People with Faial ancestry

[Cheri Mello]

If you have your lineage going back to Faial, you really need to be DNA tested. The Azores DNA Project doesn't have that many people with Faial ancestry testing.

And if you think that just because NEPS has most of it online so there's no point in DNA testing, yes there is.

1) Not everything is on NEPS

2) Humans read the records. They make mistakes.

3) Humans did the data entry into NEPS. Another chance to make a mistake.

4) You could match someone else and make a connection that wouldn't have happened without the DNA. You'll have a new cousin and your match will be forever thankful that you DNA tested.

The Family Finder is regularly $99, on sale for $89, and there are $10 off coupons floating around. So it's $79 and then $9.95 for postage (includes return postage back to Texas if you reside in America).

Cheri Mello
Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)

Azores DNA project

[R Mac]

I know for sure my great, great grandfather was from Faial. The only DNA sample I have is mine. I have the raw data. Is there a site available for upload?? I also have a U4 marker which from what I understand is rare.

Thanks,
Robert

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[Cheri Mello]

It is best to test the oldest generation. If the parent who has the Faial ancestry is alive, test that person. If you have access to a sibling of the grandparent generation, test that person. If not, you are it.

I don't know what company you tested with or approximate date you tested. Or what type of DNA test you took. I need that information or I can't tell you what to do next.

Thanks,

Cheri

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

[R Mac]

Hi, Cheri

Only my siblings and I are left in the family so that is all we have to choose from. Since I am a close descendant of my grandfather who came from Faial, I would be the only one left. I had my DNA tested a couple of years ago through 23andme.com and took their standard test,  which produced a lot of information. As for the specific type of test I took I am unsure but it evaluated all 23 DNA strands. And it was U7 not U4 as I thought (I double checked on the 23 and me site.

Thanks,

Robert 

[Cheri Mello]

Robert,

The only people eligible to transfer from 23 and Me are the people who tested with the v3 chip that was used on tests sold between November 2010 and November 2013. There are a couple of ways to find out what chip was used for your test other than simply the timeframe. One is size; v3 chip files are about 7.83 MB where v2 and v4 chips are smaller. If you’re tech savvy, you can unzip the file and check chromosomes: Chromosome 1 for v3 starts at 82154 (rs4477212) where v4 starts at 734462 (rs12564807) and v2 starts with position 742429 (rs3094315).

This chip is for Family Finder. This is autosomal DNA that transfers (given the parameters above). Your Y or mtDNA haplogroup of U7 (you did not specify) will not transfer.

If you fit the time frame (or can figure it out from the raw data file), then it's $39 to transfer. No coupon codes for this.

If you don't fit the time frame, you will have to start fresh with FTDNA. That's not a bad thing at all.

Cheri

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

[Edna Epps]

I have a lot of family from Faial on my Mother’s side.  Mostly de Faria and Mattos, but a lot of other names as well.  I have a lot of my family tested on Ancestry and also on FTDNA.  I’ve also uploaded all the DNA tests to GEDMATCH.   You can email directly and maybe I can help.

Edna Lemos Epps

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[debra jaynes]

if you have loaded your data to gedmatch it will have your chip type right next to your name.

[R Mac]

Hi, Cheri

After checking the raw data file, I have confirmed it was the V3 chip that was used. The U7 was on my mother's side, which makes sense, since the relative from Faial was on that side of the tree.

Hope this helps.

Robert

[Cheri Mello]

Robert,

You then qualify to transfer to FTDNA for $39 (there is a free transfer, but it's limited).

I believe the directions and the link to the transfer site are here: https://goo.gl/mI4OEr

You may not get the results back until early next week (they need to sync your DNA to the FTDNA database). If you upload/transfer this weekend, then you'll get the results back midweek.

Cheri

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

[A Faria]

It is true that many people in the project don't appear to Faial ancestry but is is also extremely frustrating and disappointing that a huge percentage of people in the project don't bother to list the island or freguesia that their maternal or paternal ancestor is from.

[BellaMae]

It was recommend that I visit this website by a DNA cousin. I have three grandparents from Faial. I have had DNA testing done on 23andme. If there is anything I can do to help others I will be glad to share. I have a family tree as well.

[Cheri Mello]

If your cousins have not DNA tested, they need to do so.

You can transfer your DNA from 23andMe to FTDNA only if it is the v.3 chip (you tested with 23 and Me between Nov. 2010 and Nov. 2013

We have 1000+ people of Azorean descent who have tested with FTDNA.

Cheri Mello

Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)

Azores DNA Project

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 11:48 PM, BellaMae <bella...@gmail.com> wrote:

It was recommend that I visit this website by a DNA cousin. I have three grandparents from Faial. I have had DNA testing done on 23andme. If there is anything I can do to help others I will be glad to share. I have a family tree as well.

[Bellla]

The 'DNA cousin I have never met- I was contacted via Internet after showing up on a DNA match. My few family cousins are not interesting in testing or genealogy to date. I am willing to share what I have, haplogroup etc. Three grandparents are from Faial (my mtDNA is from Faial) the fourth grandparent is from the continent of Portugal. I was born in New England with relatives in Mass and RI and others in California. I have lived in RI Mass and Calif growing up. I am presently living in Faial. If I can help anyone just let me know!

[Cheri Mello]

To maximize your help, transfer your DNA from 23andMe to FTDNA (if on the v3 chip - tested between Nov 2010-Nov 2013). If you  have tested outside of those dates you'll have to order a new kit from FTDNA. The main sale ended about 10 hours ago, but the coupons for $10 are good through Sunday at 11:59 pm CST (test is normally $99).

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 10:05 AM, Bellla <bella...@gmail.com> wrote:

The 'DNA cousin I have never met- I was contacted via Internet after showing up on a DNA match. My few family cousins are not interesting in testing or genealogy to date. I am willing to share what I have, haplogroup etc. Three grandparents are from Faial (my mtDNA is from Faial) the fourth grandparent is from the continent of Portugal. I was born in New England with relatives in Mass and RI and others in California. I have lived in RI Mass and Calif growing up. I am presently living in Faial. If I can help anyone just let me know!

[Patricia Butcher]

Hi Bella,
Glad to see you on the list. Using  Gedmatch we learned we are 7th cousins through our Cedros & Capelo, Faial ancestors. It took a while comparing & sharing our trees but it is so  exciting to see each record that connects us.

Patricia Butcher

Researching Pico & Faial

On Jan 1, 2016 10:41 AM, "Bellla" <bella...@gmail.com> wrote:

The 'DNA cousin I have never met- I was contacted via Internet after showing up on a DNA match. My few family cousins are not interesting in testing or genealogy to date. I am willing to share what I have, haplogroup etc. Three grandparents are from Faial (my mtDNA is from Faial) the fourth grandparent is from the continent of Portugal. I was born in New England with relatives in Mass and RI and others in California. I have lived in RI Mass and Calif growing up. I am presently living in Faial. If I can help anyone just let me know!

[dwoo...@aol.com]

Bella,

My grandfather was from Faial and came to Jamestown, Rhode Island when he was 13 years old.   His name was Manuel Furtado Dutra.   Just curious to see if you have any Furtado, Dutra members in your family tree.

Thanks,

Donna Dutra Wood

 

 

 

[Bellla]

Hi Donna, Yes, I have both names several times by the three Avo's - Furtado - one was my paternal grandmothers dad originally from Sao Miguel and moved to Faial. Others from north of the island. Dutra I have many. My maternal Vava has Dutra back to D' Ultra. She is from Castelo Branco and her family goes back to the Flanders Belgium folks. My other grandparents from Salao (before that Cedros) have Dutras as well. I want to add, my records may not be that helpful I only have a bit over 1000 and direct descendants (all my great grands so to speak) back to 15/1600s. I have none of their siblings and only some of my grts-grand children. I have been trying to fill in the siblings as it has been challenging to be contacted by a DNA cousin only to try and figure out how we connect. There are several hundred showing up as DNA cousins (my test was with 23andme) but we have to go back to 18-1500s to find who our mutual grandparents are. A person here native to Faial that works on genealogy told me I have "many, many, many cousins" all over Faial and the Azores because two of my grandparents are from original families that arrived. It became overwhelming. With my limited tree I will help if there is anything I can do but I don't go online much, or visit groups regularly. I pop on FB more often now in the Azores group, check my emai but even that sometimes a month has gone by before I logged on. I stay very busy with life in Faial but am willing to share! :) Di-

[Shirley Allegre]

Hi Bella: I am doing some research for my husband's cousin. His name is
Melvin Silva, Jr. His grandfather was John Silva. I have managed to get a
copy of JOHN COSTA SILVA's death certificate here in California. It lists
John's parents as Thomas Silva from Azores and Mary E. from Azores.
This is what I have so far:
Thomas Silva X Maria "Mary" E. Costs:
CHILDREN
John Costa Silva
dob 2 Feb 1881, Faial, Azores (Don't know which village.), died 22 May
1954, Alameda County, California
Isabel Silva of San Leandro, California
Marianna Silva, Faial, Azores
Manuel Silva, Faial, Azores

So far I have looked in EVERY village for a Thomas Silva that had a son,
Joao who was born 2 Feb 1881. I haven't found anything.

If you should happen to find any info on these people, I would really
appreciate hearing from you.
Thank you in advance.
P.S. Where did you live in California. My father's family is from Alameda
County. My mother's family is from Santa Clara County.

Shirley in CA

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From: "Bellla" <bella...@gmail.com>
To: "Azores Genealogy" <azo...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] People with Faial ancestry

[Mike]

Hi Bella,

if you're related to Patricia then there's a chance that you're related to me as well as my Ggrandfather was from Cedros, Faial and another line with my GGgrandpa is also from Faial. The surnames are Pinheiro and Pereira respectively. I am part of the Azores DNA project.

Mike

[BrendaSP]

I have Faial and I've tested my dad.

[Cheri Mello]

Brenda SP,

You are part of the Azores DNA project, but not your dad (I don't think). Can you add him?

Cheri

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 9:32 AM, BrendaSP <bpire...@gmail.com> wrote:

I have Faial and I've tested my dad.

[netado...@aol.com]

Shirely -

Was Melvin Silva, Jr from the Castro Valley/Hayward area? 

 

AVA
Vieira Anselmo of Ribeira Seca, Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel Island
Pinheiro/Nunes of Praia do Almoxarife, Faial Island

 

[netado...@aol.com]

Hi Donna -

Please write me off lie regarding your Wood line.

Thank You,

 

AVA   netado...@aol.com

Vieira Anselmo of Ribeira Seca, Ribeira Grande,

Sao Miguel Island

Pinheiro/Nunes of Praia do Almoxarife, Faial Island

 

In a message dated 1/2/2016 4:23:23 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, azo...@googlegroups.com writes:

Bella,

My grandfather was from Faial and came to Jamestown, Rhode Island when he was 13 years old.   His name was Manuel Furtado Dutra.   Just curious to see if you have any Furtado, Dutra members in your family tree.

Thanks,

Donna Dutra Wood

 

 

 

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From: Bellla <bella...@gmail.com>
To: Azores Genealogy <azo...@googlegroups.com>

Sent: Fri, Jan 1, 2016 1:41 pm

Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] People with Faial ancestry

The 'DNA cousin I have never met- I was contacted via Internet after showing up on a DNA match. My few family cousins are not interesting in testing or genealogy to date. I am willing to share what I have, haplogroup etc. Three grandparents are from Faial (my mtDNA is from Faial) the fourth grandparent is from the continent of Portugal. I was born in New England with relatives in Mass and RI and others in California. I have lived in RI Mass and Calif growing up. I am presently living in Faial. If I can help anyone just let me know!

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[BrendaSP]

Oh didn't realize that I will add him.

[Kamw710]

My maternalgreat grandfather Jose de Moreas was born in Horts Fayal
November 6, 1863

[Betty Fredericks]

Sorry I haven't participated in this Group for a while.    *     I just wanted to mention that my husband's great-grandmother was born ~1870 on Faial.   She was Philomena Augusta da ROSA.    She married there and they had their 5+ children there.   Her husband was Francisco MOURA, reportedly from Sao Miguel.    Bob is from the daughter, Mrs. Elsita "Elsie" (MOURA) PACHECO, always of Cambridge, MA, after marrying.      We are now in our 70's and on Soc. Sec., and cannot afford DNA tests.    One child of "Grandma Elsie" is still living, but - not interested.  

Betty                  (on genealogy and on-line I use my previous name, but I am also Mrs. Pacheco)

*
I've been spending a lot of time on the Facebook group for the Azores.    I'll post something about the MEDEIROS cousin later in the day.    (Involving another daughter of  "Frank" and "Phoebe" (da ROSA) MOURA.       And, Laurindo da ROSA was the father, and Phoebe also had 2 brothers in Cambridge, MA.  

On Tuesday, December 15, 2015 at 4:32:03 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:

[jpine1...@gmail.com]

Bella-      My name is Joe Pine and I have been researching my family tree for  the past year. I have found that my paternal grandparents were both born in Salao, Faial. My grandfather was Salvador Silveira Pinheiro, born on July 15,1884, emigrated in 1912 to Providence,RI. He changed his surname to Pine at that point. He married my grandmother in Bristol,RI and eventually moved  to Falmouth,MA to raise his family.My grandmother was Guilhermina Oliveira da Silva,and born on Oct. 24,1883. She emigrated to Providence,RI in 1914. I grew up in Falmouth and retired to Arizona 10 years ago. I see that you lived in MA and are living in Faial now. My brother and I would like to visit Faial this year or next year. I would enjoy hearing from you. You could contact me by email , gra...@yahoo.com. I have also done the FTDNA test, so we may have some common ancestors. In addition to my grandparents surnames, I've found Rodrigues, Simas, de Freitas, Da Rosa, Pereira, Mendonca, Medeiros, and Correia. Most of these appear to be near Salao. I look forward to hearing from you or any others that think there is a familial connection.

[Kamw710]

Cheri,
Where can i access the info for dna testing? My mums paternal side (my grandfather) are from The Azores, Faial included.
Thank you,
Kathy-Anne Whitehouse

[Cheri Mello]

Kathy-Anne,

Here's the link:

goo.gl/GCreTM

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

[Kamw710]

Thank you Cheri.
I will be looking into this. Will probably need some advice as I delve further.