In a singing mood
freedom
American Pie.....
> a long, long time ago
> i can still remember
> when ken pangborn used to live in style
> and every time he'd have a chance
> he'd take that photoshopped boarding pass
> and go get a cuban hooker for a while
> but 2005 made me shiver
> with the verdict the trustee delivered
> pangborn's got no more cash
> his credit rating is trash
> i can't remember if ken cried
> when we sent the URL to his mailorder bride
> his HDTV, he tried to hide
> the day....ken's credit died.
> they started singing....
> bye, bye mr. consultant guy
> citibank asked for their money
> but ken didn't reply
> the old fatboy could only sit there and lie
> saying "my house doesn't appraise that high...."
> my house just won't appraise that high......
> did you write that check to Chase
> and did Peggy's sis give you a spray of mace
> when you tried to cop a feel
> will the trustee sell your Uncle Mistletoe
> can David Sharp save your mortal soul
> and can you teach me how to avoid paying AmEx
> well, I know you owe Discover 7 grand
> `cause I saw it written on page 10
> and Lewis Hoffman never paid you
> man, we know how much you hate Jews
> you left the court with just 30 bucks
> 17 grand still owed on your Chrysler truck,
> but now your FICO really sucks
> the day the credit died.
> I started singin=92,
> bye, bye mr. consultant guy
> tried to withdraw from Wachovia
> they said "you must be high..."
> B of A got a judgment and your checking is dry
> singin=92, "this=92ll be the day that Ken lies..."
> "this=92ll be the day that Ken lies...."
> i met a dad whom ken had used
> and i asked him why ken hated jews
> but he just smiled and turned away
> and i went down to the figurine store
> where ken got those gay dolls years before
> but the man there said that pangborn never paid
> and in his house, his abused wife screamed
> stephanie hid, and ernesto got reamed
> not a literate word was spoken
> peggy's nose was broken
> and the person whom he's obsessed with most
> dfavid moroe, the aboutkenpangborn host
> posted the BK, and now ken's toast
> the day that pangborn lied.
> I started singin=92,
> bye, bye mr. consultant guy
> tried to withdraw from Wachovia
> they said "you must be high..."
> B of A got a judgment and your checking is dry
> singin=92, "this=92ll be the day that Ken lies..."
> "this=92ll be the day that Ken lies...."=20
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
The truth about Kenneth Pangborn, who supports convicted child sex
criminals
"[I have] [n]ever had [any] standing in the Texas Criminal Defense Lawyer's=
Association or AN Y connection to them."
--Ken Pangborn in a usenet post on January 1, 2009, denying affiliation
with the TCDLA, to whom he provided bogus educational credentials. His lie=
is disproved here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20060822021821/www.tcdla.com/secure/experts/inde=
x.shtml
"Some photo of some girl without even any documentation on THAT only proves=
that YOU are a PSYCHO! A really STUPID one at that!"
--Ken Pangborn, admitting to being a "stupid" "psycho" in message-ID
<jOp3l.292$Es4...@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>
"The FACT is that [my mail-order wife Barbara Sanciprian] and I were
introduced in the FORMAL Spanish tradition by mutual friends, and were
married first in Cuba after 2 year courtship."
--Ken Pangborn, admitting that he began cheating on his wife Peggy on
September 28, 2001, nearly two years before she separated from him
"I'm David Moore and I am insane!"
--Ken Pangborn posting to alt.dads-rights.unmoderated, attempting to claim
that his name is David Moore
"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll cripple
you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
but you will still be a cripple."
--Pangborn puppet Greg Hanson of alt.support.child-protective-services **,
in a verbal threat to his girlfriend
** - this conclusion was reached via applying Ken and Greg's logic
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womanGoddess
wrote:
>
> x.shtml
>
> "Some photo of some girl without even any documentation on THAT only proves=
>
> that YOU are a PSYCHO! A really STUPID one at that!"
> --Ken Pangborn, admitting to being a "stupid" "psycho" in message-ID
That's pretty good!
Got anything about Kennie and gregge together?
Moe
Eternal FOREVER KNIGHT fan
" A vampire cop? REALLY?"
"http://home.earthlink.net/~19ranger57/blies.htm
Know your scum--- http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
Greegor
so why do you post so many garbage characters?
"=20" and "=92" for example.
How does that stuff slip by your massive cerebrum?
freedom
Why not just ask me this from your Roadrunner account, Ken?
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
The truth about Kenneth Pangborn, who supports convicted child sex
criminals
"[I have] [n]ever had [any] standing in the Texas Criminal Defense Lawyer's
Association or AN Y connection to them."
--Ken Pangborn in a usenet post on January 1, 2009, denying affiliation
with the TCDLA, to whom he provided bogus educational credentials. His lie
is disproved here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20060822021821/www.tcdla.com/secure/experts/inde
x.shtml
"Some photo of some girl without even any documentation on THAT only proves
that YOU are a PSYCHO! A really STUPID one at that!"
--Ken Pangborn, admitting to being a "stupid" "psycho" in message-ID
<jOp3l.292$Es4...@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>
"The FACT is that [my mail-order wife Barbara Sanciprian] and I were
introduced in the FORMAL Spanish tradition by mutual friends, and were
married first in Cuba after 2 year courtship."
--Ken Pangborn, admitting that he began cheating on his wife Peggy on
September 28, 2001, nearly two years before she separated from him
"I'm David Moore and I am insane!"
--Ken Pangborn posting to alt.dads-rights.unmoderated, attempting to claim
that his name is David Moore
"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll cripple
you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
but you will still be a cripple."
--Pangborn puppet Greg Hanson of alt.support.child-protective-services **,
in a verbal threat to his girlfriend
** - this conclusion was reached via applying Ken and Greg's logic
Keywords: false allegations,sexual abuse,marital rape, date rape, sexual
harassment,child abuse,domestic violence,rape allegations,false allegations
Greegor
G > so why do you post so many garbage characters?
G > "=20" and "=92" for example.
G > How does that stuff slip by your massive cerebrum?
DDM > Why not just ask me this from your Roadrunner account, Ken?
If you're such a friggin' technical genius, then
why didn't you read the message header?
Why don't you just admit it, Dave, you're
what is known derisively as a "script kiddie".
freedom
>On Nov 1, 2:47=A0pm, freedom <aboutKRP...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com>
>wrote:
>> I was in the mood for some oldies rock this morning, so I went for some
>> American Pie.....
>>
>>
>>
>> > a long, long time ago
>> > i can still remember
>> > when ken pangborn used to live in style
>> > and every time he'd have a chance
>> > he'd take that photoshopped boarding pass
>> > and go get a cuban hooker for a while
>
>
> Got anything about Kennie and gregge together?
I'll take a crack at it.....how about some Sir Elton John?
Hey kids, shake it loose together
The newsgroups got two kooks
Their lies change like the weather
We'll embarrass Ken's fat ass tonight
So stick around
You're gonna hear circular arguments
Solid walls of B.S.
Say, Kent and Moe, have you seen them yet
But they're so spaced out, KKK-Kennie and his pet
Oh but they're weird and they like young girls
Oh Kennie he's a closet queen
Greg's got Lisa's daughter in her birthday suit
In the shower "to make sure she's clean"
KKK-Kennie and his pet
Anyone want to jump in?
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
The truth about Kenneth Pangborn, who supports convicted child sex
criminals
"[I have] [n]ever had [any] standing in the Texas Criminal Defense Lawyer's=
Association or AN Y connection to them."
--Ken Pangborn in a usenet post on January 1, 2009, denying affiliation
with the TCDLA, to whom he provided bogus educational credentials. His lie=
is disproved here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20060822021821/www.tcdla.com/secure/experts/inde=
x.shtml
"Some photo of some girl without even any documentation on THAT only proves=
that YOU are a PSYCHO! A really STUPID one at that!"
--Ken Pangborn, admitting to being a "stupid" "psycho" in message-ID
<jOp3l.292$Es4...@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>
womanGoddess
A script kiddie is someone who downloads a hacker program and thinks
with it he thinks he is on the same level as actual hackers.
You mistook a frigging word processing notation for a script kiddie?
You ARE stupid !!
Greegor
G > so why do you post so many garbage characters?
G > "=20" and "=92" for example.
G > How does that stuff slip by your massive cerebrum?
DDM > Why not just ask me this from your Roadrunner account, Ken?
G > If you're such a friggin' technical genius, then
G > why didn't you read the message header?
G >
G > Why don't you just admit it, Dave, you're
G > what is known derisively as a "script kiddie".
Moe > A script kiddie is someone who downloads
Moe > a hacker program and thinks with it he
Moe > thinks he is on the same level as actual hackers.
Ask Dave what TOR is! LOL
Moe > You mistook a frigging word processing notation for a script
kiddie?
Moe >
Moe > You ARE stupid !!
What word processor uses tokens like "=20" and "=92" ?
Hex 20 is a space and 92 is a \ I think.
These are more likely what is called parsing errors.
Ask Dave! LOL
womanGoddess
> G > Hey Dave, I know you think you're a technical wizard and all
> G > so why do you post so many garbage characters?
> G > "=20" and "=92" for example.
> G > How does that stuff slip by your massive cerebrum?
>
> DDM > Why not just ask me this from your Roadrunner account, Ken?
>
> G > If you're such a friggin' technical genius, then
> G > why didn't you read the message header?
> G >
> G > Why don't you just admit it, Dave, you're
> G > what is known derisively as a "script kiddie".
>
> Moe > A script kiddie is someone who downloads
> Moe > a hacker program and thinks with it he
> Moe > thinks he is on the same level as actual hackers.
>
> Ask Dave what TOR is! LOL
Why? You and you gay misogynist bigot buddy Kennie wouldn't know squat
about basic hacking. much less how to cover your own tracks. Kennie
got caught and you are trying to do your childish crap on me using
another nym, thinking apparently I wouldn't know who it was.
Not to mention all the crossposting you two do to newsgroups that
really do';t give a damn what you two fuckwits say.
>
> Moe > You mistook a frigging word processing notation for a script
> kiddie?
> Moe >
> Moe > You ARE stupid !!
>
> What word processor uses tokens like "=20" and "=92" ?
(( rolls eyes))
>
> Hex 20 is a space and 92 is a \ I think.
>
> These are more likely what is called parsing errors.
While you are a biological error.
>
> Ask Dave! LOL
Why?
krp
"womanGoddess" <fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:225a3c82-b57f-48b0...@r24g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 8, 11:23 am, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
> G > Hey Dave, I know you think you're a technical wizard and all
> G > so why do you post so many garbage characters?
> G > "=20" and "=92" for example.
> G > How does that stuff slip by your massive cerebrum?
>
> DDM > Why not just ask me this from your Roadrunner account, Ken?
>
> G > If you're such a friggin' technical genius, then
> G > why didn't you read the message header?
> G >
> G > Why don't you just admit it, Dave, you're
> G > what is known derisively as a "script kiddie".
>
> Moe > A script kiddie is someone who downloads
> Moe > a hacker program and thinks with it he
> Moe > thinks he is on the same level as actual hackers.
>
> Ask Dave what TOR is! LOL
MAUREEN MCALLISTER> Why? You and you gay misogynist bigot buddy Kennie
wouldn't know squat
MAUREEN MCALLISTER> about basic hacking. much less how to cover your own
tracks.
It is rather AMUSING, however, that YOU hold yourself out as some kind
of EXPERT, constantly referring to hacker groups etc. Not at all surprising
for a FEMINAZI on Usenet!
Kent Wills
<fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[...]
>> Moe > A script kiddie is someone who downloads
>> Moe > a hacker program and thinks with it he
>> Moe > thinks he is on the same level as actual hackers.
>>
>> Ask Dave what TOR is! =A0 =A0LOL
>
>Why?
Turns out TOR is what pedophiles use to trade child porn.
Little wonder Greg would know about it.
>You and you gay misogynist bigot buddy Kennie wouldn't know squat
>about basic hacking.
According to what I've read, TOR has nothing to do with hacking,
but trading files without the risk of doing it out in the open.
>much less how to cover your own tracks. Kennie
>got caught
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com/judgedredd.html
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com/altatheism.html
>and you are trying to do your childish crap on me using
>another nym, thinking apparently I wouldn't know who it was.
It could be Greg. It could be Michael. It could be any number of
people. I lack the motivation to even try to find out.
>
>Not to mention all the crossposting you two do to newsgroups that
>really do';t give a damn what you two fuckwits say.
It's a part of their psychological disorders.
Greg admitted his stalking, by the very definition he posted to
accuse others of stalking him, of the members of alt.friends is due to
his use and abuse of illegal drugs. Pangborn simply seeks to disrupt
groups. He's a troll.
>
>>
>> Moe > You mistook a frigging word processing notation for a script
>> kiddie?
>> Moe >
>> Moe > You ARE stupid !!
>>
>> What word processor uses tokens like "=3D20" and "=3D92" ?
>
>(( rolls eyes))
>
>>
>> Hex 20 is a space and 92 is a \ I think.
>>
>> These are more likely what is called parsing errors.
>
> While you are a biological error.
Good one!
>
>>
>> Ask Dave! =A0 =A0 =A0LOL
>
> Why?
Because Greg is so stupid, a result of his admitted use and abuse
of illegal drugs, that he isn't capable of knowing.
Title: ST VS GREGORY HANSON
(DOB 05/22/1959)
CRIMINAL COMPLAINT 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 1 OWI 1ST
OTHER CITATION 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 2 SPEED
Disposition Status
GUILTY PLEA/DEFAULT
"That's the chick, but not the pic, zipperhead!"
Greg Hanson proving his bigotry towards Asians, or proving he's so
stupid he thinks I'm Asian.
MID:<c6bac3f6-7a0e-4bf8-8ddd-d77bccfc6...@p49g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.legal/msg/395db830731df54a
http://www.rsdb.org/search?q=zipperhead
Me: "I suspect your stalking is due to the use and abuse of illegal
drugs, Greg. Is the reason for your stalking the members of
alt.friends due to the use and abuse of illegal drugs?
Gregory Scott Hanson, wife beater and child abuser: "Of course."
"My family's case is for Neglect, but we are treated
in virtually every regard as child abusers, marked on
the Child Abuse registry, for example."
-- Greg Scott Hanson telling Usenet he's a FOUNDED child abuser.
Message-ID: <35120b16.04011...@posting.google.com>
" ... But there ought to be conferences and studies on how to curb
minority overpopulation, repatriate minorities abroad, imprison more
minorities, increase use of the death penalty and divest minorities of
the power they have usurped over us in recent years. That would
address the most pressing problems of our day. ... "
April 2000, Gregory Hanson
http://www.nationalist.org/ATW/2000/040101.html#Hanson
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From: Greegor <gree...@gmail.com>
Newsgroups:
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With the Christmas season upon us again, my stepdaughter was launching
into her usual tirade of "I need this" (Nintendo 64 games, Pokemon,
videos, Rhianna CD, etc.) After enduring a trip through Kmart, I
was at my wits end. I took the kid home and filled the bathtub with
water. Then I dunked the brat's head under the water and counted out
a full minute, with her flailing her arms. I brought her up and she
gasped for air. When she'd caught her breath, I asked her, "When you
were under that water, did you 'need' Nintendo? Pokemon? Rhianna?"
She shook her head. "What were you thinking about?" I
prodded. She told me "I was thinking that I needed air."
"Now you know the difference between 'need' and 'want'" I exclaimed
triumphantly.
--a true story
Kent Wills
wrote:
Get off the booze, Pangborn. Once again you PROVE that your
alcoholism (unless you lied) compels you to claim that which you KNOW
is not true.
>constantly referring to hacker groups etc. Not at all surprising
>for a FEMINAZI on Usenet!
When, outside of your drunken stupors, has Moe claimed to be a
FemiNazi? Be specific, unless you're lying, of course.
"Maybe he's like me to attach some kiddie porn to aid his fantasies"
Kenneth Robert Pangborn, of KRP Consulting and The A-Team, expressing
his fondness for child porn in
Message-ID:
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noauth
Greegor <gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
Flush.
Greegor
I just LOVE that in your arguing in defense of Dave,
that you described exactly what he and Kent do
as "script kiddie" behavior.
You're a real asset to the other hyenas
in your pack! LOL
Please resume saying REALLY NASTY
things about me! LOL
Kent Wills
wrote:
>Maureen:
>I just LOVE that in your arguing in defense of Dave,
>that you described exactly what he and Kent do
>as "script kiddie" behavior.
I'm not into the hacker scene on any level.
Care to try a different lie?
>
>You're a real asset to the other hyenas
>in your pack! LOL
Projection noted.
>
>Please resume saying REALLY NASTY
>things about me! LOL
It's sad that you see truth as nasty.
It's also sad that you're still using and abusing illegal drugs.
you've admitted that it's your use and abuse of illegal drugs that
forces you to stalk (using the very definition you posted to accuse
others of stalking you) the members of alt.friends. You're still
stalking, which indicates you've yet to overcome and master your
addiction.
Greegor
Now even Kent says you're not a hacker!
Hey Dave, Did you like that comment by Kent about who uses TOR?
KBW > Turns out TOR is what pedophiles use to trade child porn.
I thought it was precious!
Dave, Are you still denying that Wikipedia rejected your propaganda?
Contacto
Greegor <gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
Flush.
Greegor
G > Now even Kent says you're not a hacker!
G >
G > Hey Dave, Did you like that comment by Kent about who uses TOR?
KBW > Turns out TOR is what pedophiles use to trade child porn.
G > I thought it was precious!
G >
G > Dave, Are you still denying that Wikipedia rejected your
propaganda?
Golly, Dave, you're ""Anonymous"".
NOBODY knows it's you!
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Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
Flush.
womanGoddess
> "womanGoddess" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
I never said I was an expert on anything Kennie, You are the one
screwed up in the head who has to make that accusation on anyone who
can counter your BS, so you do this mocking " LEADING AUTHORITY" crap.
It doesn't give you credibility Kennie. It just makes you look
immature.
I do find it interesting that when anyone who actually KNOWS about a
subject ( such as, oh certain things in the Air Force) and when they
correct you on your many lies, you go off on your shit fits and call
then names, etc., rather that deal with the facts.
I never claimed any level of actual hacker knowledge. I just find
that the public perception of hackers as bad people to be misleading.
I never " constantly refer to hacker groups" as you falsely claim
Kennie. I mentioned 2600 at most twice in my posts.
Do try once in awhile to actually stick to the facts.
BTW I've noticed your patsy Greg has resorted to calling Moore a "
script kiddie"-- this AFTER I explained what a script kiddie actually
is. Not exactly a bright one, is your little butt monkey, Kennie?
But then he did post copyrighted material on the internet without
permission-- twice.
womanGoddess
> Maureen:
> I just LOVE that in your arguing in defense of Dave,
> that you described exactly what he and Kent do
> as "script kiddie" behavior.
No I didn't. Where's the proof either one downloaded a hacker proggie
and are using it?
And for YOU to know what TOR is really doesn't say much for you Greg.
I at first thought TOR was a SF/fantasy publishing company and had no
idea what in reference to computers it actually was until Kent
revealed it is a file sharing service favored by pedophiles.
And yet you know about it Greg.
Which, sad to say, doesn't surprise me.
>
> You're a real asset to the other hyenas
> in your pack! LOL
Considering that hyenas can crush even elephant bones and can digest
most anything biodegradable, I would consider that a complement.
You, OTOH, are more of an opossum. Ugly, opportunistic and when
confronted you freeze up and play dead.
>
> Please resume saying REALLY NASTY
> things about me! LOL
I don't need to Greg. You prove yourself to be scum pretty much in
every post you make.
womanGoddess
> Dave:
> Now even Kent says you're not a hacker!
No one except you, as Kennie's mouth, has said that. And yet you wish
to make the claim that Dave is a script kiddie after I explained what
that term means.
This is another of your strawmen games isn't it?
>
> Hey Dave, Did you like that comment by Kent about who uses TOR?
The fact that YOU know about it and that it is what sicko child porn
creeps use makes you out be incredibly stupid for mentioning it in the
first place. It give the impression you know about it because you
yourself use it.
BTW I should mention one fact about peer to peer file sharing
networkrs. You don't know when you download something what ELSE you
are getting along with the file you want. Its a really good avenue for
certain people to create zombies in a DDOS attack.
>
> KBW > Turns out TOR is what pedophiles use to trade child porn.
>
> I thought it was precious!
Really? How much have you used it Greg?
>
> Dave, Are you still denying that Wikipedia rejected your propaganda?
(( rolls eyes))
Greegor
Moe > publishing company and had no idea
Moe > what in reference to computers it
Moe > actually was until Kent revealed it is
Moe > a file sharing service favored by pedophiles.
Is that exactly what Kent told you TOR is, Moe?
alt.privacy.anon-server
Greegor
Moe > has said that. And yet you wish to make
Moe > the claim that Dave is a script kiddie
Moe > after I explained what that term means.
Moe, You expected me to bow to your
technical prowess?
ROFL (slaps knee)
Your explanation of what a Script Kiddy is
was not too bad, except you apparently didn't
know that was EXACTLY what Dave does!
When you said that Kent described TOR as
file sharing software for child porn freaks,
that was freaking HILARIOUS!
Did you notice that Davey has not rushed
to explain it to you? LOL
alt.privacy.anon-server
womanGoddess
> Moe > No one except you, as Kennie's mouth,
> Moe > has said that. And yet you wish to make
> Moe > the claim that Dave is a script kiddie
> Moe > after I explained what that term means.
>
> Moe, You expected me to bow to your
> technical prowess?
>
> ROFL (slaps knee)
(( Watches Greg's knee break))
How's your glass jaw Greg? Any more grandpa's punching your lights
out for molesting their seven year old daughters? Speaking of which,
has Lisa gotten HER daughter back?
>
> Your explanation of what a Script Kiddy is
> was not too bad,
Particularly since you didn't know it and have';t used the term until
AFTER I said what it means.
It wouldn't surprise me that you thought " script kiddie" was child
porn, seeing as you like that disgusting stuff so much.
>except you apparently didn't
> know that was EXACTLY what Dave does!
Nor do I care Greg, but DO tell us how your obsession with Dave is
such that you know ALL about him.
Go ahead and prove how much of an obsessive stalker you are.
>
> When you said that Kent described TOR as
> file sharing software for child porn freaks,
> that was freaking HILARIOUS!
Because you mentioned it and it brought into question the
possibility YOU know about it because you collect child porn.
The question still remains, Why do YOU know about the TOR-child porn
angle?
>
> Did you notice that Davey has not rushed
> to explain it to you? LOL
Unlike you, Dave has a life, and your response to me was barely three
hours apart from when I posted.
You HAVE heard of people living outside of the internet, haven't you?
Since you don't have a job and mooch off of Lisa, you obviously
don't interact much with the outside world. Like your master Kennie
doesn't, but in HIS case he can't because he can't fake being "
normal" for very long.
"ParK!! PARK!!! PARK!!!"
Greegor
Moe > has said that. And yet you wish to make
Moe > the claim that Dave is a script kiddie
Moe > after I explained what that term means.
G > Moe, You expected me to bow to your
G > technical prowess?
G >
G > ROFL (slaps knee)
Moe > (( Watches Greg's knee break))
Dream on witchy poo.
Moe > How's your glass jaw Greg? Any more grandpa's
Moe > punching your lights out for molesting their seven
Moe > year old daughters?
Grandpas 7 year old daughters?
Moe > Speaking of which, has Lisa
Moe > gotten HER daughter back?
You tell me!
G > Your explanation of what a Script Kiddy is
G > was not too bad,
Moe > Particularly since you didn't know it
Moe > and have';t used the term until
Moe > AFTER I said what it means.
Short attention span?
You ""defined"" it because I used it.
And got it wrong.
Moe > It wouldn't surprise me that you
Moe > thought " script kiddie" was child
Moe > porn, seeing as you like that
Moe > disgusting stuff so much.
You are the one who blurred the two.
Kent explained TOR to you all wrong! LOL
Come on Moe, get REALLY nasty!
G > except you apparently didn't
G > know that was EXACTLY what Dave does!
Moe > Nor do I care Greg, but DO tell us how
Moe > your obsession with Dave is
Moe > such that you know ALL about him.
He IS a SCRIPT KIDDY!
He fits the definition you posted!
Moe > Go ahead and prove how much
Moe > of an obsessive stalker you are.
You forgot to call me fat.
G > When you said that Kent described TOR as
G > file sharing software for child porn freaks,
G > that was freaking HILARIOUS!
Moe > Because you mentioned it
-------------------------
Moe > Particularly since you didn't know it
Moe > and have';t used the term until
Moe > AFTER I said what it means.
------------------------
Moe > and it brought into question the
Moe > possibility YOU know about it
Moe > because you collect child porn.
Don't you think it might be just a bit TOO EASY to
pretend that your opponents are REALLY EVIL?
Moe > The question still remains, Why do YOU
Moe > know about the TOR-child porn angle?
YOU'RE the one who claimed that connection!
G > Did you notice that Davey has not rushed
G > to explain it to you? LOL
Moe > Unlike you, Dave has a life, and your
Moe > response to me was barely three
Moe > hours apart from when I posted.
So?
Moe > You HAVE heard of people living outside of the internet, haven't
you?
How is Frank doing anyway?
How long did he keep that collector car?
Moe > Since you don't have a job and mooch off of Lisa,
Moe > you obviously don't interact much with the outside
Moe > world. Like your master Kennie doesn't, but in
Moe > HIS case he can't because he can't fake being "
Moe > normal" for very long.
Moe >
Moe > "ParK!! PARK!!! PARK!!!"
You're a misfit who can't get a date with either gender.
Who is that kid in that photo with you?
Dan Sullivan
"Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:135fd21b-a880-4207...@k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>>
> Who is that kid in that photo with you?
grag hanson of Cedar Rapids, Iowa, has targeted another kid.
Kent Wills
Greg does like kids, and not in any healthy way. He sees them as
sexual objects, as he's proved multiple times.
Greegor
Maybe there SHOULD be an investigation into
who that boy is, if he is underage.
Moe posted the photo online.
womanGoddess
A) That is not a photo of me, no matter what you try to claim.I never
posted that photo.
B) You contradicted yourself here from your other posts about me
where you repeatedly claim I can never get, much less keep a man.
C) The MAN I am with is an adult.
Sadly your sexual interest is in prepubescent girls, which IS a
crime.
You still haven't found my Photobucket photos yet Greg? I gave you a
clue on which person to look for.
womanGoddess
> Moe > No one except you, as Kennie's mouth,
> Moe > has said that. And yet you wish to make
> Moe > the claim that Dave is a script kiddie
> Moe > after I explained what that term means.
>
> G > Moe, You expected me to bow to your
> G > technical prowess?
> G >
> G > ROFL (slaps knee)
>
> Moe > (( Watches Greg's knee break))
>
> Dream on witchy poo.
Sorry I never really was for that old children's TV series. And, as
usual, you misspelled the character's name.
>
> Moe > How's your glass jaw Greg? Any more grandpa's
> Moe > punching your lights out for molesting their seven
> Moe > year old daughters?
>
> Grandpas 7 year old daughters?
Keep Kennie's parentage out of this. :-D
>
> Moe > Speaking of which, has Lisa
> Moe > gotten HER daughter back?
>
> You tell me!
You live with her, sad to say. She in her stupidity chose to house
your worthless hide rather than kick you out with your junk and try
to regain custody of her daughter.
I feel sympathy for the daughter. When she realizes her mother
prefers a child abuser scum to her own flesh and blood, that has to
leave psychic scars, not to mention anger at Lisa.
>
> G > Your explanation of what a Script Kiddy is
> G > was not too bad,
Once again you misspell something. Its KIDDIE, you idiot.
>
> Moe > Particularly since you didn't know it
> Moe > and have';t used the term until
> Moe > AFTER I said what it means.
>
> Short attention span?
Yes you seem to have that.
> You ""defined"" it because I used it.
> And got it wrong.
I know what a script kiddie is, Greg. It is YOU who is trying to make
it fit your twisted version of Dave. Assuming the claims about Moore
being so savvy in computer languages is correct, he would not need to
download a proggie ( which is what a script kiddie does).
Not that it matters, but the term script kiddie is a derrogatory term
used by qualified hackers to refer to in essence lazy idiots who think
they can just grab a proggie and act like they know the same as
experienced hackers do. Script kiddies soon find out how stupid they
are when their computers suddenly seriously mess up.
>
> Moe > It wouldn't surprise me that you
> Moe > thought " script kiddie" was child
> Moe > porn, seeing as you like that
> Moe > disgusting stuff so much.
>
> You are the one who blurred the two.
> Kent explained TOR to you all wrong! LOL
> Come on Moe, get REALLY nasty!
Actually if you look at the WIKI definition of TOR, it does say that
it is used by child porn creeps to share files and hide behind.
>
> G > except you apparently didn't
> G > know that was EXACTLY what Dave does!
>
> Moe > Nor do I care Greg, but DO tell us how
> Moe > your obsession with Dave is
> Moe > such that you know ALL about him.
>
> He IS a SCRIPT KIDDY!
So you claim, BTW learn to spell the term right.
I seriously doubt anyone who actually knows certain computer
languages and is involved in IT would be so sloppy as do a script
kiddie. But since you don't know squat about the subject ( as usual)
that doesn't prevent you from mouthing off in your erroneous belief
that you " have" something on another person.
But hey, Greg. keep it up. I like watching you make an ass out of
yourself.
> He fits the definition you posted!
No he doesn't.
>
> Moe > Go ahead and prove how much
> Moe > of an obsessive stalker you are.
>
> You forgot to call me fat.
The photo of you I saw shows you not to be fat, probably because of
your drug use. I can hardly mistake you for your master Kennie.
For one, you are waaay stupider than he is, which is a low standard
as it is.
>
> G > When you said that Kent described TOR as
> G > file sharing software for child porn freaks,
> G > that was freaking HILARIOUS!
>
> Moe > Because you mentioned it
> -------------------------
> Moe > Particularly since you didn't know it
> Moe > and have';t used the term until
> Moe > AFTER I said what it means.
> ------------------------
> Moe > and it brought into question the
> Moe > possibility YOU know about it
> Moe > because you collect child porn.
>
> Don't you think it might be just a bit TOO EASY to
> pretend that your opponents are REALLY EVIL?
Have I ever said my " opponents" are "evil" greg?
Now I despise child molesters, women abusers, rapists, misogynists
and other low life scum. Actual human evil, such as psychopaths like
John Wayne Gacy showed, is fortunately rare.
But if you are inferring that I think you are evil, sorry, I just
think you are scum.
>
> Moe > The question still remains, Why do YOU
> Moe > know about the TOR-child porn angle?
>
> YOU'RE the one who claimed that connection!
The Wikipedia definition of TOR includes the fact that child porn
users use it to hide behind.
You abused and had inappropriate physical contact with a seven year
old girl.
Why YOU would know about it is not hard to conclude.
>
> G > Did you notice that Davey has not rushed
> G > to explain it to you? LOL
>
> Moe > Unlike you, Dave has a life, and your
> Moe > response to me was barely three
> Moe > hours apart from when I posted.
>
> So?
And it flies right over the idiot's skull.......
Jeez, you ARE that stupid!!
>
> Moe > You HAVE heard of people living outside of the internet, haven't
> you?
>
> How is Frank doing anyway?
> How long did he keep that collector car?
>
> Moe > Since you don't have a job and mooch off of Lisa,
> Moe > you obviously don't interact much with the outside
> Moe > world. Like your master Kennie doesn't, but in
> Moe > HIS case he can't because he can't fake being "
> Moe > normal" for very long.
> Moe >
> Moe > "ParK!! PARK!!! PARK!!!"
>
> You're a misfit who can't get a date with either gender.
While you abuse women and sexually molest seven year old girls.
>
> Who is that kid in that photo with you?
That's not a photo of me, idiot.
You missed again.
womanGoddess
> "Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:135fd21b-a880-4207...@k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Who is that kid in that photo with you?
>
> grag hanson of Cedar Rapids, Iowa, has targeted another kid.
He thinks since he is sexually interested in children other people
are as well.
Greegor
G > was not too bad,
Moe > Once again you misspell something. Its KIDDIE, you idiot.
LOL
>
>
>
> > Moe > Particularly since you didn't know it
> > Moe > and have';t used the term until
> > Moe > AFTER I said what it means.
>
> > Short attention span?
>
> Yes you seem to have that.
>
> > You ""defined"" it because I used it.
> > And got it wrong.
>
> I know what a script kiddie is, Greg. It is YOU who is trying to make
> it fit your twisted version of Dave. Assuming the claims about Moore
> being so savvy in computer languages
Who made such claims?
> is correct, he would not need to download a proggie
> ( which is what a script kiddie does).
You still haven't said what TOR is.
> Not that it matters, but the term script kiddie is a derrogatory
<sp>
> term
> used by qualified hackers to refer to in essence lazy idiots who think
> they can just grab a proggie and act like they know the same as
> experienced hackers do. Script kiddies soon find out how stupid they
> are when their computers suddenly seriously mess up.
> > Moe > It wouldn't surprise me that you
> > Moe > thought " script kiddie" was child
> > Moe > porn, seeing as you like that
> > Moe > disgusting stuff so much.
>
> > You are the one who blurred the two.
> > Kent explained TOR to you all wrong! LOL
> > Come on Moe, get REALLY nasty!
Moe > Actually if you look at the WIKI definition
Moe > of TOR, it does say that it is used by
Moe > child porn creeps to share files and hide behind.
You're still not saying what TOR actually is.
Still think it's file sharing software?
Has Dave acknowledged using it yet?
G > except you apparently didn't
G > know that was EXACTLY what Dave does!
Moe > Nor do I care Greg, but DO tell us how
Moe > your obsession with Dave is
Moe > such that you know ALL about him.
G > He IS a SCRIPT KIDDY!
Moe > So you claim, BTW learn to spell the term right.
> I seriously doubt anyone who actually knows certain computer
> languages and is involved in IT would be so sloppy as do a script
> kiddie. But since you don't know squat about the subject ( as usual)
> that doesn't prevent you from mouthing off in your erroneous belief
> that you " have" something on another person.
You still haven't said what TOR actually is and
you paraphrased Kent Wills as saying that it is
file sharing software.
You just don't WANT to say what it actually is, do you? LOL
Moe > But hey, Greg. keep it up. I like watching you
Moe > make an ass out of yourself.
G > He fits the definition you posted!
Moe > No he doesn't.
Define TOR and describe how it's set up!
Duh!
Moe > Go ahead and prove how much
Moe > of an obsessive stalker you are.
G > You forgot to call me fat.
Moe > The photo of you I saw
Liar.
Moe > shows you not to be fat, probably
Moe > because of your drug use.
Liar.
Moe > I can hardly mistake you for your master Kennie.
Moe > For one, you are waaay stupider than he
Moe > is, which is a low standard as it is.
G > When you said that Kent described TOR as
G > file sharing software for child porn freaks,
G > that was freaking HILARIOUS!
Moe > Because you mentioned it
> -------------------------
Moe > Particularly since you didn't know it
Moe > and have';t used the term until
Moe > AFTER I said what it means.
> ------------------------
Moe > and it brought into question the
Moe > possibility YOU know about it
Moe > because you collect child porn.
G > Don't you think it might be just a bit TOO EASY to
G > pretend that your opponents are REALLY EVIL?
Moe > Have I ever said my " opponents" are "evil" greg?
Moe > Now I despise child molesters, women abusers,
Moe > rapists, misogynists and other low life scum.
Even if you have to fictionalize or exaggerate to label them.
Moe > Actual human evil, such as psychopaths like
Moe > John Wayne Gacy showed, is fortunately rare.
Moe > But if you are inferring that I think you are evil,
Moe > sorry, I just think you are scum.
Which in your mind justifies telling the lies you do.
AND trying to covering up actual criminal
FELONIES for your friend Kent.
Moe > The question still remains, Why do YOU
Moe > know about the TOR-child porn angle?
G > YOU'RE the one who claimed that connection!
Moe > The Wikipedia definition of TOR includes
Moe > the fact that child porn users use it to hide behind.
Does Wiki say it's file sharing software as
Kent told you and you parroted publicly?
Moe > You abused and had inappropriate physical
Moe > contact with a seven year old girl.
Because YOU said so?
Moe > Why YOU would know about it is not hard to conclude.
You're just pissed because you found out
that your lies for Kent didn't work.
And you ARE a misfit who can't get a date with either gender.
G > Did you notice that Davey has not rushed
G > to explain it to you? LOL
Moe > Unlike you, Dave has a life, and your
Moe > response to me was barely three
Moe > hours apart from when I posted.
G > So?
Moe > And it flies right over the idiot's skull.......
Moe > Jeez, you ARE that stupid!!
You keep making ""accusations"" that even
if true are of basically NO CONSEQUENCE.
Moe > You HAVE heard of people living outside
Moe > of the internet, haven't you?
G > How is Frank doing anyway?
G > How long did he keep that collector car?
Moe > Since you don't have a job and mooch off of Lisa,
Moe > you obviously don't interact much with the outside
Moe > world. Like your master Kennie doesn't, but in
Moe > HIS case he can't because he can't fake being "
Moe > normal" for very long.
Moe >
Moe > "ParK!! PARK!!! PARK!!!"
G > You're a misfit who can't get a date with either gender.
Moe > While you abuse women and sexually
Moe > molest seven year old girls.
Do you feel abused, Moe?
Or do you feel like you're 7 years old?
G > Who is that kid in that photo with you?
Moe > That's not a photo of me, idiot.
Moe > You missed again.
You lack credibility.
You lied for Kent repeatedly.
Kent Wills
<gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Moe > It wouldn't surprise me that you
>> > Moe > thought " script kiddie" was child
>> > Moe > porn, seeing as you like that
>> > Moe > disgusting stuff so much.
>>
>> > You are the one who blurred the two.
>> > Kent explained TOR to you all wrong! =A0 =A0LOL
>> > Come on Moe, get REALLY nasty!
>
>Moe > Actually if you look at the WIKI definition
>Moe > of TOR, it does say that it is used by
>Moe > child porn creeps to share files and hide behind.
>
>You're still not saying what TOR actually is.
>Still think it's file sharing software?
>
>Has Dave acknowledged using it yet?
He's made no claim either way.
Before you made it clear you are familiar with the latest means
by which pedophiles hide while they exchange their child pornography,
I hadn't made a claim either way. I wasn't aware it existed. It's
possible he didn't either. Only he would know for certain, of course.
>
>
>> =A0I seriously doubt anyone who actually knows certain computer
>> languages and is involved in IT would be so sloppy as do a script
>> kiddie. But =A0since you don't know squat about the subject ( as usual)
>> that doesn't prevent you from mouthing off in your erroneous belief
>> that you " have" something on another person.
>
>You still haven't said what TOR actually is and
>you paraphrased Kent Wills as saying that it is
>file sharing software.
>
Above Moe makes it clear it's a means to hide oneself.
I've never claimed it's file sharing software.
>You just don't WANT to say what it actually is, do you? LOL
It a means by which people can send and receive files while
remaining hidden.
If reports are correct, it's very popular with people who have
sexual desires for children.
I can't KNOW, of course, but I wouldn't be surprised if you make
use of it a great deal.
>
>Moe > But hey, Greg. keep it up. I like watching you
>Moe > make an ass out of yourself.
>
>G > He fits the definition you posted!
>
>Moe > =A0No he doesn't.
>
>Define TOR and describe how it's set up!
>
>Duh!
What would that have to do with David?
>
>Moe > Go ahead and prove how much
>Moe > of an obsessive stalker you are.
>
>G > You forgot to call me fat.
>
>Moe > The photo of you I saw
>
>Liar.
By your own standards, you've admitted it is a picture of you and
Dennis.
>
>Moe > shows you not to be fat, probably
>Moe > because of your drug use.
>
>Liar.
Do you use and abuse illegal drugs that make you eat a great
deal?
>
>Moe > I can hardly mistake you for your master Kennie.
>
>Moe > For one, you are waaay stupider than he
>Moe > is, which is a low standard as it is.
>
>G > When you said that Kent described TOR as
>G > file sharing software for child porn freaks,
>G > that was freaking HILARIOUS!
>
>Moe > Because you mentioned it
>> -------------------------
>Moe > =A0Particularly since you didn't know it
>Moe > and have';t used the term until
>Moe > AFTER I said what it means.
>> ------------------------
>Moe > and it brought into question the
>Moe > possibility YOU know about it
>Moe > because you collect child porn.
>
>G > Don't you think it might be just a bit TOO EASY to
>G > pretend that your opponents are REALLY EVIL?
>
>Moe > Have I ever said my " opponents" are "evil" greg?
>
>Moe > Now I despise child molesters, women abusers,
>Moe > rapists, misogynists and other low life scum.
>
>Even if you have to fictionalize or exaggerate to label them.
>
Cite one time she's done so. Just one is all I ask.
Be prepared to have any lie(s) exposed.
>Moe > =A0Actual human evil, such as psychopaths like
>Moe > John Wayne Gacy showed, is fortunately rare.
>
>Moe > But if you are inferring that I think you are evil,
>Moe > sorry, I just think you are scum.
>
>Which in your mind justifies telling the lies you do.
Where has she lied?
>
>AND trying to covering up actual criminal
>FELONIES for your friend Kent.
You already admitted I'm not Kent Wills. Unless you lied, you
said the information is about the other Kent Wills.
Since my name in real life isn't Kent, that was obvious from the
beginning.
>
>Moe > The question still remains, Why do YOU
>Moe > know about the TOR-child porn angle?
>
>G > YOU'RE the one who claimed that connection!
>
>Moe > The Wikipedia definition of TOR includes
>Moe > the fact that child porn users use it to hide behind.
>
>Does Wiki say it's file sharing software as
>Kent told you and you parroted publicly?
I told her no such thing.
>
>Moe > You abused and had inappropriate physical
>Moe > contact with a seven year old girl.
>
>Because YOU said so?
Because YOU said so, Greg.
>
>Moe > Why YOU would know about it is not hard to conclude.
>
>You're just pissed because you found out
>that your lies for Kent didn't work.
What lies?
>
>And you ARE a misfit who can't get a date with either gender.
>
You already admitted your claim is a lie.
>G > Did you notice that Davey has not rushed
>G > to explain it to you? =A0LOL
>
>Moe > Unlike you, Dave has a life, and your
>Moe > response to me was barely three
>Moe > hours apart from when I posted.
>
>G > So?
>
>Moe > And it flies right over the idiot's skull.......
>Moe > Jeez, you ARE that stupid!!
>
>You keep making ""accusations"" that even
>if true are of basically NO CONSEQUENCE.
FYI: Double quotations mean nothing. I even asked an ESL
teacher, just as you suggested. It means nothing at all.
>
>Moe > You HAVE heard of people living outside
>Moe > of the internet, haven't you?
>
>G > How is Frank doing anyway?
>G > How long did he keep that collector car?
>
>Moe > Since you don't have a job and mooch off of Lisa,
>Moe > you obviously don't interact much with the outside
>Moe > world. Like your master Kennie doesn't, but in
>Moe > HIS case he can't because he can't fake being "
>Moe > normal" for very long.
>Moe >
>Moe > "ParK!! PARK!!! PARK!!!"
>
>G > You're a misfit who can't get a date with either gender.
>
>Moe > =A0While you abuse women and sexually
>Moe > molest seven year old girls.
>
>Do you feel abused, Moe?
>Or do you feel like you're 7 years old?
So you admit you're trying to abuse Moe.
I'm a bit surprised that you're admitting it, but given how you
are a predator, well, everyone could see you trying from day one.
>
>
>G > Who is that kid in that photo with you?
>
>Moe >=A0That's not a photo of me, idiot.
>Moe >=A0You missed again.
>
>You lack credibility.
>You lied for Kent repeatedly.
Cite one lie. Just one.
Be prepared to have your own lie(s) exposed.
If you would rather admit that your use and abuse of illegal
drugs has you so messed up you can't help but lie about Moe, feel free
to disregard my request for a cite.
I see you're still using and abusing illegal drugs. You freely
admitted your stalking (by the very definition you posted to accuse
others of stalking you) of the members of alt.friends was and is due
to your use and abuse of illegal drugs.
Whereas you're still stalking, you must still be using and abusing
illegal drugs.
Get the help you need, Greg.
krp
"Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ovpnf5h75g5104tfd...@4ax.com...
>>>>> Moe did say she had a younger man, but that's sick.
>>>>> Maybe there SHOULD be an investigation into
>>>>> who that boy is, if he is underage.
>>>>> Moe posted the photo online.
>>>>
>>>>A) That is not a photo of me, no matter what you try to claim.I never
>>>>posted that photo.
>>>
>>> Greg is UNABLE to accept that simple truth. His mind really is
>>> so messed up from the use and abuse of illegal drugs he's admitted,
>>> that he really does believe that everyone with the same first name are
>>> all the same person.
>>
>>
>> This coming from a guy who THINKS he has posted PROOF of his claims,
>> but
>>when nobody agrees claims he posted them in INVISIBLE INK!
>
> That you were so drunk when you read my post that you couldn't
> understand is your issue to address.
Still ducking the request to CITE THIS WAVE OF NEW LAWS on copyright
laws that CHANGES the Fair Use Doctrine. We KNOW when you are LYING, Kunt,
you begin by claiming you already posted it. Show us the LAWS that YOU claim
(Attorney Wills) that "OVERRULES" the decision on the Fair Use Doctrine by
the U.S. Supreme Court. I'll keep asking, you'll keep LYING and claiming you
have posted them, and I'll keep calling you a FUKKKKIN LIAR! Got it POLACK!
if ya got it, POST IT! If you don't and you are just lying your ass off,
claim again that you have already posted it.
Greegor
used teen as accomplice
Kent's Appeal
IN PRINTED LAW BOOKS
West's North Western Reporter
Second Series
A Unit of the National Reporter System
Volume 696 N.W.2d
Cite as 696 N.W.2d 20 (Iowa 2005)
Kent's Appeal
http://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/states/Iowa/04-0202.asp.html
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=ia&vol=sc%5C20050506%5C04-0202&invol=1
http://www.doc.state.ia.us/InmateInfo.asp?OffenderCd=1155768
http://www.assess.co.polk.ia.us/cgi-bin/seephoto/photosize.cgi?gp=802415452029&size=Large
Notice that KENT made claims re sale of 202 NW College apartment
building
That's geoparcel gp=802415452029
http://www.iowacourts.state.ia.us/
( Step by step instructions elsewhere with name Kent B Wills )
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http://www.rogersgis.com/zoom/Residential_Development/indexfull.htm
http://www.arcountydata.com/county.asp?county=Benton
TWO of Kent Wills' usenet newsgroup identities:
Do It Yourself Instructions to look up Kent's record
Iowa Department of Corrections records for Kent
http://www.doc.state.ia.us/InmateInfo.asp?OffenderCd=1155768
Name Kent Bradley Wills [ As Collected Sept 13, 2009 ]
Offender Number 1155768
Sex M
Birth Date 01/08/1969
Age 40
Location
Offense
County Of Commitment
Commitment Date
Duration
TDD/SDD *
* TDD = Tentative Discharge Date
* SDD = Supervision Discharge Date
Supervision Status Offense Class County of Commitment End Date
Probation Aggravated Misdemeanor Polk 12/16/2008
Probation C Felony Polk 12/16/2008
Supervision Status Offense Class County of Commitment End Date
Probation Aggravated Misdemeanor Polk 11/25/2003
IN PRINTED LAW BOOKS
West's North Western Reporter
Second Series
A Unit of the National Reporter System
Volume 696 N.W.2d
Cite as 696 N.W.2d 20 (Iowa 2005)
Kent's Appeal
http://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/states/Iowa/04-0202.asp.html
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IN THE SUPREME COURT OF IOWA
No. 31 / 04-0202
Filed May 6, 2005
STATE OF IOWA,
Appellee,
vs.
KENT BRADLEY WILLS,
Appellant.
Appeal from the Iowa District Court for Polk
County, Michael D. Huppert, Judge.
Defendant appeals claiming ineffective
assistance of counsel. AFFIRMED.
Linda Del Gallo, State Appellate Defender,
and Tricia Johnston, Assistant State
Appellate Defender, for appellant.
Thomas J. Miller, Attorney General, Kevin
Cmelik, Assistant Attorney General, John P.
Sarcone, County Attorney, and John Judisch,
Assistant County Attorney, for appellee.
WIGGINS, Justice.
Kent Wills appeals his conviction for
second-degree burglary contending that
an attached garage is a separate occupied
structure from that of the living quarters
of the residence. In this appeal, we must
determine whether trial counsel was
ineffective for (1) failing to move for
judgment of acquittal on the basis there
was insufficient evidence to convict Wills
of second-degree burglary when he entered
an attached garage of a residence when no
persons were present in the garage, but
when persons were present in the living
quarters; and (2) failing to object to a
jury instruction based on this same
argument. Because we find there was no
legal basis for the motion for judgment
of acquittal or the objection to the jury
instruction, Wills' trial counsel was not
ineffective. Accordingly, we affirm the
judgment of the district court.
I. Background Facts and Proceedings.
Around 1 a.m., an Ankeny resident called
the local police to report that a car
alarm sounded in the resident's
neighborhood. The city dispatched a police
officer to the location. Observing nothing
unusual, the officer left the area, only
to be stopped a couple of blocks later
by a person who informed the officer he
had witnessed someone running from the
area of the car alarm. As the officer
started driving back to the area of the
car alarm, he noticed a person walking
on the sidewalk. The officer asked the
person, a minor, if he had noticed anybody
running from the area. The minor answered
that he had not. While the officer and
another officer were speaking to the minor,
another resident of the neighborhood
arrived in her car and informed the
officers that she had observed two people,
one of whom was heavy set with a blinking
light on his back pocket, walking in the
area of her neighbor's residence. She
observed the heavier-set individual, later
identified as Wills, enter her neighbor's
attached garage through an unlocked service
door. She further observed a smaller
individual standing by a van parked in
the neighbor's driveway.
The officers eventually let the minor leave
even though they found a large amount of
coins, a flashlight, and an electronic
pocket organizer in his pockets. After
releasing the minor, the police officers
drove to the residence where the neighbor
observed the two suspicious people and
woke the owner. The owner, his wife,
and two daughters were in the residence
sleeping at the time. After a search
of his vehicles, the owner discovered
change and an electronic pocket organizer
were missing from the vehicles. The
owner's daughter reported a diamond ring
and some change were missing from her
vehicle. The officers then contacted
the minor's parents, who informed the
officers the minor was with Wills. After
the officers questioned the minor again,
he admitted his involvement in the theft
and implicated Wills in the burglary.
Although Wills denied involvement in the
burglary, the officers arrested him.
The State filed a trial information
charging Wills with second-degree
burglary. The State later amended the
information to include two additional
charges of burglary in the third degree
and using a juvenile to commit an
indictable offense.
The jury returned a verdict finding Wills
guilty of the crimes of burglary in the
second degree, burglary in the third
degree, and using a juvenile to commit
an indictable offense. Wills appeals his
conviction for second-degree burglary
claiming ineffective assistance of
counsel.
II. Scope of Review.
Claims of ineffective assistance of counsel
are derived from the Sixth Amendment of the
United States Constitution. Strickland v.
Washington, 466 U.S. 668, 684-86, 104 S.
Ct. 2052, 2063-64, 80 L. Ed. 2d 674, 691-93
(1984). Our review for a claim involving
violations of the Constitution is de novo.
State v. Fintel, 689 N.W.2d 95, 100
(Iowa 2004). We normally preserve
ineffective-assistance-of-counsel claims
for postconviction relief actions. State
v. Carter, 602 N.W. 2d 818, 820 (Iowa 1999).
However, we will address such claims on
direct appeal when the record is sufficient
to permit a ruling. State v. Artzer,
609 N.W.2d 526, 531 (Iowa 2000). The
appellate record in the present case is
sufficient to allow us to address Wills'
ineffective-assistance-of-counsel claims
on direct appeal.
In order for a defendant to succeed on a
claim of ineffective assistance of counsel,
the defendant must prove: (1) counsel
failed to perform an essential duty and
(2) prejudice resulted. Id. Prejudice
results when "there is a reasonable
probability that, but for the counsel's
unprofessional errors, the result of the
proceeding would have been different."
State v. Hopkins, 576 N.W.2d 374, 378
(Iowa 1998) (quoting Strickland, 466
U.S. at 694, 104 S. Ct. at 2068,
80 L. Ed. 2d at 698). Wills' arguments
also raise issues of statutory
interpretation, which we review for
correction of errors at law. State v.
Wolford Corp., 689 N.W.2d 471, 473 (Iowa 2004).
III. Analysis.
To find Wills guilty of burglary in the
second degree, the State had to prove
Wills perpetrated a burglary "in or
upon an occupied structure in which one
or more persons are present . . . ." Iowa
Code § 713.5(2) (2003) (emphasis added).
In this appeal, Wills first contends his
trial counsel was ineffective for failing
to move for a judgment of acquittal on
the basis there was insufficient evidence
to support a finding that at the time Wills
entered the garage, there were persons
present in or upon the occupied structure.
Wills concedes the garage was an occupied
structure, but argues the living quarters
and the attached garage are separate and
independent occupied structures; therefore,
the jury could not have found there were
people present in the attached garage
at the time of the burglary.
The Code defines an "occupied structure" as:
[A]ny building, structure, appurtenances
to buildings and structures, land, water
or air vehicle, or similar place adapted
for overnight accommodation of persons,
or occupied by persons for the purpose of
carrying on business or other activity
therein, or for the storage or safekeeping
of anything of value. Such a structure
is an "occupied structure" whether or not
a person is actually present.
Id. § 702.12.
Wills relies on State v. Smothers, 590
N.W.2d 721 (Iowa 1999), to argue the
garage and the living quarters are separate
and independent occupied structures. In
Smothers, two separate and distinct
businesses connected by interior fire doors
were operated in the same structure.
590 N.W.2d at 723. We held the defendant
committed two burglaries by entering each
business because "[t]he facility's
construction history and physical make-up
demonstrate that the portions are
independent working units which constitute
'[a] combination of materials to form a
construction for occupancy [or] use.'" Id.
Smothers is not at odds with the present
case because the living quarters and the
garage are not separate or independent
units of the residence.
Our review of the record reveals the garage
in question was a three-car attached garage
separated from the living quarters by a
door. The same roof covered the garage as
the rest of the residence. The living
quarters surrounded the garage on two sides.
It was structurally no different from any
other room in the residence.
The garage was a functional part of the
residence. On the night of the incident,
the door was unlocked. The owner of the
residence used two stalls in the garage to
park the family vehicles. The owner used
the third stall for his motorcycle. As
such, the garage and the living quarters
are a single "structure" or "building"
functioning as an integral part of the
family residence. Thus, the residence
including the garage is a single
"occupied structure" under section 702.12.
See, e.g., People v. Ingram, 48 Cal. Rptr.
2d 256 (Ct. App.1995) (holding defendant's
entry into an attached garage constituted
first-degree burglary because the garage
was attached to the house; therefore,
burglary of the garage was burglary of
an inhabited dwelling house); People v.
Cunningham, 637 N.E.2d 1247, 1252 (Ill.
App. Ct. 1994) (holding "ordinarily an
attached garage is a 'dwelling' because
it is part of the structure in which
the owner or occupant lives");
State v. Lara, 587 P.2d 52, 53
(N.M. Ct. App. 1978) (holding "burglary
of the [attached] garage was burglary of
the dwelling house because the garage was
a part of the structure used as living
quarters"); People v. Green, 141 A.D.2d
760, 761 (N.Y. App. Div. 1988) (holding
"[s]ince the garage in the present case
was structurally part of a building
which was used for overnight lodging of
various persons, it must be considered
as part of a dwelling"); White v. State,
630 S.W. 2d 340, 342 (Tex. Ct. App. 1982)
(holding an attached garage under the
same roof as the home would be considered
a habitation within the purview of the
penal code because the garage is a
structure appurtenant to and connected
to the house); State v. Murbach, 843 P.
2d 551, 553 (Wash. Ct. App 1993)
(holding the definition of a dwelling
under Washington's burglary statute
included an attached garage).
Had Wills' trial counsel moved for a
judgment of acquittal on the basis there
was insufficient evidence to support
a finding that at the time Wills
entered the garage there were no persons
present in or upon the occupied
structure, it would have been overruled
by the court because the owner and his
family were present in the residence at
the time of the burglary.
Wills also claims his counsel was
ineffective for failing to object to
the jury instruction used by the district
court on the same ground; that the
living quarters were a separate and
independent occupied structure from the
attached garage. The instruction as
given stated:
The State must prove all of the following
elements of Burglary in the Second
Degree as to Count I:
1. On or about the 12th day of August,
2003, the defendant or someone he aided
and abetted broke into or entered the
residence at . . . .
2. The residence at . . . was an occupied
structure as defined in Instruction No. 29.
3. The defendant or the person he aided
and abetted did not have permission or
authority to break into the residence at ...
4. The defendant or the person he aided
and abetted did so with the specific
intent to commit a theft therein.
5. During the incident persons were present
in or upon the occupied structure.
If the State has proved all of the elements,
the defendant is guilty of Burglary in the
Second Degree. If the State has failed to prove
any of the elements, the defendant is not
guilty of Burglary in the Second Degree and
you will then consider the charge of
Attempted Burglary in the Second Degree
explained in Instruction No. 21.
(Emphasis added.)
Wills' claim is without merit. As we have
discussed, the residence is the one and
only "occupied structure" under the facts
of this case. Had Wills' trial counsel
made this objection to the instruction,
it would have been overruled.
Therefore, Wills' trial counsel is not
ineffective for failing to move
for a judgment of acquittal or objecting
to the instruction because there was no
legal basis for the motion or objection.
See State v. Hochmuth, 585 N.W.2d 234,
238 (Iowa 1998) (holding trial counsel was
not ineffective for failing to raise an
issue that has no merit).
IV. Disposition.
We affirm the judgment of the district
court because Wills' trial counsel was
not ineffective for failing to raise
meritless issues.
AFFIRMED.
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Pay close attention to past owners of 202 NW College Ave.
Kent made affirmative claims about the property online.
Kent's folks sold it in 1994 while Kent lived there!
On 03/30/1999 Sweeney's filed on Kent for UNPAID RENT!
GeoParcel 8024-15-452-029 District/Parcel 181/00392-048-000
[ As Collected Sept 13, 2009 ]
Seller: WILLS, FRED A. & JANET R.
Buyer: THE SWEENEY REVOCABLE GRANTOR TRUST
04/26/1994 135,000 D/Deed 7010/188
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Seller: SHELDAHL, ERIC A.
Buyer: WILLS, FRED
01/02/1990 130,500 D/Deed 6189/972
A Larger photo:
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Notice that name SWEENEY above?
Check this out!
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02401 ESPR015146 INA J WILLS ESTATE
05771 FECR145250 STATE VS KENT 01/08/1969
05771 FECR176876 STATE VS KENT 01/08/1969
05771 SCSC310505 SWEENEY RENTALS VS KENT ******
05771 SCSC335210 CITI FINANCIAL VS KENT
05771 SCSC374163 SFI F SCHERLE PRES VS KENT
05771 SCSC374164 SFI F SCHERLE III PRES VS KENT
05771 STAN201670 IOWA vs [ KENT ] 01/08/1969
05771 STAN210929 IOWA vs [ KENT ] 01/08/1969
05771 SWCR177169 STATE VS KENT 01/08/1969
A list of case numbers will be presented.
Click on the SWEENEY case, 4th one down.
Under the "Filings" tab:
JUDGEMENT DEFAULT BRANDT GREGORY D 08/25/1999 09/01/1999 09/01/1999
Comments: $156.25 7.244% FROM 03/30/99
COMPUTER GENERATED NOTICE 05/11/1999 05/11/1999 05/11/1999
Comments: Notice of Proof of Claim
RETURN OF ORIGINAL NOTICE 04/21/1999 04/23/1999 04/23/1999
Comments: 4/10/99 KENT PERS
37.60
VERIFICATION OF ACCT HAS BEEN FILED 03/30/1999 03/30/1999
03/30/1999
SMALL CLAIMS ORIGINAL NOTICE SWEENEY RENTALS 03/30/1999 03/30/1999
03/30/1999
Comments: UNPAID RENT
Under the "Financial" Tab:
Summary Orig Paid Due
COSTS 98.60 31.00 67.60
FINE 0.00 0.00 0.00
SURCHARGE 0.00 0.00 0.00
RESTITUTION 0.00 0.00 0.00
OTHER 238.46 0.00 238.46
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$337.06 $31.00 $306.06
SUPPORT/ALIMONY N/A 0.00 N/A
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Kent's 2000 Felony, first of TWO in Iowa
WILLS, KENT BRADLEY 05771 FECR145250 (POLK)
01/24/2000 Offense Date THEFT 2ND DEGREE - 1978 (FELD) WITHDRAWN
01/24/2000 Offense Date THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
03/07/2000 DEFERRED JUDGMENT (At that time) Sentence: 365 Day(s)
03/07/2000 PROBATION INFORMAL; 8/07/01-TRNFRD TO FORMAL 365 Day(s)
03/07/2000 COMMUNITY SERVICE 50 Hour(s)
03/07/2000 REFERRED TO OTHER AGENCY 1ST TIME OFFENDER CLASS
08/07/2001 JAIL PROB HRG 11 Day(s)
08/07/2001 JAIL PROB HRG 11 Day(s) TIME SERVED
08/07/2001 PROBATION EXTENDED PROB HRG
04/16/2002 PROBATION EXTENDED TO 08/06/03
04/16/2002 IMPOSED 7 Day(s)
04/16/2002 OTHER/MISCELLANEOUS PROB HRG 6 Day(s)
04/16/2002 DETENTION PROB HRG 6 Day(s)
08/07/2003 PRIOR ORDERS CONTINUED PROB EXTENDED UNTIL 8-06-04
11/26/2003 REVOKED PROB HRG; PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; JAIL
11/26/2003 PLACEMENT HRG PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; JAIL120 Day(s)
11/26/2003 SUSPEND PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; TIME SERVED 106 Day(s)
11/26/2003 COMMUNITY CORR PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; JAIL 14 Day(s)
( When Kent's second Felony revoked the rest of his Probation.)
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02401 ESPR015146 INA J WILLS ESTATE
05771 FECR145250 STATE VS KENT 01/08/1969
05771 FECR176876 STATE VS KENT 01/08/1969
05771 SCSC310505 SWEENEY RENTALS VS KENT ******
05771 SCSC335210 CITI FINANCIAL VS KENT
05771 SCSC374163 SFI F SCHERLE PRES VS KENT
05771 SCSC374164 SFI F SCHERLE III PRES VS KENT
05771 STAN201670 IOWA vs [ KENT ] 01/08/1969
05771 STAN210929 IOWA vs [ KENT ] 01/08/1969
05771 SWCR177169 STATE VS KENT 01/08/1969
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Under the "[Criminal Charges/Disposition]" tab:
Charges, Dispositions, Sentences
Title: STATE VS KENT B WILLS
Case: 05771 FECR145250 (POLK)
Citation Number:
Defendant: WILLS, KENT BRADLEY
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Count 01 Charge
Charge:
714.2(2) Description: THEFT 2ND DEGREE - 1978 (FELD)
Offense Date: 01/24/2000 Arrest Date: Against Type:
DPS Number:
0386367-01
Adjudication
Charge:
714.2(2) Description: THEFT 2ND DEGREE - 1978 (FELD)
Adj.:
DNU-WITHDRAWN Adj.Date: 03/07/2000
Adj.Judge:
WILSON, ROBERT D
Comments: AMENDED TI FILED
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(2) Description: THEFT 2ND DEGREE - 1978 (FELD)
Sentence Date:
03/07/2000 Sentence: WITHDRAWN
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: WILSON, ROBERT D
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
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Count 02 Charge
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Offense Date: 01/24/2000 Arrest Date: Against Type:
DPS Number:
0386367-02
Adjudication
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Adj.:
DEFERRED Adj.Date: 03/07/2000
Adj.Judge:
WILSON, ROBERT D
Comments:
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
03/07/2000 Sentence: DEFERRED JUDGMENT
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: WILSON, ROBERT D
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 365 Day(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
03/07/2000 Sentence: PROBATION
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: WILSON, ROBERT D
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 365 Day(s)
Comment:
INFORMAL;8/07/01-TRNFRD TO FORMAL
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
03/07/2000 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: WILSON, ROBERT D
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 50 Hour(s)
Comment:
TO BE DETERMINED BY PROBATION
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
03/07/2000 Sentence: REFERRED TO OTHER AGENCY
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: WILSON, ROBERT D
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
1ST TIME OFFENDER CLASS
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
08/07/2001 Sentence: JAIL
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: JACOBS, LOUISE M
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 11 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
08/07/2001 Sentence: TIME SERVED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: JACOBS, LOUISE M
Facility Type:
J Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 11 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
08/07/2001 Sentence: PROBATION EXTENDED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: JACOBS, LOUISE M
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
PROB HRG-4/16/02-PROBATION EXTENDED TO 08/06/03
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
04/16/2002 Sentence: IMPOSED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: COPPOLA, CAROL L
Facility Type:
J Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 7 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
04/16/2002 Sentence: OTHER/MISCELLANEOUS
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: COPPOLA, CAROL L
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 6 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
04/16/2002 Sentence: DETENTION
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: COPPOLA, CAROL L
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 6 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
08/07/2003 Sentence: PRIOR ORDERS CONTINUED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: MCGHEE, ODELL
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
PROB EXTENDED UNTIL 8-06-04
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
11/26/2003 Sentence: REVOKED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: SMITH, JOE E
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
PROB HRG; PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; JAIL
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
11/26/2003 Sentence: PLACEMENT
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: SMITH, JOE E
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 120 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG; PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; JAIL
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
11/26/2003 Sentence: SUSPEND
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: SMITH, JOE E
Facility Type:
J Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 106 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG; PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; TIME SERVED
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
11/26/2003 Sentence: COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: SMITH, JOE E
Facility Type:
J Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 14 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG; PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; JAIL
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Charges, Dispositions, Sentences
Title: STATE VS KENT BRADLEY WILLS
Case: 05771 FECR176876 (POLK)
Citation Number:
Count 01
08/12/2003 Offense Date BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
12/17/2003 Adj.Date: GUILTY
01/16/2004 Sentence 10 Year(s) SUSPENDED PRISON
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION 2 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY FT DSM FACILITY-MAX
BENEFITS
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE 150 Hour(s)
12/17/2003 Sentence: JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/16/09
Count 02
08/12/2003 Offense BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR VEHICLE
(AGMS)
12/17/2003 GUILTY
01/16/2004 Sentence: PRISON Duration: 2 Year(s) SUSPENDED PRISON
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION Duration: 2 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY FT DSM FACILITY-MAX
BENEFITS
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE Duration: 150 Hour(s)
12/17/2003 Sentence: JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/06/09
Count 03
08/12/2003 USING JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE OFFENSE(FELC)709A.6
(2)
12/17/2003 GUILTY
01/16/2004 Sentence: PRISON Duration: 10 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: SUSPENDED PRISON 10 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION 2 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY FT DSM FACILITY-MAX
BENEFITS
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE 150 Hour(s)
12/17/2003 Sentence: JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/16/09
Charges, Dispositions, Sentences
Title: STATE VS KENT BRADLEY WILLS
Case: 05771 FECR176876 (POLK)
Citation Number:
Count 01 Charge
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Offense Date: 08/12/2003 Arrest Date: Against Type:
DPS Number:
0668408-01
Adjudication
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Adj.:
DNU-GUILTY Adj.Date: 12/17/2003
Adj.Judge:
HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Comments: GUILTY
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 10 Year(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: SUSPENDED PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 10 Year(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 2 Year(s)
Comment:
FORMAL
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Facility Type:
R Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
FT DSM FACILITY-MAX BENEFITS
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Facility Type:
R Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 150 Hour(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
12/17/2003 Sentence: PROBATION EXTENDED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/16/09
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Count 02 Charge
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Offense Date: 08/12/2003 Arrest Date: Against Type:
DPS Number:
0668408-02
Adjudication
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Adj.:
DNU-GUILTY Adj.Date: 12/17/2003
Adj.Judge:
HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Comments: GUILTY
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 2 Year(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: SUSPENDED PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 2 Year(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 2 Year(s)
Comment:
FORMAL
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
R Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
FT DSM FACILITY-MAX BENEFITS
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 150 Hour(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
12/17/2003 Sentence: PROBATION EXTENDED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/06/09
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Count 03 Charge
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Offense Date: 08/12/2003 Arrest Date: Against Type:
DPS Number:
0668408-03
Adjudication
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Adj.:
DNU-GUILTY Adj.Date: 12/17/2003
Adj.Judge:
HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Comments: GUILTY
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 10 Year(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: SUSPENDED PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 10 Year(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 2 Year(s)
Comment:
FORMAL
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
R Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
FT DSM FACILITY-MAX BENEFITS
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 150 Hour(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
12/17/2003 Sentence: PROBATION EXTENDED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/16/09
-------------------------------------
Filings
Title: STATE VS KENT BRADLEY WILLS
Case: 05771 FECR176876 (POLK)
ORDER OF DISCHARGE OVROM ELIZA 12/16/2008 12/16/2008 12/16/2008
Comments: FROM PROBATION
OTHER EVENT DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS 12/16/2008 12/16/2008
12/16/2008
Comments: FIELD DISCHARGE REPORT
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 12/16/2008 12/16/2008 12/16/2008
Comments: REVOCATION HEARING SET FOR 1/07/2009 IS CANCELLED
DEFENDANT HAS NOT PAID IN FULL FINANCIAL
OBLIGATIONS
ORDER FOR PROBATION REVOCATION HEARING MOISAN CYNTHIA M 12/05/2008
12/05/2008 12/05/2008
Comments: ON 1/7/09 AT 9:30AM RM204
PROBATION REVOCATION 12/05/2008 12/05/2008 12/05/2008
Comments: REPORT OF VIOLATIONS FILED BY JAN HORNOCKER
FORMAL PROBATION HUTCHISON ROBERT A 01/25/2006 01/26/2006
01/26/2006
Comments: EXTENDED TO 01/16/09 OR UNTIL CONDITIONS ARE MET
COURT ORDERED PAYMENT PLAN 01/13/2006 01/13/2006 01/13/2006
OTHER ORDER HUTCHISON ROBERT A 01/11/2006 01/13/2006 01/13/2006
Comments: DEFT'S PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09; DEFT TO
COMPLETE
CONDITIONS LISTED
OTHER EVENT 09/15/2005 09/15/2005 09/15/2005
Comments: THE SUPREME COURT RETURNED FILE, PSI, 4 TRANSCRIPTS,
AND 1 ENVELOPE OF EXHIBITS
OTHER EVENT APPELLATE DEFENDER'S OFFICE 06/09/2005 06/13/2005
06/13/2005
Comments: STATEMENT OF HOURS
15.9 HOURS = $795.00
ATTORNEY - GRETA TRUMAN
OTHER EVENT CLERK OF SUPREME COURT 06/02/2005 09/15/2005
09/15/2005
Comments: BILL OF COSTS
$27.50 TAXED AGAINST THE APPELLANT AND PAYABLE
TO
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
#04-0202
OTHER ORDER SUPREME COURT OF IOWA 06/02/2005 09/15/2005 09/15/2005
Comments: RE DEFT'S APPEAL CLAIMING INEFFECTIVE COUNSEL:
JUDGEMENT AFFIRMED
#04-0202
PROCEDENDO CLERK OF SUPREME COURT 06/02/2005 09/15/2005 09/15/2005
Comments: AFFIRMED
PROCEED W/DILIGENCE AS IF THERE HAD BEEN NO
APPEAL
#04-0202
COMMUNITY SERVICE 05/25/2004 05/27/2004 05/27/2004
Comments: 135 HRS COMPLETED 5/24/04
INDIGENT DEFENSE CLAIM FORM TAYLOR KAREN 05/11/2004 05/13/2004
05/13/2004
Comments: $1150
ELECTRONIC FILING
OTHER EVENT 04/26/2004 04/28/2004 04/28/2004
Comments: SUPREME COURT REC'D 1 FILE, 1 PSI ENVELOPE,
1 EXHIBIT(1 ENVELOPE DATED 1/21/04)
REC'D 4/20/04
OTHER ORDER NICKERSON DON 04/23/2004 04/27/2004 04/27/2004
Comments: THE BALANCE OF ATTNY FEE AND CC SHALL BE
CONVERTED TO 135 HRS COMM SERVICE
TO BE COMPLETED FROM FT DSM FACILITY
OR TRANSFER TO INTERSTATE COMPACT
COMMUNITY SERVICE 04/22/2004 04/23/2004 04/23/2004
Comments: 150 HRS COMPLETED
APRIL 8, 2004
OTHER EVENT 04/20/2004 04/20/2004 04/20/2004
Comments: RECD CHANGE OF ADDRESS FOR DEFT
OTHER EVENT 04/20/2004 04/20/2004 04/20/2004
Comments: FILE AND PSI SENT TO THE SUPREME COURT
ONE ENVELOPE OF EXHIBITS FILED 1/21/04
SENT TO THE SUPREME COURT
OTHER EVENT 04/19/2004 04/19/2004 04/19/2004
Comments: SUP CRT RECEIVED 2 TRANSCRIPTS OF PROCEEDINGS
FILED 4/1/04 (VOL I & II)
SUP CRT 04-202
OTHER EVENT 04/06/2004 05/18/2004 05/18/2004
Comments: 2 TRANSCRIPTS FILED 4/1/04 SENT TO THE
SUPREME COURT
DNU - COURT REPORTER TRANSCRIPT MAXEY REBECCA 04/01/2004 04/05/2004
04/05/2004
Comments: OF PROCEEDINGS ON 12/16/03
VOLUME II
DNU - COURT REPORTER TRANSCRIPT MAXEY REBECCA 04/01/2004 04/05/2004
04/05/2004
Comments: OF PROCEEDINGS ON 12/15/03
VOLUME I
OTHER EVENT 03/31/2004 03/31/2004 03/31/2004
Comments: EXHIBITS RETURNED
OTHER EVENT 03/31/2004 03/31/2004 03/31/2004
Comments: ENVELOPE OF EXHIBITS CHECKED OUT TO COURT
REPORTER R.M.
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 03/29/2004 03/31/2004 03/31/2004
Comments: MOTION IS GRANTED REGARDING REVIEW OF
PAYMENT OF COURT APPOINTED ATTY FEES AND
THE STATE PUBLIC DEFENDER IS ORDERED TO MAKE
PAYMENT AS REQUESTED.
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 03/29/2004 03/30/2004 03/31/2004
ENTERED IN ERROR
Comments: STATE PUBLIC DEFENDER SHALL MAKE PAYMENT AS
REQUESTED.
MOTION 03/18/2004 03/19/2004 03/19/2004
Comments: TO ENLARGE TIME FOR DOCKETING FILED BY
ASSISTANT APPELLATE DEFENDER
ORDER SETTING HEARING OVROM ELIZA 03/15/2004 03/16/2004 03/16/2004
Comments: ON MOTION TO REVIEW ACTION RE:PAYMENT OF
COURT APPOINTED ATTY.
3/29/04 8:15AM RM209A
MOTION 03/15/2004 03/16/2004 03/16/2004
Comments: FOR REVIEW OF ACTION REGARDING PAYMENT
OF COURT APPOINTED ATTORNEY FEES
FILED BY ATDF
OTHER EVENT 03/11/2004 03/11/2004 03/11/2004
Comments: SUPREME COURT RECVD 2 TRANSCRIPTS OF SENTENCING
ON 1/16/04 AND STATUS CONF ON 12/12/03 FILED
3/1/04
04-202
OTHER EVENT 03/09/2004 03/09/2004 03/09/2004
Comments: 2 TRANSCRIPTS FILED 3/1/04 SENT TO THE
SUPREME COURT
INDIGENT DEFENSE CLAIM FORM TAYLOR KAREN 03/09/2004 03/18/2004
03/18/2004
Comments: $1350.00 ELECTRONIC FILING
DNU - COURT REPORTER TRANSCRIPT HILGENBERG VIVIAN ROSE 03/01/2004
03/03/2004 03/03/2004
Comments: OF STATUS CONFERENCE ON 12/12/2003
DNU - COURT REPORTER TRANSCRIPT HILGENBERG VIVIAN ROSE 03/01/2004
03/03/2004 03/03/2004
Comments: OF SENTENCING ON 01/16/2004
OTHER EVENT APPELLATE DEFENDER'S OFFICE 02/26/2004 02/27/2004
02/27/2004
Comments: COMBINED CERTIFICATE
OTHER EVENT 02/24/2004 02/24/2004 02/24/2004
Comments: DOCKET ENTRIES RECEIVED BY SUPREME COURT
2-10-04; SUPREME COURT NUMBER 04-202
ORDER APPOINTING OVROM ELIZA 02/18/2004 02/19/2004 02/19/2004
Comments: ORDER GRANTING K TAYLOR TO W/D
APPELLATE COUNSEL IS APPT
OTHER APPLICATION 02/18/2004 02/19/2004 02/19/2004
Comments: TO WITHDRAW
OTHER EVENT 02/10/2004 02/10/2004 02/10/2004
Comments: DOCKET ENTRIES AND CERTIFIED COPY OF NOTICE
OF APPEAL SENT TO THE SUPREME COURT
OTHER EVENT TAYLOR KAREN A 02/09/2004 02/10/2004 02/10/2004
Comments: COURT APPOINTED BILLING
47 HOURS = $2500
OTHER EVENT TAYLOR KAREN 02/09/2004 02/10/2004 02/10/2004
ENTERED IN ERROR
Comments: COURT
NOTICE OF APPEAL TAYLOR KAREN A 02/06/2004 02/09/2004 02/09/2004
Comments: FILED BY ATDF
OTHER EVENT 01/23/2004 01/27/2004 01/27/2004
Comments: ADDENDUM TO PSI REPORT
EXHIBIT MAXEY REBECCA 01/21/2004 01/21/2004 01/21/2004
Comments: STATE'S EXHIBITS
1-$13.21; 2-$24.25 (IN VAULT); 3-LIGHT;
4&5-WRITTEN STATEMENT; 6,7,8-DIAGRAM
1 ENVELOPE & VAULT
OTHER EVENT 01/20/2004 01/26/2004 01/26/2004
Comments: VORP
VICTIM DOES NOT WANT TO VORP
NO RESTITUTION ISSUES AT THIS TIME
VICTIM DENNIS AND JAMIE WIEBEN
COURT ORDERED PAYMENT PLAN 01/20/2004 01/20/2004 01/20/2004
COURT ORDERED PAYMENT PLAN 01/16/2004 01/16/2004 01/16/2004
COURT REPORTER CERTIFICATE HILGENBERG VIVIAN ROSE 01/16/2004
01/20/2004 01/20/2004
Comments: $15.00
PRE SENTENCE INVESTIGATION REPORT PSI 01/16/2004 01/16/2004
01/16/2004
ORDER OF DISPOSITION OVROM ELIZA 01/16/2004 01/16/2004 01/16/2004
Comments: FOUND GUILTY BY JURY/PRISON-SUSPENDED; FORMAL
PROBATION; FT DSM FACILITY-MAX BENEFITS;
COMMUNITY SERVED; RESTITUTION-SUPP ORDER TO
FOLLOW; VORP; APPEAL BOND $13000 C/S
ORDER OF DISPOSITION OVROM ELIZA 01/16/2004 01/16/2004
01/16/2004
ENTERED IN ERROR
Comments: PLED GUILTY/PRISON-SUSPENDED; FORMAL
PROBATION; FT DSM FACILITY-MAX BENEFITS;
COMMUNITY SERVED; RESTITUTION-SUPP ORDER TO
FOLLOW; VORP; APPEAL BOND $13000 C/S
MITTIMUS TO STATE INSTITUTION WILLS KENT BRADLEY 01/16/2004
01/16/2004 01/16/2004
Comments: **FORT DES MOINES**
RETURN OF SERVICE - OTHER POLK COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE 12/23/2003
12/26/2003 12/26/2003
Comments: TRANSPORT COSTS $96.24
OTHER EVENT 12/22/2003 12/23/2003 12/23/2003
Comments: DEFT'S COPY OF ORDER TO EXCEED STATE FEE
LIMITATION RETURNED UNDELIVERABLE
COURT REPORTER CERTIFICATE MAXEY REBECCA 12/17/2003 12/18/2003
12/18/2003
CRIMINAL VERDICT HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/17/2003 12/18/2003 12/18/2003
Comments: OF GUILTY TO BURGLARY 2ND, 3RD, AND USING A
JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE OFFENSE; DCS
WILL SUBMIT A PSI BY 1 WK PRIOR TO SENTENCING
DATE; PRESENTENCE CONF & SENTENCING 1-16-04
@ 8:30 AM IN RM 209A; BOND CONT
AMENDED TRIAL INFORMATION HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/17/2003 12/18/2003
12/18/2003
Comments: FILED BY JOHN JUDISCH
JURY SELECTION HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/17/2003 12/18/2003 12/18/2003
INSTRUCTIONS 12/17/2003 12/18/2003 12/18/2003
Comments: TO THE JURY AND STATEMENT OF THE CASE
OTHER ORDER HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/16/2003 12/17/2003 12/17/2003
Comments: JUV SEAN BILYEU SHALL BE TRANSFERRED TO THE
CUSTODY OF POLK CO SHERIFF FOR THE DURATION
OF HIS REQUIRED TESTIMONY/PRESENCE IN THIS
MATTER. SEAN BILYEU SHALL REMAIN IN THE
CUSTODY OF POLK CO SHERIFF OR ANY OTHER
LOCATION (MEYER HALL) DEEMED APPROPRIATE BY
THE SHERIFF UNTIL THE POLK CO SHERIFF CAN
EXECUTE THE TIMELY TRANSPORT OF SEAN BILYEU
FROM THE CUSTODY OF THE SHERIFF TO THE ELDORA
TRAINING CENTER.
OTHER ORDER HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/16/2003 12/16/2003 12/16/2003
Comments: DEFT TO BE RETURNED FROM ELDORA-COTTAGE 5
BY JIM TROTTER, INVESTIGATOR/CTY ATTY'S
OFFICE; DEFT CAN BE PRESENT AT HIS TESTIMONY
ON 12-16-03
OTHER ORDER HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/15/2003 12/16/2003 12/16/2003
Comments: ATDF IS PERMITTED TO EXCEED GUIDELINE FOR
CT APPT ATTY IN THIS MATTER AND THAT THIS
ORDER SHALL INCLUED ALL FEES INCURRED AS OF
THE DATE OF THIS ORDER.
APPLICATION TO EXCEED FEES 12/15/2003 12/16/2003 12/16/2003
COURT REPORTER CERTIFICATE HILGENBERG VIVIAN ROSE 12/12/2003
12/17/2003 12/17/2003
MOTION IN LIMINE TAYLOR KAREN 12/12/2003 12/15/2003 12/15/2003
ORDER SETTING HEARING OVROM ELIZA 12/05/2003 12/08/2003 12/08/2003
Comments: STATUS CONF: 12/12/03 @ 10:00 AM RM 204
RETURN OF SERVICE ON SUBPEONA 11/20/2003 12/09/2003 12/09/2003
Comments: 4=$0
RETURN OF SERVICE ON SUBPEONA 11/18/2003 11/25/2003 11/25/2003
Comments: 3=$0
ORDER SETTING HEARING OVROM ELIZA 11/14/2003 11/14/2003 11/14/2003
Comments: STATUS CONFERENCE
11/13/03 9AM RM 204
ALL PARTIES MUST BE PRESENT
ORDER SETTING TRIAL OVROM ELIZA 11/13/2003 11/14/2003 11/14/2003
Comments: 12/15/03 @ 9:00 AM RM 204
WAIVER OF SPEEDY TRIAL TAYLOR KAREN 11/13/2003 11/14/2003
11/14/2003
Comments: LIMITED
RETURN OF SERVICE ON SUBPEONA 11/10/2003 11/12/2003 11/12/2003
Comments: 1 = $0
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF DAVID DUVALL
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF BETH ANN SKOGEN
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF NEIL LEMKE
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF DENNIS WIEBEN
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF NATALIE BALUKOFF
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF SEAN BILYEU
RETURN OF SERVICE ON SUBPEONA 10/31/2003 11/04/2003 11/04/2003
Comments: 6=$0
AMENDED TRIAL INFORMATION OVROM ELIZA 10/31/2003 11/03/2003
11/03/2003
Comments: FILED BY JOHN JUDISCH
NOTICE WARD JAMES P 10/31/2003 11/03/2003 11/03/2003
Comments: OF ADDITIONAL WITNESSES
DNU - SUBPOENA PER DUCES TECUM 10/31/2003 11/03/2003 11/03/2003
Comments: 1 - $13.70
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 10/21/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: FOR DEPOSITIONS AND SERVICE
AT STATE EXPENSE
OTHER APPLICATION 10/21/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: FOR DEPOSITIONS AND SERVICE
AT STATE EXPENSE
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITION
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 10/07/2003 10/08/2003 10/08/2003
Comments: ORDER ENTERED 9/18/03 SETTING TRIAL FOR
11/19/03 WAS IS ERROR. TRIAL IS RESET FOR
11/12/03 @9:00 AM RM 204
OTHER EVENT 09/24/2003 09/26/2003 09/26/2003
Comments: DEFT'S COPY OF APP TO W/D
RETURNED UNDELIVERABLE
PRE-TRIAL CONFERENCE OVROM ELIZA 09/18/2003 09/19/2003 09/19/2003
Comments: WAS HELD; TRIAL ON 11-19-03
ATDF TAYLOR
OTHER EVENT AMUNDSON LAURA K 08/26/2003 09/02/2003 09/02/2003
Comments: STATEMENT OF HOURS
.4-$18.00
APPEARANCE TAYLOR KAREN 08/25/2003 08/26/2003 08/26/2003
Comments: FILED BY KAREN TAYLOR
WITHDRAWAL OF COUNSEL OVROM ELIZA 08/21/2003 08/22/2003 08/22/2003
Comments: OF ADULT PUBLIC DEF IS GRANTED
KAREN TAYLOR IS APPOINTED
ORDER OF ARRAIGNMENT MCGHEE ODELL 08/21/2003 08/21/2003 08/21/2003
Comments: Pretrial Conference 09/18/2003 01:30 PM DCC1
Trial 10/22/2003 09:00 AM DCC9
Bond is continued
TRIAL INFORMATION OVROM ELIZA 08/20/2003 08/20/2003 08/20/2003
Comments: FILED BY JAMES WARD
ORDER FOR ARRAIGNMENT MCGHEE ODELL 08/14/2003 08/14/2003
08/14/2003
Comments: IN CUSTODY ON 8/21/03 AT 10:30AM JAILCOURT
OUT OF CUSTODY AT 8AM ROOM 204
PRELIM HAS NOT BEEN WAIVED SET FOR 8/22/03
DNU - HEARING FOR BOND REDUCTION MCGHEE ODELL 08/14/2003 08/14/2003
08/14/2003
Comments: BOND $13000 C/S
APP FOR COUNSEL/FINANCIAL STATMENT MCGHEE ODELL 08/13/2003
08/13/2003 08/13/2003
Comments: APPROVED
PD IS APPOINTED
CRIMINAL COMPLAINT 08/13/2003 08/13/2003 08/13/2003
Comments: BURGLARY 2ND
ANPD 03-75354
HEARING FOR INITIAL APPEARANCE MCGHEE ODELL 08/13/2003 08/13/2003
08/13/2003
Comments: Preliminary Hearing 08/22/2003 08:00 AM DA03
Bond Review 08/14/2003 08:30 AM DA04
Bond set for 713.5 $13000 C/S
Total Bond $13000 C/S
Indexed PUBLIC DEFENDER-POLK COUNTYPIN-
PK1000375
Title: STATE VS KENT BRADLEY WILLS
Case: 05771 FECR176876 (POLK)
Citation Number:
Orig Paid Due Summary
3501.70 3501.70 0.00 COSTS
0.00 0.00 0.00 FINE
125.00 125.00 0.00 SURCHARGE
0.00 0.00 0.00 RESTITUTION
27.50 27.50 0.00 OTHER
-------------------------------------
$3654.20 $3654.20 $0.00
WILLS, KENT B [ Collected Sept 13, 2009]
Age: 40
Rogers, AR
Ankeny, IA
Marshalltown, IA
Bartlett, IL
Villa Park, IL
And from another source: Hanover Park, IL
WILLS, FREDERICK ALFRED (Kent's Dad 65 )
WILLS, MICHAEL A (Kent's son ??)
WILLS, JANET RAE (Kent's Mom 62 )
HARTWIG,TIFFANY JEANNE (Wills) (Kent's sister )
From another source: Kelly M Wills Kent's wife ?? )
( Samantha T Wills, Kathleen M Wills, James Wills ? )
-----------------------------------
Consider the following:
If "our" Kent is NOT Kent Bradley Wills then
his ""Fake ID"" has worked well, so what's
the problem?
Consider Kent's OWN comments about:
A. regarding his sister (by name)
B. property in CORPORATION name (Wills Family Trust)
C. footage of "Wills" plaque avoiding first name
D. apt building at 202 NW College Ave Ankeny IA
E. past residence in various cities in IA
F. connection to Arkansas
G. that he set up/was assigned this ""Fake ID""
Does an actual Garage Burglary Felon have a
RIGHT to con people into thinking he ISN'T one?
Does a TWO time thieving Felon actually have
a right to conceal his record and a right
against having his record exposed?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.bob-larson/msg/b9653f6758b592b8
Newsgroups: alt.fan.bob-larson, alt.law-enforcement, alt.usenet.kooks
From: Kent Wills <compu...@gmail.com>
Local: Wed, Oct 15 2008 5:59 pm
> and running to Arkansas ain't gonna help you this time, Kent --
KBW > I've never run to Arkansas.
KBW > We have a house near Fort Smith, AR.
KBW > I'm confident your stalking has found
KBW > just where it is. You were able to
KBW > find my phone number from when I
KBW > lived in Chicago (you posted part
KBW > of it) back in 1988, so finding a
KBW > current address should have been
KBW > real easy for you.
2006 Assets Learning Conference Session III.8
Understanding the New Bankruptcy and Credit Laws:
Implications for the Field
Facilitated for the Assets Alliance by:
Janet Wills
Wills Resources
8250 Wills Court
Rogers, AR 72756
Phone & Fax Number: (479) 925-4001
E-mail: janetw...@yahoo.com
Ramona McKinney
Asset Builders Program Director
Southern Good Faith Fund
2304 West 29th Avenue
Pine Bluff, Arkansas 71603
Phone Number: (870) 535-6233, ext. 15
E-mail: rmck...@southerngff.org
History of Bankruptcy
Roots of word traced to medieval Italy – “banco rotto” which means
broken bench
Early U. S. bankruptcy law was modification of British law
1800’s – First federal bankruptcy law signed by President John Adams
in 1800 2 more laws passed and repealed until the Bankruptcy Act of
1898
1900’s and Beyond
A bankruptcy environment that had as its focus helping debtors seek a
new start remained in place for most of 20th century.
By beginning of 21st century creditors successfully argued that this
current law and environment were too easy on debtors
BAPCPA
The Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005
was passed and went into effect October 19, 2005
Interruption in our presentation
There is a blank page in the back of your packet. As we are talking
today about bankruptcy and credit, please use it to jot down some of
your thoughts on how this new bankruptcy environment is going to
impact you and the people you serve.
Specifically write yourself a note or two about at least one
bankruptcy proceeding you know about personally. Then in 20 words or
less state what you think the contributing cause was for that person’s
financial problems.
We will want to hear your thoughts later.
Types of Bankruptcy
Chapter 7
Chapter 11
Chapter 12
Chapter 13
Chapter 7
For personal bankruptcy
Often referred to is liquidation bankruptcy
Debtors turn over nonessential assets to bankruptcy trustee, who then
sells it off and distributes proceeds to creditors eliminating debt
completely
This type of bankruptcy was most affected by the BAOCPA
Chapter 11
For corporations that want to reorganize their finances and remain in
business
Features a debt repayment plan
Chapter 12
For family farmers and fishermen
Features payment plan and debt restructuring
Chapter 13
For individuals
Features debt repayment plan
More individuals who previously would have filed under Chapter 7 will
be forced into Chapter 13
Changes with the BAPCPA
Means test
Required Credit Counseling
Required Debtor Education
Means Test
To qualify for Chapter 7 “liquidation bankruptcy” individual must pass
means test
Income must be below state’s median income
Or if it is above, debtor is subject to means test
Monthly income less allowed expenses
If after all these subtractions the total monthly disposable income is
less than $100 the debtor has passed the Means Test
Means Test cont.
If disposable income is more than $166.67 Means test is flunked and
debtor is not eligible for Chapter 7, must go to Chapter 13
If disposable income is between $100 and $166.67 then calculations are
figured to see if what is left over is enough to pay off more than 25%
of unsecured debt over 5 years.
In other words – the means test is not easy.
Required Credit Counseling
Debtors filing for Chapter 7 must complete required credit counseling
& debtors must pay for it.* Credit Counseling must be provided by a
qualifying 501(c)3 organization that has been approved by Bankruptcy
Trustees.
*fee can be waived
Debtor Education
2 hours required
Required topics
Budget Development
Setting short-term & long-term financial goals as well as developing
skills to assist in achieving these goals
Calculating gross monthly income & net monthly income
Identifying & classifying monthly expenses as fixed, variable, or
periodic
Debtor Education
Required topics cont
Money Management
Keeping adequate financial records
Developing decision-making skills required to distinguish between
wants and needs and to comparison shop for goods & services
Maintaining appropriate levels of insurance coverage, taking into
account the types and costs of insurance
Saving for emergences, for periodic payments, and for financial goals
Debtor education
required topics cont.
Wise Use of Credit
Types sources, and costs of credit & loans
Identifying debt warning signs
Appropriate use of credit & alternatives to credit use
Checking a credit rating
Debtor Education
required topics cont.
Consumer information
Public and non-profit resources for consumer assistance
Applicable consumer protection laws and regulations, such as those
governing correction of a credit record and protection against
consumer fraud
Approved credit counseling and debtor education can be provided
In person
Internet
Telephone
(can be approved for a combination of internet/telephone. That is the
approval we have)
www.usdoj.gov/ust/
The U. S. Trustees home page
A Huge wealth of information
www.usdoj.gov/ust/eo/bapcpa/ccde/cc_approved.htm#AL
Web site (part of the trustee web site) for list of approved credit
counselors and debtor education providers
Click on state
Click on your judicial district
Bankruptcy and the Future
At first it’s a relief – you file for bankruptcy, the creditors stop
calling and harassing you, and the juggling act ends.
Many people who file bankruptcy ask, “Now what can I expect?”
Let’s begin looking at “what’s next” by completing the quiz.
Bankruptcy will expire from your credit report after 10 years.
Some credit reporting agencies may remove Chapter 13 after 7 years.
Bankruptcy is for life – if you apply for insurance, credit, or a job
you can be asked if you have ever filed for bankruptcy. There is no
time limit even if it is very old.
Bankruptcy will stay with me forever: True.
2. The accounts included in my bankruptcy will be removed from my
credit report upon discharge: False.
Accounts included in bankruptcy expire independently from bankruptcy.
These accounts will be marked “Included in BK” on the credit report.
They will remain up to 7 years after filing.
After discharge the balance must be reported as “0.”
I will never get credit again: False.
You can expect receive many offers of credit.
Many of these may be from unscrupulous creditors with activation fees
and/or membership fees.
There are “debtor-friendly” agencies that specialize in credit repair
loans.
Do not be too eager to get credit again – know the terms and
conditions of the credit.
I will not be able to by a home for 10 years: False.
There are some lenders who prefer to deal with consumers with good
credit and will not do business for the 10 years it remains.
It is not a quick fix, it may take those in Chapter 13 three to five
years to complete their payment plan.
With strides to rebuild credit and no new negative “marks,” you may be
able to receive a conventional mortgage within one to two years.
Even after bankruptcy I may still have some of my existing debt:
True.
Even with Chapter 7 not all debt will be discharged, it depends on the
type of debts that are owed.
Certain debts that cannot be discharged include: most taxes, child
support, most student loans, court fines and criminal restitution, and
personal injury.
Debts incurred after filing for bankruptcy will not be included.
I will lose all my property if I file for bankruptcy: False.
With Chapter 13, which is like a payment plan, you may be allowed to
keep property.
Chapter 7 involves the sale of all assets that are not exempt.
Exemptions differ from state to state but typically allow: equity in
home, insurance, retirement plans, personal property, car, public
benefits, and/or tools used on job.
Filing for bankruptcy will lower my credit score: True.
The drop in the credit score will depend on the type of debt and
payment history prior to filing.
Credit score is calculated using a complicated algorithm that takes
into account hundreds of factors and values.
It is very difficult to predict how the credit score will be affected
but bankruptcy is one of the most negative factors included in the
report.
I cannot file for bankruptcy for 8 years after discharge: True.
This is only true for Chapter 7.
Chapter 13 waiting period is shorter and can be as little as two
years.
After bankruptcy all my debts will be free and clear and I will have
peace of mind: False.
As stated in #5 all debts will not be discharged.
Bankruptcy is listed in the top five life-altering negative events
that one can go through.
Bankruptcy is life-altering and leaves deep wounds both to the psyche
and the credit report.
After bankruptcy I will need to take steps to protect myself from
another bankruptcy: True.
Even if the bankruptcy was through no fault of your own it will be a
good time to examine what led to bankruptcy to begin to prepare for
unforeseen events.
Take a critical look at spending and saving habits.
Implement strategies to control spending, develop a budget, and start
a savings plan.
Let’s Talk About It
Implications to the IDA field
The “typical” person seeking bankruptcy
Contributing causes
krp
>>>>>>> Moe did say she had a younger man, but that's sick.
>>>>>>> Maybe there SHOULD be an investigation into
>>>>>>> who that boy is, if he is underage.
>>>>>>> Moe posted the photo online.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>A) That is not a photo of me, no matter what you try to claim.I never
>>>>>>posted that photo.
>>>>>
>>>>> Greg is UNABLE to accept that simple truth. His mind really is
>>>>> so messed up from the use and abuse of illegal drugs he's admitted,
>>>>> that he really does believe that everyone with the same first name are
>>>>> all the same person.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This coming from a guy who THINKS he has posted PROOF of his claims,
>>>> but
>>>>when nobody agrees claims he posted them in INVISIBLE INK!
>>>
>>> That you were so drunk when you read my post that you couldn't
>>> understand is your issue to address.
>>
>> Still ducking the request to CITE THIS WAVE OF NEW LAWS on copyright
>>laws that CHANGES the Fair Use Doctrine.
>
> I linked to the copyright office web site where current copyright
> law can be read.
> Please see Message ID:
> <d41df5p753rv2pk8n...@4ax.com> where you, and anyone
> else with an interest, may see that I did cite current copyright law.
Sadly NOT a link anyone can follow. HOW CONVENIENT. Now give is the Google
link or remain branded a LIAR. Funny KUNT it seems on the U.S. Copyright
office the LAW seems to have been enacted in 1976. Now perhaps you refer to
on top from 2008 that refers to copyrights.
Please show me where the act ADDRESSES "The Fair Use Doctrine" much less
REPEALS It as you claim, Kunt. Oh you can't? WHAT A SHOCK!!!!
Contacto
Greegor <gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
Flush.
freedom
>GARAGE BURGLAR
I hope your "proof" of Kent being a garage burglar is more solid than your
"proof" that I beat up a fictional child in Indiana.
Are you seriously so uneducated that you don't know how to search a message
ID in Google Groups? It took me about 20 seconds to pull up the post, and
to see that Kent did indeed nail your fat ass to the wall.
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
The truth about Kenneth Pangborn of KRP Consulting, 3648 Cockatoo Drive,
New Port Richey, Florida
"Carol Ann you don't KNOW shit! Youy are LYING! ...... Jesus Christ you are
one DESPICABLE CUNT!!!! ....Bitch you are GUTTER SLIME!"
--Kenneth Pangborn, from a usenet argument with a female debator,
highlighting his typical views on women
"Rumors about ken are true, he is a bad man. That is why both my mother and
I ran out of there as fast as we could back in the late summer of 2002. He
ruined my life and my moms life....His business is a scam, as he is in the
rest of his life. He enjoys child pornography and was investigated for that
as well....he'll call my mom 20 times a day until she answers...[Ken's
sister-in-law Rebecca Reilly] wouldnt come over to our house anymore
because of how he would talk to her and come on to her....and he had over
180 pictures of her on his computer"
--Ken Pangborn's daughter Megan
"Blood, breath or urine?"
--question to Ken Pangborn from a Florida police officer in November 2008,
during a traffic stop from which Pangborn was subsequently charged with
DUI**
"...beating [some kids] into a bloody pulp is the ONLY thing
that would get through to them."
--Ken Pangborn on child rearing
"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll cripple
you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
but you will still be a cripple."
--Pangborn puppet Greg Hanson of alt.support.child-protective-services **,
in a verbal threat to his girlfriend
** - this conclusion was reached via applying Ken and Greg's logic
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Extra-keywords: Julito Sainz,craig clawson,lia yisell
krp
"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
news:eb21936e2103e89d...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
>>GARAGE BURGLAR
>>"Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:0gaqf519msfj0aa10...@4ax.com...
> I hope your "proof" of Kent being a garage burglar is more solid than your
> "proof" that I beat up a fictional child in Indiana.
Both are solid Moore and have been documented repeatedly. But then you
claim it is the "OTHER" David Moore. <snicker> YEAH, Davey - EVERYONE
believes you
Kent Wills
<about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 13 Nov 2009, krp <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>GARAGE BURGLAR
>
>I hope your "proof" of Kent being a garage burglar is more solid than your
>"proof" that I beat up a fictional child in Indiana.
>
The child isn't fictional. The accusation was based in fiction,
in addition to the claim that the accusation was made against you.
[...]
>>>
>>> I linked to the copyright office web site where current copyright
>>> law can be read.
>>> Please see Message ID:
>>> <d41df5p753rv2pk8n...@4ax.com> where you, and anyone
>>> else with an interest, may see that I did cite current copyright law.
>>
>>Sadly NOT a link anyone can follow. HOW CONVENIENT.
>
>Are you seriously so uneducated that you don't know how to search a message
>ID in Google Groups? It took me about 20 seconds to pull up the post, and
>to see that Kent did indeed nail your fat ass to the wall.
>
Pangborn was, and is, too drunk to understand such simple ideas.
>http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
>The truth about Kenneth Pangborn of KRP Consulting, 3648 Cockatoo Drive,
>New Port Richey, Florida
>
"you are reading Moore's SELECTIVE material that is HIGHLY edited."
Kenneth Robert Pangborn claiming in misc.legal that David Moore can
and does edit Google's Usenet archive.
Message-ID: <n9Sfm.1372$nh2...@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>
Kent Wills
wrote:
You already acknowledged in the thread about your listserv that
my name in real life isn't Kent.
Are you telling the readers you were lying?
"Quotes below have been highly altered."
-- Kenneth Robert Pangborn accidentally admitting in misc.legal
that he alters posts when he replies.
Greegor
freedom
>On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:51:24 +0100, freedom
><about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 13 Nov 2009, krp <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>>GARAGE BURGLAR
>>
>>I hope your "proof" of Kent being a garage burglar is more solid than your
>>"proof" that I beat up a fictional child in Indiana.
>>
>
> The child isn't fictional. The accusation was based in fiction,
>in addition to the claim that the accusation was made against you.
Actually, Ken made reference to a three-year old girl as the supposed
"victim" in the case. The case in question did not involve a female child
in any way, therefore he was referring to a child who didn't exist.
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
The truth about Kenneth Pangborn of KRP Consulting, 3648 Cockatoo Drive,
New Port Richey, Florida
"Carol Ann you don't KNOW shit! Youy are LYING! ...... Jesus Christ you are
freedom
>DAVID MOORE IDIOT SAVANT WITHOUT THE SAVANT PART
>"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
>news:eb21936e2103e89d...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
>
>>>GARAGE BURGLAR
>>>"Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:0gaqf519msfj0aa10...@4ax.com...
>
>> I hope your "proof" of Kent being a garage burglar is more solid than your
>> "proof" that I beat up a fictional child in Indiana.
>
> Both are solid Moore and have been documented repeatedly.
The only thing you documented was that someone with the same first and last
(but not middle) name as me was once accused of abuse. As the case against
him was dismissed, no abuse even took place.
> But then you
>claim it is the "OTHER" David Moore. <snicker> YEAH, Davey - EVERYONE
>believes you
Yes, the case in question involved another person sharing my first and last
name. I note that you're too uneducated to grasp the simple concept of
someone having a "common name."
This is yet another example of why nobody should ever hire you....I can
imagine you calling up one of your clients: "Hey, Joe, great news....I
found someone with the same first and last name as your ex-wife, who's
doing 10 years for armed robbery in California! We'll bring this up in
court..."
Kent Wills
<about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 14 Nov 2009, Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:51:24 +0100, freedom
>><about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 13 Nov 2009, krp <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>GARAGE BURGLAR
>>>
>>>I hope your "proof" of Kent being a garage burglar is more solid than your
>>>"proof" that I beat up a fictional child in Indiana.
>>>
>>
>> The child isn't fictional. The accusation was based in fiction,
>>in addition to the claim that the accusation was made against you.
>
>Actually, Ken made reference to a three-year old girl as the supposed
>"victim" in the case. The case in question did not involve a female child
>in any way, therefore he was referring to a child who didn't exist.
>
I misunderstood your meaning. I thought you meant the 10
year-old was fictional. I apologize for the error.
>
>
>http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
>The truth about Kenneth Pangborn of KRP Consulting, 3648 Cockatoo Drive,
>New Port Richey, Florida
womanGoddess
Anyone can look it up Greg. Frankly I really am not interested in
discussing this further., You are free, OC to keep on masturbating
over it.
>
> Moe > Go ahead and prove how much
> Moe > of an obsessive stalker you are.
>
> G > You forgot to call me fat.
>
> Moe > The photo of you I saw
>
> Liar.
Not a lie Greg. I saw your photo.
>
> Moe > shows you not to be fat, probably
> Moe > because of your drug use.
>
> Liar.
So you ARE fat?
>
> Moe > I can hardly mistake you for your master Kennie.
>
> Moe > For one, you are waaay stupider than he
> Moe > is, which is a low standard as it is.
>
> G > When you said that Kent described TOR as
> G > file sharing software for child porn freaks,
> G > that was freaking HILARIOUS!
>
> Moe > Because you mentioned it> -------------------------
>
> Moe > Particularly since you didn't know it
> Moe > and have';t used the term until
> Moe > AFTER I said what it means.> ------------------------
>
> Moe > and it brought into question the
> Moe > possibility YOU know about it
> Moe > because you collect child porn.
>
> G > Don't you think it might be just a bit TOO EASY to
> G > pretend that your opponents are REALLY EVIL?
>
> Moe > Have I ever said my " opponents" are "evil" greg?
>
> Moe > Now I despise child molesters, women abusers,
> Moe > rapists, misogynists and other low life scum.
>
> Even if you have to fictionalize or exaggerate to label them.
Fictionalize? Exaggerate? Kindly show where I have done so. Or is
this what you mindlessly copied and pasted from Kennie's email to you
telling you what to say?
>
> Moe > Actual human evil, such as psychopaths like
> Moe > John Wayne Gacy showed, is fortunately rare.
>
> Moe > But if you are inferring that I think you are evil,
> Moe > sorry, I just think you are scum.
>
> Which in your mind justifies telling the lies you do.
And what "lies" have I told?
Speaking of lies, how many has your master Kennie told?
>
> AND trying to covering up actual criminal
> FELONIES for your friend Kent.
You have yet to prove that the 'Kent Wills" who posts here is his
actual name. Your obsessive stalking nothwithstanding, you have yet to
even show proof via actual physical court documents that such alleged
crimes actually happened.
All you have is a lot of guess work. Your scattershot attempts to
find anyone with the similar name serves more to show how stupid you
actually are than actual proof of your claims about anyone.
>
> Moe > The question still remains, Why do YOU
> Moe > know about the TOR-child porn angle?
>
> G > YOU'RE the one who claimed that connection!
>
> Moe > The Wikipedia definition of TOR includes
> Moe > the fact that child porn users use it to hide behind.
>
> Does Wiki say it's file sharing software as
> Kent told you and you parroted publicly?
Did you even managed to check before responding, or are you doing
your usual stupidity?
>
> Moe > You abused and had inappropriate physical
> Moe > contact with a seven year old girl.
>
> Because YOU said so?
I go by your own words Greg, You are a sicko who doesn't think
touching the genitals of a seven year old girl with your BARE hand is
inappropriate. Most people would consider an adult male doing that to
have sick, ulterior motives.
Tell me, has Lisa gotten her daughter back or not Greg?
Well, Greg, Yes or no?
k>
> Moe > Why YOU would know about it is not hard to conclude.
>
> You're just pissed because you found out
> that your lies for Kent didn't work.
You overestimate your importance to me Greg. I despise you enough as
it is.
>
> And you ARE a misfit who can't get a date with either gender.
>
> G > Did you notice that Davey has not rushed
> G > to explain it to you? LOL
>
> Moe > Unlike you, Dave has a life, and your
> Moe > response to me was barely three
> Moe > hours apart from when I posted.
>
> G > So?
>
> Moe > And it flies right over the idiot's skull.......
> Moe > Jeez, you ARE that stupid!!
>
> You keep making ""accusations"" that even
> if true are of basically NO CONSEQUENCE.
Speaking of consequence, how is Lisa's daughter, Greg?
>
> Moe > You HAVE heard of people living outside
> Moe > of the internet, haven't you?
>
> G > How is Frank doing anyway?
> G > How long did he keep that collector car?
>
> Moe > Since you don't have a job and mooch off of Lisa,
> Moe > you obviously don't interact much with the outside
> Moe > world. Like your master Kennie doesn't, but in
> Moe > HIS case he can't because he can't fake being "
> Moe > normal" for very long.
> Moe >
> Moe > "ParK!! PARK!!! PARK!!!"
>
> G > You're a misfit who can't get a date with either gender.
>
> Moe > While you abuse women and sexually
> Moe > molest seven year old girls.
>
> Do you feel abused, Moe?
> Or do you feel like you're 7 years old?
Mind explaining that?
Do you actually think you are abusing me?
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!
>
> G > Who is that kid in that photo with you?
>
> Moe > That's not a photo of me, idiot.
> Moe > You missed again.
>
> You lack credibility.
> You lied for Kent repeatedly.
Speaking of credibility, hows your lack of same going along?
Greegor
Moe > While you abuse women and sexually
Moe > molest seven year old girls.
G > Do you feel abused, Moe?
G > Or do you feel like you're 7 years old?
Moe > Mind explaining that?
Moe > Do you actually think you are abusing me?
Do you feel abused, Moe?
G > Who is that kid in that photo with you?
Moe > That's not a photo of me, idiot.
Moe > You missed again.
http://www.pichost.ru/show.php/118293_moe.jpg.html
G > You lack credibility.
G > You lied for Kent repeatedly.
Moe > Speaking of credibility, hows
Moe > your lack of same going along?
------------------------------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/98c8d85b37b318de
Besides, you do know the difference between
a MAN and a son, don't you? Or have you
forgotten that women can bear children?
----------------------------------------
In your case wouldn't that be bestiality?
Is that young man your spawn?
Whether or not he is, that's a tacit admission
that the woman in the photo IS you.
Kent Wills
Only in your drug addled mind. To people who aren't burdened by
your use and abuse of illegal drugs (unless you lied), the meaning
would be closer to Moe pointing out that it's far more likely the boy
pictured is the woman's son than anything else.
Yes, Moe will be in a better possition to know exactly what she
meant, but I suspect I'm accurate.
You, however, have once again PROVED your use and abuse of
illegal drugs compels you to LIE. Since this is accepted, seemingly
by all, I have to wonder why you are so insistent on proving it.
Greegor
Dan Sullivan
Greegor
> "Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com> wrote bs
What part of the dossier on Kent Wills is wrong, Dan?
Is your complaint about a misplaced comma or poor word choice?
Kent Bradley Wills AKA Compuelf DOB Jan 8 1969 Felony Garage Burglar
used teen as accomplice
Kent's Appeal
IN PRINTED LAW BOOKS
Dan Sullivan
> On Nov 17, 11:08 pm, "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> > "Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com> wrote bs
>
> What part of the dossier on Kent Wills is wrong, Dan?
What does your BS have to do with asCPS, grag?
Greegor
G > What part of the dossier on Kent Wills is wrong, Dan?
DJS3 > What does your BS have to do with asCPS, grag?
What's the last thing you posted in ascps about CPS, Danny?
When were Kent Wills, Maureen McAllister or
David Moore ever relevant to CPS issues in the first place?
Ask me how they're relevant to misc.legal,alt.true-crime,
alt.usenet.kooks and alt.friends, Danny!
My reasons are manyfold.
A LITERATE person would know that.
Even a HIGH SCHOOL debater could
figure out you didn't want to answer
the only question I asked and you
felt you needed a distraction.
G > What part of the dossier on Kent Wills is wrong, Dan?
Kent Wills
<gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
Since you admitted the information below isn't about me, I have to
wonder why you continue to post it. And why you have the unquenchable
NEED to further prove you use and abuse illegal drugs (unless your
admission of it was a lie).
Would you be so kind as to explain just why you MUST post that
which you admit isn't about me?
Would you also explain why you're still using and abusing illegal
drugs? You admitted your use and abuse of illegal drug forces you to
stalk (by the very definition you posted to accuse others of stalking
you) the members of alt.friends. Since you did your stalking in the
post to which I am replying, it's clear you are letting the readers
know that you're still using and abusing illegal drugs.
Kent Wills
It has nothing to do with it. Greg is DESPERATE to keep any CPS
discussion away from ASCPS.
Greg doesn't want families who are dealing with CPS to have any
chance of winning. He absolutely LOVES CPS.
Your dealings with CPS and Greg's actions towards you stand as
excellent proof of Greg's LOVE of CPS.
If Greg were pro-family, he would congratulate you for beating
CPS. He would embrace the ideas you present for battling CPS, even if
they won't work 100% of the time. Since Greg HATES to see CPS lose,
he attacks you to the degree possible on-line.
However, attacking you can only go so far. He wants to cause as
much disruption as possible in other areas. This is why he posts that
which he admits isn't about me. It's not about me so much as it's
about keeping people from learning how to beat CPS.
Sadly, I've been feeding his desire. I have gotten better about
removing ASCPS from the list, but I do let far too many through. After
this post, I will endeavor to remove it from all lists, unless the
topic is related to CPS.
--
Count your blessings by thinking of those whom you love.
Dan Sullivan
> On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:52:35 -0800 (PST), Dan Sullivan
>
> >On Nov 18, 12:20 am, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Nov 17, 11:08 pm, "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> >> > "Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com> wrote bs
>
> >> What part of the dossier on Kent Wills is wrong, Dan?
>
> >What does your BS have to do with asCPS, grag?
>
> It has nothing to do with it. Greg is DESPERATE to keep any CPS
> discussion away from ASCPS.
grag is the kid in grade school who raised his hand and when the
teacher called on him he stood up and yelled "BOOGERS!!!"
> Greg doesn't want families who are dealing with CPS to have any
> chance of winning.
Years ago I spent hours and hours explaining to grag how he could help
his girlfriend get custody of her daughter back from CPS.
But he wasn't interested.
grag was like the terrorists who wanted to learn how to fly an
airliner but not how to take off or land.
He only wanted to learn how to sue CPS.
He had zero interest in helping his girlfriend get reunited with her
daughter.
The seven year old was removed from her mother's custody in early 2001
(because of grag) and as yet grag has NOT claimed that the mother
regained custody!!!
Greegor
G > What part of the dossier on Kent Wills is wrong, Dan?
DJS3 > What does your BS have to do with asCPS, grag?
What's the last thing you posted in ascps about CPS, Danny?
When were Kent Wills, Maureen McAllister or
David Moore ever relevant to CPS issues in the first place?
Ask me how they're relevant to misc.legal,alt.true-crime,
alt.usenet.kooks and alt.friends, Danny!
My reasons are manyfold.
A LITERATE person would know that.
Even a HIGH SCHOOL debater could
figure out you didn't want to answer
the only question I asked and you
felt you needed a distraction.
G > What part of the dossier on Kent Wills is wrong, Dan?
Dan, If you want to challenge the dossier
on Kent Wills, please be specific!
I'm beginning to sense that you don't want
to challenge the Kent Wills dossier, Dan.
A LITERATE person would conclude that
after you failed to meet the challenge
several times, and attempted distraction.
DJS3 > grag is the kid in grade school who
DJS3 > raised his hand and when the teacher
DJS3 > called on him he stood up and yelled "BOOGERS!!!"
What part of the dossier on Kent Wills is wrong, Dan?
It's ironic that you are trying to distract from
that question with a story about distraction.
DJS3 > Years ago I spent hours and hours
DJS3 > explaining to grag how he could help
DJS3 > his girlfriend get custody of her
DJS3 > daughter back from CPS.
DJS3 >
DJS3 > But he wasn't interested.
Dan, Your posting history of the last 8 years
would more than justify that to any person,
LITERATE or not.
DJS3 > grag was like the terrorists who wanted to
DJS3 > learn how to fly an airliner but not how
DJS3 > to take off or land.
A variation on argmentum ad hitlerum.
DJS3 > He only wanted to learn how to sue CPS.
DJS3 > He had zero interest in helping his
DJS3 > girlfriend get reunited with her daughter.
Dan's winning through surrender tactics.
Your buddy Donald Lewis Fisher of Carson,
former Oregon caseworker? Hmm!
DJS3 > The seven year old was removed from
DJS3 > her mother's custody in early 2001
DJS3 > (because of grag) and
DJS3 > as yet grag has NOT claimed that
DJS3 > the mother regained custody!!!
You would not believe me if I told you, Dan.
Dan Sullivan
"Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:b5a464cd-e447-45d9...@s15g2000yqs.googlegroups.com...
Your "dossier" post and that question are a distraction.
That was the point I was making, grag.
> DJS3 > Years ago I spent hours and hours
> DJS3 > explaining to grag how he could help
> DJS3 > his girlfriend get custody of her
> DJS3 > daughter back from CPS.
> DJS3 >
> DJS3 > But he wasn't interested.
>
> Dan, Your posting history of the last 8 years
> would more than justify that to any person,
> LITERATE or not.
Justify what?
> DJS3 > grag was like the terrorists who wanted to
> DJS3 > learn how to fly an airliner but not how
> DJS3 > to take off or land.
>
> A variation on argmentum ad hitlerum.
Mine is a fair comparison.
> DJS3 > He only wanted to learn how to sue CPS.
>
> DJS3 > He had zero interest in helping his
> DJS3 > girlfriend get reunited with her daughter.
>
> Dan's winning through surrender tactics.
Winning by proving the allegations to be false.
Is there another way to beat CPS?
Please detail the strategy you used to achieve your success in the Lisa
Watkin's case, grag.
> Your buddy Donald Lewis Fisher of Carson,
> former Oregon caseworker? Hmm!
>
> DJS3 > The seven year old was removed from
> DJS3 > her mother's custody in early 2001
> DJS3 > (because of grag) and
>
> DJS3 > as yet grag has NOT claimed that
> DJS3 > the mother regained custody!!!
>
> You would not believe me if I told you, Dan.
Tell me and I'll determine if I believe you, grag.
Greegor
G > I'm beginning to sense that you don't want
G > to challenge the Kent Wills dossier, Dan.
G >
G > A LITERATE person would conclude that
G > after you failed to meet the challenge
G > several times, and attempted distraction.
[...]
DJS3 > grag was like the terrorists who wanted to
DJS3 > learn how to fly an airliner but not how
DJS3 > to take off or land.
G > A variation on argmentum ad hitlerum.
DJS3 > Mine is a fair comparison.
Why did you bring up HIGH SCHOOL debating
when you clearly would fail that so miserably?
[...]
DJS3 > He had zero interest in helping his
DJS3 > girlfriend get reunited with her daughter.
G > Dan's winning through surrender tactics.
DJS3 > Winning by proving the allegations to be false.
DJS3 > Is there another way to beat CPS?
You said you didn't believe they WERE false allegations!
DJS3 > Please detail the strategy you used to achieve
DJS3 > your success in the Lisa Watkin's case, grag.
I embarassed the hell out of them when I got into court.
If you want more details, you've got to open up
some more about your own details, Dan.
You know, simple questions like what it is that
makes so many people report you as a child abuser.
You admitted the reports were NOT all instigated
by your bipolar ex-wife.
Or when in relation to making babies you knew
that your bipolar ex-wife was a freakin' mental case.
How many babies did you make with her AFTER
you knew she was a freaking mental case?
[...]
G > You would not believe me if I told you, Dan.
DJS3 > Tell me and I'll determine if I believe you, grag.
Your sadism does not make me a massochist.
Any guy who can blame somebody CPS accuses
for an investigation, yet doesn't likewise blame
themself for their own 20+ investigations really
impresses me.
Dan Sullivan
> [...]
>
> G > I'm beginning to sense that you don't want
> G > to challenge the Kent Wills dossier, Dan.
> G >
> G > A LITERATE person would conclude that
> G > after you failed to meet the challenge
> G > several times, and attempted distraction.
>
> [...]
>
> DJS3 > grag was like the terrorists who wanted to
> DJS3 > learn how to fly an airliner but not how
> DJS3 > to take off or land.
>
> G > A variation on argmentum ad hitlerum.
>
> DJS3 > Mine is a fair comparison.
>
> Why did you bring up HIGH SCHOOL debating
> when you clearly would fail that so miserably?
I said pangborn would fail high school debating.
> [...]
>
> DJS3 > He had zero interest in helping his
> DJS3 > girlfriend get reunited with her daughter.
>
> G > Dan's winning through surrender tactics.
>
> DJS3 > Winning by proving the allegations to be false.
> DJS3 > Is there another way to beat CPS?
>
> You said you didn't believe they WERE false allegations!
After I saw how you ignored my advice on how to prove the allegations
to be false and focus on suing.
And subsequently admit what you did to the little girl.
> DJS3 > Please detail the strategy you used to achieve
> DJS3 > your success in the Lisa Watkin's case, grag.
>
> I embarassed the hell out of them when I got into court.
That and two dimes and a nickel will get you a quarter.
Greegor
daughter.
G > I'm beginning to sense that you don't want
G > to challenge the Kent Wills dossier, Dan.
G >
G > A LITERATE person would conclude that
G > after you failed to meet the challenge
G > several times, and attempted distraction.
DJS3 > grag was like the terrorists who wanted to
DJS3 > learn how to fly an airliner but not how
DJS3 > to take off or land.
G > A variation on argmentum ad hitlerum.
DJS3 > Mine is a fair comparison.
DJS3 > Why did you bring up HIGH SCHOOL debating
DJS3 > when you clearly would fail that so miserably?
DJS3 > I said pangborn would fail high school debating.
You're lame enough to use argumentum ad hitlerum
so you've got no room to talk on that score.
DJS3 > He had zero interest in helping his
DJS3 > girlfriend get reunited with her daughter.
G > Dan's winning through surrender tactics.
DJS3 > Winning by proving the allegations to be false.
DJS3 > Is there another way to beat CPS?
G > You said you didn't believe they WERE false allegations!
DJS3 > After I saw how you ignored my advice on how
DJS3 > to prove the allegations to be false and focus on suing.
What exactly was this advice, Dan?
You posted it, right?
Got a LINK?
DJS3 > And subsequently admit what you did to the little girl.
When did Ric and others TURN on you, Dan?
When did the exaggeration of what I said start, Dan?
DJS3 > Please detail the strategy you used to achieve
DJS3 > your success in the Lisa Watkin's case, grag.
G > I embarassed the hell out of them when I got into court.
DJS3 > That and two dimes and a nickel will get you a quarter.
That and the ruling in my favor.
G > If you want more details, you've got to open up
G > some more about your own details, Dan.
G >
G > You know, simple questions like what it is that
G > makes so many people report you as a child abuser.
G >
G > You admitted the reports were NOT all instigated
G > by your bipolar ex-wife.
G >
G > Or when in relation to making babies you knew
G > that your bipolar ex-wife was a freakin' mental case.
G >
G > How many babies did you make with her AFTER
G > you knew she was a freaking mental case?
G > You would not believe me if I told you, Dan.
DJS3 > Tell me and I'll determine if I believe you, grag.
G > Your sadism does not make me a massochist.
G > Any guy who can blame somebody CPS accuses
G > for an investigation, yet doesn't likewise blame
G > themself for their own 20+ investigations really
G > impresses me.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/fd8630f6b19c996d
Would you say it's true that this
exchange started with your below
response to the above, Dan?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/8f142d07c73be98d
What part of the dossier on Kent Wills is wrong, Dan?
Is your complaint about a misplaced comma or poor word choice?
Dan Sullivan
>
> DJS3 > Please detail the strategy you used to achieve
> DJS3 > your success in the Lisa Watkin's case, grag.
>
> G > I embarassed the hell out of them when I got into court.
>
> DJS3 > That and two dimes and a nickel will get you a quarter.
>
> That and the ruling in my favor.
What was the ruling in your favor?
How much money did CPS (or anyone) have to pay you?
Kent Wills
<dsul...@optonline.net> wrote:
>On Nov 18, 4:21�am, Kent Wills <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:52:35 -0800 (PST), Dan Sullivan
>>
>> <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> >On Nov 18, 12:20�am, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Nov 17, 11:08�pm, "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> > "Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com> wrote bs
>>
>> >> What part of the dossier on Kent Wills is wrong, Dan?
>>
>> >What does your BS have to do with asCPS, grag?
>>
>> � � �It has nothing to do with it. �Greg is DESPERATE to keep any CPS
>> discussion away from ASCPS.
>
>grag is the kid in grade school who raised his hand and when the
>teacher called on him he stood up and yelled "BOOGERS!!!"
>
>> � � �Greg doesn't want families who are dealing with CPS to have any
>> chance of winning. �
>
>Years ago I spent hours and hours explaining to grag how he could help
>his girlfriend get custody of her daughter back from CPS.
>
>But he wasn't interested.
CPS won. That's all he cared about.
>
>grag was like the terrorists who wanted to learn how to fly an
>airliner but not how to take off or land.
>
>He only wanted to learn how to sue CPS.
He's not interested in that either. Just presenting that he is,
since he thinks parents will trust him.
You may recall I cited the SoL for his case. Two years was it.
His claim that because the people involved haven't openly confessed
means the SoL is tolled is bunk, as I was able to prove.
>
>He had zero interest in helping his girlfriend get reunited with her
>daughter.
>
>The seven year old was removed from her mother's custody in early 2001
>(because of grag) and as yet grag has NOT claimed that the mother
>regained custody!!!
As of January, child support was still ordered for Grandpa. He's
offered nothing to suggest, let alone prove, the order has been
changed.
Lisa may not be all that intelligent (that she chose Greg over
her own daughter supports that), but even she would want the order to
name her, if she had custody. Daddy may be a dead beat, but if he
were to come into some money, there would be a good chance she could
get past support.
Kadaitcha Man
> R
*plonk*
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Greegor
> As of January, child support was still ordered for Grandpa.
Got a LINK?
Greegor
Dan Sullivan
> DJS3 > Why did you bring up HIGH SCHOOL debating
> DJS3 > when you clearly would fail that so miserably?
>
> DJS3 > I said pangborn would fail high school debating.
>
> You're lame enough to use argumentum ad hitlerum
> so you've got no room to talk on that score.
Translation; grag has no credible response to support his position
(prone and braindead)... as usual.
LOL!!!
womanGoddess
> G > You're a misfit who can't get a date with either gender.
>
> Moe > While you abuse women and sexually
> Moe > molest seven year old girls.
>
> G > Do you feel abused, Moe?
> G > Or do you feel like you're 7 years old?
>
> Moe > Mind explaining that?
> Moe > Do you actually think you are abusing me?
>
> Do you feel abused, Moe?
(( Derisive snort))
>
> G > Who is that kid in that photo with you?
>
> Moe > That's not a photo of me, idiot.
> Moe > You missed again.
>
> http://www.pichost.ru/show.php/118293_moe.jpg.html
>
> G > You lack credibility.
> G > You lied for Kent repeatedly.
>
> Moe > Speaking of credibility, hows
> Moe > your lack of same going along?
>
> ------------------------------------------
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/...
>
> Besides, you do know the difference between
> a MAN and a son, don't you? Or have you
> forgotten that women can bear children?
I noticed you didn't answer the question Greg.
Whatsamatter, your little game not working--again?
>
> ----------------------------------------
>
> In your case wouldn't that be bestiality?
> Is that young man your spawn?
>
> Whether or not he is, that's a tacit admission
> that the woman in the photo IS you.
Did I say that Greg?
What reason could I have for misleading you that that photo
supposedly is me? (VBEG)
Greg, you are STUUUUPIIIIDDDD!!!
womanGoddess
> DJS3 > "Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com> wrote bs
>
> G > What part of the dossier on Kent Wills is wrong, Dan?
>
> DJS3 > What does your BS have to do with asCPS, grag?
>
> What's the last thing you posted in ascps about CPS, Danny?
>
> When were Kent Wills, Maureen McAllister or
> David Moore ever relevant to CPS issues in the first place?
>
> Ask me how they're relevant to misc.legal,alt.true-crime,
> alt.usenet.kooks and alt.friends, Danny!
>
> My reasons are manyfold.
> A LITERATE person would know that.
>
> Even a HIGH SCHOOL debater could
> figure out you didn't want to answer
> the only question I asked and you
> felt you needed a distraction.
>
> G > What part of the dossier on Kent Wills is wrong, Dan?
>
(( Rest snipped))
You post this OVER and OVER because you obsess about Kent Wills and
crosspost to groups Kent visits.
HOW many times have you copy and pasted this crap Greg?
You do realize, don't you, that what you're doing reflects upon you
rather than Kent?
Greegor
Dan Sullivan
Kent Wills
<fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Nov 18, 1:02�am, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> DJS3 > "Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com> wrote bs
>>
>> G > What part of the dossier on Kent Wills is wrong, Dan?
>>
>> DJS3 > What does your BS have to do with asCPS, grag?
>>
>> What's the last thing you posted in ascps about CPS, Danny?
>>
>> When were Kent Wills, Maureen McAllister or
>> David Moore ever relevant to CPS issues in the first place?
>>
>> Ask me how they're relevant to misc.legal,alt.true-crime,
>> alt.usenet.kooks and alt.friends, Danny!
>>
>> My reasons are manyfold.
>> A LITERATE person would know that.
>>
>> Even a HIGH SCHOOL debater could
>> figure out you didn't want to answer
>> the only question I asked and you
>> felt you needed a distraction.
>>
>> G > What part of the dossier on Kent Wills is wrong, Dan?
>>
>
>
>(( Rest snipped))
>
> You post this OVER and OVER because you obsess about Kent Wills and
>crosspost to groups Kent visits.
Greg is obsessed with me. I am the single most important facet
of his on-line life. Outside of his illegal drugs, I'm the most
important facet of his real life (by his own standards he's admitted
this).
According to Greg, his use and abuse of illegal drugs is what
forces him to stalk (by the very definition he posted to accuse others
of stalking him) the members of alt.friends.
I don't think I've ever visited the true crime group. I have
cross-posts to it, but I've never subscribed.
>
> HOW many times have you copy and pasted this crap Greg?
>
> You do realize, don't you, that what you're doing reflects upon you
>rather than Kent?
>
Especially since he slipped and admitted the information isn't
really about me.
Kent Wills
<gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Hi Moe!
If I might be allowed to interrupt.
Why did you sexually molest Lisa's six year old (at the time)
little girl? I've asked this of you a few times, yet you've NEVER
answered.
I'm curious as to why you would find such a young child sexually
attractive.
Please don't run from this, as you have in the past. Let's spend
some time exploring your sexual interest in pre-pubescent girls.
Maybe, just maybe, we can learn what your specific trigger is, and
find a means for you to channel your desires for children in to
something healthy when the trigger is tripped.
"Quotes below have been highly altered."
-- -- Kenneth Robert Pangborn, alcoholic (according to him)
owner/operator of KRP CONsulting and The A-Team, accidentally
admitting in misc.legal
that he alters posts when he replies.
Kent Wills
<dsul...@optonline.net> wrote:
>Hey grag.
Greg molested Lisa's daughter. He will even admit it was PROVED
beyond any doubt. Why he wasn't charged is anyone's guess.
krp
"womanGoddess" <fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8b99e28a-2d85-43aa...@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
MOE> Greg, you are STUUUUPIIIIDDDD!!!
And yet he is smarter than you by 100 IQ points.
Greegor
used teen as accomplice
Kent's Appeal
womanGoddess
> "womanGoddess" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:8b99e28a-2d85-43aa...@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
> MOE> Greg, you are STUUUUPIIIIDDDD!!!
>
> And yet he is smarter than you by 100 IQ points.
If I am so dumb as you claim Kennie, how is it in regards to your
alleged AF service I exposed a number of your lies?
((Laughing))
Greegor
Moe > how is it in regards to your alleged AF
Moe > service I exposed a number of your lies?
You delude yourself constantly.
krp
Maureen thinks that because her daddy served that SHE is an expert on
military service. She is still beating the drum that because I misspelled
the base commander's last name this means she PROVED I never served. She's
like so many loons on Usenet who think that because they loudly and
repeatedly make a claim that it is proof.
womanGoddess
> "Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:5e1ef361-40f1-412a...@g1g2000vbr.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Moe > If I am so dumb as you claim Kennie,
> > Moe > how is it in regards to your alleged AF
> > Moe > service I exposed a number of your lies?
>
> > You delude yourself constantly.
>
> Maureen thinks that because her daddy served that SHE is an expert on
> military service.
I dont have to be an expert in military service to poke holes in your
claims about your alleged AF service Kennie. I managed to dissect your
claims and shown how full of shit you actually are.
Your " was almost a pilot" claim, your " weapons instructor" claim
coupled with your simple error or not calling the issued firearm by
its military designation AND calling it the wrong number to boot, and
your atrocious misspelling of a Brigadier General's name, not once but
at least three times before I corrected you AND let's not forget your
boast of winning shooting trial awards while in the AF but shut up
when I mentioned my father kept some of HIS awards, all this and more
were sufficient enough to match what I DO know to your boasting crap.
You in your usual cowardice mocked what you thought was my father's
tour in Viet Nam, a service YOU never experienced yourself because you
hauled ass OUT as soon as you could. Your excuses in a number of areas
in this subject after I repeatedly cornered your lying ass were
pathetic and your usual slimy crap.
The point is that as my father was career AF, his family lived at
the bases and moved around to new base assignments. The irony is that
he was what you PRETENDED to be in the Air Force.
> She is still beating the drum that because I misspelled
> the base commander's last name
Actually you misspelled BOTH his first and last names. "NormaL"?
Really? When has any parent in the 1920s named their son NORMAL
instead of, oh, NORMAN?
You also conveniently forget to mention that when you were supposedly
stationed at that AFB in 1960. Kallish was a BRIGADIER General, not
just a General. A detail that would have been firmly set in your
mind had you actually served at that base and made such a simple
mistake.
>this means she PROVED I never served.
I never said you didn't serve in the Air Force. I DID say your CLAIMS
about what you supposedly did were highly questionable when compared
with the known facts.
Also on reading George Carlin's Semi autobiography " Last Words"
Carlin mentions his AF service, which was just before the dates you
claimed you served, as five years active, five years reserve. Even
after he got in trouble a few times for insubordination and lost rank.
Your length of " service" is much less. Which leads me to think the AF
wanted your ass OUT as soon as possible.
> She's
> like so many loons on Usenet who think that because they loudly and
> repeatedly make a claim that it is proof.
Oh like you do Kennie?
The difference is that I know SOME of the details to counter you
boastings, and I proved you to be a posturing pissant a number of
times concerning this subject area. And you don't like being proven
the liar you are. In soc.veterans one person nailed your lying ass to
the wall when you did the "winnable nuclear war in Vietnam" claim and
when he showed you the web site of documents, you were so unfamiliar
with military documents ( which destroyed yet another claim about
yourself) that you tried conning him to show you the specific
document. He wasn't fooled by that juvenile trick and he pretty much
told you so. You, OC, did your usual, not realizing that in doing
your usual crap, you showed what a lying pissant you are.
I just sat reading the thread and smiled.
The fact is that any person who has some basic knowledge of the Air
Force workings at the time could have done far more than I did to
discredit your claims about yourself. I love the bullshit about you
being an " advisor" when you were clearly unqualified to be in such a
position. And for a so-called " weapons instructor" to NOT know the
military designation for the 1911 AND be so sloppy as to repeatedly
refer to the gun as the 1910, well THAT was so obvious your posturing
LIE that even a fourth grader could see you were lying.
Your many EXCUSES were, as usual, weak. And when you resorted to
deriding my father for HIS ACTUAL service while you hid out like the
coward you actually are, well, that was the " nail" in your coffin of
credibility.
It is no shame to serve in the military. But you should be ashamed of
being such a goddamn liar and posturing phony.
Greegor
Moe thinks she's turned your military service
into a detective story, much along the lines
of her obsession with TRUE CRIMES and
her pretense at being an expert on that.
krp
>
> > You delude yourself constantly.
>
> Maureen thinks that because her daddy served that SHE is an expert on
> military service.
MOE> I dont have to be an expert in military service to poke holes in your
MOE> claims about your alleged AF service Kennie. I managed to dissect your
MOE> claims and shown how full of shit you actually are.
Maureen you are nothing but a legend in your own mind. You didn't poke
holes in anything but your own credibility. First you TRIED to claim that
the bases I said I served at "DID NOT EXIST" when you finally realize that
you had screwed the pooch on that, you made a HUGE deal that I misspelled
the base commander's last name with a K instead of a C. You seemed to suffer
some delusion that he and I should have been golfing buddies. At one time
the base had something like 30,000 people assigned there. 99% of us were NOT
drinking buddies with the guy. It also was 50 YEARS AGO, Maureen. But you
are STILL trying to make a HUGE deal out of it and claim it proves I never
served.
Kent Wills
wrote:
>
>"womanGoddess" <fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:96ebed21-bbae-4026...@v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > You delude yourself constantly.
>>
>> Maureen thinks that because her daddy served that SHE is an expert on
>> military service.
>
>MOE> I dont have to be an expert in military service to poke holes in your
>MOE> claims about your alleged AF service Kennie. I managed to dissect your
>MOE> claims and shown how full of shit you actually are.
>
>
> Maureen you are nothing but a legend in your own mind. You didn't poke
>holes in anything but your own credibility.
Is that why you had the k00k meltdown when she exposed your lies?
>First you TRIED to claim that
>the bases I said I served at "DID NOT EXIST" when you finally realize that
>you had screwed the pooch on that, you made a HUGE deal that I misspelled
>the base commander's last name with a K instead of a C.
I would expect you to know the difference. I mean, you LOVE to
use three K's in your posts.
>You seemed to suffer
>some delusion that he and I should have been golfing buddies.
When, outside of your latest PROOF that you post while drunk, has
Moe even implied such?
>At one time
>the base had something like 30,000 people assigned there. 99% of us were NOT
>drinking buddies with the guy. It also was 50 YEARS AGO, Maureen. But you
>are STILL trying to make a HUGE deal out of it and claim it proves I never
>served.
>
That was only one piece of the evidence. That you had to snip
the other selected bits of evidence stands as reason to believe she
completely proved you the lying fraud and con man you are. Not that
any more proof was needed. You've offered so much proof yourself,
additional proof only serves as a source of amusement.
"Sometimes Greg is sloppy with things like that. I would agree the
significance of the difference may be just a wee bit over his head"
-- Kenneth Robert Pangborn, alcoholic (according to him)
owner/operator of KRP CONsulting and The A-Team commenting on his ONLY
on-line friend, Gregory Scott Hanson.
krp
>
> > > Moe > If I am so dumb as you claim Kennie,
> > > Moe > how is it in regards to your alleged AF
> > > Moe > service I exposed a number of your lies?
>
> > > You delude yourself constantly.
>
> > Maureen thinks that because her daddy served that SHE is an expert on
> > military service.
> I dont have to be an expert in military service to poke holes in your
> claims about your alleged AF service Kennie. I managed to dissect your
> claims and shown how full of shit you actually are.
Only in your own mind, Maureen.
> Your " was almost a pilot" claim, your " weapons instructor" claim
> coupled with your simple error or not calling the issued firearm by
> its military designation AND calling it the wrong number to boot, and
> your atrocious misspelling of a Brigadier General's name, not once but
> at least three times before I corrected you AND let's not forget your
> boast of winning shooting trial awards while in the AF but shut up
> when I mentioned my father kept some of HIS awards, all this and more
> were sufficient enough to match what I DO know to your boasting crap.
> You in your usual cowardice mocked what you thought was my father's
> tour in Viet Nam, a service YOU never experienced yourself because you
> hauled ass OUT as soon as you could. Your excuses in a number of areas
> in this subject after I repeatedly cornered your lying ass were
> pathetic and your usual slimy crap.
I served my FULL obligation. YOU, Maureen never served a second. All you
know is what you HEARD and thought you understood as a military BRAT.
> The point is that as my father was career AF, his family lived at
> the bases and moved around to new base assignments. The irony is that
> he was what you PRETENDED to be in the Air Force.
And YOUR desk was right next to his and YOU issued ordcers too. I see.
> > She is still beating the drum that because I misspelled
> > the base commander's last name
>
> Actually you misspelled BOTH his first and last names. "NormaL"?
> Really? When has any parent in the 1920s named their son NORMAL
> instead of, oh, NORMAN?
Look you dizzy bitch that was a TYPO in ONE post and you desperately
grab onto it and TRY to make it a HUGE HUGE HUGE HUGE issue. You prove
yourself to be a LOON, Maureen.
> You also conveniently forget to mention that when you were supposedly
> stationed at that AFB in 1960. Kallish was a BRIGADIER General, not
> just a General. A detail that would have been firmly set in your
> mind had you actually served at that base and made such a simple
> mistake.
A ONE STAR General Maureen. NOBODY referred to him as a "BRIGADEER" I
was NOT in the BRITISH ARMY! Nor did I ever hear a Colonel referred to as a
"FULL BULL." I did hear "full bird" but NEVER a "FULL BULL." SOMEBODY may
have used that term, but *I* never heard it wnywhere I ever served.
> >this means she PROVED I never served.
> I never said you didn't serve in the Air Force. I DID say your CLAIMS
> about what you supposedly did were highly questionable when compared
> with the known facts.
Yes you did.
> Also on reading George Carlin's Semi autobiography " Last Words"
> Carlin mentions his AF service, which was just before the dates you
> claimed you served, as five years active, five years reserve. Even
> after he got in trouble a few times for insubordination and lost rank.
> Your length of " service" is much less. Which leads me to think the AF
> wanted your ass OUT as soon as possible.
And THAT is your proof? Maureen in YOU vast years of military service
you handled enlistment terms, eh? You are FULL OF SHIT. Carlin enlisted in
the AF in 1954 and was kicked out in 1957. You are using your McAllister
math again. That's NOT 5 years much less 10. He was dumped because he was an
"unproductive airman." (Major screwup.) He also got a GENERAL discharge for
the "convinience of the service" which was NOT upgradeable. I served from
1959 - 1965 and was given an HONORABLE discharge. Didn't have to be
upgraded, which you couldn't so them, anyway. As usual your "FACTS" turn out
to be BULLSHIT.
> > She's like so many loons on Usenet who think that because they loudly
> > and
> > repeatedly make a claim that it is proof.
> The fact is that any person who has some basic knowledge of the Air
> Force workings at the time could have done far more than I did to
> discredit your claims about yourself. I love the bullshit about you
> being an " advisor" when you were clearly unqualified to be in such a
> position. And for a so-called " weapons instructor" to NOT know the
> military designation for the 1911 AND be so sloppy as to repeatedly
> refer to the gun as the 1910, well THAT was so obvious your posturing
> LIE that even a fourth grader could see you were lying.
Maureen try this AGAIN - 50 YEARS.
> It is no shame to serve in the military. But you should be ashamed of
> being such a goddamn liar and posturing phony.
GH> Moe thinks she's turned your military service into a detective story,
much along the lines
GH> of her obsession with TRUE CRIMES and her pretense at being an expert on
that.
She thinks she has proved that I lied about my service because I
misspelled the base commander's last name with a K instead of a C. Moe baby
misspelled it today with the K instead of a C, what should I make of that?
Getting that close after 50 years with a guy I was NOT a golfing buddy with
is pretty damn good. She forgets she TOTALLY fukkked up on the dates that
American military were sent to Viet Nam being almost a decade before she
claimed they were there. There were U.S. military folks in Viet Nam almost 7
years before I enlisted. I served my FULL military obligation HONORABLY. Moe
pounds the walls DEMANDING that I SHOULD have reenlisted and done 20 tours
in Viet Nam like her daddy. You know the old adage like mother like
daughter. Given Maureen's behavior here, I can sort of understand why her
daddy kept choosing to remain in a war zone to avoid going home to that
insanity!
womanGoddess
Not at all Greg. If your master Kennie can't stand criticism of his
own claims, he should leave usenet. And, as usual for you, you forget
that in soc-veterans another person who was in the military handed
Kennie's fat ass to him about the ridiculous " winnable nuclear war in
Viet Nam" claim Kennie did in his usual braggdacio stupidity. And
again,as usual for you, you forget that any halfway knowledgable
person on the subject could have nailed Kennie on his lies, not just
me.
I, unlike you, use my brain. Yours apparently is fried due to your
illegal drug abuse.
Just like when you do your " I'm a victim" act where you piss and
moan how " unfairly" you've been treated by CPS and whomever for what
you did to a seven year old girl.
There are so many things i could nail Kennie on. His misogyny, his
racial bigotry, his childish retorts for a guy in his sixties and
his forging names to post his crap are only a few areas I could
easily get him on. Kenniepoo is hardly a boy scout,
And neither are you Greg.
I don't need my true crime study to figure out how you two are such
assholes, You both pretty much show what self-serving liars you are
time and time again.
And Greg, assuming I really wanted to do a background investigation
on you, I wonder what I would find that you won't mention.....
(( laughs))
womanGoddess
> "womanGoddess" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:96ebed21-bbae-4026...@v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > > You delude yourself constantly.
>
> > Maureen thinks that because her daddy served that SHE is an expert on
> > military service.
>
> MOE> I dont have to be an expert in military service to poke holes in your
> MOE> claims about your alleged AF service Kennie. I managed to dissect your
> MOE> claims and shown how full of shit you actually are.
>
> Maureen you are nothing but a legend in your own mind. You didn't poke
> holes in anything but your own credibility.
Projection noted.
>First you TRIED to claim that
> the bases I said I served at "DID NOT EXIST"
I claimed that? Show me the post where I supposedly claimed that.
Go on Kennie, I dare you to show the post where you claim I said
that.
> when you finally realize that
> you had screwed the pooch on that, you made a HUGE deal that I misspelled
> the base commander's last name with a K instead of a C.
I see your reading comprehension is your usual sorry assed. Or did
you forget I said BOTH the first and last names you misspelled.? Or is
that your usual editing of the facts to cover your fat ass? BTW you
also forgot his correct title at the time you supposedly served.
>You seemed to suffer
> some delusion that he and I should have been golfing buddies.
I never said that. I know, as you damn well do that CO's normally do
NOT fraternize with lower rank military personnel. You were the one
claiming Kallish was your CO. Problem is that as Brig Gen he would NOT
have had you, a NON-officer, in his staff. You deliberately misspelled
his name so I wouldn't find him in the online records, Hell, you even
made a little smug challenge for me to find his name and in your usual
BS act told nobody else at soc-veterans to help me out. Problem was by
doing so you alerted me you were trying to trick me and I found his
name by using alternate spellings.
Assuming, OC, that was you actual intention for the misspelling of
both his first and last name.
You also tried the lame excuse that those whose served with you are,
according to you, dead and you even in one mocking post to me asked me
if I wanted to know their dick sizes. Typical ad hom for you, sadly,
but another evidence to show your own obsession with penises.
> At one time
> the base had something like 30,000 people assigned there. 99% of us were NOT
> drinking buddies with the guy.
I never said you were. As Brig Gen he would have made the other
officers in the OC uncomfortable. You used him as a reference because
you knew he passed away years ago.
> It also was 50 YEARS AGO, Maureen. But you
> are STILL trying to make a HUGE deal out of it and claim it proves I never
> served.
I never said you NEVER served Kennie. I said your CLAIMS ABOUT your
AF service are questionable.
Your claims are weak Kennie. Your compulsion to lie and distort what
I actually said are sadly your pathetic attempts to cover your fat
ass. And you STILL seem to be upset at what I said about your claims
because you know I nailed your ass about your boastings.
Like I said, I don't have to have actually personally served in the
military to see your many lies. I am, as the phrase goes, a " military
brat", which is not BTW a derisive term. I was housed for a number of
years since my birth ON military bases, so I know about the BX and a
number of other things in base life. I also know from my father's
stories about his military experience, including his Nam experience,
or at least the parts he's willing to talk about. I can still visit
him ans SEE the trophies he kept at the shooting trials, the same
types of trials YOU claimed you won ( but, as usual for you, never
made specifics because you were afraid I could prove you once again to
be a goddamn liar).
So Kennie, diss me all you want. I really don't care. I showed you
lied and that's that.
Be a man about it for once.
womanGoddess
> On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 04:20:02 -0500, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com>
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There's a book titled " Air Force Diary" that I scrounged up some
years ago that I think had some details about Kallish. Unfortunately
I don't have the book now as my father sent it to an AF buddy of his
whose hobby includes painting air combat battle scenes.
(( shrugs))
Not that I need it as I pretty much nailed Kennie as the liar he is.
Remember when he though he was clever in using the " Gorge Fox" code
on me? He didn't think I would know it meant " get fucked". So much
for being a gentleman.
krp
MOE THE RETARD> There's a book titled " Air Force Diary" that I scrounged
up some
MOE THE RETARD> years ago that I think had some details about Kallish.
Unfortunately
MOE THE RETARD> I don't have the book now as my father sent it to an AF
buddy of his
MOE THE RETARD> whose hobby includes painting air combat battle scenes.
You have whooped and hollered on me for misspelling his name for the
past 6 months and here YOU do it. It is CALLISH. It is pronounced KAY-LISH
but spelled with a C.
It is NOT CALL- ISH.
womanGoddess
> "womanGoddess" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> news:f8b3fef6-5a08-4c90...@d10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
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> MOE THE RETARD> There's a book titled " Air Force Diary" that I scrounged
> up some
> MOE THE RETARD> years ago that I think had some details about Kallish.
> Unfortunately
> MOE THE RETARD> I don't have the book now as my father sent it to an AF
> buddy of his
> MOE THE RETARD> whose hobby includes painting air combat battle scenes.
>
> You have whooped and hollered on me
I'm curious. How can one " whoop and holler" on usenet? Are you by
any chance hearing things that aren't there?
> for misspelling his name for the
> past 6 months and here YOU do it. It is CALLISH. It is pronounced KAY-LISH
> but spelled with a C.
> It is NOT CALL- ISH.
You forgot you also misspelled his FIRST name Kennie. You called him
" NormaL" not NormaN".
At the risk of repeating myself, the fact alone that you referred to
the standard issue firearm by its civilian designation -- and the
WRONG NUMBER at that-- that was incredibly sloppy if your claim of
being a " weapons instructor" was true. An actual weapons instructor
wouldn't have made such a basic mistake.
And you made many mistakes in your claims of what you supposedly were
in the Air Force in your BRIEF service. Your posturings were so
pathetic that even _ I_ could show your lies.
And Kennie, that makes youa sorry assed liar,
It all boils down to your credibility, or lack of same, Kennie.
Any more excuses lardass?
womanGoddess
> "womanGoddess" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Hey Kenniepoo, ever think I deliberately misspelled it with a K to
mock you?
You dumbass.
Greegor
G > into a detective story, much along the lines
G > of her obsession with TRUE CRIMES and
G > her pretense at being an expert on that.
Moe > Not at all Greg. If your master Kennie
Moe > can't stand criticism of his own claims,
You actually consider this campaign you participate
in to be criticism?
Moe > he should leave usenet. And, as usual for
Moe > you, you forget that in soc-veterans another
Moe > person who was in the military handed
Moe > Kennie's fat ass to him about the ridiculous
Moe > " winnable nuclear war in Viet Nam" claim
Moe > Kennie did in his usual braggdacio stupidity.
Moe > And again,as usual for you, you forget that
Moe > any halfway knowledgable person on the
Moe > subject could have nailed Kennie on
Moe > his lies, not just me.
Now you're grousing about a political
difference of opinion as a "lie"?
Moe > I, unlike you, use my brain.
For a paperweight.
Moe > Yours apparently is fried due to your
Moe > illegal drug abuse.
When you use a fiction to feel superior, it boosts your ego?
Moe > Just like when you do your " I'm a victim" act
Moe > where you piss and moan how " unfairly"
Moe > you've been treated by CPS and whomever
Moe > for what you did to a seven year old girl.
Moe > There are so many things i could nail Kennie
Moe > on. His misogyny,
Your OPINION.
Moe > his racial bigotry,
Your OPINION.
Moe > his childish retorts for a guy in his sixties
Your OPINION
Moe > and his forging names to post his crap
A fraud on the part of your gang.
Moe > are only a few areas I could
Moe > easily get him on.
But considering you lie to yourself, what's the point?
Moe > Kenniepoo is hardly a boy scout,
Moe > And neither are you Greg.
Actually I got as far as Webelos.
Moe > I don't need my true crime study
Study? You mean FANDOM.
Moe > to figure out how you two are such
Moe > assholes, You both pretty much show
Moe > what self-serving liars you are time and time again.
Moe >
Moe > And Greg, assuming I really wanted to do a
Moe > background investigation on you, I wonder
Moe > what I would find that you won't mention.....
sour grapes
Greegor
Moe > Hey Kenniepoo, ever think I deliberately
Moe > misspelled it with a K to mock you?
But of course! LOL
Moe > You dumbass.
Kent Wills
<gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>G > Moe thinks she's turned your military service
>G > into a detective story, much along the lines
>G > of her obsession with TRUE CRIMES and
>G > her pretense at being an expert on that.
>
>Moe > �Not at all Greg. �If your master Kennie
>Moe > can't stand criticism of his own claims,
>
>You actually consider this campaign you participate
>in to be criticism?
Has Moe been elevated to the ranks of the MASSIVE COALITION
FORCE?
I wish someone would have let me know in advance. I would have
had lemon aide and cucumber sandwiches available.
>
>Moe > he should leave usenet. And, as usual for
>Moe > you, you forget that in soc-veterans another
>Moe > person who was in the military handed
>Moe > Kennie's fat ass to him about the ridiculous
>Moe > " winnable nuclear war in Viet Nam" claim
>Moe > Kennie did in his usual braggdacio stupidity.
>Moe > And again,as usual for you, you forget that
>Moe > any halfway knowledgable person on the
>Moe > subject could have nailed Kennie on
>Moe > his lies, not just me.
>
>Now you're grousing about a political
>difference of opinion as a "lie"?
Read the tread, junkie.
>
>Moe > �I, unlike you, use my brain.
>
>For a paperweight.
Is that the best your drug addled brain can muster?
>
>Moe > Yours apparently is fried due to your
>Moe > illegal drug abuse.
>
>When you use a fiction to feel superior, it boosts your ego?
Are you telling Moe, and everyone else reading, that you LIED
when you admitted you use and abuse illegal drugs?
If that is the claim you're presenting, please explain why you
thought lying about such a thing was a good idea.
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>Moe > Just like when you do your " I'm a victim" act
>Moe > where you piss and moan how " unfairly"
>Moe > you've been treated by CPS and whomever
>Moe > for what you did to a seven year old girl.
>
>Moe > There are so many things i could nail Kennie
>Moe > on. His misogyny,
>
>Your OPINION.
"Bitch you are GUTTER SLIME!"
-- Kenneth Robert Pangborn when he LOST a debate to a woman
named Carol Ann.
Message-ID: <19970101205...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
"We'd like to arrange for YOUR rape..."
-- Kenneth Robert Pangborn to Stacy Alexander, a woman in
the talk.rape newsgroup. He admits to authoring the threat, claiming
it was sarcasm and ridicule, here:
http://groups.google.com/group/milw.general/msg/0468b8085d0ee5b5
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>Moe > his racial bigotry,
>
>Your OPINION.
>
Proof, consisting of Pangborn's own writings, may be seen at
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com/race.html
Yes, I do enjoy the TRUTH site David maintains.
>Moe > his childish retorts for a guy �in his sixties
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>Your OPINION
Um, Ken is in his 60's. This isn't opinion.
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>Moe > and his �forging names to post his crap
>
>A fraud on the part of your gang.
It's been PROVED Pangborn uses remailers. As such, it stands to
reason he did, and does, it. The proof of his use of remailers can be
seen here:
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com/forgery.html
If you have anything to counter it, present your evidence for
review.
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>Moe > are only a few areas I could
>Moe > easily get him on.
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>But considering you lie to yourself, what's the point?
Where do you see a lie? Be specific.
>
>Moe > Kenniepoo is hardly a boy scout,
>Moe > �And neither are you Greg.
>
>Actually I got as far as Webelos.
>
>Moe > �I don't need my true crime study
>
>Study? You mean FANDOM.
Moe has used her knowledge from studying true crimes to show
EXACTLY how off base Pangborn is.
I, for one, welcome it. While I find the law of interest, I
don't have the knowledge of true crimes Moe has acquired from years of
study.
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>Moe > to figure out how you two are such
>Moe > assholes, You both pretty much show
>Moe > what self-serving liars you are time and time again.
>Moe >
>Moe > And Greg, assuming I really wanted to do a
>Moe > background investigation on you, I wonder
>Moe > what I would find that you won't mention.....
>
>sour grapes
You experience sour grapes, Greg? What an odd thing to claim.
Title: ST VS GREGORY HANSON
(DOB 05/22/1959)
CRIMINAL COMPLAINT 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 1 OWI 1ST
OTHER CITATION 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 2 SPEED
Disposition Status
GUILTY PLEA/DEFAULT
"That's the chick, but not the pic, zipperhead!"
Greg Hanson proving his bigotry towards Asians, by attacking my
first wife (deceased).
MID:<c6bac3f6-7a0e-4bf8-8ddd-d77bccfc6...@p49g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>
http://www.rsdb.org/search?q=zipperhead
Me: "I suspect your stalking is due to the use and abuse of illegal
drugs, Greg. Is the reason for your stalking the members of
alt.friends due to the use and abuse of illegal drugs?
Gregory Scott Hanson, wife beater and child abuser: "Of course."
"My family's case is for Neglect, but we are treated
in virtually every regard as child abusers, marked on
the Child Abuse registry, for example."
-- Gregory Scott Hanson, wife beater and child abuser
krp
On Nov 27, 12:56 pm, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> "womanGoddess" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> news:f8b3fef6-5a08-4c90...@d10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
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> MOE THE RETARD> There's a book titled " Air Force Diary" that I scrounged
> up some
> MOE THE RETARD> years ago that I think had some details about Kallish.
> Unfortunately
> MOE THE RETARD> I don't have the book now as my father sent it to an AF
> buddy of his
> MOE THE RETARD> whose hobby includes painting air combat battle scenes.
>
> You have whooped and hollered on me
I'm curious. How can one " whoop and holler" on usenet? Are you by
any chance hearing things that aren't there?
> for misspelling his name for the
> past 6 months and here YOU do it. It is CALLISH. It is pronounced KAY-LISH
> but spelled with a C.
> It is NOT CALL- ISH.
You forgot you also misspelled his FIRST name Kennie. You called him
" NormaL" not NormaN".
A rather OBVIOUS TYPO. You misspelled his last name several times now.
krp
G > Moe thinks she's turned your military service
G > into a detective story, much along the lines
G > of her obsession with TRUE CRIMES and
G > her pretense at being an expert on that.
Moe > Not at all Greg. If your master Kennie
Moe > can't stand criticism of his own claims,
You actually consider this campaign you participate
in to be criticism?
Moe > he should leave usenet. And, as usual for
Moe > you, you forget that in soc-veterans another
Moe > person who was in the military handed
Moe > Kennie's fat ass to him about the ridiculous
Moe > " winnable nuclear war in Viet Nam" claim
Moe > Kennie did in his usual braggdacio stupidity.
Moe > And again,as usual for you, you forget that
Moe > any halfway knowledgable person on the
Moe > subject could have nailed Kennie on
Moe > his lies, not just me.
GH> Now you're grousing about a political
GH> difference of opinion as a "lie"?
Greg the DATE at which U.S. military personnel were sent to Viet Nam is
NOT a political opinion, it is a FACT, and MOE for all her "CLAIMED"
expertise was WRONG about it by almost TWO DECADES. She doesn't address
that much. Well she can SCREAM and INSIST I produce an MID. That's the only
card she has to play.
womanGoddess
> G > Moe thinks she's turned your military service
> G > into a detective story, much along the lines
> G > of her obsession with TRUE CRIMES and
> G > her pretense at being an expert on that.
>
> Moe > Not at all Greg. If your master Kennie
> Moe > can't stand criticism of his own claims,
>
> You actually consider this campaign you participate
> in to be criticism?
When his claims are lies and people like me can prove it, yes it is
called criticism. He attacks others but he can't stand being exposed
for the lying little pissant he really is. He doesn't like it, tough.
And Kennie, if you wish to respond to my posts, do it yourself and
not hide behind Greg, you spineless coward. " Campaign" is a claim
Kennie would use Greg. You slipped up again.
Still taking orders from him Greg?
>
> Moe > he should leave usenet. And, as usual for
> Moe > you, you forget that in soc-veterans another
> Moe > person who was in the military handed
> Moe > Kennie's fat ass to him about the ridiculous
> Moe > " winnable nuclear war in Viet Nam" claim
> Moe > Kennie did in his usual braggdacio stupidity.
> Moe > And again,as usual for you, you forget that
> Moe > any halfway knowledgable person on the
> Moe > subject could have nailed Kennie on
> Moe > his lies, not just me.
>
> Now you're grousing about a political
> difference of opinion as a "lie"?
It wasn't about a political opinion you dumbass. It was about a
proposed MILITARY action and the consequences of such an attack. Had
you bothered to actually read the thread in soc.veterans, you would
have seen the actual discussion, not parrot what Kennie tells you to
post.
>
> Moe > I, unlike you, use my brain.
>
> For a paperweight.
Your mental processes are, sadly, as useful as a paperweight.
>
> Moe > Yours apparently is fried due to your
> Moe > illegal drug abuse.
>
> When you use a fiction to feel superior, it boosts your ego?
Living in a home where your father had human corpses in the cellar,
no doubt the preservative chemicals he used could be a factor on your
mental deficiency.
>
> Moe > Just like when you do your " I'm a victim" act
> Moe > where you piss and moan how " unfairly"
> Moe > you've been treated by CPS and whomever
> Moe > for what you did to a seven year old girl.
>
> Moe > There are so many things i could nail Kennie
> Moe > on. His misogyny,
>
> Your OPINION.
Fact. He has shown his hatred of women who stand up to him many
times. He is a misogynist.
>
> Moe > his racial bigotry,
>
> Your OPINION.
" Polack"? His attacks on Kent's Polish and Rom ancestry were never
racially bigoted?
Did someone give you an award for being Mister Denial?
>
> Moe > his childish retorts for a guy in his sixties
>
> Your OPINION
Partially. But others have said the same thing about his responses
being immature, so I am not alone in that assessment of him.
I could C&P posts Kennie has made, particularly when he is in one of
his shit fits, as proof, but such an effort would be wasted on you as
you won't ever admit that Kennie is the human shaped puss we see him
to be. To you, he shits gold.
>
> Moe > and his forging names to post his crap
>
> A fraud on the part of your gang.
Alt.atheism was not part of my " gang". BTW that is a Kennie claim.
Kennie, stop hiding behind Greg - again.
>
> Moe > are only a few areas I could
> Moe > easily get him on.
>
> But considering you lie to yourself, what's the point?
How have I "lied to"myself" Greg?
>
> Moe > Kenniepoo is hardly a boy scout,
> Moe > And neither are you Greg.
>
> Actually I got as far as Webelos.
You know what I was referring to Greg.
Have you paid all your court fines yet Greg?
Got a job yet Greg so you can actually support your sorry ass rather
than burdening it on Lisa?
>
> Moe > I don't need my true crime study
>
> Study? You mean FANDOM.
(( rolls eyes))
How stupid are you Greg? Seriously?
>
> Moe > to figure out how you two are such
> Moe > assholes, You both pretty much show
> Moe > what self-serving liars you are time and time again.
> Moe >
> Moe > And Greg, assuming I really wanted to do a
> Moe > background investigation on you, I wonder
> Moe > what I would find that you won't mention.....
>
> sour grapes
Nice post edit, coward. Your usual crap though.