents as Manuel Cabral and Anna Alves, should I be looking for her under both those names as possibilities for her maiden name? I think I recall one of the lectures at our first Azorean Conference in SLC, that maiden names/children's surnames may not be of their father or mother, given the island practices of naming in the 1880s?  

Sincerely, 

Lynn Pritchett

[JR]

I recall that you are using the Master Genealogist Program. If memory serves, you can call up or create a list or Gedcom using almost any criteria. I did this when I used it way back when. If you are not sure, just email the support staff and I am sure they will assist you.

JR