Important for descendants of Willhelm Vander Haeghen!!!!

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Kathy Cardoza

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Mar 15, 2011, 2:24:24 PM3/15/11
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A researcher by the name of André Claeys has been contributing his research to the Azores GenWeb site for the last several years. He just sent me some information that will be of interest to anyone that claims Willem Vander Haeghen as an ancestor.

Mr. Claeys sent this: "Will you please publish this announcement about De Kersemaker. It explains that there has never been a Willem Vander Haeghen on the Açores. His real name was Willem de Kersemakere.
This might be quite a shock for the da Silveira, but after more the 500 years we finally know the exact name of the commun ancester. This correction is important."

He is currently traveling to and from Belgium, but plans (in April) to "share new and definitive text about the Vlamingen op de Azoren sinds de 15de eeuw in 3 volumes, the last one being about Willem de Kersemakere instead of Willem Vander Haeghen. It certainly will be a shock for the more than 10.000 descendants da Silveira, but they will have to accept the reality. The da Silveira are not the descendants of a son of the duke of Bourgondia and Margarida was not a descendant of the dukes of Savoie as James H.. Guill pretended. He never consulted the archives of the town of Bruges."

I am not vouching for the validity of his work so cannot say if it is accurate or not. That is for you to judge so please don't shoot the messenger! He is willing to share his work so I post it on the Azores GenWeb site in the hope it will help someone.

To see the complete text of his correction and more about his research, go to: http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/Flemish_history.html

Kathy Cardoza
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Dano

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Mar 16, 2011, 12:50:28 AM3/16/11
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Mr. Claeys has recently provided a good deal of information about
Flemish surnames, however, claims of this nature which greatly impact
accepted genealogical history need to be vetted. Until another
reputable genealogist confirms, and certifies this claim to be
factual, it remains only an unsubstatiated allegation by someone
hoping to sell a book. Silveira descendants should not accept it as
fact until and unless Mr. Claeys' claim has been verified...

John Raposo

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Mar 16, 2011, 6:37:39 AM3/16/11
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Although Dano has a good point, I would suggest that the claim to descent from Margaret of Savoie was never verified, either. These mistaken claims are not uncommon and are made even by the greatest luminaries. Saudades da Terra has its share of false claims and mistakes can be found in Rodrigo Rodrigues as well in the recent genealogies pertaining to Terceira, Corvo, Flores, Faial and Pico. (S. Jorge and Graciosa await publication.) In Rodrigues Rodrigues there is absolutely no mention of Marguerite's ancestry and it gives her family name as Sabya or Zambuja. Neither is there any reference to noble lineage in the massive genealogical volumes by Mendes and Forjaz. I would suggest putting this new information in the notes section for Marguerite until the matter is clarified.
 
John

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Kathy Cardoza

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Mar 16, 2011, 9:31:00 AM3/16/11
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I agree that this information needs to be verified before anyone accepts it as fact.... just as we should do with all new information that comes our way. Hence my disclaimer.

However, I would like to clarify one point here .....Mr. Claeys has told me that he is not interested in writing any books for publication so that he is not "hoping to sell a book." He is a scholar and seems to only be interested in research and uncovering the truth on this subject of the Flemish to the Azores. And to that end, he wants his research to be shared with anyone interested in it. If his only purpose was to sell a book, then why would he make his work freely available on my web site?

Kathy


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"E" Sharp

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Mar 16, 2011, 12:01:20 PM3/16/11
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Sounds to me like Mr. Claeys is someone who is seriously interested in
getting the facts right. When I was researching a branch of my
family, one family member was so excited as she believed her branch
descended from Charlemagne and she was going to claim this no matter
what. Personally, I failed to see what difference it made because I
was descended from wonderful parents and grandparents.

"E"

Marcio Borba

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Mar 19, 2011, 2:00:27 PM3/19/11
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Willem de Kersemakere

This would make total sense once some of his descendants used the surname Casmaca, which sounds like Kersemakere. I think you need to know the portuguese language to understand how similar it sounds

André Claeys information is based on what?

Marcio Borba
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