Furtado/Pimentel, Achada--help with names on marriage record please

[IslandRoutes]

I have finally found the marriage record for my ancestors Antonio Furtado (aka Antonio Furtado Resendes) and Maria de Pimentel.  They were married in 1755, Achada.  Unfortunately, it's one of the worst records in this set.  I can make out all the names except for Antonio's mother and Maria's father.  I already have Antonio's mother's name from another record (Thereze Furtada).  But, I don't have Maria's father's name.  I can make out Manoel and it looks like it ends in do.  Can anyone makes sense of the last name in the dark blot?   I looked at it on both my computer and tablet.  As large as I can make it, I still can't make sense of it. Thanks in advance for the help!

Here is the link:

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADA-C-1733-1755/SMG-ND-ACHADA-C-1733-1755_item1/P60.html

(In case the link doesn't work, it is image 0060 in marriags 1733-1755 for Achada, entry on the right hand side)

[Cheri Mello]

If they would have scanned the actual record instead of the microfilm, you wouldn't see the wash/solution.

They are not in my database.  :(

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

[Margaret Vicente]

They're also my ancestors:

Antonio Furtado Rezende with Maria de Pimentel

Marriage date: Mar 2 1755

Antonio's parents: Manuel Pereira and Teresa Furtado (the record reads in the feminine form Furtada)

Maria's parents: Manuel de Rezendes and Maria de Pimentel.

Antonio was born in Achada on Mar 21 1727

1. Antonio Furtado Rezende (Manuel5, Domingos4, Francisco de3, Gaspar2, Gaspar1) was born on Mar. 21, 1727 in N. Sra da Anunciacao, Achada and died Before May 1, 1798. 

Margaret

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[IslandRoutes]

Margaret,

Excellent!  I've got cousins popping out all over.  Can I ask what source you have for Maria's parents?  (Maybe you have a better copy of the marriage record than the one I linked to online).  Also, which of their children to you connect to?  I am a descendant of Antonia Pimentel who married Joze Furtado, 29 May 1791, Achada.

On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:50:50 PM UTC-7, Mara wrote:

[Margaret Vicente]

Hi,

Source is from the CCA records, same link as you provided above which I had anteriorly researched.  Reading from the left side of the record their names are 5 lines below the blotted area and can be clearly seen.  It also says the brides mother was already deceased.

Hope this helps. 

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[Margaret Vicente]

Sorry, was short 1 answer: Descendent of their daughter Maria de Rezendes married to Manuel Homem Rebelo Nov 22 1778, S. Pedro Nordestinho.

Antonia was born April 26 1768 and baptised on May 2nd 1768, in case you may not have it yet.

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[Judi Phillips]

Manoel Homen Rebelo and Maria de Resendes are my 4th great grandparents.  Their daughter Maria de Resendes married Jose Furtado 08 June 1818 in Achada.  My line continues to Pedreira.

Judi Phillips

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[Margaret Vicente]

Hi Judy, and I,  their daughter Mariana de Resendes married with Manuel Raposo Dec 27 1818 in S. Pedro, Nordestinho where the groom was from.

Margaret Vicente

[IslandRoutes]

Margaret,
Your eyes or your screen must be better than mine.  What I see is "Maria de Pementel filha de Manoel de..." and then the rest is dark on that line ending in de or do continuing next line e de sua mulher Maria de Pementel (she is deceased).  I will take your word for it that it is Rezende since I can't make it out one way or another on my PC or my tablet.

I do have Antonia's birth/bapt info.  I have 7 children for them total.  I didn't have Maria's marriage yet, so thanks for that information.  I may have more on this line as I'm still inputting the research that I've done on this line.

Thanks for your help!

[IslandRoutes]

Jude,
Looks like you and I are also related.  Antonia de Pementel m. Joze Furtado was Maria de Resendes' (m. Manoel Homem Rebello) sister.  My line stays in Achada.  Here is my link on WikiTree for this line:
http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Pimentel-Family-Tree-29

Melody

[Judi Phillips]

Mel and Margaret,  

I haven't done much on this line in a while and I can't find my records to add much to what you have.  When I saw your post, I knew there was a connection, just needed to find it.  The Furtados, Pimentels and Resendes intermarried a lot, so it gets confusing.  I'm sure there are more connections to find.  I have work to do!

Judi

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[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Hi Melody,

 

Somewhere in this mix we most likely have a connection. My 6^th great grandmother is Heronima de Pimentel daughter of Domingo de Pimentel b. c1657 and Maria ? b. c1659. This is the link for the marriage of Heronima and Braz de Costa Loureio on 8 May 1700. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADA-C-1690-1728/SMG-ND-ACHADA-C-1690-1728_item1/P32.html

 

Their son Domingo de Pimentel married Antonia de Resendes on 29 Jun 1746. She was the daughter of Sebastiao Machado and Isabel de Resendes.

 

Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Rockingham County, NH

 

[IslandRoutes]

Richard,
As yet, I don't have those people in my database.  However, I know I have seen the names and I am still working through my notes comparing them to my database.  I have a Heronyma Pimentel, but she is daughter of Manoel Correa Symas and Agueda (aka Agada) Pimentel. She married Manoel Furtado in Achada 9 Dec 1713.  I also have a Domingas Pimentel but he is son of Sebastiam Pimentel and Barbara de Rezende.  This Domingas also married a Barbara de Rezende (though same time period).  Close but not close enough!

I am curious about Braz Costa Loureiro.  I have Costa Loureiro in Maia in the 1600 and 1700s.  Does Braz link to Maia?

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

I seem to recall that there are two Braz de Costa Lourieo from Maia mine is the Son of Joao de Costa Loureio and Maria Bultao Braz was baptized on 2 Feb 1670.

 

Right now all my notes are in storage until we move into our new house.

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[JR]

Not quite. One is Bras da Costa who married Margarida Oliveira and the other is your (you share this one) Bras da Costa Loureiro who married Jeronima Pimentel in Achada. There was some confusion initially but it has been sorted out. The first are from Povoacao and settled in Furnas, but appeared in the records of Maia. The latter are mostly from Achada. There is also a Bras da Costa Furtado who married in Povoacao and appeared in Ponta Garca and Maia. 

JR

[Dano]

One further point of clarification: The Braz da Costa that married Margarida de Oliveira, was the son of  Braz da Costa Furtado x Maria Pacheco (that is the source from which Maria Furtado, dau. of the former couple, and wife of Antonio de Pimentel of Faial da Terra, derived the Furtado surname). All but one of the children of Antonio and Maria married and lived in Ponta Garca.

[mances]

Rick,

Jeronima de Pimentel, daughter of Domingos de Pimentel and Maria Luiz, is in the RR's book on chapter 240.

Domingos de Pimentel is the son of Antonio de Azevedo Tavares and Jeronima de Oliveira (RR - c.139), and the grandson of Sebastião Rebelo Leitão and Francisca Soares de Albergaria who are my ancestors too.

The surname Pimentel of Jeronima de Pimentel comes from her grandmother Jeronima de Oliveira who is a descendant of the famous João Afonso, das Grotas Fundas.

Manoel 

[Shirley Allegre]

I descend from 842 Braz da Costa, son of 1684 Antonio Machado X 1685 Maria da Roe.  842 Braz, was baptised in February 1680, in Povoacao.

Braz's wife was 843 Margarida de Oliveira Furtada, daughter of 1686 Francisco Rabello X 1687 Maria Furtada.  Maria was baptised in February 1685, in Povoacao.

 

Shirley in CA

[IslandRoutes]

Rick and others,
I don't have the Braz de Costa Loureiro from Maia in my database.  I do have Costa Loureiro's.  This is a snippet of the line that I have from Maia:

1-Joao da Costa LOUREIRO-6820
b: 1642, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl.
d: 4 December 1721, Maia, Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel Island
+Maria VULTOA-6821
b: about 1644, Maia, Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel Island
m: about 1667
d: 4 December 1721
. . . . 2-Antonio da Costa LOUREIRO-6816
        b: 12 January 1683, Maia, Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel Island
. . . . +Maria da Costa PIMENTEL-6817
        b: Maia, Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel Island
        m: 14 February 1707, Maia, Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel Island
. . . . . . . . 3-Jose da Costa LOUREIRO-2062
                b: 17 January 1716, Maia, Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel Island
. . . . . . . . +Maria de MEDEIROS-2064
                b: about 1720, Maia, Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel Island
                m: 23 April 1742, Maia, Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel Island
. . . . . . . . . . . . 4-Josefa de MEDEIROS-2070
                        b: about 1755, Maia, Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel Island

Eventually this connects to my 3rd great grandfather, Felicianno Francisco de Mello (aka de Mello Castanho) m. Rosa Jacintha Boteilho.

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Hi Melody,

 

Your Joao da Costa Loureiro (6820)  is my 7^th Great Grandfather. My Braz da Costa Loureiro is the brother of your Antonio da Costa Loureiro (6816). What would be interesting would be to see if their wives , your Maria da Costa Pimentel (6817) and my Heronima (Jeronima) de Pimentel are related as well.

 

Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Rockingham County, NH

 

 

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Rick and others,

[JR]

I'm afraid they do not link up, at least as far as the records go. It is interesting that a third brother, Manuel da Costa Loureiro, also used the name Columbreiro. I suspect that one of his grandparents are Columbreiro's, perhaps from Achada, where many early Columbreiro's settled. In fact I have Joao da Costa Columbreiro as native of Achada, resident of Maia. I found references to Joao Costa Loureiro in Ribeira Grande, where it appears he lived for a while and his spouse, Maria Vultoa or Benevides, sometimes used the name Benevides. Unfortunately, I cannot find my notes!!

JR