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Addinall

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Dec 15, 2011, 12:46:59 AM12/15/11
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"A $20 million education portal will give Australian students access
to a store of interactive learning aids via the national broadband
network (NBN).

Teachers and students will be able to tap into the Australian
Broadcasting Corporation's database of contemporary and archival
content, transferred to digital form and linked to the national
curriculum.

Communications Minister Stephen Conroy said on Thursday the portal
would provide resources for free online tutorials and interactive
learning activities using games, video, reading materials and quizzes.

It will be launched in the second half of 2012."

$20 MILLION to build a webserver that has a link to the ABC????

FFS!

Tell ya what Conjob. I'll do it for $2 million. Fixed price.

Mark Addinall.


bringyagrogalong

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Dec 15, 2011, 1:37:47 AM12/15/11
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That's most kind of you but I don't think Conroy likes working with
idiots.

Addinall

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Dec 15, 2011, 2:27:57 AM12/15/11
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> idiots.-

Seems strange, with the company he keeps.
$20 MILLION for a webserver!
You lefty dullards sure like to burn money.


Lessee...

Part number: 7377B2M
$RRP AUD (inc GST)† $2,299
Or $191.58/month for 12 months with our 0% finance offer*


Specifications

Intel® Xeon® Processor E5607 (Quad-core 2.26GHz)

1 x 4 GB 1.35V DDR3 1333 MHz memory (192GB Max)

12 +2 (optional) x 3.5” HS SAS/SATA disk bays

3.5” open bay

ServeRaid M1015 (RAID 0/1/10, Optional 5,50 with Adv Feature Key)

Integrated dual Gigabit Ethernet

1 x 675W HS Power Supply (redundant power optional)

3 year onsite limited warranty

Four of those is

$9,196

Proxy on a SAN

Part number: 249824E
$RRP AUD (inc GST)† $2,735
Or $76.12/month for 36 months. Total of $2,740*


Specifications

8,16,24 8Gb/sec ports

Ports on demand: (FC7400) 1/2/4/8 Gbit/sec FC


Components

Storage Cat Q Yrs 1-3 24x7 Onsite: 4hrs (46D3704)

Storage Cat Q Yrs 1-3 9x5 Onsite: 4hrs (46D3703)


$11,931 so far

Disks and a load balancing switch,
depending on the day, about $3000

$14,931

Housing in a government data centre,

$5000 + $2000 pa

$21,931

That leaves a chunk of change for my team to make out of $2 million.
Easy. I'll do it.

And Labor wants to spen $20 million on a webserver?

The Baksheesh must be coming thick and fast on the NBN
gravy train!


Mark Addinall.

Gillard=Rudd in a frock

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Dec 15, 2011, 2:42:00 AM12/15/11
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On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 18:27 someone claiming to be Addinall
(addi...@addinall.net), said:


> You lefty dullards sure like to burn money.

It's in their blood.

Have you ever seen a spend, or a tax, that the ALP or Greens don't like?
>
--

"One thing is sure - there will be no Gillard era. This is not a
20-year stretch. Civilised people's hands are already over their faces
every time she speaks. That cannot last. She has no power, no
influence, no friends, no learning. There's not much there."

Bob Ellis (ALP speech writer) on Dullard! http://tinyurl.com/23jklvv

"Gillard is part of a Melbourne-based gang Ellis dubs the "Mouse Pack",
which includes Simon Crean and Martin Ferguson.

"They twitch their whiskers and come out in favour of the Afghan war
without studying the problem or noting that an army intelligence
officer [independent MP Andrew Wilkie] holds the balance of power,"
Ellis says."

More Bob Ellis (ALP Speech writer) on Dullard!
http://tinyurl.com/23jklvv

Labor Lies:

"There will be no carbon tax under the government I lead" - Ju-Liar
Dullard

“Well certainly what we rejected is this hysterical allegation that
somehow we are moving towards a carbon tax from the Liberals in their
advertising. We certainly reject that.” (Swan the Goose)

Gordon Levi

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Dec 15, 2011, 8:58:41 AM12/15/11
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I hope that you don't make a habit of quoting before reading the spec.
What did you understand by "a store of _interactive_ learning aids"?
If you were paid ten times as much money as your quote do you think
that you could improve on your effort or don't you feel you have the
imagination?

Addinall

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Dec 15, 2011, 9:55:21 AM12/15/11
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On Dec 15, 11:58 pm, Gordon Levi <gor...@address.invalid> wrote:
> Addinall <addin...@addinall.net> wrote:
> >"A $20 million education portal will give Australian students access
> >to a store of interactive learning aids via the national broadband
> >network (NBN).
>
> >Teachers and students will be able to tap into the Australian
> >Broadcasting Corporation's database of contemporary and archival
> >content, transferred to digital form and linked to the national
> >curriculum.
>
> >Communications Minister Stephen Conroy said on Thursday the portal
> >would provide resources for free online tutorials and interactive
> >learning activities using games, video, reading materials and quizzes.
>
> >It will be launched in the second half of 2012."
>
> >$20 MILLION to build a webserver that has a link to the ABC????
>
> >FFS!
>
> >Tell ya what Conjob.  I'll do it for $2 million.  Fixed price.
>
> I hope that you don't make a habit of quoting before reading the spec.

Hardly ever. Being on of the left fan-bois, you could perhaps point
to a spec.
Because it hasn't appeared in tender universe, as usual with this lot
of
fucking crooks.


> What did you understand by "a store of _interactive_ learning aids"?

Frappery, giving an ALMOST Web2.0 interface to the ABC network.

> If you were paid ten times as much money as your quote do you think
> that you could improve on your effort or don't you feel you have the
> imagination?

English not your first language Ms. Levi? Never mind, have another go
at that question.

Fucking idiot.

BTW, how is the ALP NBN sales site going? Still doesn't pass a W3C
audit I see......

ROTFLMFAO!!!

Mark Addinall.

Addinall

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Dec 15, 2011, 10:26:40 AM12/15/11
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On Dec 15, 5:42 pm, "Gillard=Rudd in a frock"
<flatulantdi...@deadspam.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 18:27 someone claiming to be Addinall
> (addin...@addinall.net),  said:
>
> > You lefty dullards sure like to burn money.
>
> It's in their blood.

You got that right. Fuck, another $800 MILLION for a DoD payroll!!!!!

I'll do that one for $8 million. Fixed price.
Sticking a whole 70,000 people on a payroll system must be harder
than I have seen. Woolies do >80,000 people on two wanky old
AS400s! (Sorry xSeries Servers - new name, same RPG).


$20 million for a "Portal" into the ABC! I over quoted.
But I'll still do it for $2 million.

$7 million for 'Grocery Watch' and it only ran for five days!

Who knows how much for 'Fuelwatch" The government is keeping that
a secret, but the lowest estimate is $25 million.

>
> Have you ever seen a spend, or a tax, that the ALP or Greens don't like?

They sure like spending money from other's pockets.

Ms. Levi is ducking in again to tell me how to implement systems!
ROTFLMFAO!

Mark Addinall.

>
> --
>
> "One thing is sure - there will be no Gillard era. This is not a
> 20-year stretch. Civilised people's hands are already over their faces
> every time she speaks. That cannot last. She has no power, no
> influence, no friends, no learning. There's not much there."
>
> Bob Ellis (ALP speech writer) on Dullard!http://tinyurl.com/23jklvv
>
> "Gillard is part of a Melbourne-based gang Ellis dubs the "Mouse Pack",
> which includes Simon Crean and Martin Ferguson.
>
> "They twitch their whiskers and come out in favour of the Afghan war
> without studying the problem or noting that an army intelligence
> officer [independent MP Andrew Wilkie] holds the balance of power,"
> Ellis says."
>
> More Bob Ellis (ALP Speech writer) on Dullard!http://tinyurl.com/23jklvv

B J Foster

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Dec 15, 2011, 2:17:49 PM12/15/11
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Don't be absurd

Gordon Levi

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Dec 15, 2011, 9:55:01 PM12/15/11
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Addinall <addi...@addinall.net> wrote:

>On Dec 15, 11:58 pm, Gordon Levi <gor...@address.invalid> wrote:
>> Addinall <addin...@addinall.net> wrote:
>> >"A $20 million education portal will give Australian students access
>> >to a store of interactive learning aids via the national broadband
>> >network (NBN).
>>
>> >Teachers and students will be able to tap into the Australian
>> >Broadcasting Corporation's database of contemporary and archival
>> >content, transferred to digital form and linked to the national
>> >curriculum.
>>
>> >Communications Minister Stephen Conroy said on Thursday the portal
>> >would provide resources for free online tutorials and interactive
>> >learning activities using games, video, reading materials and quizzes.
>>
>> >It will be launched in the second half of 2012."
>>
>> >$20 MILLION to build a webserver that has a link to the ABC????
>>
>> >FFS!
>>
>> >Tell ya what Conjob.  I'll do it for $2 million.  Fixed price.
>>
>> I hope that you don't make a habit of quoting before reading the spec.
>
>Hardly ever. Being on of the left fan-bois, you could perhaps point
>to a spec.
>Because it hasn't appeared in tender universe, as usual with this lot
>of
>fucking crooks.

So you did provide a quote without reading the spec!
>
>
>> What did you understand by "a store of _interactive_ learning aids"?
>
>Frappery, giving an ALMOST Web2.0 interface to the ABC network.
>
>> If you were paid ten times as much money as your quote do you think
>> that you could improve on your effort or don't you feel you have the
>> imagination?
>
>English not your first language Ms. Levi? Never mind, have another go
>at that question.

Are you capable of sourcing a, value for money, twenty million dollar
web site "using games, video, reading materials and quizzes"?
>
>Fucking idiot.
>
>BTW, how is the ALP NBN sales site going? Still doesn't pass a W3C
>audit I see......

It's going about as well as your effort to make _your_ web site
compliant <http://tinyurl.com/csqe8m2>.

B J Foster

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Dec 15, 2011, 11:06:40 PM12/15/11
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On 16/12/2011 1:55 PM, Gordon Levi wrote:
>> >BTW, how is the ALP NBN sales site going? Still doesn't pass a W3C
>> >audit I see......
> It's going about as well as your effort to make_your_ web site
> compliant<http://tinyurl.com/csqe8m2>.

Line 4, Column 12: Brain-dysfunction detected, non sequitur

This error may occur when there is a birth defect or excessive
horizontal non-movement occurs 'en chaise', e.g see common stuffups in
IT systems, namely 'failure to identify requirements', viz.
non-requirement for XHTML.

Duh.

Addinall

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Dec 15, 2011, 11:12:17 PM12/15/11
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This document was successfully checked as XHTML 1.0 Transitional!
Result: Passed
Address: www.addinall.net/ehealth
Root Namespace: http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml


That's as far as I need it to validate. Experimental site that cost
$0
to the public to build and $0 to maintain.

The SOOPER-DOOPER NBN page however...

Errors found while checking this document as XHTML 1.0 Transitional!
Result: 28 Errors, 23 warning(s)
Address: http://www.alp.org.au/agenda/nbn/
Root Namespace: http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml

And they are asking for $50 BILLION to spend on ICT and they can't
code a Web page?

Everytime you stupid lefties get some notion about IT
the checkbooks with the HUGE numbers are pulled out
at once. Spent loads, and failed every time.

"The Federal Government has announced a $20m project to create an
online educational portal that will provide school students and
teachers around Australia with access to vast archive of ABC material,
linked to the Australian Curriculum and that will need NBN bandwidths
to utilised."

Is this right? The government are spending $20 million building a web
server/application that no-one can use until the NBN gets finished?
What a plan! Typical. So, if ADSL2 only just hacks it, the people the
NBN are leaving on a satellite service will NEVER be able to use the
service? So much for the "distance education for the kids in the
bush". And it sounds like the entry level 12 Mbps NBN offering will
not be enough to drive the thing, so in 10 years, when the NBN gets
finished, the kids of affluent parents that do not live remotely, can
use this wonderful new (decade old) service. There really aren't any
good planners involved in this hey?

Why not take that $20 million, find a couple of clever people that can
architecture a similar portal service and deliver the results in a
bandwidth friendly manner?

Stupid pricks.

Mark Addinall.





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Addinall

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Dec 15, 2011, 11:34:54 PM12/15/11
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Oh, and

"It will be launched in the second half of 2012 and is being designed
to exploit the bandwidth of the NBN. A spokesman for senator Conroy
told iTWire that it would be accessible by Internet user, but ADSL
customers would need to be close to an exchange in order to get
sufficient bandwidth to make full use of it."

Yep. $20 million dollars well spent to launch a site that almost no-
one in Australia will be able to use.
And NO-ONE in regional or remote areas.....

Garrett and Conroy, double teaming on the lastest ALP fuckup....

http://discuss.itwire.com/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=25097

Stupid pricks.
Mark Addinall.







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B J Foster

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Dec 16, 2011, 12:00:19 AM12/16/11
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On 16/12/2011 3:34 PM, Addinall wrote:
> Yep. $20 million dollars well spent to launch a site that almost no-
> one in Australia will be able to use.
> And NO-ONE in regional or remote areas.....
>
> Garrett and Conroy, double teaming on the lastest ALP fuckup....
>
> http://discuss.itwire.com/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=25097
>
> Stupid pricks.
> Mark Addinall.
>

That's almost $6,666 per user.

Oy Rool Out a Carbon Tax

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Dec 16, 2011, 12:14:38 AM12/16/11
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On 16/12/2011 3:34 PM, Addinall wrote:
Thank you Labor.

--
"If we cut emissions today, global temperatures are not likely to drop
for about a thousand years. "
-- Tim (it ain't a gonna rain no more) Flannery
- Australian Climate Commissar

Gordon Levi

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Dec 19, 2011, 9:30:40 AM12/19/11
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I have already congratulated you on this epic achievement
<http://groups.google.com/group/aus.politics/msg/58035a9d4d112c44?hl=en>.
I understand that a similar effort to make <http:/addinall.net> W3C
compliant may be too much work for you but it seems not unreasonable
to expect that a menu item on the site may actually lead to some
content. Most of them have none. It is clear that you copied the site
from someone else but I am confident that you could quickly locate the
items that you are not actually using and delete them.
> Experimental site that cost
>$0
>to the public to build and $0 to maintain.
>
>The SOOPER-DOOPER NBN page however...
>
>Errors found while checking this document as XHTML 1.0 Transitional!
>Result: 28 Errors, 23 warning(s)
>Address: http://www.alp.org.au/agenda/nbn/
>Root Namespace: http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml

I did not author this site. The sites I have authored have no
validation errors unless some content was supplied by someone else.
Feel free to complain to the ALP about their validation errors but
they may respond by saying that menu items that lead nowhere are more
serious web site flaws.
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