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The single best thing about Stargate Atlantis "Whispers" ep--and the worst

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Ken from Chicago

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Sep 7, 2008, 5:42:38 PM9/7/08
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Of all the flaws, and there are many, in the latest episode of STARGATE
ATLANTIS, "Whispers", there is something totally utterly stunning about it:
We finally got a JUSTIFICATION for the Atlantis Expedition. The lack of a
reason for the Atlantis Expedition to continue has been a wee bit of a
bugaboo of mine, and many others.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.tv.stargate-atlantis/msg/cd813c1527f6b2da?hl=en

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.tv.stargate-atlantis/msg/b3e46da7d427a961?hl=en

But in the mess of last Friday's ep, they finally uncover a decent reason
for the Atlantis Expedition to stay in the Pegasus galaxy, in a word:

ATONEMENT.

After awakening the Wraith, the Replicators and creating Michael, TAE might
as well be the Pegasus galaxy's Enemy #1. So for the good of humanity,
Terran, Milkywayan, and Pegasusian, TAE's new mission to set right what they
themselves indirectly made wrong.

Bonus would be if reps from various societies in the galaxy requested TAE
leave or declared them personae non grata. So now, TAE would be force to
protect and serve a galaxy that fears and hates--without benefit of a
folliclely- and ambulatory-challenged leader.

It is also the worst element of the episode because we FINALLY get a great
reason for the SERIES to continue--AFTER it's been cancelled.

Sigh.

-- Ken from Chicago


syvyn11

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Sep 7, 2008, 7:17:32 PM9/7/08
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"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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or a plotline for a series of movies?

NJ Esperantist

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Sep 7, 2008, 7:43:05 PM9/7/08
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On Sep 7, 5:42 pm, "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nos...@comcast.net>
wrote:

> Of all the flaws, and there are many, in the latest episode of STARGATE
> ATLANTIS, "Whispers", there is something totally utterly stunning about it:
> We finally got a JUSTIFICATION for the Atlantis Expedition. The lack of a
> reason for the Atlantis Expedition to continue has been a wee bit of a
> bugaboo of mine, and many others.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.tv.stargate-atlantis/msg/cd813c152...
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.tv.stargate-atlantis/msg/b3e46da7d...

>
> But in the mess of last Friday's ep, they finally uncover a decent reason
> for the Atlantis Expedition to stay in the Pegasus galaxy, in a word:
>
> ATONEMENT.
>
> After awakening the Wraith, the Replicators and creating Michael, TAE might
> as well be the Pegasus galaxy's Enemy #1. So for the good of humanity,
> Terran, Milkywayan, and Pegasusian, TAE's new mission to set right what they
> themselves indirectly made wrong.
>
> Bonus would be if reps from various societies in the galaxy requested TAE
> leave or declared them personae non grata. So now, TAE would be force to
> protect and serve a galaxy that fears and hates--without benefit of a
> folliclely- and ambulatory-challenged leader.
>
> It is also the worst element of the episode because we FINALLY get a great
> reason for the SERIES to continue--AFTER it's been cancelled.
>
> Sigh.
>
> -- Ken from Chicago

Unless I'm wrong, in a forthcoming episode, part of what you wrote
above comes about. I'm not being specific because I don't want to
spoil anything.

Dave

Anim8rFSK

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Sep 7, 2008, 8:04:59 PM9/7/08
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In article <H5WdnZdc38RS11nV...@comcast.com>,

"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Of all the flaws, and there are many, in the latest episode of STARGATE

> ATLANTIS SGA, "Whispers",

Many.

Many, many, many, many, many.

--
Multiple root canals; hopped up on multiple pain drugs.

It's an explanation, not an excuse!

himiko

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Sep 7, 2008, 9:10:00 PM9/7/08
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On Sep 7, 2:42 pm, "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nos...@comcast.net>
wrote:

> Of all the flaws, and there are many, in the latest episode of STARGATE
> ATLANTIS, "Whispers", there is something totally utterly stunning about it:
> We finally got a JUSTIFICATION for the Atlantis Expedition. The lack of a
> reason for the Atlantis Expedition to continue has been a wee bit of a
> bugaboo of mine, and many others.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.tv.stargate-atlantis/msg/cd813c152...
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.tv.stargate-atlantis/msg/b3e46da7d...

>
> But in the mess of last Friday's ep, they finally uncover a decent reason
> for the Atlantis Expedition to stay in the Pegasus galaxy, in a word:
>
> ATONEMENT.
>
> After awakening the Wraith, the Replicators and creating Michael, TAE might
> as well be the Pegasus galaxy's Enemy #1. So for the good of humanity,
> Terran, Milkywayan, and Pegasusian, TAE's new mission to set right what they
> themselves indirectly made wrong.
>
Also, a good reason why Beckett can no longer bear to be there. His
input into making things worse was more direct than most of them. So
is Sheppard. And lets not forget Rodney reprogramming the
replicators!

> Bonus would be if reps from various societies in the galaxy requested TAE
> leave or declared them personae non grata.

Getting awfully close to a direct political analogy there, Ken. I
don't think the suits will let them go there, at least not all the
way. It could be good though.

himiko

Dillon Pyron

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Sep 9, 2008, 12:02:07 AM9/9/08
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[Default] Thus spake "Ken from Chicago"
<kwicker1...@comcast.net>:

At the risk of sounding political ...

Oooops, that sounds rather political.

Ken from Chicago

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Sep 9, 2008, 4:47:36 AM9/9/08
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"himiko" <himi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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No, a historical analogy. With great power comes the temptation to
underestimate various challenges and overextend oneself so even if one is
victorious said victory is pyrrhic and far more costly than one expected, be
it the US, Russia, Britain, China, Japan, Rome, the Asgardians, the
Altarans, the Centauri, Cardassians, the Dominion, the Borg, et al.

-- Ken from Chicago


Tim Bruening

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Sep 15, 2008, 5:16:14 AM9/15/08
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Ken from Chicago wrote:

> Of all the flaws, and there are many, in the latest episode of STARGATE
> ATLANTIS, "Whispers", there is something totally utterly stunning about it:
> We finally got a JUSTIFICATION for the Atlantis Expedition. The lack of a
> reason for the Atlantis Expedition to continue has been a wee bit of a
> bugaboo of mine, and many others.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.tv.stargate-atlantis/msg/cd813c1527f6b2da?hl=en
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.tv.stargate-atlantis/msg/b3e46da7d427a961?hl=en
>
> But in the mess of last Friday's ep, they finally uncover a decent reason
> for the Atlantis Expedition to stay in the Pegasus galaxy, in a word:
>
> ATONEMENT.
>
> After awakening the Wraith, the Replicators and creating Michael, TAE might
> as well be the Pegasus galaxy's Enemy #1. So for the good of humanity,
> Terran, Milkywayan, and Pegasusian, TAE's new mission to set right what they
> themselves indirectly made wrong.
>
> Bonus would be if reps from various societies in the galaxy requested TAE
> leave or declared them personae non grata. So now, TAE would be force to
> protect and serve a galaxy that fears and hates--without benefit of a
> folliclely- and ambulatory-challenged leader.

Newly Formed Pegasus Government: We hereby request a timetable for the withdrawal of
the Atlantis Expedition from our galaxy!

Tim Bruening

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Sep 15, 2008, 5:18:47 AM9/15/08
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himiko wrote:

President Bush to the suits: Don't you DARE make the Pegasus galaxy like Iraq!!!!!

himiko

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Sep 15, 2008, 4:14:33 PM9/15/08
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On Sep 9, 1:47 am, "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nos...@comcast.net>
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> "himiko" <himiko...@gmail.com> wrote in message
It's a bit closer than that, especially with new rationale that the
reason they stay is to fix the mess they made, and they can't leave
even though there's every evidence that everything they've done is
making matters worse. Having the human residents of the Pegasus
galaxy start demanding that they leave would be getting way too
close. I'm surprised they've been allowed to get away with as much as
they have, but then, SF often does get away with political commentary
that would not be permitted (by sponsors, not the government) in other
genres.

himiko

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