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guy

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Sep 14, 2006, 1:35:29 AM9/14/06
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An intelligent person does not hate anyone. He does
hate certain behaviors He/she is entitled to act to
prevent actions that will harm he/her.

We always accept diabetic advice based on
sound principles. We are entitled to reject
claims that are obviously false or based
on speculation.

Hate is a self dreamed up thing and is the
individuals own problem.

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good thing i do what i like ,
and not what you tell me we do

"guy" <gu...@consolidated.neet> wrote in message
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Ma¢k

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[Default] On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 05:35:29 GMT, gu...@consolidated.neet
(guy) Maniacally Screamed the following like a drunken
gu...@consolidated.neet (guy) into the madness of usenet:

>Hate is a self dreamed up thing and is the
>individuals own problem.


you would never post something so uninformed if you ever faced true
hate in another's eyes.

--
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President, or that we are to stand by the President
right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile,
but is morally treasonable to the American public."
...Theodore Roosevelt

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half as well as I should like;
and I like less than half of you
half as well as you deserve."
....Bilbo Baggins


Jesus never hated anyone.


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offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it.
If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to
me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate...
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W.M.McKee

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Sep 14, 2006, 8:08:50 PM9/14/06
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On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 20:01:14 -0400, Ma¢k
<stopt...@shootspammers.com> wrote:

>>Hate is a self dreamed up thing and is the
>>individuals own problem.
>
>
>you would never post something so uninformed if you ever faced true
>hate in another's eyes.

I know what you mean, Mack, and you know what you mean... I have had
people try to kill me.... To say the least, it gets the adrenalin up!

All I suggest is that Guy is really OK... he is just coming from a
different place in life, that's all. It may be that he was thinking of
hate in a different context....

How's it going?

Will, T2

W.M.McKee

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Sep 14, 2006, 8:13:40 PM9/14/06
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On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 20:08:50 -0400, W.M.McKee <wmm...@cox.net> wrote:

>I know what you mean, Mack, and you know what you mean... I have had
>people try to kill me.... To say the least, it gets the adrenalin up!

That may be why I, myself, sometimes overreact even on here...

Will, T2

guy

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Sep 14, 2006, 8:57:53 PM9/14/06
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Mack, when you are good,you are very good.
Then you go into a sharp mode and make smart
remarks without thinking. I do remember your problems and
how considerate others were to you.

Mack, I prefer to address issues without any
personal finger pointing. There is no need to
slam a person when it should be avoided.

So my posts are vague. They are
meant to be that.
The point is convey an idea without
hitting on some poor soul.

I hope you are OK. You were that
for an extended time.

Dr Chung is a good example. All know of his behavior but persist in
reading him and playing games. Adults do not do that.

I am a bit peeved at anyone that uses these groups for a show or
entertainment.

Jokes, teasing but no hard slams are the proper mode. Warning about
shills, special interest posters Spammers deserve a
good hit.

A person sent me an e-mail saying they were afraid to post.
They tried and was called stupid.
Guy

On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 20:01:14 -0400, Ma¢k
<stopt...@shootspammers.com> wrote:

>[Default] On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 05:35:29 GMT, gu...@consolidated.neet
>(guy) Maniacally Screamed the following like a drunken
>gu...@consolidated.neet (guy) into the madness of usenet:
>
>>Hate is a self dreamed up thing and is the
>>individuals own problem.
>
>
>you would never post something so uninformed if you ever faced true
>hate in another's eyes.

GrandpaChuck

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Sep 14, 2006, 10:09:04 PM9/14/06
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 00:57:53 GMT, gu...@consolidated.neet (guy) wrote:


>Dr Chung is a good example. All know of his behavior but persist in
>reading him and playing games. Adults do not do that.

I do in order to show the fallacies of his rantings.
I guess in Guy's eyes I am not an adult. If that be true, I pray I
never become one either.
--

Grandpa Chuck
-ô¿ô-
~
Americans killed in Iraq as of September 14, 2006 is 2,675. United Kingdom = 118 Other = 115.
Over 100 Iraqi civilians are killed every day. Most by so-called insurgents.
More than 19,910 Americans wounded.
09/13/2006 it’s 1233 days since Bush declared, "Mission Accomplished in Iraq."
More Americans have died in Iraq and Afghanistan then died in the attacks on 9/11. For what?

Alan S

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Sep 14, 2006, 11:20:44 PM9/14/06
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 02:09:04 GMT, GrandpaChuck
<Grandp...@B4ME.org> wrote:

>>Dr Chung is a good example. All know of his behavior but persist in
>>reading him and playing games. Adults do not do that.
>
>I do in order to show the fallacies of his rantings.
>I guess in Guy's eyes I am not an adult. If that be true, I pray I
>never become one either.

You're serious? "I do in order to show the fallacies of his
rantings."

The only thing it shows is a lack of common sense and a need
to argue repetitiously about irrelevant religious beliefs on
a diabetes forum.

Nothing wrong with irrelevancies here as a seasoning to
debate - it's a matter of how long they continue and the
overwhelming tedium of the continuing religious threads.

Jokes die on repetition and become hohum. So does
proselytization.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1000mg, ezetrol 10mg
--
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

GrandpaChuck

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Sep 15, 2006, 12:23:00 AM9/15/06
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What is surprising is how many people continue to read them even
though they claim to be disgusted.

Kurt

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Sep 15, 2006, 1:50:09 AM9/15/06
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GrandpaChuck wrote:
> What is surprising is how many people continue to read them even
> though they claim to be disgusted.

Ain't that the truth. I don't read Mr. Chung, but that's my personal
choice. However, I don't critcize anyone for reading or responding to
him. Thankfully this is an unmoderated group and people are free to
post and read what they want. What I find much more offensive than any
ideology, diet, religion, or political post in here are the few who try
to bully people into what they should or shouldn't eat and who they
should or shouldn't respond to. Nice to see you have chosen to do just
as you please. Now I command you to continue doing that! :)

Best,
Kurt

GrandpaChuck

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Sep 15, 2006, 2:06:24 AM9/15/06
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On 14 Sep 2006 22:50:09 -0700, "Kurt" <kurtwhee...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Yes, my brother. Thank you for your blessings.

BJ in Texas

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Sep 15, 2006, 8:08:36 AM9/15/06
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Alan S <loralweig...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
|| On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 02:09:04 GMT, GrandpaChuck
|| <Grandp...@B4ME.org> wrote:
||
|||| Dr Chung is a good example. All know of his behavior but
|||| persist in reading him and playing games. Adults do not do
|||| that.
|||
||| I do in order to show the fallacies of his rantings.
||| I guess in Guy's eyes I am not an adult. If that be true, I
||| pray I never become one either.
||
|| You're serious? "I do in order to show the fallacies of his
|| rantings."
||
|| The only thing it shows is a lack of common sense and a need
|| to argue repetitiously about irrelevant religious beliefs on
|| a diabetes forum.
||
|| Nothing wrong with irrelevancies here as a seasoning to
|| debate - it's a matter of how long they continue and the
|| overwhelming tedium of the continuing religious threads.
||
|| Jokes die on repetition and become hohum. So does
|| proselytization.
||

Got to go with you on that one Alan. I blocked Chung and
his crossposting minions a while back. All I ask of any
regular in this group is if you respond to Chung, be sure to
crosspost so my filters will block it.

BJ
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Nicky

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Sep 15, 2006, 7:52:34 AM9/15/06
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"GrandpaChuck" <Grandp...@B4ME.org> wrote in message
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> What is surprising is how many people continue to read them even
> though they claim to be disgusted.

Only time I see them is when someone I regularly read replies to them - like
you, Chuck - hint...

Nicky.

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No Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine
95/72/72Kg


Wes Groleau

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Sep 16, 2006, 12:09:14 AM9/16/06
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GrandpaChuck wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 00:57:53 GMT, gu...@consolidated.neet (guy) wrote:

>> Dr Chung is a good example. All know of his behavior but persist in
>> reading him and playing games. Adults do not do that.
>
> I do in order to show the fallacies of his rantings.

Doesn't work, does it?

--
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Alive and Well
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Wes Groleau

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Sep 16, 2006, 12:11:16 AM9/16/06
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BJ in Texas wrote:
> Got to go with you on that one Alan. I blocked Chung and
> his crossposting minions a while back. All I ask of any
> regular in this group is if you respond to Chung, be sure to
> crosspost so my filters will block it.

But please crosspost to someplace other than ASD

--
Wes Groleau
http://groleau.freeshell.org/teaching/

Wes Groleau

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Sep 16, 2006, 12:12:39 AM9/16/06
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Wes Groleau wrote:

> GrandpaChuck wrote:
>> I do in order to show the fallacies of his rantings.
>
> Doesn't work, does it?

If you want different results, do something different.

--
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GrandpaChuck

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Sep 16, 2006, 12:38:09 AM9/16/06
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On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 04:09:14 GMT, Wes Groleau
<grolea...@freeshell.org> wrote:

>
>GrandpaChuck wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 00:57:53 GMT, gu...@consolidated.neet (guy) wrote:
>
>>> Dr Chung is a good example. All know of his behavior but persist in
>>> reading him and playing games. Adults do not do that.
>>
>> I do in order to show the fallacies of his rantings.
>
>Doesn't work, does it?

LOL
Not to him.
I am sure he is purposely being obtuse.

--

Grandpa Chuck
-ô¿ô-
~

Americans killed in Iraq as of September 15, 2006 is 2,680. United Kingdom = 118 Other = 115.

Over 100 Iraqi civilians are killed every day. Most by so-called insurgents.
More than 19,910 Americans wounded.

09/15/2006 it’s 1236 days since Bush declared, "Mission Accomplished in Iraq."


Ma¢k

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Sep 16, 2006, 6:32:59 AM9/16/06
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[Default] On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 20:08:50 -0400, W.M.McKee
<wmm...@cox.net> Maniacally Screamed the following like a drunken
W.M.McKee <wmm...@cox.net> into the madness of usenet:


Going ok. Still can't get straight answers. Going to call some
people who's names I got in an email to get some direction.

--
Mâck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper

Ma¢k

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Sep 16, 2006, 6:39:04 AM9/16/06
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[Default] On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 02:09:04 GMT, GrandpaChuck
<Grandp...@B4ME.org> Maniacally Screamed the following like a
drunken GrandpaChuck <Grandp...@B4ME.org> into the madness of
usenet:

>On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 00:57:53 GMT, gu...@consolidated.neet (guy) wrote:


>
>
>>Dr Chung is a good example. All know of his behavior but persist in
>>reading him and playing games. Adults do not do that.
>
>I do in order to show the fallacies of his rantings.
>I guess in Guy's eyes I am not an adult. If that be true, I pray I
>never become one either.


It doesn't work with the c troll though. a response of any kind is
what he likes. feeds into hi schizophrenia.

Sometimes when he shows his stupidity like calling type 1s frail, or
when misleading uninformed newcomers or frightened parents, something
should be said but not always to the c troll.

--
Mâck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper

Ma¢k

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Sep 16, 2006, 6:40:31 AM9/16/06
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[Default] On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 04:23:00 GMT, GrandpaChuck
<Grandp...@B4ME.org> Maniacally Screamed the following like a
drunken GrandpaChuck <Grandp...@B4ME.org> into the madness of
usenet:

>>Jokes die on repetition and become hohum. So does


>>proselytization.
>>
>>Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
>>d&e, metformin 1000mg, ezetrol 10mg
>
>What is surprising is how many people continue to read them even
>though they claim to be disgusted.

humans like to be grossed out.

GrandpaChuck

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Sep 16, 2006, 12:55:51 PM9/16/06
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On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 06:40:31 -0400, Ma¢k
<stopt...@shootspammers.com> wrote:

>[Default] On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 04:23:00 GMT, GrandpaChuck
><Grandp...@B4ME.org> Maniacally Screamed the following like a
>drunken GrandpaChuck <Grandp...@B4ME.org> into the madness of
>usenet:
>
>>>Jokes die on repetition and become hohum. So does
>>>proselytization.
>>>
>>>Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
>>>d&e, metformin 1000mg, ezetrol 10mg
>>
>>What is surprising is how many people continue to read them even
>>though they claim to be disgusted.
>
>humans like to be grossed out.

Yep. It's just one more way of saying, "I'm sure glad that isn't me."

--

Grandpa Chuck
-ô¿ô-
~

Americans killed in Iraq as of September 15, 2006 is 2,682. United Kingdom = 118 Other = 115.

Over 100 Iraqi civilians are killed every day. Most by so-called insurgents.
More than 19,910 Americans wounded.

09/16/2006 it’s 1237 days since Bush declared, "Mission Accomplished in Iraq."


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Sep 16, 2006, 1:29:39 PM9/16/06
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GrandpaChuck wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 03:20:44 GMT, Alan S
> <loralweig...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 02:09:04 GMT, GrandpaChuck
> ><Grandp...@B4ME.org> wrote:
> >
> >>>Dr Chung is a good example. All know of his behavior but persist in
> >>>reading him and playing games. Adults do not do that.
> >>
> >>I do in order to show the fallacies of his rantings.
> >>I guess in Guy's eyes I am not an adult. If that be true, I pray I
> >>never become one either.
> >
> >You're serious? "I do in order to show the fallacies of his
> >rantings."
> >
> >The only thing it shows is a lack of common sense and a need
> >to argue repetitiously about irrelevant religious beliefs on
> >a diabetes forum.
> >
> >Nothing wrong with irrelevancies here as a seasoning to
> >debate - it's a matter of how long they continue and the
> >overwhelming tedium of the continuing religious threads.
> >
> >Jokes die on repetition and become hohum. So does
> >proselytization.
> >
> >Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
> >d&e, metformin 1000mg, ezetrol 10mg
>
> What is surprising is how many people continue to read them even
> though they claim to be disgusted.

Proof of the power of prayer in Christ Jesus' name.

May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
neighbor Chuck whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d3b7b57d0fbf89ed?

ergolaf

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Sep 16, 2006, 2:06:53 PM9/16/06
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Hi, I just joined this group thinking this would be a stimulating
environment to discuss cardiovascular disease since I work with stroke
patient. However I only find religious discussions. Not to denigrate
any religious beliefs, but ...what has it got to do with cardiovascular
disease?

ergolaf

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Sep 16, 2006, 2:19:44 PM9/16/06
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ergolaf wrote:
> Hi, I just joined this group thinking this would be a stimulating
> environment to discuss cardiovascular disease since I work with stroke
> patient. However I only find religious discussions. Not to denigrate
> any religious beliefs, but ...what has it got to do with cardiovascular
> disease?

Hate destroys the heart.

Despair breaks the heart.

People do die from broken hearts ("Broken Heart Syndrome").

LORD Jesus Christ is the great Cardiologist for it is written that HE
healed someone with heart failure (dropsy).

May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor whom I love

sechumlib

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Sep 16, 2006, 4:02:29 PM9/16/06
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On 2006-09-16 14:06:53 -0400, "ergolaf" <erg...@bigfoot.com> said:

> Hi, I just joined this group thinking this would be a stimulating
> environment to discuss cardiovascular disease since I work with stroke
> patient. However I only find religious discussions. Not to denigrate
> any religious beliefs, but ...what has it got to do with cardiovascular
> disease?

You've gotten caught in Asshole Chung's practice of posting to many
newsgroups all at once. (I do the same, so I won't throw stones at
you.)

Anyway, the one I'm on is alt.support.diabetes which has NOTHING to do
with cardiovascular disease. And various others are religious so
Chung's postings might be considered OK. (I'm not sure what he
considers his relationship to alt.usenet.kooks to be.)

Dave

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Sep 16, 2006, 6:45:13 PM9/16/06
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gu...@consolidated.neet (guy) wrote;


>An intelligent person does not hate anyone. He
> does hate certain behaviors   He/she is entitled to
> act to prevent actions that will harm he/her.

>We always accept diabetic advice based on sound
> principles. We are entitled to reject

>claims that are obviously false or based on
> speculation.

>Hate is a self dreamed up thing and is the
individuals own problem.

Pardon my language but that's bullshit. There is real evil in this world
and there are people who are nothing but pure evil. Terrorist,
murderers, child molesters, rapist. Those people don't do what they do
by mistake. It's a choice not an accident. All of them are pure evil and
they deserve nothing but hate. They may appear at times to be innocent,
even harmless, but that's merely a facade to hide their true nature. A
ruse to fool the naive.

"Self dreamed up? Individuals own problem? Liberal bullshit is what that
is.

I fail to see how hate and diabetic advise are in any way related.

guy

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Sep 16, 2006, 7:42:02 PM9/16/06
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Yes, the Chinese that killed a lot of my friends in Korea.

Now they are great businessmen selling me computers.

There is something wrong

A subhuman trait is to hate and kill. Then get killed..

I prefer a civilized worlds even with you kind is impossible.

So we chose to kill the haters. Ny friend, I worked on Atimic
weapon tests. The beauty of these weapons is that there is no
winners. We are on a track to get there.

Bull shit says something about your personality .

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Sep 16, 2006, 8:06:36 PM9/16/06
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Ma¢k wrote:
> [Default] On 16 Sep 2006 11:06:53 -0700, "ergolaf"

> <erg...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
> >Hi, I just joined this group thinking this would be a stimulating
> >environment to discuss cardiovascular disease since I work with stroke
> >patient. However I only find religious discussions. Not to denigrate
> >any religious beliefs, but ...what has it got to do with cardiovascular
> >disease?
>
> nothing but then again why did you continue cross posting in unrelated
> groups?

Actually, hatred in the heart worsens the human condition especially
when there is disease like diabetes.

Indeed, the OP of this thread originates in ASD, which has been added
back.

> chung is a known usenet troll and kook.

Name-calling simply shows that you remain lost.

> do a google search on chung ocala florida and you'll see why.

Did that and don't.

May GOD continue to heal your heart by healing your diabetes, dear
neighbor Mack whom I love unconditionally.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Sep 16, 2006, 8:21:02 PM9/16/06
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It is clear that you see that the world needs a Savior.

There is only ONE.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life ... " -- LORD Jesus Christ

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS love, dear neighbor Guy

Robert Miles

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Sep 16, 2006, 9:37:36 PM9/16/06
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"sechumlib" <sech...@liberal.net> wrote in message
news:2006091616023116807-sechumlib@liberalnet...
It must be where all his posts are considered on topic.


Alan S

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Sep 16, 2006, 10:26:13 PM9/16/06
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On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 20:02:29 GMT, sechumlib
<sech...@liberal.net> wrote:

>Anyway, the one I'm on is alt.support.diabetes which has NOTHING to do
>with cardiovascular disease.

You've apparently been misinformed about the possible
complications of diabetes.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1000mg, ezetrol 10mg

GrandpaChuck

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Sep 16, 2006, 11:00:56 PM9/16/06
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On 16 Sep 2006 17:06:36 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:

>Ma˘k wrote:
>> [Default] On 16 Sep 2006 11:06:53 -0700, "ergolaf"
>> <erg...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Hi, I just joined this group thinking this would be a stimulating
>> >environment to discuss cardiovascular disease since I work with stroke
>> >patient. However I only find religious discussions. Not to denigrate
>> >any religious beliefs, but ...what has it got to do with cardiovascular
>> >disease?
>>
>> nothing but then again why did you continue cross posting in unrelated
>> groups?
>
>Actually, hatred in the heart worsens the human condition especially
>when there is disease like diabetes.
>
>Indeed, the OP of this thread originates in ASD, which has been added
>back.
>
>> chung is a known usenet troll and kook.
>
>Name-calling simply shows that you remain lost.

No. It shows that Mack knows a troll when he sees one.

>
>> do a google search on chung ocala florida and you'll see why.
>
>Did that and don't.
>

--

Grandpa Chuck
-ôżô-
~
Americans killed in Iraq as of September 15, 2006 is 2,682. United Kingdom = 118 Other = 115.

Over 100 Iraqi civilians are killed every day. Most by so-called insurgents.
More than 19,910 Americans wounded.

09/16/2006 it’s 1237 days since Bush declared, "Mission Accomplished in Iraq."


GrandpaChuck

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Sep 16, 2006, 11:01:30 PM9/16/06
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On 16 Sep 2006 17:21:02 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:

Learn to snip asshole!
--

Grandpa Chuck
-ô¿ô-

guy

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Sep 16, 2006, 11:32:11 PM9/16/06
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A few have tried to reach Dr Chung. Unfortunately
it seem to be impossible. Like a lot of folks he
has been brain washed. I do not know
the basic problem but is beyond my ability to
reach him.

His posting mode is not good for diabetes and
diabetes is my gross problem. He has no respect for
my right to learn about diabetes. He actually
turns me off on his brand of religion.

For my own good I do need to avoid him. I
begged him to share and not abuse us.

We have a lot of people with antisocial
traits. I feel for them but it is beyond
my ability to help them.

I will try to avoid All that are not
interested in diabetes. I hope
they do not open my posts.

Guy

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Sep 16, 2006, 11:41:02 PM9/16/06
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GrandpaChuck wrote:

> Andrew wrote:
> >Ma¢k wrote:
> >> [Default] On 16 Sep 2006 11:06:53 -0700, "ergolaf"
> >> <erg...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Hi, I just joined this group thinking this would be a stimulating
> >> >environment to discuss cardiovascular disease since I work with stroke
> >> >patient. However I only find religious discussions. Not to denigrate
> >> >any religious beliefs, but ...what has it got to do with cardiovascular
> >> >disease?
> >>
> >> nothing but then again why did you continue cross posting in unrelated
> >> groups?
> >
> >Actually, hatred in the heart worsens the human condition especially
> >when there is disease like diabetes.
> >
> >Indeed, the OP of this thread originates in ASD, which has been added
> >back.
> >
> >> chung is a known usenet troll and kook.
> >
> >Name-calling simply shows that you remain lost.
>
> No. It shows that Mack knows a troll when he sees one.

Your choice to bear false witness is forgiven as far as I am concerned.

May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor Chuck whom I

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Alan S wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 20:02:29 GMT, sechumlib
> <sech...@liberal.net> wrote:
>
> >Anyway, the one I'm on is alt.support.diabetes which has NOTHING to do
> >with cardiovascular disease.
>
> You've apparently been misinformed about the possible
> complications of diabetes.

So it seems.

May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear

neighbor Alan whom I love unconditionally.

The God of Odd Statements

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He's preaching/witnessing to us(tinu).

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Neighbor wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 20:02:29 +0000, sechumlib did most oddly state:
> > On 2006-09-16 14:06:53 -0400, "ergolaf" said:
> >
> >> Hi, I just joined this group thinking this would be a stimulating
> >> environment to discuss cardiovascular disease since I work with stroke
> >> patient. However I only find religious discussions. Not to denigrate
> >> any religious beliefs, but ...what has it got to do with cardiovascular
> >> disease?
> >
> > You've gotten caught in Asshole Chung's practice of posting to many
> > newsgroups all at once. (I do the same, so I won't throw stones at you.)
> >
> > Anyway, the one I'm on is alt.support.diabetes which has NOTHING to do
> > with cardiovascular disease. And various others are religious so Chung's
> > postings might be considered OK. (I'm not sure what he considers his
> > relationship to alt.usenet.kooks to be.)
>
> He's preaching/witnessing to us(tinu).

No. Simply crossposting to AUK per the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

It remains my choice to receive HIS guidance in everything I say, do,
and write.

May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor whom I love

The Demon Prince of Absurdity

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Sep 17, 2006, 8:03:00 AM9/17/06
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 04:40:12 -0700, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD did the
cha-cha, and screamed:

> Neighbor wrote:
>> On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 20:02:29 +0000, sechumlib did most oddly state:
>> > On 2006-09-16 14:06:53 -0400, "ergolaf" said:
>> >
>> >> Hi, I just joined this group thinking this would be a stimulating
>> >> environment to discuss cardiovascular disease since I work with
>> >> stroke patient. However I only find religious discussions. Not to
>> >> denigrate any religious beliefs, but ...what has it got to do with
>> >> cardiovascular disease?
>> >
>> > You've gotten caught in Asshole Chung's practice of posting to many
>> > newsgroups all at once. (I do the same, so I won't throw stones at
>> > you.)
>> >
>> > Anyway, the one I'm on is alt.support.diabetes which has NOTHING to do
>> > with cardiovascular disease. And various others are religious so
>> > Chung's postings might be considered OK. (I'm not sure what he
>> > considers his relationship to alt.usenet.kooks to be.)
>>
>> He's preaching/witnessing to us(tinu).
>
> No. Simply crossposting to AUK<BITCHSLAP>

Witnessing/preaching. The fact that you can't admit it says much about you.

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On 2006-09-16 23:32:11 -0400, gu...@consolidated.neet (guy) said:

> A few have tried to reach Dr Chung. Unfortunately
> it seem to be impossible. Like a lot of folks he
> has been brain washed.

What brain?

sechumlib

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On 2006-09-16 22:26:13 -0400, Alan S <loralgtwei...@gmail.com> said:

> On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 20:02:29 GMT, sechumlib
> <sech...@liberal.net> wrote:
>
>> Anyway, the one I'm on is alt.support.diabetes which has NOTHING to do
>> with cardiovascular disease.
>
> You've apparently been misinformed about the possible
> complications of diabetes.

LOL!

sechumlib

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Sep 17, 2006, 9:04:09 AM9/17/06
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On 2006-09-17 07:40:12 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<lo...@thetruth.com> said:

> No. Simply crossposting to AUK per the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

Oh, the Spook has gotten very tecnologically up to date, then?

sechumlib

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Sep 17, 2006, 9:05:19 AM9/17/06
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On 2006-09-16 23:01:30 -0400, GrandpaChuck <Grandp...@B4ME.org> said:

> On 16 Sep 2006 17:21:02 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>
> Learn to snip asshole!

That doesn't sound like a good thing to snip. :-)

W.M.McKee

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On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 13:05:19 GMT, sechumlib <sech...@liberal.net>
wrote:

> Learn to snip asshole!
>
>That doesn't sound like a good thing to snip. :-)

Ha!

Ma¢k

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Sep 17, 2006, 9:41:47 AM9/17/06
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[Default] On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 18:45:13 -0400, dsa...@webtv.net (Dave)
Maniacally Screamed the following like a drunken dsa...@webtv.net
(Dave) into the madness of usenet:

>"Self dreamed up? Individuals own problem? Liberal bullshit is what that
>is.


no it's not liberal bullshit. it has nothing to do with being a
liberal.

sechumlib

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Sep 17, 2006, 10:28:01 AM9/17/06
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On 2006-09-16 18:45:13 -0400, dsa...@webtv.net (Dave) said:

> Pardon my language but that's bullshit. There is real evil in this world
> and there are people who are nothing but pure evil. Terrorist,
> murderers, child molesters, rapist. Those people don't do what they do
> by mistake. It's a choice not an accident. All of them are pure evil and
> they deserve nothing but hate. They may appear at times to be innocent,
> even harmless, but that's merely a facade to hide their true nature. A
> ruse to fool the naive.
>
> "Self dreamed up? Individuals own problem? Liberal bullshit is what that
> is.

You're another one of those hypocritical, immoral conservative nuts,
aren't you? Of course you are; I remember the name.

How someone like you can accuse a liberal like me, who has a strict
moral code and follows it, of engaging in bullshit is as
incomprehensible (know what THAT word means, dummy?) as someone like
Bob Ney or Tom DeLay claiming the moral high ground and then pleading
guilty to an immoral act/crime or resigning from Congress to avoid all
the shit coming down on him.

And then there's Rush Limbaugh, one of the worst hypocrites of all time.

Where do you fruitcakes get off, criticizing those of us who practice
what we preach?

GrandpaChuck

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Sep 17, 2006, 1:36:08 PM9/17/06
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On 16 Sep 2006 20:41:02 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:

>> No. It shows that Mack knows a troll when he sees one.
>
>Your choice to bear false witness is forgiven as far as I am concerned.
>
>May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor Chuck whom I
>love unconditionally.

Take your meds and go masturbate until you fall asleep in god's love.
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Over 100 Iraqi civilians are killed every day. Most by so-called insurgents.
More than 19,910 Americans wounded.

09/17/2006 it’s 1238 days since Bush declared, "Mission Accomplished in Iraq."


GrandpaChuck

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Sep 17, 2006, 1:36:40 PM9/17/06
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 13:05:19 GMT, sechumlib <sech...@liberal.net>
wrote:

>On 2006-09-16 23:01:30 -0400, GrandpaChuck <Grandp...@B4ME.org> said:

If you have roids it might be.

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Over 100 Iraqi civilians are killed every day. Most by so-called insurgents.
More than 19,910 Americans wounded.

09/17/2006 it’s 1238 days since Bush declared, "Mission Accomplished in Iraq."


percy

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Sep 17, 2006, 6:13:32 PM9/17/06
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Wes Groleau wrote:

> Wes Groleau wrote:
>
>> GrandpaChuck wrote:
>>
>>> I do in order to show the fallacies of his rantings.
>>
>>
>> Doesn't work, does it?
>
>
> If you want different results, do something different.
>

Which is exactly the reason he was put on display in alt.usenet.kooks.
11 kook awards in 6 months is quite an accomplishment.

Vicki

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Sep 17, 2006, 6:32:55 PM9/17/06
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Then you shouldn't mind a permanent link between ASD and AUK to
commemorate your accomplishment.

May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear

neighbor Vicki whom I love unconditionally.

The Demon Prince of Absurdity

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Sep 17, 2006, 9:53:32 PM9/17/06
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 13:04:09 +0000, sechumlib did the cha-cha, and
screamed:

> On 2006-09-17 07:40:12 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" said:
>
>> No. Simply crossposting to AUK per the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
>
> Oh, the Spook has gotten very tecnologically up to date, then?

Hot Buns there just likes to troll support groups. We(tinw) are very
sorry he won't leave you alone and concentrate on us(tinu) instead,
because we(tinw) are much better equipped to deal with his flooding, but
perhaps that can be alleviated, not that I would know how, at this
point.

Pope Snarky Goodfella of the undulating cable, JM, CK, POEE, KOTHASK, DSOCPL, EOTHIDIAUTP, GGGHD, HCNB, CPFWJ, CPFG, MWFA, CEM

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Sep 18, 2006, 7:20:22 AM9/18/06
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Hail Eris! Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> percy wrote:
> > Wes Groleau wrote:
> > > Wes Groleau wrote:
> > >> GrandpaChuck wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I do in order to show the fallacies of his rantings.
> > >>
> > >> Doesn't work, does it?
> > >
> > > If you want different results, do something different.
> >
> > Which is exactly the reason he was put on display in alt.usenet.kooks.
> > 11 kook awards in 6 months is quite an accomplishment.
>
> Then you shouldn't mind a permanent link between ASD and AUK to
> commemorate your accomplishment.

Support group troll. Phony. Fraud. Quack. You should be permanently
barred from ever attempting to practice medicine, if not jailed.

It's not name-calling when it's true.

Snarky

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Sep 18, 2006, 9:15:16 AM9/18/06
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Neighbor wrote:
> Hail Eris! Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > percy wrote:
> > > Wes Groleau wrote:
> > > > Wes Groleau wrote:
> > > >> GrandpaChuck wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> I do in order to show the fallacies of his rantings.
> > > >>
> > > >> Doesn't work, does it?
> > > >
> > > > If you want different results, do something different.
> > >
> > > Which is exactly the reason he was put on display in alt.usenet.kooks.
> > > 11 kook awards in 6 months is quite an accomplishment.
> >
> > Then you shouldn't mind a permanent link between ASD and AUK to
> > commemorate your accomplishment.
>
> Support group troll. Phony. Fraud. Quack.

Name-calling simply serves to demonstrate that you are lost.

> You should be permanently
> barred from ever attempting to practice medicine, if not jailed.

Sorry these posts bother you so terribly. Please forgive all my
iniquities.

> It's not name-calling when it's true.

Only those who GOD has called to bear witness are able to do so
truthfully.

May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor whom I love

sechumlib

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Sep 18, 2006, 9:29:46 AM9/18/06
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On 2006-09-18 09:15:16 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<lo...@thetruth.com> said:

> Neighbor wrote:
>> Support group troll. Phony. Fraud. Quack.
>
> Name-calling simply serves to demonstrate that you are lost.
>
>> You should be permanently
>> barred from ever attempting to practice medicine, if not jailed.
>
> Sorry these posts bother you so terribly. Please forgive all my
> iniquities.
>
>> It's not name-calling when it's true.
>
> Only those who GOD has called to bear witness are able to do so
> truthfully.
>
> May GOD continue to keep your heart beating, dear neighbor whom I love
> unconditionally.
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Gotta make a living somehow, don't you, Andy?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Sep 18, 2006, 12:02:20 PM9/18/06
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sechumlib wrote:

> Andrew wrote:
> > Neighbor wrote:
> >> Support group troll. Phony. Fraud. Quack.
> >
> > Name-calling simply serves to demonstrate that you are lost.
> >
> >> You should be permanently
> >> barred from ever attempting to practice medicine, if not jailed.
> >
> > Sorry these posts bother you so terribly. Please forgive all my
> > iniquities.
> >
> >> It's not name-calling when it's true.
> >
> > Only those who GOD has called to bear witness are able to do so
> > truthfully.
>
> Gotta make a living somehow, don't you, Andy?

There is no living to make without Christ Jesus.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life..." -- LORD Jesus Christ.

Amen !

Laus Deo ! !

Marana tha ! ! !

May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear


neighbor whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><

sechumlib

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Sep 18, 2006, 12:45:09 PM9/18/06
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On 2006-09-18 12:02:20 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<lo...@thetruth.com> said:

> sechumlib wrote:

>> Gotta make a living somehow, don't you, Andy?
>
> There is no living to make without Christ Jesus.

Sure there is. I did it, quite successfully, for more than 30 years.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Sep 18, 2006, 2:42:54 PM9/18/06
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sechumlib wrote:

> Andrew wrote:
> > sechumlib wrote:
>
> >> Gotta make a living somehow, don't you, Andy?
> >
> > There is no living to make without Christ Jesus.
>
> Sure there is. I did it, quite successfully, for more than 30 years.

30 years is infinitely smaller than the rest of eternity.

Without the LORD, your brief life is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).

sechumlib

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Sep 18, 2006, 3:37:43 PM9/18/06
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On 2006-09-18 14:42:54 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<lo...@thetruth.com> said:

> sechumlib wrote:
>> Andrew wrote:
>>> sechumlib wrote:
>>
>>>> Gotta make a living somehow, don't you, Andy?
>>>
>>> There is no living to make without Christ Jesus.
>>
>> Sure there is. I did it, quite successfully, for more than 30 years.
>
> 30 years is infinitely smaller than the rest of eternity.

Hmmm. Are YOU assigning me the project of remaining employed for "the
rest of eternity"? I'm retired, and I DON'T accept the assignment. And
frankly, you don't count.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Sep 18, 2006, 5:44:58 PM9/18/06
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sechumlib wrote:
> Andrew wrote:
> > sechumlib wrote:
> >> Andrew wrote:
> >>> sechumlib wrote:
> >>
> >>>> Gotta make a living somehow, don't you, Andy?
> >>>
> >>> There is no living to make without Christ Jesus.
> >>
> >> Sure there is. I did it, quite successfully, for more than 30 years.
> >
> > 30 years is infinitely smaller than the rest of eternity.
>
> Hmmm. Are YOU assigning me the project of remaining employed for "the
> rest of eternity"?

No.

> I'm retired

Sad to read this.

> , and I DON'T accept the assignment.

Without the LORD, there will be no eternal life for you much less an
eternal place/assignment for you in heaven.

> And frankly, you don't count.

WIthout the LORD, your beliefs are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).

GrandpaChuck

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Sep 18, 2006, 6:43:06 PM9/18/06
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On 18 Sep 2006 14:44:58 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:

>
>Without the LORD, there will be no eternal life for you much less an
>eternal place/assignment for you in heaven.
>

OTOH if we live the best life we can while here on earth the afterlife
will take care of itself. I cannot think of anything more useless than
wondering where my spirit will be after it leaves this vessel.
--

Grandpa Chuck
-ô¿ô-
~

Americans killed in Iraq as of September 16, 2006 is 2,684. United Kingdom = 118 Other = 115.

Over 100 Iraqi civilians are killed every day. Most by so-called insurgents.
More than 19,910 Americans wounded.

09/18/2006 it’s 1239 days since Bush declared, "Mission Accomplished in Iraq."


sechumlib

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Sep 18, 2006, 6:47:23 PM9/18/06
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On 2006-09-18 17:44:58 -0400, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<lo...@thetruth.com> said:

> sechumlib wrote:
>> Andrew wrote:
>>> sechumlib wrote:
>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>> sechumlib wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Gotta make a living somehow, don't you, Andy?
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no living to make without Christ Jesus.
>>>>
>>>> Sure there is. I did it, quite successfully, for more than 30 years.
>>>
>>> 30 years is infinitely smaller than the rest of eternity.
>>
>> Hmmm. Are YOU assigning me the project of remaining employed for "the
>> rest of eternity"?
>
> No.
>
>> I'm retired
>
> Sad to read this.
>
>> , and I DON'T accept the assignment.
>
> Without the LORD, there will be no eternal life for you much less an
> eternal place/assignment for you in heaven.
>
>> And frankly, you don't count.
>
> WIthout the LORD, your beliefs are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
>
> May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
> neighbor whom I love unconditionally.
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Rabbits hop.

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