Silveira/Trindade in Flores

[Sam Koester]

Hello Listers;  My cousin, Al Rose, has made what we thing is a giant hole in our mutual brick wall but; we have yet to verify it.  I’m wondering if any list members are working on or have this line in their history. 

 

Francisco Jose Silveira b. unknown, m. 22 Jan 1814 in Flores to Maria de Joaquina da Trindade, b. unknown 

 

Ana Emilia Silva was the ggrandmother of both Al and I and we have been searching for years for her birthplace and ancestors.  We knew from her marriage record that her parents names were: Francisco J. and Maria but; other than when she immigrated and who she married, that was about the extent of our knowledge on her line.

 

Cousin Al did the Family Finder test at FTdna and there was a connection shown between him and another fellow.  In researching their ancestors, the Silveira line surfaced and although we have always know our ggrandmother by the name of Ana Emilia Silva as opposed to Silveira we now strongly suspect that the Francisco and Maria above may be our gggrandparents.  If anyone has any info. on this couple, it would be greatly appreciated if you would share with us.

 

Thanks in advance, Sam in CA

[John Raposo]

I checked through "Casais das Flores e do Corvo" but found nothing helpfu;.

 

John 

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[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Hi Sam,

 

I am the family finder match with your cousin Al Rose. All of my people came from Sao Miguel in particular Bretanha, and Rebeira Grande. I do have some Silva’s in my line.

 

I have a Joao da Silva who with Maria Espirito Santo had a daughter Rita Espirito Santo in 1812 in Ribeira Grande Rita would be my 3^rd Great grandmother.

 

My 2^nd great grandmother Maria Julia Silva was the daughter of Manuel Silva Tavares and Rosa Jacinta who were married in Santissimo Salvador in 1862.

 

I am keeping my eye out for a connection.

 

Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Spring, TX

Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

From: azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sam Koester
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 12:46 PM
To: azo...@googlegroups.com
Cc: AlRo...@aol.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silveira/Trindade in Flores

 

Hello Listers;  My cousin, Al Rose, has made what we thing is a giant hole in our mutual brick wall but; we have yet to verify it.  I’m wondering if any list members are working on or have this line in their history. 

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[Sam Koester]

John, Thank you for checking and I need to apologize for I should have included in my post that Cousin Al has the Flores marriage book.  He found Francisco and Maria’s marriage there, I believe but; what we need is confirmation that they had a daughter named Ana Emila on the date our ggrandmother was born.

 

One of these days, I will have to drag myself down to the FHC and see if I can find her birth in the microfilm.  Up until now, we had no idea which island she was born on but; now, maybe, we do and with luck I will be able to find her in the film.  I was just hoping someone on this list had the couple in their line and could save me a day at the microfilm, especially since I don’t know when I can find the time to get to the FHC!

 

Thanks again, Sam in CA

[Sam Koester]

Richard;  Actually, Cousin Al told me it was an Al Ball that he had the match with.  Perhaps he had more than one person with matches to him.  I’ll send him an email and ask. 

 

Wish I had more to go on with my ggrandmother but; unfortunately, I don’t.   Ana Emilia Silva b. Abt. 1855 somewhere in the Azores.  D. 24 Aug 1916 in Providence, RI.  Parents:  Francisco J. and Maria Conciecao.  Ana arrive in the U.S. sometime btw 1873 and 1883 (Depends which census you read)  That’s and who she married and her descendents is all I know about her.

 

Thanks, Sam in CA

[Adair Borba]

This is probably a long shot, but my great grandmother was Jennie Solomon Silva 1857 Azores.  I believe her father was Joseph Silva 1821.  Rumor has it that she and 1 or 2 sisters were stow aways on a whaling ship(arranged) by her older brother, which arrived in RI in around 1866.  I know Jennie married in Rhode Island to Manuel Borba, and that she and her brother made their way to Northern California, but I know nothing about her sisters, father or mother for sure.

[Sam Koester]

Adair,  There is a possibility that we have a connection but; at this point I don’t have enough information to tell you.  Give the 1857 date for your Jennie S. Silva, there is the possibility that she is a sister to my Ana Emilia Silva/Silveira.  We suspect that Ana may have entered the U.S. as a stowaway…

 

My Ana also married in RI and lived the rest of her life there. 

 

Good luck in your search, Sam in CA

 

From: azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Adair Borba
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 3:44 PM
To: azo...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silveira/Trindade in Flores

 

This is probably a long shot, but my great grandmother was Jennie Solomon Silva 1857 Azores.  I believe her father was Joseph Silva 1821.  Rumor has it that she and 1 or 2 sisters were stow aways on a whaling ship(arranged) by her older brother, which arrived in RI in around 1866.  I know Jennie married in Rhode Island to Manuel Borba, and that she and her brother made their way to Northern California, but I know nothing about her sisters, father or mother for sure.

 

 

On May 27, 2012, at 12:21 AM, Sam Koester wrote:

Richard;  Actually, Cousin Al told me it was an Al Ball that he had the match with.  Perhaps he had more than one person with matches to him.  I’ll send him an email and ask. 

 

Wish I had more to go on with my grandmother but; unfortunately, I don’t.   Ana Emilia Silva b. Abt. 1855 somewhere in the Azores.  D. 24 Aug 1916 in Providence, RI.  Parents:  Francisco J. and Maria Conciecao.  Ana arrive in the U.S. sometime btw 1873 and 1883 (Depends which census you read)  That’s and who she married and her descendents is all I know about her.

[Adair Borba]

Sam,

Do you have any other information on your Ana's family, her brother, father...anything that might match my information. Do you have a tree posted somewhere?  I have a tree on Ancestry with some pictures of Jennie.(Borba Family Tree) with me(Ardath Adair Borba)as the home person.

Adair

[eric edgar]

Adair,

 

We have already eastablished from her Rhode Island  marriage record , that Jennie Solomon Silva's father was Jose Solomon Silva.

 

 

Eric Edgar

[Sam Koester]

Adair;  Yes, my tree on Ancestry.com is:  TAVARE~10_2009-12-16      

I invite everyone to visit my tree and look for connections.  You will see that I have quite a bit of documentation there.  I debated posting the documentation and finally decided that I would rather people “stole” my hardwork than not have it posted so that others who connect to my line might contact me.  So far I have made 3 new connections in my and my husband’s lines this way.  I am still scanning an inputting documentation so if anyone connects, you might want to check back frequently.  If you do connect, I hope you will contact me so that we may compare notes and I too, may gain some new information.

 

As to a possible connection to your line, Adair, according to Edgar, it sounds like you already have the father to you Jennie and you do not connect to my line.

 

Best of luck to everyone in their hunt.  Regards, Sam in CA

[Adair Borba]

Yes, thank you Eric, I was hoping to gather more information and to see if Sam had any information on his Ana's dad...