Re: An Agent filter against the troll in a.c.freeware ?

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Stephen Wolstenholme

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Aug 25, 2016, 8:55:10 AM8/25/16
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On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 14:45:42 +0200, DAN <d...@no.spam.thanks> wrote:

>Is there a known filter that is reasonably effective against the loser troll who
>keeps polluting alt.comp.freeware ?
>
>Even if not 100% effective, any help will be welcome. Whatever his grudge, the
>insistent idiot is really making it painful to weed his garbage out before
>reading the group.
>
>TIA
>
>dan

That odd as I'm not getting any rubbish on alt.comp.freeware

Steve

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Bill Day

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Aug 25, 2016, 9:27:25 AM8/25/16
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On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 14:45:42 +0200, DAN <d...@no.spam.thanks> wrote:

>Is there a known filter that is reasonably effective against the loser troll who
>keeps polluting alt.comp.freeware ?
>
>Even if not 100% effective, any help will be welcome. Whatever his grudge, the
>insistent idiot is really making it painful to weed his garbage out before
>reading the group.
>
>TIA
>
>dan
I've read that group for over 15 years, and have pages full of kill
filters. If you define your filter carefully, there's nothing you
can't filter out. Sadly, there's not a lot of actual freeware posted
anymore... but it's still the first place I go.

CTRL-K .... then troll's name and/or listed email.
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CRNG

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Aug 25, 2016, 1:24:58 PM8/25/16
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On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 14:45:42 +0200, DAN <d...@no.spam.thanks> wrote in
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>Is there a known filter that is reasonably effective against the loser troll who
>keeps polluting alt.comp.freeware ?
>
>Even if not 100% effective, any help will be welcome. Whatever his grudge, the
>insistent idiot is really making it painful to weed his garbage out before
>reading the group.

Which "loser troll" are you specifically referring to? There are at
least a dozen.
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Barry Schwarz

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Aug 26, 2016, 7:54:23 PM8/26/16
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On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 16:52:09 -0700, Geoff <ge...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 14:45:42 +0200, DAN <d...@no.spam.thanks> wrote:
>
>>Is there a known filter that is reasonably effective against the loser troll who
>>keeps polluting alt.comp.freeware ?
>>
>>Even if not 100% effective, any help will be welcome. Whatever his grudge, the
>>insistent idiot is really making it painful to weed his garbage out before
>>reading the group.
>>
>>TIA
>>
>>dan
>
>Next I would use Subject: {[OT]}.

Don't you need to escape the brackets? This will match any subject
containing an O or a T.

>If someone makes an of-topic post and they /know/ it's OT and they are
>going to do me the great favor of flagging it [OT] I am going to
>filter for it. You might also want to use the naked subject: OT for
>greater effectiveness.

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Tom

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Aug 28, 2016, 3:23:22 PM8/28/16
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DAN presented the following explanation :
> Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
>
>>> Is there a known filter that is reasonably effective against the loser
>>> troll who keeps polluting alt.comp.freeware ?
>
>> That odd as I'm not getting any rubbish on alt.comp.freeware
>
> Maybe your NSP filters out googlegroups. That where it comes from.
> I don't know how to filter on the Server path in Agent 1.93.

Message-ID: @googlegroups.com

CRNG

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Aug 28, 2016, 4:19:11 PM8/28/16
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On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 21:44:08 +0200, DAN <d...@no.spam.thanks> wrote in
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>Tom wrote:
>
>>> I don't know how to filter on the Server path in Agent 1.93.
>
>>Message-ID: @googlegroups.com
>
>Thanks for the help, Tom.
>Are you sure this can be done in Agent 1.9 ?
>I got the error "it is not possible to filter on Message-ID".

I don't believe it can be done in v1.9x. I think you need at least v5
or v6.

Tom

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Aug 28, 2016, 4:40:05 PM8/28/16
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DAN pretended :
> Tom wrote:
>
>>> I don't know how to filter on the Server path in Agent 1.93.
>
>> Message-ID: @googlegroups.com
>
> Thanks for the help, Tom.
> Are you sure this can be done in Agent 1.9 ?
> I got the error "it is not possible to filter on Message-ID".

No, it has been a long time since I used 1.9, I was taking a stab at it
in the hopes it would work for you. Sorry.

Ralph Fox

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Aug 29, 2016, 9:47:30 PM8/29/16
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On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 20:01:03 +0200, DAN wrote:

> Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
>
> >>Is there a known filter that is reasonably effective against the loser troll who
> >>keeps polluting alt.comp.freeware ?
>
> >That odd as I'm not getting any rubbish on alt.comp.freeware
>
> Maybe your NSP filters out googlegroups. That where it comes from.
> I don't know how to filter on the Server path in Agent 1.93.


1. Start with this discussion thread:
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent/gqm7Op3Xf5k/


2. If you were to use the NFilter/NewsProxy add-on, then you could
filter Google Groups posts on the Message-ID field even in your
Agent 1.92.

Posts from Google Groups have a distinctive Message-ID which
NFilter/NewsProxy can filter on.

REF: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/filters_ex2.html


3. Filtering Google Groups will not filter the second persona which
you mentioned in news:o5aurbl9df9ebgv1o...@4ax.com .

The second persona is posting via mixmin and not via Google Groups.


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p-0''0-h the cat (coder)

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Aug 30, 2016, 10:40:21 AM8/30/16
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On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 22:23:00 +0200, DAN <d...@no.spam.thanks> wrote:

>CRNG wrote:
>
>>Which "loser troll" are you specifically referring to? There are at
>>least a dozen.
>
>To my understanding,

This guy is retarded. Ignore.

>there is mainly one, who is nymshifting and deliberately
>takes the nym of those who have confronted him. He often uses Haberdasher, Pooh
>the cat, Man-wei Chang (who otherwise is a legit poster), etc.

None of which is correct.

Sent from my iFurryUnderbelly.

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Devil incarnate, Linux user#666, BaStarD hacker, Resident evil, Monkey Boy,
Certifiable criminal, Spineless cowardly scum, textbook Psychopath,
the SCOURGE, l33t p00h d3 tr0ll, p00h == lam3r, p00h == tr0ll, troll infâme,
the OVERCAT [The BEARPAIR are dead, and we are its murderers], lowlife troll,
shyster [pending approval by STATE_TERROR], cripple, sociopath, kook,
smug prick, smartarse, arsehole, moron, idiot, imbecile, snittish scumbag,
liar, total ******* retard, shill, pooh-seur, scouringerer, jumped up chav,
lycanthropic schizotypal lesbian, the most complete ignoid, joker, and furball.

NewsGroups Numbrer One Terrorist

Honorary SHYSTER and FRAUD awarded for services to Haberdashery.
By Appointment to God Frank-Lin.

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I mark any message from »Q« the troll as stinky

p-0''0-h the cat (coder)

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Aug 30, 2016, 12:11:29 PM8/30/16
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On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 00:13:56 +0200, FredW <fr...@ninmule.invalid> wrote:

>Pooh the cat changes his name a little bit from time tot time
>(nymshifting), so every time he changes I make a new killfilter (with
>expiration).

Another occasional one line wonder I have offended.

You post more about trolls than freeware for sure.

I dunno what the world is coming to.

It's little wonder Usenet is dying. Too many self important nobodies.

Basilone

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Aug 30, 2016, 7:04:18 PM8/30/16
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On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 17:11:27 +0100, p-0''0-h the cat (coder) wrote:

> On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 00:13:56 +0200, FredW <fr...@ninmule.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Pooh the cat changes his name a little bit from time tot time
>>(nymshifting), so every time he changes I make a new killfilter (with
>>expiration).
>
> Another occasional one line wonder I have offended.
>
> You post more about trolls than freeware for sure.
>
> I dunno what the world is coming to.
>
> It's little wonder Usenet is dying. Too many self important nobodies.
>

It goes out of it's way to offend and annoy anyone using ACF and it gets
indignant when other users want to filter it for trolling. Of course, it
is everyone else's fault.

More proof that denial is not just an Egyptian river.

p-0''0-h the cat (coder)

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Aug 30, 2016, 7:34:42 PM8/30/16
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On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 16:04:52 -0700, Basilone <Basi...@basilone.invalid>
Well you spelt denial correctly this time none but the gag doesn't work
so well with the correct spelling and your killfile is leaky as usual.

In case you lovely people are wondering "denile" and the gag was mine.
Who killed the grammar and spelling police. I kid you not "denile". I am
plagued by the illiterati. What do they teach these kids in school?
Apart from copyright theft, mediocrity and plagiarism.

If anyone would like to killfile this nymshifting arsehole troll his
usual nym is none <no...@none.invalid>

This twerp thinks I'm a lycanthropic schizotypal lesbian called
Jessalyn. This is the kind of harassment I've had ever since I came to
Usenet. So many arseholes to take the piss out of. So little time.

Diesel

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Aug 31, 2016, 6:03:52 PM8/31/16
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"p-0''0-h the cat (coder)" <super...@fluffyunderbelly.invalid>
news:fj4csb58ihlqq5gft...@4ax.com Tue, 30 Aug 2016
23:34:39 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote:

> This twerp thinks I'm a lycanthropic schizotypal lesbian called
> Jessalyn.

That's because you had a setting wrong? in your client and poasted as
Jessalyn. You either accidently (doubtful) outed yourself, or, you got
caught socking, outright. As for the other aspects, personal opinion
based on some behaviors displayed by you. See, that wasn't hard.

> So many arseholes to take the piss out of.

ROFL. So many responses could be written to that, but, for the sake of
not adding a significant amount of noise to the newsgroups, I won't
take advantage of the opportunity that's being presented on a silver
platter.



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p-0''0-h the cat (coder)

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Aug 31, 2016, 6:48:30 PM8/31/16
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On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 22:03:51 -0000 (UTC), Diesel <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

>"p-0''0-h the cat (coder)" <super...@fluffyunderbelly.invalid>
>news:fj4csb58ihlqq5gft...@4ax.com Tue, 30 Aug 2016
>23:34:39 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote:
>
>> This twerp thinks I'm a lycanthropic schizotypal lesbian called
>> Jessalyn.
>
>That's because you had a setting wrong? in your client and poasted as
>Jessalyn. You either accidently (doubtful) outed yourself, or, you got
>caught socking, outright. As for the other aspects, personal opinion
>based on some behaviors displayed by you. See, that wasn't hard.
>
>> So many arseholes to take the piss out of.
>
>ROFL. So many responses could be written to that, but, for the sake of
>not adding a significant amount of noise to the newsgroups, I won't
>take advantage of the opportunity that's being presented on a silver
>platter.

Dusty is none's girlfriend. Ignore.

Ralph Fox

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Sep 1, 2016, 6:25:28 AM9/1/16
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On Thu, 01 Sep 2016 10:57:47 +0200, DAN wrote:

> Thanks a lot, Ralph. Lots of helpful knowledge, as usual.
>
> My take on all those options is that I should use Agent 6 for that NG, rather
> than the 1.9 I still use for text groups. That will enable filtering on
> Message-ID and allow me to remove Googlegroups and mixmin.


A filter on Message-ID can get remove Google Groups, but it won't
remove the mixmin poster. The mixmin posts do not have a distinctive
mixmin Message-ID.

To filter mixmin posts you need to filter on the "Injection-Info:" or
"Path:" headers. Agent 6 cannot filter on these headers. NFilter/
NewsProxy can filter on these headers provided it has support from your
news server to do so. The catch is whether or not your news server
provides the necessary support.


> I am not hoping for 100% perfect. Just getting rid of 80-90% of those vandals'
> pollution will make the pre-reading-cleanup tolerable and the group enjoyable
> again.
> _ _
> One has to wonder how bad is the life of such losers, that they spend so much
> time for so many years on vandalizing. Usually even the worst failures
> eventually mature up and move on in far fewer years.
> _ _
>
> Anyway. Thanks again, Ralph. Your knowledge and attitude are so helpful.
> (and such and antidote to said losers :)
>
> dan


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p-0''0-h the cat (coder)

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Sep 1, 2016, 11:11:54 AM9/1/16
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On Thu, 01 Sep 2016 22:25:14 +1200, Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid> wrote:

>On Thu, 01 Sep 2016 10:57:47 +0200, DAN wrote:
>
>> Thanks a lot, Ralph. Lots of helpful knowledge, as usual.
>>
>> My take on all those options is that I should use Agent 6 for that NG, rather
>> than the 1.9 I still use for text groups. That will enable filtering on
>> Message-ID and allow me to remove Googlegroups and mixmin.
>
>
>A filter on Message-ID can get remove Google Groups, but it won't
>remove the mixmin poster. The mixmin posts do not have a distinctive
>mixmin Message-ID.
>
>To filter mixmin posts you need to filter on the "Injection-Info:" or
>"Path:" headers. Agent 6 cannot filter on these headers. NFilter/
>NewsProxy can filter on these headers provided it has support from your
>news server to do so. The catch is whether or not your news server
>provides the necessary support.

For Christ's sake Ralph. I rarely change my nym/s or addys. How
difficult is this. Right click Filters > New Kill Filter.

The googlegroups guy always uses the same addy so you don't need to kill
everyone from googlegroups either.

I guess molehills look real big close up.


>> I am not hoping for 100% perfect. Just getting rid of 80-90% of those vandals'
>> pollution will make the pre-reading-cleanup tolerable and the group enjoyable
>> again.
>> _ _
>> One has to wonder how bad is the life of such losers, that they spend so much
>> time for so many years on vandalizing. Usually even the worst failures
>> eventually mature up and move on in far fewer years.
>> _ _
>>
>> Anyway. Thanks again, Ralph. Your knowledge and attitude are so helpful.
>> (and such and antidote to said losers :)
>>
>> dan

p-0''0-h the cat (coder)

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Sep 1, 2016, 11:23:29 AM9/1/16
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On Thu, 01 Sep 2016 10:57:47 +0200, DAN <d...@no.spam.thanks> wrote:

>Just getting rid of 80-90% of those vandals'
>pollution will make the pre-reading-cleanup tolerable and the group enjoyable
>again.

>One has to wonder how bad is the life of such losers, that they spend so much
>time for so many years on vandalizing. Usually even the worst failures
>eventually mature up and move on in far fewer years.

Your 'contribution' to ACF was four posts this year leech face. Thanks
for the laugh anyway. Your negativity is stifling btw. Thank fuck I
don't have to live with you or worse work with you. Gawd. Life's short.
Lighten up, and one more thing, blaming the cat for others misdemeanours
just shows what a dishonest nasty clueless numpty head you really are.
I've taken your name and hell will freeze over before I ever
intentionally offer you any advice in future. Up yours.

Luv Pooh.

Geoff

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Sep 2, 2016, 2:09:39 AM9/2/16
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On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 16:54:23 -0700, Barry Schwarz <schw...@dqel.com>
wrote:

>>Next I would use Subject: {[OT]}.
>
>Don't you need to escape the brackets? This will match any subject
>containing an O or a T.

I believe you are correct. That would make the filter {\[OT\]}
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