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B.C. Woman Admitted Police Informant With Inside Information Upset About Lack Of Progress By RCMP Into Her Bigamist Son's H.A. Cocaine Dealing Death.
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B.C. Mom Frustrated No One Has Been Charged In Biker's Son Murder.
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13 Nov 2021, 23:55:50 (7 minutes ago)
B.C. mom frustrated no one has been charged in biker son's murder
Police says investigations involving gang murders are exceptionally complicated
Author of the article:Kim Bolan
Publishing date:Nov 12, 2021 • 22 hours ago • 11 minute read • 8 Comments
Mike Widner, the slain Hels Angels prospect, from the Facebook memorial page dedicated to him. PHOTO BY FACEBOOK /PNG
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When Reta Acorn didn’t get an expected call from her son Mike Widner in early March 2017, she knew instantly that something was wrong.
He always phoned his mom at her Sooke home while he was staying with his young family in Shawnigan Lake, Acorn said recently.
She called her son’s common-law spouse Sara, who told her Mike hadn’t shown up as expected the night before.
Acorn sent a friend to a Sooke park where Mike was supposed to meet one of his business partner in a legal medical marijuana growing operation about 9 p.m. the day he vanished. The friend called her to say her son’s car was abandoned in the park.
“What do you mean Mike’s car is there?” she asked. “He says, ‘It’s parked. It’s sitting right there.’ And so I phoned Sara back and I said his car is at the park. But it’s locked. And he’s not in it.”
“So then I knew. Intuition told me then that something happened to him.”
Reta Acorn, mother of slain Hells Angels prospect, Mike Widner, in Port Alberni. PHOTO BY MIKE YOUDS /PNG
Acorn went to the Sooke RCMP office to try to report her 39-year-old son missing. But there was a complication. Widner had been living a secret double life — with a wife and two kids in Sooke — and his common-law spouse Sara and two toddlers at Shawnigan Lake. His uncommon family life meant it was not unusual for him to be out of contact.
His wife Sabrina — who didn’t know about the other family — told her mother-in-law that her husband was likely up in Black Creek for work and staying with a friend. Sabrina didn’t see the need to contact police.
Sooke RCMP later called Acorn back and agreed to take the missing person’s report. Police then issued a news release about Widner’s disappearance, describing him as a local resident and saying his black Volkswagen Golf was found at Poirier Lake, not far from downtown.
There was no mention of the fact that Widner had been accepted into the Hells Angels and achieved the level of “prospect” with the Nanaimo chapter. And there were no details about his other family 50 kilometres north up the Island Highway.
Acorn said that despite her general distrust of police, she told them everything about her son’s criminal connections.
“I told them my son’s a drug dealer. I told them everything I knew. I didn’t care. I wanted my son found,” she recalled.
Four days later, her worst fears were realized. A hiker came upon Mike Widner’s body along the Pacific Marine route several kilometres from Port Renfrew.
More than four years later, Acorn is frustrated by the lack of progress in the murder investigation. She feels the Mounties are not motivated to solve the case because of Widner’s involvement in the drug trade and the notorious biker gang.
“I was getting inside information and I fed it to this one RCMP officer and not one damn thing was done about anything. Nothing,” Acorn said. “The RCMP don’t care about his murder. They really don’t. They just look at it as another drug dealer gone and one less thing they have to worry about.”
Acorn believes someone in the Hells Angels targeted her son, though police won’t comment beyond saying the investigation remains open, the murder unsolved.
William Simmons Park, location of Poirier Lake, in Sooke B.C. This is where Hell’s Angel Mike Widner disappeared, his car left abandoned. He was found murdered a few days later.
William Simmons Park, location of Poirier Lake, in Sooke B.C. This is where Hell’s Angel Mike Widner disappeared, his car left abandoned. He was found murdered a few days later. PHOTO BY KIM BOLAN /PNG
Widner’s dad, Chris, has a different take than his ex-wife. He said that the Nanaimo Hells Angels loved his son and were devastated when he was killed.
They gave him his full-patch the next day, the elder Widner said, and hung the slain biker’s vest in the Nanaimo clubhouse.
“The Nanaimo Hells Angels have been great. As far as I’m concerned, they’ve been great. They treat me great. And you know, they thought a lot of Mike,” he said.
He is not sure why his son was killed or who did it — “I really don’t know what happened. In any organization, there is jealousy. And let’s face it, it boils down to money, jealousy, power, respect, all that kind of thing.”
.Hells Angel’s Nanaimo clubhouse. PHOTO BY KIM BOLAN/POSTMEDIA NEWS /PNG
Widner was born in Courtenay and moved to Victoria to play junior hockey when he was about 20. He was devastated when his younger brother Steve was killed in a car accident in 2007. After hockey, he got into illegal marijuana grow-ops, his mom said. From there, his involvement in the drug trade grew, much to his mother’s chagrin.
“I tried to talk him out of it. I was telling him, ‘You know Mike, you either die in this game, or you go to jail,'” Acorn said. “When he hit a certain success and got the first house in Sooke. … I said to him, ‘Now that you’ve got this why don’t you go back to school and become an electrician, become a plumber? You’ll still make good money. And you won’t have to deal with this world anymore.’
“The money is so easy, it’s hard to get them out of it, especially if they’re successful.”
Mike Widner, who would go on to be a major drug dealer and Hells Angels prospect before being murdered, was a junior hockey player as a teenager. PHOTO BY HANDOUT /PNG
While police were often keeping a watchful eye, her son was never convicted of anything, Acorn said.
He was, however, the subject of a successful civil forfeiture claim in 2012 after Sooke RCMP stopped his car and found him with 25 grams of marijuana, $4,980 cash, a hunting knife and four cellphones. The government agency alleged that “major sources of income for Mr. Widner were obtained from the trafficking of controlled substances.”
Acorn knew her son was a close friend of high-profile Hells Angel Bob Green, who attended Widner’s wedding in Mexico in 2008. But Widner always said he didn’t want to join the biker gang. That changed after Green was shot to death in October 2016, Acorn said.
“As soon as Bob Green died, that’s when they started pressuring him to get into the Angels. And basically, Mike supported the Nanaimo Hells Angels.”
Senior B.C. Hell’s Angel Bob Green, who was killed in 2016, was Mike Widner’s main wholesale supplier of drugs. PNG
A B.C. Supreme Court judge ruled earlier this year that both Widner’s wife Sabrina and his common-law partner Sara Boughton were entitled to shares of his estate. And Justice Jennifer Duncan accepted that Widner had made money in the drug trade that was used to pay off a Sooke house that was in Sabrina’s name.
The judge also summarized details of the medical grow-operation run by Widner and his partner Rick Alexander Jr., the son of Devil’s Army biker club president Rick Alexander Sr. The elder Alexander is awaiting a retrial on a first-degree murder charge that is due to start next May.
The younger Alexander left a letter for Sabrina after Widner was killed “which made it clear that he had been involved with Mike in the grow operation. The letter appears to have been written in a type of code which Ms. Widner said she did not understand. It also contained several different calculations. It referred to “M take 20 right away”, which Ms. Widner assumed meant Mike would get $20,000.”
Sabrina denied any knowledge of her husband’s drug trafficking or link to the HA, while Boughton testified that she was aware of both.
Sabrina’s lawyer declined to comment about the unsolved murder or the status of the civil dispute between the women and Boughton’s lawyer did not respond to a request for comment.
Alexander Jr. declined an interview request.
Some 200 members of the Hells Angels took part in a memorial ride for slain prospect Mike Widner of Sooke on Saturday, April 1, 2017. PHOTO BY CHEK TV /PNG
Sources told The Vancouver Sun that Mike Widner was a successful high-level drug trafficker for years. He was supplying “bulk” cocaine to drug lines from one end of Vancouver Island to the other.
The sources also confirmed that Widner got all his illicit product through Green, a member of the Mission City HA chapter. After Green was killed, Widner began getting his supply from another Lower Mainland Hells Angel.
For years, Widner had been at odds with a rival island trafficker who got his cocaine from a third B.C. Hells Angel. Shortly before Widner was killed, he had convinced the other dealer to start getting his product through Widner, who by then was in the Hells Angels program.
Widner discussed this new client with several full-patch members of the Nanaimo chapter — some of whom were concerned that it would create conflict with some of the Lower Mainland bikers.
Shortly afterwards Widner vanished and was never seen alive again.
Mike Widner, the slain Hells Angels prospect, from the Facebook memorial page dedicated to him. PHOTO BY FACEBOOK /PNG
Families of murder victims with gang links have complained before that police don’t put the resources into the cases because of the unsavoury lifestyle.
The reality is that police in B.C. have had little success getting charges laid in cases where Hells Angels or their associates have been murdered or vanished and are presumed dead.
Since 1993, there have been at least 11 cases where men linked to the Hells Angels have died violently in this province or gone missing without a trace.
In only two of the cases have the killers been arrested. And in both those cases, the accused pleaded guilty to lesser charges, heading off the public airing of the evidence collected.
Earlier this fall, two young Alberta hit men were sentenced to life in prison with no eligibility for parole for 20 years for killing Hardside Hells Angel Suminder “Allie” Grewal in a Surrey drive-thru on a sunny August morning in 2019.
Calvin Junior Powery-Hooker, 22, and Nathan James De Jong, 23, pleaded guilty to second-degree murder on June 11, 2021, meaning a first-degree count each faced was dropped.
In accepting responsibility, neither had to disclose who hired them to murder the popular biker with an AR-15 rifle and a .40 calibre Springfield Armory Model XDM-40 semi-automatic pistol — both restricted and unlicensed.
Justice Michael Brundrett noted in his ruling that “the court was not provided with more detail as to precisely how or why Mr. Grewal became a target for murder.”
In the only other case where a Hells Angel killer was charged, 856 gangster Jason Wallace turned himself in after killing his friend Bob Green at a drug-fuelled all-night party in October 2016. Wallace later pleaded guilty to manslaughter and a second-degree murder count was stayed. He was sentenced to 6½ years. (Greg: If you believe the official story on that someone will try to sell you swampland.)
But in other murders and disappearances, there has been radio silence from police, including the slaying of Grewal’s chapter-mate Chad Wilson, found dead under the Golden Ears Bridge on Nov. 18, 2018.
The superintendent in charge of the Combined Forces Special Enforcement Unit of B.C., Duncan Pound. PHOTO BY JASON PAYNE /PNG
The last time Acorn talked to police about her son’s murder was last year just before the anniversary of his death.
She hoped they might make an appeal for information. Or maybe even a CrimeStoppers re-enactment video to get tips coming in. But she got nowhere.
“They don’t bother with Mike’s case. They don’t care,” she said. “They told me it’s hard enough to get it done for regular people, let alone drug dealers.”
RCMP Sgt. Chris Manseau said Widner’s murder investigation is still being overseen by the Vancouver Island Integrated Major Crime Unit. But he said there is no update on the 3½-year-old probe.
“The only thing I was advised is that this remains an unsolved and open homicide investigation,” Manseau said recently.
Supt. Duncan Pound, of the anti-gang Combined Forces Special Enforcement Unit, said investigators are dedicated to solving all violent crimes, regardless of who the victim is.
Speaking generally, Pound said investigations where either the suspects or victims are connected to organized crime are particularly challenging for police.
“We would definitely consider them as important as any other crime of that nature. And in some ways, perhaps more important if you were to look at it from the lens of perhaps it was done by people who we can reasonably expect might do it again,” Pound said recently. “So it becomes even a higher priority for the police to say, ‘How do we get those people held accountable and in front of the courts in order to prevent future violence?’”
Organized criminals have the ability to insulate themselves by hiring contract killers.
“Where there are people who can pay other people to do it for them, we now have that added layer of complexity,” Pound said.
Police can collect “all the compelling crime scene evidence linking people who have done it” but that isn’t going to necessarily lead to the masterminds of a targeted murder, he said.
“And then it would require a significant sort of mirroring effort of complexity on the part of the police investigating it, in order to be able to gather evidence against the directing minds of the crime.”
Organized crime investigation can be more expensive and longer-term with police having to use more sophisticated investigative techniques. And there are often fewer people with knowledge of the crime willing to come forward, Pound said.
CFSEU tries to educate those on the periphery of organized crime about the risks they face, urging them to choose a different path.
“It’s the young people that agree to (commit a crime for the organization) or the people that are desperate enough to do it who don’t seem to realize that they’re actually a liability to the people who planned it. And then we see them down the line, they also disappear.”
Widner left his house on Eaglecrest Drive just before 9 p.m. on March 8, 2017. It was a four-kilometre drive to William Simmons Memorial Community Park. Locals visit the little park to fish off the dock or walk on the trails. Some throw the kayaks in for a paddle. But there likely wouldn’t have been others around when the Nanaimo prospect arrived after dark.
It surprises his mom that police were not following him.
“They were always following him. They always had a tail on him except that night.” (Greg: What utter nonsense the GRC always had a tail on her darling cocaine dealing bigamist criminal mommy boy yet they couldn't catch him selling a kilo or some weed? The RCMP have budgets there are other criminals other than H.A.M.C. )
Neither parent is holding out hope for justice. Chris Widner said police likely know what happened, “but as far as proof, or witnesses — people get scared — they can’t prove anything.” (Greg: Mr. Widner is saying nothing but good things about the Hell's Angels many ppl are scared of a large criminal crime org with money and international ties. Some are bought off. If it wasn't a club murder ppl would be concerned that the killer of a H.A.M.C. prospect would kill them for informing or testifying.)
Said Acorn: “No charge is ever going to be laid in this.”
Acorn says her son was much more than a drug dealer. He was an adoring father and extremely generous with friends and loved ones. (Greg: The money he made from selling illegal cocaine an addictive substance that can kill or cause psychosis.)
“Mike was a soft person. He had a good heart. You know, if he knew of a family that didn’t have enough money for Christmas, or didn’t have enough groceries, he’d get money to them.” (Greg: Maybe they had no money because they spent it on the drugs he and his buddies peddled. Maybe if he wasn't soft he would still be alive.)
Widner’s dad agreed: “I have a broken heart. And I’ll have a broken heart for the rest of my life because Mike and I were close. I tried to keep him on the right track with hockey. You want your kid to go the right way in life. I don’t know how it went that way.” (Greg: Unfortunately his brother died and very few ppl make it to the world of professional hockey.)
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Why haven't the asset seizure ppl gone after the assets Widner the drug dealer left behind after he was smoked?
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His wife said he didn't have a bank account or anything but a boat and a car left in his name. He listed his income at $1,500 in his 2011 tax return and $300 the following year.
"In 2013, he claimed an income of zero," Duncan wrote.
(Greg: He has a boat and and a car obviously a couple Harleys and declares an income way below that of a welfare receipient of the time for 3 straight years and had a $150k estate when he died. CRA where are you? This is obviously proceeds of crime and should be seized by the govt to pay for the rehab of the cocaine addicts Michael Widner hooked on cocaine.)
The Mickle disappearance the Nanaimo H.A. Pres is unsolved April 30, 1993 – Michael (Zeke) Mickle, president of the Nanaimo Hells Angels, disappeared. He reportedly owed fellow Angels a large amount of money related to a cocaine deal. Still unsolved.
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When Michael Mickle the President of the Nanaimo chapter disappeared
his cell phone call for help was jammed, an HA specialty https://groups.google.com/g/van.general/c/nXRX37849Os/m/HS79ajsBB38J this drugged out wacko recently sold his home at 11147 Huff Blvd Delta. He has admitted he and his wife are totally stressed and his business is a failing business Unit 204 – 13255 78th Avenue IAVS Canada has been the spot of repeated vandalism and threats. He is under Surrey RCMP investigation. Karl Palme of Langley is his porker heavily tattooed cocaine buddy.
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Kim Bolan Releases The B.S. Coroner Report Into Hell's Angel Patch Holder Bob Greens Death Three Death Years Ago By An 856 Member.
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https://vancouversun.com/news/staff-blogs/real-scoop-coroners-report-released-into-bob-greens-2016-slaying/comment-page-1#comment-947252 has the one page coroners report. It says Green was shot three times but it doesn't say where which is total caca. Was he shot 3 times in the back? 3 times in the back of the head? 3 times in the front with a wound through one of his arms? 3 times up the ass? Why is there no toxicology report? These are common in homicides, suicides, fatal car crashes and fatal industrial accidents. Bob Green according to the media and the cops was at an all night drug and booze party with whores at the 856 clubhouse when he was murdered. Maybe he was too messed up on drugs and alcohol to defend himself or keep his guard. Maybe he was slipped LSD or MDMA in a cocktail to render him ineffectual? I notice the coroner was a female Carla Springinotic. https://dir.gov.bc.ca/gtds.cgi?esearch=&for=people&searchString=Carla+Springinotic&objectId=151233 according to this she is a child death coroner. I researched 70 results of her name on Bing and all she has ever done is things in relation to children who had died. Now all of a sudden she is signing off on a pathetic coroners report about the murder of Bob Green a HAMC patch holder. All of one page. No description where the bullet wounds were on the body. No toxicology report. Kim Bolan says she was surprised to receive the report and the report was 3 years late. Is Springinotic the scapegoat dupe, was she threatened with death or gang rape by Hell's Angels and corrupt police officers? This is total crap.
The Death Of Mission Full Patch Hell's Angel Bob Green
Greg Carr
1/10/18
Gangster who shot Hells Angel told kill yourself, be killed or we kill
your family
Kim Bolan / Vancouver Sun
JANUARY 6, 2018 02:40 PM
Property on 72nd Avenue where Hells Angel Bob Green was killed.
Photograph By PNG
VANCOUVER — Hours after shooting Hells Angel Bob Green, Jason Wallace
found himself alone with an unimaginable choice.
Devastated, drunk and high on drugs, the 856 gangster had driven to a
spot near Harrison Lake where he had previously camped.
He called his friend Justin to talk. But someone else took over the
phone.
The mystery man gave Wallace two options: He could kill himself. Or he
could turn himself in to the Hells Angels and they would do it for
him.
If he didn’t, his family would be executed. (Greg-HAMC give us an excuse we will kill children what the hell we have done it before in Quebec, California and Oregon and we have numerous patchs in prison for child porn heck Moms Boucher raped a girl with a weapon did his time then we patched him up. Tom Strenja a HA support t-shirt wearing puke the son of a HA associate threatened to kill my family and myself various times in person and on Facebook Messenger the police in Vancouver and Surrey wouldn't even give me a file number so he was probably an informant for them. Eventually Mr.Strenja received a 4 year 4 months sentence for shooting a woman twice in Stave Falls, B.C. and even then he needed an accomplice. His arrest was caught by a news crew and is on YouTube. Mr. Strenja took out a restraining order on me from prison if you can believe it. What a totally gutless lowlife. Never heard of him winning a fight against a man although he used to beat his wife Crystal Roma who he cheated on. We used to work together at 8400 River Rd. Delta now the DAMCO warehouse with liar, thief, bully, sexual harraser Tony Beck as the warehouse manager. Tony Beck and Collette Babinszki and Chris Kaulbeck were the management team that gave Tom Strenja a $100 bonus as employee of the month the same month they fired him. Tony Beck used to use Tom Strenja to spy on us when we worked at the satellite warehouse at 590 Ebury Place Delta on Annacis Island. You should have seen dip Tom Strenja with the phone glued to his ear taking orders from Tony Beck. Feel free to look these names on Google.
It took Wallace until the next day — Oct. 17, 2016 — to make a
different choice.
Just after 9:30 a.m., he placed a distraught 911 call during which he
confessed to killing Green at a drug-fuelled 19-hour party in a
makeshift gang clubhouse.
And he told police his family was in danger.
Wallace was arrested and charged with second-degree murder, saving
himself from the biker threats to his life.
His close friend Shaun Clary, who brought to the party the gun that
Wallace fired in Green’s direction, was not so lucky. Clary’s
dismembered body was found on Robertson Crescent in Langley, 10 days
after the high-profile Hells Angels’ slaying.
Shocking new details about the night Green died are revealed in court
documents obtained by Postmedia News from Wallace’s surprise guilty
plea and sentencing hearing in November.
Surrey provincial court Judge Ellen Gordon handed the longtime
criminal 6½ years for manslaughter. The original murder charge was
dropped.
The documents provide the likely motive for Clary’s grisly demise — he
was part of a drunken dispute that led Wallace to grab Clary’s loaded
handgun and fire it, striking an intoxicated Green in the head.
On the day of Wallace’s guilty plea, the Integrated Homicide
Investigation Team said publicly for the first time that the Clary
murder and the Green shooting were linked. But IHIT provided no
details about how the deaths were connected.
Postmedia has pieced together the story of that deadly day and its
disturbing aftermath.
•••
It was just after 3 p.m. on Oct. 15, 2016, when Green, Wallace, his
brother Taylor, Clary and several others arrived at the 856 Gang’s
makeshift clubhouse, in a rented Quonset hut on a rural Langley
acreage at 23788 72nd Ave.
They were ready to party. There was booze, cocaine, GHB, MDMA,
ketamine and nitrous oxide (laughing gas). They were inhaling the gas
from balloons that Clary was in charge of filling from gas canisters.
Green, 56, had been associated to the 856 Gang since its formation in
the mid-2000s, through his cousin Lenny Pelletier and Pelletier’s son
Caylen.
The Pelletiers were also close to Wallace, who was then 27. In fact,
the elder Pelletier and Wallace were co-accused in a drug trafficking
case and were out on bail the night of the fatal party.
Closed-circuit cameras fixed on the exterior of the Quonset hut showed
the comings and goings over the critical 20 hours on Oct. 15 and 16.
Just before 8 p.m. on Oct. 15, Wallace, his brother, Green and two
others left the hut, driving off in Green’s Chevy Suburban. They
returned almost four hours later and continued inhaling from their gas
balloons.
Green, meanwhile, had called his friend Mandev Johal telling him that
he would need a ride home that night. Johal left Vancouver and picked
up a friend in Burnaby before heading out to the 856 clubhouse to
drive Green home.
Those gathered inside the two-storey Quonset hut left again, about 1
a.m., after sucking in nitrous oxide for another hour.
Green’s Suburban is seen on the surveillance footage, followed by
Johal’s Tahoe, arriving back at the clubhouse just after 2 a.m.
“The males were seen hugging each other and shaking hands as they all
entered the Quonset hut,” said the agreed statement of facts read at
Wallace’s sentencing hearing by Crown prosecutor Dianne Wiedemann.
“Inside the Quonset hut, one of the associates of the 856 Gang, Mr.
Clary, tended the bar. Clary poured drinks and filled balloons with
nitrous gas, which was being inhaled by the other partygoers. Cocaine
was also being used.”
Two men were seen leaving the hut at 2:37 a.m. on Oct. 16. Green,
Jason Wallace, Taylor Wallace, Clary, Johal and his friend remained
inside, where they continued to consume alcohol, cocaine and nitrous
oxide gas.
At 6 a.m., Johal called Cover Girls Escorts and asked for two women to
be sent over, the statement of facts said. Cover Girls advertises its
“elite companions and exotic dancers” online for $300 an hour or
$1,000 for four hours.
The women arrived at about 7:18 a.m., each dropped off by her own
driver.
Half an hour later, Jason Wallace can be seen on video running out of
the building with an inflated balloon of nitrous oxide. At that point,
he would have been partying for almost 17 hours straight.
He bends over and stumbles as if vomiting or coughing, then walks into
the woods.
“Clary runs back and forth from the Quonset hut to where Wallace had
gone. At 7:56 a.m., the two embraced and then both walked back into
the hut,” the document stated.
Johal told authorities that “as the drinking and gas inhalation
continued inside the hut … the vibe started to change.”
“Johal felt as though the younger males, including the accused
Wallace, his brother Taylor and Clary, had something against him,” the
statement of facts said.
Johal said the 856 gangsters were making racial comments to him. He
thought they were trying to impress Green — a 20-year Hells Angel who
was with the Mission City charter when he died.
“As the party progressed, one of the younger males moved one of the
compressed gas cylinders upstairs and the party moved to the second
floor of the Quonset hut.”
Taylor Wallace and Johal’s Burnaby friend crashed on the lower floor
of the clubhouse.
Johal felt that the demeanour of the gangsters was changing as they
were doing more and more nitrous gas while still drinking.
“Johal believed the younger males were loaded and later described
their judgment as ‘totally f–ked OK, they’re loaded, no control. It’s
one thing to drink and be hammered, but there’s no control there
obviously,’” the documents said.
Johal believed the gas made them delusional.
As tensions grew, one of the younger men there said words like ‘I’m
going to get you,’ and then pulled something from the couch.
“As this happened, another one of the younger males swung at Johal.
Johal blocked the punch and in one motion, got up and ran towards the
exit of the Quonset hut.”
As he ran, Johal heard Green say: “Hey, what are you doing?”
Johal thought he was being chased and ran off into a field as he
called 911. It was just after 10 a.m.
The two escorts remained at the party. One of them named Autumn later
said that Green argued with one of the younger guys, who pulled out a
gun.
“Green was challenging the male saying something to the effect of,
`You cannot kill me,’ and then: ‘Shoot me if you can, shoot me if you
can, you’re never gonna do it, shoot me if you can,’ ” the documents
said.
Jason Wallace was so out of it, he later told police, that he didn’t
think the escorts were there when the shooting happened.
“It was Wallace’s perception, admittedly compromised in large part by
intoxication, that the argument was between Clary and Johal, and
others were present but he cannot recall who those others were,” the
documents said. “He believes there was a group that he perceived to be
on the Johal side of the argument and he and Clary on another. Wallace
cannot recall any actual physical altercation but cannot deny one
occurred. He simply was unaware of it.”
Wallace told police that he and Clary were behind the couch where
Green was seated and that Johal and others were on the other end of
the couch from Green.
He thought some of the others were coming at him. He said he saw Clary
put his hand on a gun in his waistband.
“Wallace then grabbed the gun. He worked the slide to cock it and the
gun went off striking Green. Wallace then fired in the direction of
the feet of the others and Green somehow fell into or was struck by
the second shot which was not intended to do more than frighten others
and move them away from advancing.”
“The shots were virtually one, instantly followed by the second.”
The Crown accepted Wallace’s statement that “Green was never an
intended target and the gun was intended to only back away a perceived
threat.”
Wallace had a gun in his vehicle, but had not taken it into the party.
“The gun used in the shooting of Green had been brought in by Clary.
Wallace believes he dropped that gun immediately upon realizing his
friend Green had been shot. Wallace immediately left the scene and was
not involved in any clean up of the scene.”
Green was shot at 10:09 on the morning of Oct. 16.
Immediately afterwards, Wallace is seen on the video footage walking
out of the Quonset hut. He had an inflated balloon. His brother is
following him, also carrying a balloon and a black and blue duffel
bag. Wallace fumbles as he puts on his hoodie while talking to Clary
outside.
The killer then gets into his Pontiac G8 and takes off.
“Neighbours observed Wallace accelerate down the road looking
anxious,” the court documents said.
Wallace’s brother leaves in another vehicle. Johal’s friend also
leaves just before Clary gets into Green’s Suburban, picking up the
Burnaby man on his way out. The escorts get picked up at 10:23 a.m. by
two drivers.
Almost 30 minutes after Johal called 911, police were dispatched. They
picked up Johal in the 7000-block of 240th Street, then headed to the
Quonset hut.
Officers arrived about 11 a.m. They found Green slouched over on the
second-floor couch.
“Green was not breathing and his skin looked pale and was turning
bluish. There was blood all over the couch and blood smeared on
Green’s right temple. Police performed CPR on Green.”
Paramedics got there at 11:16 a.m. and took over the CPR.
But the biker had no pulse and was still not breathing.
He was pronounced dead at 11:30 a.m.
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Early the next morning, neighbours watched with curiosity as a woman
and small children ran from a house Jason Wallace owned in Abbotsford.
They left breakfast sitting on the table.
Wallace had bought the home just six months earlier for $600,000. He
listed his profession as a concrete designer.
The same neighbours saw police descend on the residence later in the
day after Wallace turned himself in.
During his desperate 911 call that morning, Wallace told the operator
that he wanted to drive to the Surrey RCMP detachment. He said he had
a gun with him in the back seat of his Pontiac and thought it was the
weapon he “used to shoot his friend,” the court documents said.
Part of his call to 911 was read into the record at his sentencing
hearing:
Wallace: “I’m gonna turn myself in.”
Operator: “OK.”
Wallace: “My family’s in danger.”
Operator: “OK.”
Wallace: “And I wanna make sure they’re safe.”
Operator: “You’ve turned yourself in to where? Sorry, you’re turning
yourself in to where?”
Wallace: “To the Surrey RCMP.”
Operator: “And where are you right now?”
Wallace: “I’m driving down towards the jail.”
Operator: “OK. Why do you think your family is unsafe?”
Wallace: “Because my — my friend is a Hells Angels and I f–king killed
him for some reason.”
Operator: “And you say — and you said your friend was killed.”
Wallace: “Yeah. Well, I think he’s dead. I don’t know. I was out of my
mind on drugs and shit. I don’t even understand how it happened.”
Operator: “Where were you when this happened?”
Wallace: “We were partying and doing drugs and shit in Langley.”
Operator: “OK. Where in Langley?”
Wallace: “232nd Street and like 72nd or something like that.”
Operator: “When did this — when was that?”
Wallace: “The other night. I don’t know. I’ve been awake for a few
days. I’m — I’m f–ked right up.”
Operator: “And so you said your friend died? How did he die?”
Wallace: “I’m pretty sure I f–king shot him. I don’t even know how.”
Operator: “You think you shot him?”
Wallace: “Yeah, and I don’t even understand how or why — or even why
or nothing, I don’t know.”
Operator: “You don’t know what happened?”
Wallace: “I don’t even know. I was like my mind wasn’t even there. It
was like I was so f–ked up.”
Wallace broke down and cried as the operator urged him to take a deep
breath. He described drinking and doing drugs for days.
While still on the phone, Wallace was surrounded by Surrey RCMP and
arrested. Police found a Glock handgun and a folding knife in his car.
A test on the Glock indicated it was not the gun used to kill Green.
In a news release that day, IHIT congratulated itself on the quick
arrest, saying it spoke to “the tenacity of all agencies involved.”
Clary’s remains were found just after 7 a.m. on Oct. 26, dumped on the
side of Robertson Crescent, near 243rd Street, in Langley. Police
called the indignities done to his body “barbaric.”
It seemed to be a clear message. A high-profile Hells Angel lived up
the road from where Clary was dumped. An 856 leader also owned
property nearby.
Details of Clary’s last days are sparse. Several friends contacted by
Postmedia did not respond to requests for interviews.
At the time of his death, Clary listed his employment at Smithrite
Disposal, the Coquitlam-based recycling and garbage company.
He had a minor criminal record, including convictions for assault and
breach of conditions. He was also the subject of a peace bond after
allegations of uttering threats.
His Facebook page is full of pictures of him wearing bandanas over his
mouth, guns and associates flashing their middle fingers. He says he
went to Johnston Heights Secondary in Surrey.
At Wallace’s sentencing, his lawyer Robert Claus said Wallace feels
terrible about what happened to both Green and Clary.
“The victim, here, of his act, was one of his best friends and the
person whose gun he took and was using at the time, was another friend
who has been killed. His own family, he’s put them in danger,” Claus
said. “He suffers enormous guilt and tremendous remorse.”
Wallace sold his house in Abbotsford last July for $700,000, according
to land title records. The whereabouts of his family are unknown.
None of Green’s relatives, including wife Pam, showed up at Wallace’s
sentencing nor submitted victim impact statements to the court.
Property records show Pam sold the family home in North Burnaby last
June for $1.6 million. Her Facebook page indicates she has moved out
of the country.
Postmedia obtained a copy of Green’s will and probate records. He left
almost everything to his wife — their home, his 2013 Harley, the
$30,000 cash in his bank accounts.
From the estate, she had to pay off a $401,000 mortgage, some
miscellaneous bills and more than $31,000 for Green’s elaborate
funeral, attended by hundreds of bikers from across Canada.
But the prominent Hells Angels’ other family was also acknowledged in
his will, which was signed less than five months before his slaying.
Anything that Green possessed bearing the Hells Angels name or logo
“including any documents, literature, photographs, negatives,
clothing, jewelry, decals, embossed or embroidered items, or any other
items” had to be returned to the notorious gang, the will said.
“These items are the property of the Hells Angels Motorcycle Club and
have been loaned to me for my use and benefit for as long as I remain
a member in good standing with the said club.”
While Wallace has pledged to change his life once he’s out of jail,
the gang he’s been a part of for more than a decade is still around.
“The 856 have been in a bit of chaos since the Bob Green murder and
subsequent murder of Clary. That’s understandable, given the
significance of the murder and who was involved,” said Staff Sgt.
Lindsey Houghton of the Combined Forces Special Enforcement Unit.
The ripple effects of the death of a high-ranking gangster or even a
significant arrest can destabilize any crime group, Houghton said.
“The 856, however, still exists and still has a presence in the drug
trafficking landscape despite the murders.”
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Kim Bolan said at the time there was two gunshots that killed Bob Green. Now the coroners report said there were three bullet wounds and Kim Bolan is saying that was what was reported at the time which is obviously isn't true. I recall at the time of Green's murder ppl posting to Facebook what a great family man he was yet no one from his family showed up at his killers sentencing a mere 6.5 years. I noted what kind of family man with children attends an all night party with drugs, booze and whores? One guy posted he saw Bob Green boot some woman in the head at a party.
This whole affair totally reeks Bob Greens HA "brothers" don't care and the well paid justice ministry officials don't care at a bare minimum. I posted a few things to the Real Scoop blog tonight that didn't propogate for some reason
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13 Nov 2021, 23:55:50 (7 minutes ago)
B.C. mom frustrated no one has been charged in biker son's murder
Police says investigations involving gang murders are exceptionally complicated
Author of the article:Kim Bolan
Publishing date:Nov 12, 2021 • 22 hours ago • 11 minute read • 8 Comments
Mike Widner, the slain Hels Angels prospect, from the Facebook memorial page dedicated to him. PHOTO BY FACEBOOK /PNG
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When Reta Acorn didn’t get an expected call from her son Mike Widner in early March 2017, she knew instantly that something was wrong.
He always phoned his mom at her Sooke home while he was staying with his young family in Shawnigan Lake, Acorn said recently.
She called her son’s common-law spouse Sara, who told her Mike hadn’t shown up as expected the night before.
Acorn sent a friend to a Sooke park where Mike was supposed to meet one of his business partner in a legal medical marijuana growing operation about 9 p.m. the day he vanished. The friend called her to say her son’s car was abandoned in the park.
“What do you mean Mike’s car is there?” she asked. “He says, ‘It’s parked. It’s sitting right there.’ And so I phoned Sara back and I said his car is at the park. But it’s locked. And he’s not in it.”
“So then I knew. Intuition told me then that something happened to him.”
Reta Acorn, mother of slain Hells Angels prospect, Mike Widner, in Port Alberni. PHOTO BY MIKE YOUDS /PNG
Acorn went to the Sooke RCMP office to try to report her 39-year-old son missing. But there was a complication. Widner had been living a secret double life — with a wife and two kids in Sooke — and his common-law spouse Sara and two toddlers at Shawnigan Lake. His uncommon family life meant it was not unusual for him to be out of contact.
His wife Sabrina — who didn’t know about the other family — told her mother-in-law that her husband was likely up in Black Creek for work and staying with a friend. Sabrina didn’t see the need to contact police.
Sooke RCMP later called Acorn back and agreed to take the missing person’s report. Police then issued a news release about Widner’s disappearance, describing him as a local resident and saying his black Volkswagen Golf was found at Poirier Lake, not far from downtown.
There was no mention of the fact that Widner had been accepted into the Hells Angels and achieved the level of “prospect” with the Nanaimo chapter. And there were no details about his other family 50 kilometres north up the Island Highway.
Acorn said that despite her general distrust of police, she told them everything about her son’s criminal connections.
“I told them my son’s a drug dealer. I told them everything I knew. I didn’t care. I wanted my son found,” she recalled.
Four days later, her worst fears were realized. A hiker came upon Mike Widner’s body along the Pacific Marine route several kilometres from Port Renfrew.
More than four years later, Acorn is frustrated by the lack of progress in the murder investigation. She feels the Mounties are not motivated to solve the case because of Widner’s involvement in the drug trade and the notorious biker gang.
“I was getting inside information and I fed it to this one RCMP officer and not one damn thing was done about anything. Nothing,” Acorn said. “The RCMP don’t care about his murder. They really don’t. They just look at it as another drug dealer gone and one less thing they have to worry about.”
Acorn believes someone in the Hells Angels targeted her son, though police won’t comment beyond saying the investigation remains open, the murder unsolved.
William Simmons Park, location of Poirier Lake, in Sooke B.C. This is where Hell’s Angel Mike Widner disappeared, his car left abandoned. He was found murdered a few days later.
William Simmons Park, location of Poirier Lake, in Sooke B.C. This is where Hell’s Angel Mike Widner disappeared, his car left abandoned. He was found murdered a few days later. PHOTO BY KIM BOLAN /PNG
Widner’s dad, Chris, has a different take than his ex-wife. He said that the Nanaimo Hells Angels loved his son and were devastated when he was killed.
They gave him his full-patch the next day, the elder Widner said, and hung the slain biker’s vest in the Nanaimo clubhouse.
“The Nanaimo Hells Angels have been great. As far as I’m concerned, they’ve been great. They treat me great. And you know, they thought a lot of Mike,” he said.
He is not sure why his son was killed or who did it — “I really don’t know what happened. In any organization, there is jealousy. And let’s face it, it boils down to money, jealousy, power, respect, all that kind of thing.”
.Hells Angel’s Nanaimo clubhouse. PHOTO BY KIM BOLAN/POSTMEDIA NEWS /PNG
Widner was born in Courtenay and moved to Victoria to play junior hockey when he was about 20. He was devastated when his younger brother Steve was killed in a car accident in 2007. After hockey, he got into illegal marijuana grow-ops, his mom said. From there, his involvement in the drug trade grew, much to his mother’s chagrin.
“I tried to talk him out of it. I was telling him, ‘You know Mike, you either die in this game, or you go to jail,'” Acorn said. “When he hit a certain success and got the first house in Sooke. … I said to him, ‘Now that you’ve got this why don’t you go back to school and become an electrician, become a plumber? You’ll still make good money. And you won’t have to deal with this world anymore.’
“The money is so easy, it’s hard to get them out of it, especially if they’re successful.”
Mike Widner, who would go on to be a major drug dealer and Hells Angels prospect before being murdered, was a junior hockey player as a teenager. PHOTO BY HANDOUT /PNG
While police were often keeping a watchful eye, her son was never convicted of anything, Acorn said.
He was, however, the subject of a successful civil forfeiture claim in 2012 after Sooke RCMP stopped his car and found him with 25 grams of marijuana, $4,980 cash, a hunting knife and four cellphones. The government agency alleged that “major sources of income for Mr. Widner were obtained from the trafficking of controlled substances.”
Acorn knew her son was a close friend of high-profile Hells Angel Bob Green, who attended Widner’s wedding in Mexico in 2008. But Widner always said he didn’t want to join the biker gang. That changed after Green was shot to death in October 2016, Acorn said.
“As soon as Bob Green died, that’s when they started pressuring him to get into the Angels. And basically, Mike supported the Nanaimo Hells Angels.”
Senior B.C. Hell’s Angel Bob Green, who was killed in 2016, was Mike Widner’s main wholesale supplier of drugs. PNG
A B.C. Supreme Court judge ruled earlier this year that both Widner’s wife Sabrina and his common-law partner Sara Boughton were entitled to shares of his estate. And Justice Jennifer Duncan accepted that Widner had made money in the drug trade that was used to pay off a Sooke house that was in Sabrina’s name.
The judge also summarized details of the medical grow-operation run by Widner and his partner Rick Alexander Jr., the son of Devil’s Army biker club president Rick Alexander Sr. The elder Alexander is awaiting a retrial on a first-degree murder charge that is due to start next May.
The younger Alexander left a letter for Sabrina after Widner was killed “which made it clear that he had been involved with Mike in the grow operation. The letter appears to have been written in a type of code which Ms. Widner said she did not understand. It also contained several different calculations. It referred to “M take 20 right away”, which Ms. Widner assumed meant Mike would get $20,000.”
Sabrina denied any knowledge of her husband’s drug trafficking or link to the HA, while Boughton testified that she was aware of both.
Sabrina’s lawyer declined to comment about the unsolved murder or the status of the civil dispute between the women and Boughton’s lawyer did not respond to a request for comment.
Alexander Jr. declined an interview request.
Some 200 members of the Hells Angels took part in a memorial ride for slain prospect Mike Widner of Sooke on Saturday, April 1, 2017. PHOTO BY CHEK TV /PNG
Sources told The Vancouver Sun that Mike Widner was a successful high-level drug trafficker for years. He was supplying “bulk” cocaine to drug lines from one end of Vancouver Island to the other.
The sources also confirmed that Widner got all his illicit product through Green, a member of the Mission City HA chapter. After Green was killed, Widner began getting his supply from another Lower Mainland Hells Angel.
For years, Widner had been at odds with a rival island trafficker who got his cocaine from a third B.C. Hells Angel. Shortly before Widner was killed, he had convinced the other dealer to start getting his product through Widner, who by then was in the Hells Angels program.
Widner discussed this new client with several full-patch members of the Nanaimo chapter — some of whom were concerned that it would create conflict with some of the Lower Mainland bikers.
Shortly afterwards Widner vanished and was never seen alive again.
Mike Widner, the slain Hells Angels prospect, from the Facebook memorial page dedicated to him. PHOTO BY FACEBOOK /PNG
Families of murder victims with gang links have complained before that police don’t put the resources into the cases because of the unsavoury lifestyle.
The reality is that police in B.C. have had little success getting charges laid in cases where Hells Angels or their associates have been murdered or vanished and are presumed dead.
Since 1993, there have been at least 11 cases where men linked to the Hells Angels have died violently in this province or gone missing without a trace.
In only two of the cases have the killers been arrested. And in both those cases, the accused pleaded guilty to lesser charges, heading off the public airing of the evidence collected.
Earlier this fall, two young Alberta hit men were sentenced to life in prison with no eligibility for parole for 20 years for killing Hardside Hells Angel Suminder “Allie” Grewal in a Surrey drive-thru on a sunny August morning in 2019.
Calvin Junior Powery-Hooker, 22, and Nathan James De Jong, 23, pleaded guilty to second-degree murder on June 11, 2021, meaning a first-degree count each faced was dropped.
In accepting responsibility, neither had to disclose who hired them to murder the popular biker with an AR-15 rifle and a .40 calibre Springfield Armory Model XDM-40 semi-automatic pistol — both restricted and unlicensed.
Justice Michael Brundrett noted in his ruling that “the court was not provided with more detail as to precisely how or why Mr. Grewal became a target for murder.”
In the only other case where a Hells Angel killer was charged, 856 gangster Jason Wallace turned himself in after killing his friend Bob Green at a drug-fuelled all-night party in October 2016. Wallace later pleaded guilty to manslaughter and a second-degree murder count was stayed. He was sentenced to 6½ years. (Greg: If you believe the official story on that someone will try to sell you swampland.)
But in other murders and disappearances, there has been radio silence from police, including the slaying of Grewal’s chapter-mate Chad Wilson, found dead under the Golden Ears Bridge on Nov. 18, 2018.
The superintendent in charge of the Combined Forces Special Enforcement Unit of B.C., Duncan Pound. PHOTO BY JASON PAYNE /PNG
The last time Acorn talked to police about her son’s murder was last year just before the anniversary of his death.
She hoped they might make an appeal for information. Or maybe even a CrimeStoppers re-enactment video to get tips coming in. But she got nowhere.
“They don’t bother with Mike’s case. They don’t care,” she said. “They told me it’s hard enough to get it done for regular people, let alone drug dealers.”
RCMP Sgt. Chris Manseau said Widner’s murder investigation is still being overseen by the Vancouver Island Integrated Major Crime Unit. But he said there is no update on the 3½-year-old probe.
“The only thing I was advised is that this remains an unsolved and open homicide investigation,” Manseau said recently.
Supt. Duncan Pound, of the anti-gang Combined Forces Special Enforcement Unit, said investigators are dedicated to solving all violent crimes, regardless of who the victim is.
Speaking generally, Pound said investigations where either the suspects or victims are connected to organized crime are particularly challenging for police.
“We would definitely consider them as important as any other crime of that nature. And in some ways, perhaps more important if you were to look at it from the lens of perhaps it was done by people who we can reasonably expect might do it again,” Pound said recently. “So it becomes even a higher priority for the police to say, ‘How do we get those people held accountable and in front of the courts in order to prevent future violence?’”
Organized criminals have the ability to insulate themselves by hiring contract killers.
“Where there are people who can pay other people to do it for them, we now have that added layer of complexity,” Pound said.
Police can collect “all the compelling crime scene evidence linking people who have done it” but that isn’t going to necessarily lead to the masterminds of a targeted murder, he said.
“And then it would require a significant sort of mirroring effort of complexity on the part of the police investigating it, in order to be able to gather evidence against the directing minds of the crime.”
Organized crime investigation can be more expensive and longer-term with police having to use more sophisticated investigative techniques. And there are often fewer people with knowledge of the crime willing to come forward, Pound said.
CFSEU tries to educate those on the periphery of organized crime about the risks they face, urging them to choose a different path.
“It’s the young people that agree to (commit a crime for the organization) or the people that are desperate enough to do it who don’t seem to realize that they’re actually a liability to the people who planned it. And then we see them down the line, they also disappear.”
Widner left his house on Eaglecrest Drive just before 9 p.m. on March 8, 2017. It was a four-kilometre drive to William Simmons Memorial Community Park. Locals visit the little park to fish off the dock or walk on the trails. Some throw the kayaks in for a paddle. But there likely wouldn’t have been others around when the Nanaimo prospect arrived after dark.
It surprises his mom that police were not following him.
“They were always following him. They always had a tail on him except that night.” (Greg: What utter nonsense the GRC always had a tail on her darling cocaine dealing bigamist criminal mommy boy yet they couldn't catch him selling a kilo or some weed? The RCMP have budgets there are other criminals other than H.A.M.C. )
Neither parent is holding out hope for justice. Chris Widner said police likely know what happened, “but as far as proof, or witnesses — people get scared — they can’t prove anything.” (Greg: Mr. Widner is saying nothing but good things about the Hell's Angels many ppl are scared of a large criminal crime org with money and international ties. Some are bought off. If it wasn't a club murder ppl would be concerned that the killer of a H.A.M.C. prospect would kill them for informing or testifying.)
Said Acorn: “No charge is ever going to be laid in this.”
Acorn says her son was much more than a drug dealer. He was an adoring father and extremely generous with friends and loved ones. (Greg: The money he made from selling illegal cocaine an addictive substance that can kill or cause psychosis.)
“Mike was a soft person. He had a good heart. You know, if he knew of a family that didn’t have enough money for Christmas, or didn’t have enough groceries, he’d get money to them.” (Greg: Maybe they had no money because they spent it on the drugs he and his buddies peddled. Maybe if he wasn't soft he would still be alive.)
Widner’s dad agreed: “I have a broken heart. And I’ll have a broken heart for the rest of my life because Mike and I were close. I tried to keep him on the right track with hockey. You want your kid to go the right way in life. I don’t know how it went that way.” (Greg: Unfortunately his brother died and very few ppl make it to the world of professional hockey.)
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Why haven't the asset seizure ppl gone after the assets Widner the drug dealer left behind after he was smoked?
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His wife said he didn't have a bank account or anything but a boat and a car left in his name. He listed his income at $1,500 in his 2011 tax return and $300 the following year.
"In 2013, he claimed an income of zero," Duncan wrote.
(Greg: He has a boat and and a car obviously a couple Harleys and declares an income way below that of a welfare receipient of the time for 3 straight years and had a $150k estate when he died. CRA where are you? This is obviously proceeds of crime and should be seized by the govt to pay for the rehab of the cocaine addicts Michael Widner hooked on cocaine.)
The Mickle disappearance the Nanaimo H.A. Pres is unsolved April 30, 1993 – Michael (Zeke) Mickle, president of the Nanaimo Hells Angels, disappeared. He reportedly owed fellow Angels a large amount of money related to a cocaine deal. Still unsolved.
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When Michael Mickle the President of the Nanaimo chapter disappeared
his cell phone call for help was jammed, an HA specialty https://groups.google.com/g/van.general/c/nXRX37849Os/m/HS79ajsBB38J this drugged out wacko recently sold his home at 11147 Huff Blvd Delta. He has admitted he and his wife are totally stressed and his business is a failing business Unit 204 – 13255 78th Avenue IAVS Canada has been the spot of repeated vandalism and threats. He is under Surrey RCMP investigation. Karl Palme of Langley is his porker heavily tattooed cocaine buddy.
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Kim Bolan Releases The B.S. Coroner Report Into Hell's Angel Patch Holder Bob Greens Death Three Death Years Ago By An 856 Member.
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https://vancouversun.com/news/staff-blogs/real-scoop-coroners-report-released-into-bob-greens-2016-slaying/comment-page-1#comment-947252 has the one page coroners report. It says Green was shot three times but it doesn't say where which is total caca. Was he shot 3 times in the back? 3 times in the back of the head? 3 times in the front with a wound through one of his arms? 3 times up the ass? Why is there no toxicology report? These are common in homicides, suicides, fatal car crashes and fatal industrial accidents. Bob Green according to the media and the cops was at an all night drug and booze party with whores at the 856 clubhouse when he was murdered. Maybe he was too messed up on drugs and alcohol to defend himself or keep his guard. Maybe he was slipped LSD or MDMA in a cocktail to render him ineffectual? I notice the coroner was a female Carla Springinotic. https://dir.gov.bc.ca/gtds.cgi?esearch=&for=people&searchString=Carla+Springinotic&objectId=151233 according to this she is a child death coroner. I researched 70 results of her name on Bing and all she has ever done is things in relation to children who had died. Now all of a sudden she is signing off on a pathetic coroners report about the murder of Bob Green a HAMC patch holder. All of one page. No description where the bullet wounds were on the body. No toxicology report. Kim Bolan says she was surprised to receive the report and the report was 3 years late. Is Springinotic the scapegoat dupe, was she threatened with death or gang rape by Hell's Angels and corrupt police officers? This is total crap.
The Death Of Mission Full Patch Hell's Angel Bob Green
Greg Carr
1/10/18
Gangster who shot Hells Angel told kill yourself, be killed or we kill
your family
Kim Bolan / Vancouver Sun
JANUARY 6, 2018 02:40 PM
Property on 72nd Avenue where Hells Angel Bob Green was killed.
Photograph By PNG
VANCOUVER — Hours after shooting Hells Angel Bob Green, Jason Wallace
found himself alone with an unimaginable choice.
Devastated, drunk and high on drugs, the 856 gangster had driven to a
spot near Harrison Lake where he had previously camped.
He called his friend Justin to talk. But someone else took over the
phone.
The mystery man gave Wallace two options: He could kill himself. Or he
could turn himself in to the Hells Angels and they would do it for
him.
If he didn’t, his family would be executed. (Greg-HAMC give us an excuse we will kill children what the hell we have done it before in Quebec, California and Oregon and we have numerous patchs in prison for child porn heck Moms Boucher raped a girl with a weapon did his time then we patched him up. Tom Strenja a HA support t-shirt wearing puke the son of a HA associate threatened to kill my family and myself various times in person and on Facebook Messenger the police in Vancouver and Surrey wouldn't even give me a file number so he was probably an informant for them. Eventually Mr.Strenja received a 4 year 4 months sentence for shooting a woman twice in Stave Falls, B.C. and even then he needed an accomplice. His arrest was caught by a news crew and is on YouTube. Mr. Strenja took out a restraining order on me from prison if you can believe it. What a totally gutless lowlife. Never heard of him winning a fight against a man although he used to beat his wife Crystal Roma who he cheated on. We used to work together at 8400 River Rd. Delta now the DAMCO warehouse with liar, thief, bully, sexual harraser Tony Beck as the warehouse manager. Tony Beck and Collette Babinszki and Chris Kaulbeck were the management team that gave Tom Strenja a $100 bonus as employee of the month the same month they fired him. Tony Beck used to use Tom Strenja to spy on us when we worked at the satellite warehouse at 590 Ebury Place Delta on Annacis Island. You should have seen dip Tom Strenja with the phone glued to his ear taking orders from Tony Beck. Feel free to look these names on Google.
It took Wallace until the next day — Oct. 17, 2016 — to make a
different choice.
Just after 9:30 a.m., he placed a distraught 911 call during which he
confessed to killing Green at a drug-fuelled 19-hour party in a
makeshift gang clubhouse.
And he told police his family was in danger.
Wallace was arrested and charged with second-degree murder, saving
himself from the biker threats to his life.
His close friend Shaun Clary, who brought to the party the gun that
Wallace fired in Green’s direction, was not so lucky. Clary’s
dismembered body was found on Robertson Crescent in Langley, 10 days
after the high-profile Hells Angels’ slaying.
Shocking new details about the night Green died are revealed in court
documents obtained by Postmedia News from Wallace’s surprise guilty
plea and sentencing hearing in November.
Surrey provincial court Judge Ellen Gordon handed the longtime
criminal 6½ years for manslaughter. The original murder charge was
dropped.
The documents provide the likely motive for Clary’s grisly demise — he
was part of a drunken dispute that led Wallace to grab Clary’s loaded
handgun and fire it, striking an intoxicated Green in the head.
On the day of Wallace’s guilty plea, the Integrated Homicide
Investigation Team said publicly for the first time that the Clary
murder and the Green shooting were linked. But IHIT provided no
details about how the deaths were connected.
Postmedia has pieced together the story of that deadly day and its
disturbing aftermath.
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It was just after 3 p.m. on Oct. 15, 2016, when Green, Wallace, his
brother Taylor, Clary and several others arrived at the 856 Gang’s
makeshift clubhouse, in a rented Quonset hut on a rural Langley
acreage at 23788 72nd Ave.
They were ready to party. There was booze, cocaine, GHB, MDMA,
ketamine and nitrous oxide (laughing gas). They were inhaling the gas
from balloons that Clary was in charge of filling from gas canisters.
Green, 56, had been associated to the 856 Gang since its formation in
the mid-2000s, through his cousin Lenny Pelletier and Pelletier’s son
Caylen.
The Pelletiers were also close to Wallace, who was then 27. In fact,
the elder Pelletier and Wallace were co-accused in a drug trafficking
case and were out on bail the night of the fatal party.
Closed-circuit cameras fixed on the exterior of the Quonset hut showed
the comings and goings over the critical 20 hours on Oct. 15 and 16.
Just before 8 p.m. on Oct. 15, Wallace, his brother, Green and two
others left the hut, driving off in Green’s Chevy Suburban. They
returned almost four hours later and continued inhaling from their gas
balloons.
Green, meanwhile, had called his friend Mandev Johal telling him that
he would need a ride home that night. Johal left Vancouver and picked
up a friend in Burnaby before heading out to the 856 clubhouse to
drive Green home.
Those gathered inside the two-storey Quonset hut left again, about 1
a.m., after sucking in nitrous oxide for another hour.
Green’s Suburban is seen on the surveillance footage, followed by
Johal’s Tahoe, arriving back at the clubhouse just after 2 a.m.
“The males were seen hugging each other and shaking hands as they all
entered the Quonset hut,” said the agreed statement of facts read at
Wallace’s sentencing hearing by Crown prosecutor Dianne Wiedemann.
“Inside the Quonset hut, one of the associates of the 856 Gang, Mr.
Clary, tended the bar. Clary poured drinks and filled balloons with
nitrous gas, which was being inhaled by the other partygoers. Cocaine
was also being used.”
Two men were seen leaving the hut at 2:37 a.m. on Oct. 16. Green,
Jason Wallace, Taylor Wallace, Clary, Johal and his friend remained
inside, where they continued to consume alcohol, cocaine and nitrous
oxide gas.
At 6 a.m., Johal called Cover Girls Escorts and asked for two women to
be sent over, the statement of facts said. Cover Girls advertises its
“elite companions and exotic dancers” online for $300 an hour or
$1,000 for four hours.
The women arrived at about 7:18 a.m., each dropped off by her own
driver.
Half an hour later, Jason Wallace can be seen on video running out of
the building with an inflated balloon of nitrous oxide. At that point,
he would have been partying for almost 17 hours straight.
He bends over and stumbles as if vomiting or coughing, then walks into
the woods.
“Clary runs back and forth from the Quonset hut to where Wallace had
gone. At 7:56 a.m., the two embraced and then both walked back into
the hut,” the document stated.
Johal told authorities that “as the drinking and gas inhalation
continued inside the hut … the vibe started to change.”
“Johal felt as though the younger males, including the accused
Wallace, his brother Taylor and Clary, had something against him,” the
statement of facts said.
Johal said the 856 gangsters were making racial comments to him. He
thought they were trying to impress Green — a 20-year Hells Angel who
was with the Mission City charter when he died.
“As the party progressed, one of the younger males moved one of the
compressed gas cylinders upstairs and the party moved to the second
floor of the Quonset hut.”
Taylor Wallace and Johal’s Burnaby friend crashed on the lower floor
of the clubhouse.
Johal felt that the demeanour of the gangsters was changing as they
were doing more and more nitrous gas while still drinking.
“Johal believed the younger males were loaded and later described
their judgment as ‘totally f–ked OK, they’re loaded, no control. It’s
one thing to drink and be hammered, but there’s no control there
obviously,’” the documents said.
Johal believed the gas made them delusional.
As tensions grew, one of the younger men there said words like ‘I’m
going to get you,’ and then pulled something from the couch.
“As this happened, another one of the younger males swung at Johal.
Johal blocked the punch and in one motion, got up and ran towards the
exit of the Quonset hut.”
As he ran, Johal heard Green say: “Hey, what are you doing?”
Johal thought he was being chased and ran off into a field as he
called 911. It was just after 10 a.m.
The two escorts remained at the party. One of them named Autumn later
said that Green argued with one of the younger guys, who pulled out a
gun.
“Green was challenging the male saying something to the effect of,
`You cannot kill me,’ and then: ‘Shoot me if you can, shoot me if you
can, you’re never gonna do it, shoot me if you can,’ ” the documents
said.
Jason Wallace was so out of it, he later told police, that he didn’t
think the escorts were there when the shooting happened.
“It was Wallace’s perception, admittedly compromised in large part by
intoxication, that the argument was between Clary and Johal, and
others were present but he cannot recall who those others were,” the
documents said. “He believes there was a group that he perceived to be
on the Johal side of the argument and he and Clary on another. Wallace
cannot recall any actual physical altercation but cannot deny one
occurred. He simply was unaware of it.”
Wallace told police that he and Clary were behind the couch where
Green was seated and that Johal and others were on the other end of
the couch from Green.
He thought some of the others were coming at him. He said he saw Clary
put his hand on a gun in his waistband.
“Wallace then grabbed the gun. He worked the slide to cock it and the
gun went off striking Green. Wallace then fired in the direction of
the feet of the others and Green somehow fell into or was struck by
the second shot which was not intended to do more than frighten others
and move them away from advancing.”
“The shots were virtually one, instantly followed by the second.”
The Crown accepted Wallace’s statement that “Green was never an
intended target and the gun was intended to only back away a perceived
threat.”
Wallace had a gun in his vehicle, but had not taken it into the party.
“The gun used in the shooting of Green had been brought in by Clary.
Wallace believes he dropped that gun immediately upon realizing his
friend Green had been shot. Wallace immediately left the scene and was
not involved in any clean up of the scene.”
Green was shot at 10:09 on the morning of Oct. 16.
Immediately afterwards, Wallace is seen on the video footage walking
out of the Quonset hut. He had an inflated balloon. His brother is
following him, also carrying a balloon and a black and blue duffel
bag. Wallace fumbles as he puts on his hoodie while talking to Clary
outside.
The killer then gets into his Pontiac G8 and takes off.
“Neighbours observed Wallace accelerate down the road looking
anxious,” the court documents said.
Wallace’s brother leaves in another vehicle. Johal’s friend also
leaves just before Clary gets into Green’s Suburban, picking up the
Burnaby man on his way out. The escorts get picked up at 10:23 a.m. by
two drivers.
Almost 30 minutes after Johal called 911, police were dispatched. They
picked up Johal in the 7000-block of 240th Street, then headed to the
Quonset hut.
Officers arrived about 11 a.m. They found Green slouched over on the
second-floor couch.
“Green was not breathing and his skin looked pale and was turning
bluish. There was blood all over the couch and blood smeared on
Green’s right temple. Police performed CPR on Green.”
Paramedics got there at 11:16 a.m. and took over the CPR.
But the biker had no pulse and was still not breathing.
He was pronounced dead at 11:30 a.m.
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Early the next morning, neighbours watched with curiosity as a woman
and small children ran from a house Jason Wallace owned in Abbotsford.
They left breakfast sitting on the table.
Wallace had bought the home just six months earlier for $600,000. He
listed his profession as a concrete designer.
The same neighbours saw police descend on the residence later in the
day after Wallace turned himself in.
During his desperate 911 call that morning, Wallace told the operator
that he wanted to drive to the Surrey RCMP detachment. He said he had
a gun with him in the back seat of his Pontiac and thought it was the
weapon he “used to shoot his friend,” the court documents said.
Part of his call to 911 was read into the record at his sentencing
hearing:
Wallace: “I’m gonna turn myself in.”
Operator: “OK.”
Wallace: “My family’s in danger.”
Operator: “OK.”
Wallace: “And I wanna make sure they’re safe.”
Operator: “You’ve turned yourself in to where? Sorry, you’re turning
yourself in to where?”
Wallace: “To the Surrey RCMP.”
Operator: “And where are you right now?”
Wallace: “I’m driving down towards the jail.”
Operator: “OK. Why do you think your family is unsafe?”
Wallace: “Because my — my friend is a Hells Angels and I f–king killed
him for some reason.”
Operator: “And you say — and you said your friend was killed.”
Wallace: “Yeah. Well, I think he’s dead. I don’t know. I was out of my
mind on drugs and shit. I don’t even understand how it happened.”
Operator: “Where were you when this happened?”
Wallace: “We were partying and doing drugs and shit in Langley.”
Operator: “OK. Where in Langley?”
Wallace: “232nd Street and like 72nd or something like that.”
Operator: “When did this — when was that?”
Wallace: “The other night. I don’t know. I’ve been awake for a few
days. I’m — I’m f–ked right up.”
Operator: “And so you said your friend died? How did he die?”
Wallace: “I’m pretty sure I f–king shot him. I don’t even know how.”
Operator: “You think you shot him?”
Wallace: “Yeah, and I don’t even understand how or why — or even why
or nothing, I don’t know.”
Operator: “You don’t know what happened?”
Wallace: “I don’t even know. I was like my mind wasn’t even there. It
was like I was so f–ked up.”
Wallace broke down and cried as the operator urged him to take a deep
breath. He described drinking and doing drugs for days.
While still on the phone, Wallace was surrounded by Surrey RCMP and
arrested. Police found a Glock handgun and a folding knife in his car.
A test on the Glock indicated it was not the gun used to kill Green.
In a news release that day, IHIT congratulated itself on the quick
arrest, saying it spoke to “the tenacity of all agencies involved.”
Clary’s remains were found just after 7 a.m. on Oct. 26, dumped on the
side of Robertson Crescent, near 243rd Street, in Langley. Police
called the indignities done to his body “barbaric.”
It seemed to be a clear message. A high-profile Hells Angel lived up
the road from where Clary was dumped. An 856 leader also owned
property nearby.
Details of Clary’s last days are sparse. Several friends contacted by
Postmedia did not respond to requests for interviews.
At the time of his death, Clary listed his employment at Smithrite
Disposal, the Coquitlam-based recycling and garbage company.
He had a minor criminal record, including convictions for assault and
breach of conditions. He was also the subject of a peace bond after
allegations of uttering threats.
His Facebook page is full of pictures of him wearing bandanas over his
mouth, guns and associates flashing their middle fingers. He says he
went to Johnston Heights Secondary in Surrey.
At Wallace’s sentencing, his lawyer Robert Claus said Wallace feels
terrible about what happened to both Green and Clary.
“The victim, here, of his act, was one of his best friends and the
person whose gun he took and was using at the time, was another friend
who has been killed. His own family, he’s put them in danger,” Claus
said. “He suffers enormous guilt and tremendous remorse.”
Wallace sold his house in Abbotsford last July for $700,000, according
to land title records. The whereabouts of his family are unknown.
None of Green’s relatives, including wife Pam, showed up at Wallace’s
sentencing nor submitted victim impact statements to the court.
Property records show Pam sold the family home in North Burnaby last
June for $1.6 million. Her Facebook page indicates she has moved out
of the country.
Postmedia obtained a copy of Green’s will and probate records. He left
almost everything to his wife — their home, his 2013 Harley, the
$30,000 cash in his bank accounts.
From the estate, she had to pay off a $401,000 mortgage, some
miscellaneous bills and more than $31,000 for Green’s elaborate
funeral, attended by hundreds of bikers from across Canada.
But the prominent Hells Angels’ other family was also acknowledged in
his will, which was signed less than five months before his slaying.
Anything that Green possessed bearing the Hells Angels name or logo
“including any documents, literature, photographs, negatives,
clothing, jewelry, decals, embossed or embroidered items, or any other
items” had to be returned to the notorious gang, the will said.
“These items are the property of the Hells Angels Motorcycle Club and
have been loaned to me for my use and benefit for as long as I remain
a member in good standing with the said club.”
While Wallace has pledged to change his life once he’s out of jail,
the gang he’s been a part of for more than a decade is still around.
“The 856 have been in a bit of chaos since the Bob Green murder and
subsequent murder of Clary. That’s understandable, given the
significance of the murder and who was involved,” said Staff Sgt.
Lindsey Houghton of the Combined Forces Special Enforcement Unit.
The ripple effects of the death of a high-ranking gangster or even a
significant arrest can destabilize any crime group, Houghton said.
“The 856, however, still exists and still has a presence in the drug
trafficking landscape despite the murders.”
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Kim Bolan said at the time there was two gunshots that killed Bob Green. Now the coroners report said there were three bullet wounds and Kim Bolan is saying that was what was reported at the time which is obviously isn't true. I recall at the time of Green's murder ppl posting to Facebook what a great family man he was yet no one from his family showed up at his killers sentencing a mere 6.5 years. I noted what kind of family man with children attends an all night party with drugs, booze and whores? One guy posted he saw Bob Green boot some woman in the head at a party.
This whole affair totally reeks Bob Greens HA "brothers" don't care and the well paid justice ministry officials don't care at a bare minimum. I posted a few things to the Real Scoop blog tonight that didn't propogate for some reason
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