Catarina Afonso & Goncalo Anes
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celeste perry
Jun 25, 2010, 3:18:16 PM6/25/10
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Manoel,
Here is how I descend from Catarina.
Descendants of SIMAO de SE
1 SIMAO de SE b: Abt. 1400 in Porto, Portugal/Geo. Pacheco
. 2 GONCALO ANES b: Abt. 1420 in Cernandessa, Portugal/Geo. Pacheco
....... +CATARINE AFONSO b: Abt. 1420 in Porto, Portugal/Geo. Pacheco
..... 3 Vilonate Goncalves b: Abt. 1440 in Rosario Lagoa, Sao Miguel, Azores/Geo. Pacheco
........... +Estevao Cabral ou de Travassos b: Abt. 1440 in Rosario, Lagoa, Sao Miguel/Geo. Pacheco m: Abt. 1535 in /Geo. Pacheco
..... 3 AFRICA ANES b: Abt. 1450 in Cernandessa, Portugal/Geo. Pacheco
........... +NUNO VELHO CABRAL b: Abt. 1430 m: in Santa Maria, Azores/Geo. Pacheco
........ 4 [92] GRIMANESA AFONSO MELO b: Abt. 1510 in Sao Sebastiao, Terceira, Azores/Geo. Pacheco
.............. +[93] LOURENCO ANES b: Abt. 1510 in Terceira/Sao Miguel, Azores/Geo. Pacheco
............ 5 [94] BRIOLANJA NUNES b: Abt. 1530
.................. +[95] MANUEL ROMEIRO b: Abt. 1530
............... 6 [96] ALEIXO ROMEIRO b: Abt. 1550 in Santa Maria, Azores
..................... +[97] ?
...................7 [98] VINCENTE ROMEIRO VELHO b: Abt. 1575 in Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras, Terceira, Azores/Joao/Geo Pacheco
.........................+[99] ANA da COSTA b: Abt. 1570 in Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras, Terceira, Azores/Joao/Geo Pacheco m: Bet. 1592 - 1593 in /Geo. Pacheco
......................8 [100] TOME da COSTA b: Dec 27, 1600 in Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras, Terceira, Azores/Joao**
............................+[101] CATARINA VAZ VELHO b: Abt. 1600 in NS da Conceicao, Terceira, Azores/Joao/Geo. Pacheco m: Jan 30, 1623 in NS da Conceicao, Terceira, Azores/Joao**
.......................... 9 [102] VINCENTE ROMEIRO THE YOUNG/VELHO b: Abt. 1629 in Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras, Terceira, Azores/Geo. Pacheco
................................ +[103] Ana Dias b: Unknown in /Geo. Pacheco m: Apr 26, 1638 in Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras, Terceira, Azores/Geo. Pacheco
.......................... *2nd Wife of [102] VINCENTE ROMEIRO THE YOUNG/VELHO:
................................ +[104] JOANA DIAS b: Abt. 1629 in Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras, Terceira, Azores/Geo. Pacheco m: Jan 28, 1646 in Santa Barbara, Terceira, Azores/Joao**
.............................10 [105] JOAO ROMEIRO da COSTA b: Oct 13, 1649 in Santa Barbara Nove Ribeiras, Terceira, Azores/Joao**
................................... +[106] INES de JESUS b: Abt. 1649 in Santa Barbara, Terceira, Azores/Geo. Pacheco m: Jan 11, 1677 in Santa Barbara Nove Ribeiras, Terceira, Azores/Joao**
................................. 11 [107] LUISA de JESUS b: Abt. 1666 in Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras, Terceira, Azores/Joao
.......................................+[108] PEDRO VAZ VELHO da COSTA b: Abt. 1664 in Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras, Terceira, Azores/Joao m: Jan 29, 1698 in Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras, Terceira, Azores/Joao**
....................................12 [109] MARIA da CONCEICAO b: Aug 01, 1698 in Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras, Terceira, Azores**
..........................................+[110] BRAS LOURENCO REBELO b: Jul 04, 1691 in Santa Cruz, Praia, Terceira, Azores** m: Aug 17, 1717 in Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras, Terceira, Azores**/Geo says Santa Cruz, Praia, Terceira, Azores
........................................13 [111] FRANCISCO LOURENCO HOMEN/REBELO b: Feb 28, 1721 in Santa Cruz, Praia, Terceira, Azores**
..............................................+[112] ROSA FRANCISCA MARIANA b: May 31, 1728 in Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras, Terceira, Azores** m: Mar 27, 1748 in Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras, Terceira, Azores**
...........................................14 [113] Jose Lourenco Homen b: Abt. 1775 in Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras, Terceira, Azores/Geo. Pacheco
.................................................+[114] Rosa Bernarda b: Bet. 1761 - 1776 in Terceira, Azores/Geo. Pacheco m: Jun 23, 1793 in Cabo da Praia, Terceira, Azores/Geo. Pacheco
...........................................*2nd Wife of [113] Jose Lourenco Homen:
.................................................+[115] Inacia de Sao Joao b: Jun 24, 1776 in Ribeirinha, Terceira, Azores/Joao Ventura m: Bef. 1813 in Ribeirinha, Terceira, Azores/Joao/Geo. Pacheco
...............................................15 [116] Francisco Machado Lourence Homen b: Mar 02, 1813 in Ribeirinha, Terceira, Azores/Joao Ventura/Geo Pacheco
..................................................... +[117] Mariana Vitorina b: Feb 29, 1808 in Porto Judeu, Terceira, Azores/Joao Ventura/Geo Pacheco m: Jul 16, 1831 in Porto Judeu, Terceira, Azores/Joao Ventura/Geo Pacheco
........................................... 14 [118] JOAO MACHADO DUTRA b: Jun 07, 1761 in Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras, Terceira, Azores**
................................................. +[119] RITA MARIA CANDIDA da CASSIA b: Apr 09, 1771 in Santo Antonio do Porto Judeu, Terceira, Azores** m: Jun 24, 1795 in Santo Antonio do Porto Judeu, Terceira, Azores**
............................................... 15 [120] CATARINA JOSEFA b: Oct 10, 1800 in Santo Antonio do Porto Judeu, Terceira, Azores**
..................................................... +[121] JOAO LINHARES FERREIRA DINIS b: Aug 19, 1788 in Santo Antonio do Porto Judeu, Terceira, Azores** m: Jan 12, 1828 in Santo Antonio do Porto Judeu, Terceira, Azores (book missing)**
.................................................. 16 [2] JOSE FERREIRA DINIS b: Mar 01, 1840 in Santo Antonio do Porto Judeu, Terceira, Azores**
........................................................+[1] RITA CANDIDA LOURENCE HOMEN b: Jan 17, 1841 in Santo Antonio do Porto Judeu, Terceira, Azores** m: Bef. 1872 in Santissimo Sacramento, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
......................................................17 [3] JOAO FERREIRA DINIS b: Oct 28, 1873 in Porto Judeu, Terceira, Azores**
............................................................+[4] MARIA JOSE ORMONDE b: Jan 03, 1870 in Santo Antonio do Porto Judeu, Terceira, Azores** m: Nov 30, 1895 in Santo Antonio do Porto Judeu, Terceira, Azores**
..........................................................18 [5] MARIA JOSE FERREIRA DINIS b: Jan 19, 1897 in Porto Judeu, Terceira, Azores**
................................................................+[6] JOAO BERNARDO SOBRAL b: Jan 07, 1876 in Ligares, Tras-os-Montes, Portugal** m: Jun 01, 1916 in San Francisco, CA, USA**
............................................................. 19 [8] ROSE CANDIDA SOBRAL b: Oct 10, 1919 in Hayward, CA, USA
................................................................... +[9] LEONEL SOARES de AZEVEDO b: Dec 02, 1891 in NS da Conceicao, Horta, Faial, Azores(Rua da Conceicao)** m: Not Married
................................................................. 20 [10] CELESTE NORINE LEWIS b: Jan 14, 1938 in Hayward, CA, USA**
....................................................................... +[11] ROBERT EDWARD PERRY b: Oct 23, 1935 in Providence, RI, USA** m: Jul 08, 1956 in All Saints, Hayward, CA, USA**
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Karlushko
Jun 25, 2010, 10:51:26 PM6/25/10
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Dear Celeste
I didnt understand your recores such:
VINCENTE ROMEIRO THE YOUNG/VELHO:
Young= Mancebo, Jr., jovem
Velho= Old, Elder, etc....
How could he be Young when Velho means Old, Elder etc Karlushko - Itajai/SC/Brasil - New York/USA Pesquisando: Alemanha, Belgica, Brasil, Luxemburgo, Italia, Portugal, Açores, Espanha Agueda, Aguiar, André, Antunes, Arruda, Baptista, Beirao, Brasil, Bulcão, Cardoso, Correia, Costa, Dias, Dutra, Faria, Fernandes, Ferreira, Figueiro, Gaspar, Gato, Gomes Gonçalves, Guedes, Jorge, Leal, Lemos, Macedo, Machado, Marques, Martins, Matos, Mello, Miranda, Moreira, Nascimento, Netto, Nogueira, Nunes, Oliveira, Pereira, Ponte, Quadrado, Rebello, Rodrigues, Santos, Silva, Silveira, Simão, Sodré, Souza, Vieira, Zabuya, Fiorenzano, Bertemes, Reinert, Ottekier, Van der Gocht, de Pres, Hesse, Laux, Schumer, Jungklaus. --- Em sex, 25/6/10, celeste perry <ccgr...@yahoo.com> escreveu: |
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celeste perry
Jun 26, 2010, 5:11:48 PM6/26/10
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Sorry for the confusion. In one record he is listed with one name, Vicente Romeiro the Young, and in another record, as Vicente Romeiro Velho. Since I was not sure which name it was, I used the "/" to indicate there was some question about which was the correct name. The / also gives me an immediate hint that there may be differences in the name. I guess it is just my attempt to try to get as much information listed in a place where I don't have to search deeper to check out a name.
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mances
Jun 27, 2010, 6:25:48 PM6/27/10
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Hi Celeste,
Pedro Velho de Travassos and Nuno Velho de Travassos were brothers, sons of Diogo Gonçalves de Travassos and Violante Velho Cabral.
1) Pedro Velho de Travassos married twice and his 2nd wife was Catarina Afonso widow of a Gonçalo Anes from the city of Porto, Portugal.
Pedro had a son named Estévão Cabral, or Travassos, who married Violante Gonçalves daughter of Catarina Afonso and her first husband Gonçalo Anes.
2) Nuno Velho de Travassos also married twice and his 2nd wife Africa Anes was daughter of another Gonçalo Anes from Cernandessa, Portugal.
Nuno and Africa Anes had a daughter named Grimaneza Afonso de Melo from whom you do descend.
So I think you are connected to Diogo Gonçalves de Travassos and Violante Velho Cabral through their son Nuno Velho de Travassos and his 2nd wife Africa Anes.
Manoel
De: azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] Em nome de celeste perry
Enviada em: sexta-feira, 25 de
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Catarina Afonso & Goncalo Anes
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Manoel, |
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Here is how I descend from Catarina. Descendants of SIMAO de SE 1 SIMAO de SE b: Abt. 1400 in Porto, Portugal/Geo. Pacheco . 2 GONCALO ANES b: Abt. 1420 in Cernandessa, Portugal/Geo. Pacheco ....... +CATARINE AFONSO b: Abt. 1420 in Porto, Portugal/Geo. Pacheco ..... 3 Vilonate Goncalves b: Abt. 1440 in Rosario Lagoa, Sao Miguel, Azores/Geo. Pacheco ........... +Estevao Cabral ou de Travassos b: Abt. 1440 in Rosario, Lagoa, Sao Miguel/Geo. Pacheco m: Abt. 1535 in /Geo. Pacheco ..... 3 AFRICA ANES b: Abt. 1450 in Cernandessa, Portugal/Geo. Pacheco ........... +NUNO VELHO CABRAL b: Abt. 1430 m: in Santa Maria, Azores/Geo. Pacheco ........ 4 [92] GRIMANESA AFONSO MELO b: Abt. 1510 in Sao Sebastiao, Terceira, Azores/Geo. Pacheco .............. +[93] LOURENCO ANES b: Abt. 1510 in Terceira/Sao Miguel, Azores/Geo. Pacheco ............ 5 [94] BRIOLANJA NUNES b: Abt. 1530 .................. +[95] MANUEL ROMEIRO b: Abt. 1530 |
celeste perry
Jun 27, 2010, 10:09:03 PM6/27/10
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Yes, Manoel, I think your correct. I am connected to Diogo by way of Nuno & Africa. My maternal grandmother's line has many "cross-overs." I have information, may be true or not, that my grandmother is the 72nd great-grandaughter of Numarius Julius Caesar. Again, I say, it may or may not be true. The point is that in the 236 pages of charts for this connection, my grandmother appears 40 times!
I worked on trying to verify this connection and finally just gave up because there was just too much confusion with all of the in-marrying of this family. I suppose, if you go back far enough, we are all related to Adam and Eve so there you have it.
Thank you for helping with this specific connection to Diogo Goncalves de Travassos & Violante Velho Cabral.
Celeste, Hayward, CA
Celeste Perry ccgr...@yahoo.com --- On Sun, 6/27/10, mances <man...@netsite.com.br> wrote: |
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