Faded name of child and questioning mother's name

[Maria Lima]

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http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-RELVA-B-1726-1734/SMG-PD-RELVA-B-1726-1734_item1/P12.html

Is the child Anna, daughter of Manoel de Souza and Izabel de Lima
(Or could be de Oliveira?). I want it to be Lima 😆 ...natives of NS das Neves born in March 1727.

I hope someone is able to read this better. Going crossed eye and tried playing with the photo to darken and lighten but it's just a challenging record for me.

Thanks!!

Maria Elena

[Sandra Perez]

I see Manoel George de Sousa.  cannot make out the rest.

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Sandra Perez

[JR]

Anna, filha legitima de Manoel de Souza e de Izabel de Lima naturais desta lugar de Relva freg, de NS das Neves naceo emos vinte e coatro dias de mez marso de mil sete centos e vinte sete foi baptizada ... em trinta de dito mez... foi Padrinhos, Manoel da Costa e Victoria de Souza naturais e freg. desta lugar...

JR

[Maria Lima]

WOW, JR!  That's amazing how u read all that.  Thank you.  I wanted to know all the the names mentioned but was hesitant to ask for too much; so it was my hope to know the names of the godparents too and he were kind enough to give be the whole thing.   Thank you so much:). 

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[Sandra Perez]

JR, did you see George (Manoel George de Sousa) there?  I am beginning to think I need new glasses

[linda]

Using my phone, I see:

"Anna filha legitima de Manoel de Souza e Izabel de lima[???]..."

Linda

[linda]

with appologies-- I somehow missed that the record had been transcribed!

:/
L.

[Maria Lima]

Linda- thank u so much for helping me on this
Maria Elena

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[linda meneses]

I hope I can help you another time too! (Maybe with a record that's not already all done :)

:)

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[Denise]

Maria Elena,

Is anyone in your family using Costa Lima? My family from Relva used Lima and Costa Lima.

Denise D'Antona

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[Maria Lima]

Yes, Denise:

That is a great question because I was tracing where my husband's Lima name came from- or at least the first in the Azores I could find.  His gr gr gr gr grandmother was Izabel de Lima born in around 1698-1700.  Married Manoel da Souza (Tramocinho) sometimes also called Manoel de Souza Oiliveira.  

Just last week I posted a question on the List  regarding her parents Joao da Costa X  Anna Martins.  Another lister replied and he said was descended from Joao da Costa X Anna Martins, married in Relva in3 June 1694.  He descends through their son Manoel.    

We corresponded "off list"  and he wrote that Joao da Costa also went by Joao da Costa LIMA and perhaps that's where Izabel de Lima picked up the name.  I had not seen any record of that in their children's names but it is right there in 

I could never find Izabel's birth but I found all her siblings.  But I have her marriage.  I a, now trying to find all her children.  

So I've seen the name LIMA's in those records but could not link them to Joao da Costa.  Here's the marriage record of one of Joao da Costa's children where it gives Joao's name as Joao da Costa Lima. 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1708-1732/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1708-1732_item1/P90.html

Maybe we need a new thread on the name Lima and Costa Lima from Relva (?). 

Do you have some Costa Lima's that might connect?  I'm just starting with this family of Joao.  Our "new Cousin" from this List sent me a GEDCOM but I can't open it.  I'm trying to learn how to open a GEDCOM.  I always put everything on familysearch.org. 

Warm regards,

Maria Elena 

[Denise]

Hi Maria Elena, 

The family of that gentleman you're corresponding with is my family too! 

I would like to take this off list for a while and work with you on it. 

My personal email is Denis...@aol.com

Denise D'Antona

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