Skeletal remains could belong to missing woman; husband in custody
Posted: Today at 6:48 p.m.
Updated: 3 minutes ago
Stem, N.C. - WRAL News has learned that investigators believe skeletal
remains found Tuesday afternoon belong to missing Stem mother Kelly Morris.
Her husband Scott Morris was taken into custody and was being booked late
Tuesday at the Oxford magistrate's office.
The 28-year-old mother of two was last seen at her home on Sept. 3, 2008.
The following day, the house she shared with her family, including her
husband, Scott Morris, caught fire, which officials ruled was arson. Hours
afterward, authorities found Morris' car about a mile from her home with her
keys, purse and cell phone inside.
Since her disappearance, authorities and volunteers have searched numerous
times to find her.
WRAL News is awaiting confirmation of the official identity of the remains
from the state Medical Examiner's office.
The sheriff would not say Tuesday what the charges against Scott Morris are,
and officials would not allow WRAL News access to the arrest paperwork,
which is a matter of public record.
article continues at link along with photos:
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/6442385/
And no leak to the media about where the body was found. Usually there are
shots of a swarm of police cars and an area cordoned off, if it was an
outdoor scene. Had he rented a storage facility somewhere I wonder?
jc
Woo Hoo!!!
TINY DANCER SPECIAL!!!
No, no storage facility. It was found in a very rural area, saw on the news
today. North, going towards the Virginia border, but near where they were
from, Stem, N.C. The body was located, as the crow flies, just east of
Butner, where the Federal prison is. The whole area up that way is
extremely rural, no large cities or towns.
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/6445876/
Lot's at this link.
It was nice when she sid she hated us and she was leaving.
--
Illinois: where our governors make our license plates.
nru...@att.net
My god, do you never stop lying? Cite please?
td/bella
Will the 3 of you please kf one other. Or else play nice?
jc<---net nanny extraordinaire and queen of the ng but only in my dreams,
only in my rilly rilly BAD dreams I might add---> ;)
I have refrained from responding, but some things have to be pointed out as
lies. Period.
How did I know you were going to say that?
jc--->bowing out now ;-)
I *did* kf her! I only saw her "special" because Nancy replied to it!
And if Nancy jumped off a cliff I suppose you'd sail off right behind her?
jc
> Will the 3 of you please kf one other. Or else play nice?
>
> jc<---net nanny extraordinaire and queen of the ng but only in my dreams,
> only in my rilly rilly BAD dreams I might add---> ;)
You're the group Nanny? I thought I was the group Nanny. Who put you
in charge? Oh... wait... cool beans, means I'm *not* the group
nanny.
Good Job!
<nodding head>
Doing *great* work!
<giggle>
One can only hope................
>
>
Back to the topic at hand, there was a custody hearing today for the child
of Kelly & the killer, who had been living with the killers parents.
Kelly's parents were given temporary custody, through the holidays and into
the new year. In the custody papers it was stated that the alleged killers
father, the child's grandfather, is suspected as having taken part in the
cover-up of the crime.
bella
Complete article at link:
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/6462034/
In the document, Kelly Morris' father and stepmother allege that in the
months prior to their daughter's disappearance that Scott Morris "engaged in
a pattern of emotional abuse directed toward Kelly and both of her
children."
It also cites an affidavit of an State Bureau of Investigation agent
claiming that Scott Morris had "punched holes in the wall during arguments
and once threw a computer out a window."
The Currins also state in their complaint that "the continued separation of
Haley from her sister Taylor is causing Haley substantial emotional
distress" and that Scott Morris had been uncooperative in helping his
daughter cope with the loss of their mother.
I have to apologize, but this made me laugh.
Good Job!
<nodding head>
Doing *great* work!
<giggle>
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The real alleged nanny is Linda. And she's rilly rilly RILLY good at it. But
mostly does grammar only. And low set ears, which Poe has also taken to
noticing lately too. None of that's nannying though is it, not really.
Okay, tag, YOU'RE IT!
jc---->scurrying to hide behind computer
heeee
---
lol! Don't apologise.
(C'mon MS, even you have to admit this is an amusing remark.)
jc
Yes, there were all those phone calls between his father and him on the
fateful night.
jc
Can't imagine what it would be like for any of the children of mothers
murdered by fathers. The guy who was in LE, Drew Peterson - that's him,
right? He had a number of kids by women he allegedly murdered. How must life
be for them, I wonder?
I suppose Nicole Brown's children made it through. I guess they loved their
father (despite some very public fights), still love their father.
jc
* From: "bella" <tinydancer357@xxxxxxxxxxx>
* Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:51:08 -0400
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on Mon, 10 Aug
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Don't know if this has been posted yet:
http://tinyurl.com/Faces-of-Serial-Killers
Can't open the link.
Chocolic
Works OK here.
Try it without the URL shortener;
http://www.life.com/image/first/in-gallery/31802/the-many-faces-of-serial-kill
ers
Just checked, that way works too.
What's sad is how many I recognized without the captions. Note
to self:
Hester Mofet
LOL same here -
Aus Wendy
As an aside, someone who used to post here, you probably won't remember them
because they became disillusioned a long time ago and never made much of a
mark *here*, is attempting to get a crime group moving, in another venue.
If any one is interested, email me at the addy I use here, or my other one
if you have it, and I'll tell you more.
td/bella
No lies. See response.
How humane of you.
Ahhhh, but one can*not* give it away. It can only be "taken upon
oneself". So... Enjoy the nannying. mwahahaha
Was it Linda who noticed the low set ears? I remember reading Poe
talking about it, and thought she was the one who came up with it.
Smokie Darling (Annie)
Nancy, she didn't say she hated anyone (only that someone else became
disillusioned), she never said she was leaving, only that there was
another group.
I know this argument has been going for a very long time, and I know
there are some "between the lines" things that many of us wouldn't
pick up on.
I'm still trying to figure out what a TD "special" is. Is it a dead
woman, with her husband/boyfriend (who was the original suspect)
arrested? Is it female victims? Or is it a post, made by TD about a
female victim? I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm seriously
asking.
Smokie Darling (Annie)
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I thought it was Linda who first brought ears to posting attention long time
ago, and since too. Could be wrong. Maybe she stole the observation from
Poe. Whoever it was, I can't look at Daniel Craig without seeing mostly
ears. His kind lop over at the top, making them seem low set ya ask me.
jc
My ears were ringing so I decided to read here, and don'tcha know, you
mentioned my ear comments. Weird!
Anyway, supposedly ears are low set if the top of them is below the
eyes, or something like that. Low-set ears can often mean trouble.
Yes, it was Linda who first brought up strange ears.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.true-crime/msg/da28062d858029ac?hl=en
I JoJoz replied ;)
Kris
Nooo nobody stole it, it's a symptom of a certain type of birth defect
or mental retardation. You see it a lot in some of these deviants.
No disrespect to Linda, but nobody on a.t-c came up with it - it has
been mentioned for a long time, going back to at least the 1990s,
probably before.
That thread was a blast from the past. You were JoJoz?!
jc
I think we were discussing who brought it up in atc though. Alot of
things are "out there", that we've all heard, and presume that others
know, but until it's actually posted... I'd never heard the ear
thing, until I read something you posted a couple of years ago (when I
first began reading here, but not posting). I never thought it was
made up by someone here.
..but, but, but... we were talking nice about you <smile>.
I remember reading a post you'd made about that, and just presumed
that you had started the trend of using it here. Not that it really
matters <grin>. Glad to see you back.
I thought it came up around the time little (10yo?) Eric Smith murdered the
4yo boy in the woods, which was in the late 90s I think. The link Kris
posted is a thread that talks about that older case. And I thought it was
indeed Linda who brought it up way back then (time of that crime),
regardless of the factual issue about ears being a sign of whatever. No?
jc
jc
I was just joking actually, about ringing ears, and ears in general. If
we were talking about itchy noses I'd say something goofy about kissing
a fool. I think what I bring to the table are retarded jokes no one
thinks are funny :-P If I could only cash in on being lame, I'd be rich!
Probably. I misunderstood the question to be where the original notion
came from. I take it all back.
oh but I did think it was funny (hence the smile in the brackets). My
mom always said that if your ears ring, someone is saying/thinking
something nasty/mean about you, so I said we were being nice. I
remember the one about noses too. Silly jokes are fun, and I can use
them on my granddaughter, which is always cool.
:-P If I could only cash in on being lame, I'd be rich!
you and me both, Poe, you and me both.
Nope. I've always been me. I thought you wre JoJoz, maybe.
Kris
We were talking about "who first brought ears to posting attention"
here, which is what I pointed out. No one was saying that anyone
here was the first person in the universe to mention it.
Kris
> I'm still trying to figure out what a TD "special" is.
Man accused of something horrible, woman or child victim.
I must say I'm enjoying this thread, and I appreciate all the comments that
mention me!
Yes, I noticed low-set ears sometime back, but mainly because a Navy doctor
at Balboa Hospital "accused" my 1 1/2 month-old lovely, sweet, beautiful,
and perfectly normal son [in I.Q. and in every other way] of having "low-set
ears." I had never heard any reference to low-set ears, but it made MY ears
"perk up" and I asked, "Are you checking him for brain damage???" The Dr.
said, "We're checking him for everything." I had him at Balboa Hospital
because he had projectile vomiting, and he was losing weight, even after
having gained a little bit from his birth-rate. ("Failure to thrive.") As
it turned out, he had Pyloric Stenosis, and the surgery fixed him right up!
However, once that doctor mentioned "low-set ears", I couldn't help but
check the ears of everybody I saw for awhile. My son's ears are not
low-set; but since I've been "attuned" to that, I do tend to notice ears
"more than the average bear", I imagine.
Just yesterday or the day before, someone mentioned low-set ears on a
teenaged girl accused of a horrific crime. In response (or maybe it was in
the same post), someone mentioned the red-headed boy who killed another
child several years ago, and he's still in prison. (I've forgotten his
name, but you all know the one I mean.) Anyway, I didn't think the girl had
particularly low-set ears. However, sometime back, I mentioned what I saw
as a tendency of those on the "Ten Most Wanted" lists to have low-set ears;
and another poster suggested that it was because people having a mug-shot
taken usually look a bit upward. I hadn't thought of that; but once I paid
attention, I think that's a very good possibility: the person looks upward,
and that causes his ears to appear "low-set." Of course, that wasn't the
case with the red-headed boy. The tops of his ears turned downward, and
they might have been low-set, as well.
Linda
My brother had pyloric stenosis, too -- and back in 1951, stomach
surgery on a six-week-old was horrific. I guess now, they fix it
with a scope.
I've looked, but can't find a picture of Sam Manzie (who killed the
11-year-old boy Eddie Werner)....or maybe it was Kip Kinkel (except
his ears don't look whacked).
Kris
No, the one I was thinking of was Eric Smith. Old picture and article here:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/12/10/48hours/main660314.shtml It's
long, but I found it quite interesting.
Linda
Yesiree brought it up on atc back in 1997 in a discussion of "signs you are
a serial killer" and it's been discussed and noticed by many atc'ers on and
off over the years since then.
Eric Smith was a prime example of the low ears. Cripes he was a strange
looking kid. I often notice strange foreheads on serious criminals before
the ears.
chocolic
Oh, yeah. That's the face I remember...and forget, forget, forget the
name. I'm usually such a detail-magnet, but I can't absorb "Eric
Smith".
We go through this every time, don't we? ;)
Eric Smith. Robie. I edited Smith's wikipedia page to include "low-set
ears".
Mebbe we can remember that in the future.
Kris
>
You're right! I never can remember his name, either; but I can almost
always "see" his face. I had to Google it! I think I typed in something
like, "Red-headed child murderer + low-set ears."
Linda
So anyway, Eric Smith is the person I said I thought Alyssa Bustamante
resembled. No idea if anyone agrees.
I do agree. She has that same lost cool look in her eyes.
Chocolic
I have never hoped for harm to come to you.
--
Illinois: where our governors make our license plates.
nru...@att.net
In other words, most of the more horrific crimes?
<snark>
Smokie Darling (Annie)
AAMOF, no. 85% of violent crime victims are adult males.
Tiny picks a small minority of crimes and seeks out as many
examples as she can, in a deliberate effort to make them seem
more common.
Oh yes, and women do manage to commit a few, too. ;-)
Did you really think I was being serious?
No, I thought you were offering me an opportunity. ;-)
Ahhh, that explains it. Thanks :D
Well Tiny is just not a very nice person, eh?
I've known her true colors for some time now.
A few of us have.
Chocolic
One of the most shallow persons I've come across.
Nancy
> > A few of us have.
> One of the most shallow persons I've come across.
[note: attributions all messed up. Sorry]
I have to say, kind of in Tiny's defense: Most of us treu crime
watchers are a bit shallow, vindictive, voyaristic anyhow. Maybe
summarized up by "gossipy" (and not in the good sense of the word.)
Mick
That does not summarize Tiny at all.
Mick
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I think it's a bit 'off', our fascination with tc, with the specifics of
particular crimes and the speculations, and frequent discusson of such very
gory details. I don't know of anywhere else where just about any remark or
observation or theory about specific crimes or criminal acts (etc) is
welcome. Yes, it does have that 'gossipy' thing going on, but I disagree
about 'not in the good sense' - I think it IS good. Shallow? Whu - yeahhh.
So what? Then again, sometimes it spreads out into deep waters too.
jc
That made me laugh aloud.
Mick
I am totally not shallow. For one thing I am good looking and really
popular. My hair is the perfect shade of blonde, and my clothes are
really cool. And I am not voyeuristic, either - I don't have to seek out
opportunities, as I have my telescope trained on the window of that hot
couple next door. And I never gossip to anyone who doesn't express the
correct level of interest to begin with.
> > I have to say, kind of in Tiny's defense: Most of us treu crime
> > watchers are a bit shallow, vindictive, voyaristic anyhow. Maybe
> > summarized up by "gossipy" (and not in the good sense of the word.)
>
> > Mick
>
> I am totally not shallow. For one thing I am good looking and really
> popular. My hair is the perfect shade of blonde, and my clothes are
> really cool. And I am not voyeuristic, either - I don't have to seek out
> opportunities, as I have my telescope trained on the window of that hot
> couple next door. And I never gossip to anyone who doesn't express the
> correct level of interest to begin with.-
Madam Poe,
Bravo!
You are clearly too sexy for your car.
Mick
Mick
---
:DDD
Link please?
IIRC, Wesley Dodd was a child molestor/killer in Washington state.
Yes, here is the link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westley_Allan_Dodd
>
>
Thx. Never heard of him before. The pic at link didn't look like low-set
ears IMHO.
jc
I put the "low ears" theory in the same category as phrenology.
Maybe you do, but a quick google search lists many sites that include low
set ears as symptomatic of a number of maladies.
jc
Yes, I've seen the low set years as symptomatic of other physical
maladies. But it certainly can't be a predictor of criminal behavior.
Have studies been done on noncriminals who also have low-set ears?
Many, many murderers do not have low-set ears. Richard Speck, Ted
Bundy, Angelo Buono and Kenneth Bianchi, just off the top of my head.
There are probably a lot more.
>Yes, I've seen the low set years as symptomatic of other physical
>maladies. But it certainly can't be a predictor of criminal behavior.
>Have studies been done on noncriminals who also have low-set ears?
>Many, many murderers do not have low-set ears. Richard Speck, Ted
>Bundy, Angelo Buono and Kenneth Bianchi, just off the top of my head.
>There are probably a lot more.
Is it associated with any of the standard impulse disorder syndromes,
like fetal alcohol syndrome?
--
Tomorrow is today already.
Greg Goss, 1989-01-27
It isn't limited to physical abnormalities. I don't believe anyone here
concluded that low set ears were symptomatic of murderers, but of a subclass
of same perhaps.
jc
IIRC, Eric Smith's mother was on a strong medication during her pregnancy
and it was suggested that the low set ears was a suspected result of the
meds.
Okay. It just seemed to me a strange thing to notice. The
discussions above didn't mention, say, fetal alcohol syndrome
or other causes of low set ears. Just low set ears. But I
agree, it's just a subclass of the set of murderers, just as
any other physical characteristics like blue eyes would be
categorized as a subset of the class of murderers.
I don't know much about it, generally, other than a quick google search that
mentioned various alternative diagnoses which include not only low set ears,
but other ear conditions in lists of symptoms. It has been interesting to me
to read posters here who observe the phenomenon and speculate about whether
it might be indicative of one or more diseases or syndromes. Congenital
conditions especially interest me. My inferrence from my fellow posters
(sister posters? ;)) is that there may possibly be a predisposition in some
tiny subset of these folks toward behavioural problems? At the same time,
I'm inclined to think nuture may have more to do with it - or - is it maybe
a combination, with contributions from somewhere along one's double helix??
Now I've already said I think Daniel Craig (007) has funny ears. I wouldn't
include him in that tiny subset for example. Though perhaps he is poorly
behaved for all I know. :D
jc
> Now I've already said I think Daniel Craig (007) has funny ears. I wouldn't
> include him in that tiny subset for example.
It's different if you get your license?
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Can't believe it took me a sec to get that! hahaha!
jc
What about the middle name of "Wayne". Do you guys think growing up with
that middle name causes you to want to murder people, or is that a subclass
of the set of murderers, or is it because of some flaw in the genes of the
parents that have a propensity to like that name Wayne and give it to their
son and then beat the crap out of him because of it?
Chocolic <grin>
Not fellatrix? >;-)
It IS? Oh dear. What would the plural be I wonder? No no, that is one word I
never see myself using. ('Sister' was an allusion to another thread.)
jc