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If ken pangbor of the a-team and krpconsulting has two "Cum Laude" college degrees in psychology, why isn't he a licensed psychologist in Florida?

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Dan Sullivan

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Jul 13, 2009, 12:39:12 PM7/13/09
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It doesn't make sense.
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Dan Sullivan

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Jul 13, 2009, 1:14:17 PM7/13/09
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It doesn't make sense.

mmrpurdue

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On Jul 13, 12:14 pm, Dan Sullivan <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote:
>  It doesn't make sense.

What does make sense is that krp has been committing fraud.

Dan Sullivan

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mmrpurdue

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???

mmrpurdue

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On Jul 16, 10:18 am, mmrpurdue <mmrpur...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ???

why are you running from this question?

Dan Sullivan

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Jul 19, 2009, 8:07:16 AM7/19/09
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Why can't ken pangborn get a simple license?

What requirements are lacking?

krp

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"Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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NUMBER 73> Why can't ken pangborn get a simple license?

I have a driver's license. Have had since I was 16.

NUMBER 72> What requirements are lacking?

None quite obviously.

Dan Sullivan

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"krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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So you have a "Cum Laude" drivers license?


mmrpurdue

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Jul 19, 2009, 8:46:04 AM7/19/09
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On Jul 19, 7:40 am, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote in message

A drivers license is not "Cum Laude" college degrees in psychology.
But it is refreshing to see you admit that all you do have.

krp

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"Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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>>> NUMBER 73> Why can't ken pangborn get a simple license?
>>
>> I have a driver's license. Have had since I was 16.
>>
>> NUMBER 72> What requirements are lacking?
>>
>> None quite obviously.
>
> So you have a "Cum Laude" drivers license?

Compared to you? Most likely!


Dan Sullivan

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Jul 19, 2009, 11:45:34 AM7/19/09
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It doesn't make sense.

Why can't ken pangborn get a psychologist's license in Florida, where
he LIVES!!!

David Alex Moore

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Jul 21, 2009, 7:50:38 AM7/21/09
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On Jul 19, 7:07 am, Dan Sullivan <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote:
> Why can't ken pangborn get a simple license?
>
> What requirements are lacking?

ken, you skirted this issue, care to explain it now?

Dan Sullivan

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Dan Sullivan

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Dan Sullivan

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It doesn't make sense.

Greegor

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Aug 5, 2009, 6:43:33 PM8/5/09
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KBW > why are you running from this question?

You posted it only to ascps, and Ken's usenet provider doesn't carry
it.

By the way, I've been asking Dan a question for awhile.


Daniel J Sullivan III AKA Puppet Bear refers to kids but means his
ADULT DAUGHTER

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.thebird.copwatch/msg/baf306e8b2a7716b

DS > Next grag will be claiming that someone is sending
DS > him reports about the age of your children.

Dan referred to children but he's talking about
his ADULT DAUGHTER, KLS, who as a child
was the victim of Dan's Puppet Bear condom.

Dan himself posted her statements several times.
Daniel J. Sullivan III (61), KLS (25) and SMS (60)
all live in Patchogue, NY. Dan claimed KLS was
3 when she made the Puppet Bear statements.

So, WHAT YEAR was KLS 3 years old?

And WHAT YEAR did Dan claim she was 3 years old?

Feb 2002 "My daddy touched me with the puppet bear in the toilet."
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/52b49e5611d619ea

April 2004 "My daddy touched me with the puppet bear in the toilet."
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/d15f8e338226b780

July 2007 "My daddy touches me with the puppet bear in the toilet."
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.foster-parents/msg/2d04c26b08f9f2b9

krp

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"Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> KBW > why are you running from this question?

> You posted it only to ascps, and Ken's usenet provider doesn't carry
> it.

That's the GAME these LOSERS play. Post it in a newsgroup I can't read
and then LOUDLY PROCLAIM that I am afraid of their questions and proclaim
themselves as having won a GREAT victory. They are AFRAID to post their
bullshit where I CAN respond to it.


Dan Sullivan

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On Aug 5, 6:49 pm, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:92158383-fd3e-44dd...@k30g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > KBW > why are you running from this question?
> > You posted it only to ascps, and Ken's usenet provider doesn't carry
> > it.
>
>     That's the GAME these LOSERS play. Post it in a newsgroup I can't read

Go to your local library and read whatever you need to read.

Driving directions to the library, 5939 Main Street, New Port Richey,
FL 34652

3.4 mi – about 8 mins

Suggested routes

3648 Cockatoo Dr, New Port Richey, FL 34652

1. Head north on Cockatoo Dr toward Mockingbird Dr
341 ft
2. Turn right at Mockingbird Dr
223 ft
3. Turn left at Madison St
0.2 mi
4. Turn left at FL-54/State Rd 54
0.4 mi
5. Continue straight to stay on FL-54/State Rd 54
469 ft
6. Turn right at Grand Blvd
2.4 mi
7. Turn right at Main St

Destination will be on the left

That should shut you up, kenny boy.

Greegor

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Aug 5, 2009, 7:50:36 PM8/5/09
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How old is KLS, Dan?
How old was she when she made the Puppet Bear comments?
3 years old or 8 years old?
What year was that?

http://www.whitepages.com/search/ReverseAddress?street=6+S+Pine+lake+Drive&where=Patchogue%2C+NY

krp

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BIG BAD BRAVE DAVEY MOORE - INTERNET BADASS
Newsgroups: alt.support.child-protective-services
From: freedom <aboutKRP...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:51:36 +0200
Local: Tues, Jul 14 2009 11:51 am


DDM> If anyone has time, I could use some help. I want to add a page to
DDM> http://www.aboutken directed toward people who have already
DDM> been defrauded by Ken. Including this FTC information, BBB, his local
DDM> Chamber of Commerce, etc. Work has become very busy as I have taken an
DDM> extra project. If someone could compile something I would greatly
DDM> appreciate it!

And Sullivan SWEARS hew has absolutely NO association with David Moore
AT ALL! They hatch the little PLOT to harass me in a newsgroup I don't read.
BIG BRAVE GUYS! How TYPICAL of these people.

krp

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"Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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>
> > KBW > why are you running from this question?
> > You posted it only to ascps, and Ken's usenet provider doesn't carry
> > it.
>
> That's the GAME these LOSERS play. Post it in a newsgroup I can't read

DJS#3> Go to your local library and read whatever you need to read.

Why - can't you post to the groups I DO read, Danny? Are you
AFRAID???????? Such a SISSY!


Dan Sullivan

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"krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:583913a2-c7cc-4efe...@g6g2000vbr.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > KBW > why are you running from this question?
>> > You posted it only to ascps, and Ken's usenet provider doesn't carry
>> > it.
>>
>> That's the GAME these LOSERS play. Post it in a newsgroup I can't read
>
> DJS#3> Go to your local library and read whatever you need to read.
>
> Why -

I don't care if you read what I post.


Dan Sullivan

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"Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Gregory Scott Hanson
DOB 05/22/1959,
1071 F Ave NW
Cedar Rapids, IA 52405


Dan Sullivan

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On Aug 5, 9:36 pm, "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote:
> "Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:21bd2f90-39dd-4d94...@32g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
>
> > How old is KLS, Dan?
> > How old was she when she made the Puppet Bear comments?
> > 3 years old or 8 years old?
> > What year was that?
>
> >http://www.whitepages.com/search/ReverseAddress?street=6+S+Pine+lake+...

>
> Gregory Scott Hanson
> DOB 05/22/1959,
> 1071 F Ave NW
> Cedar Rapids, IA 52405

http://www.iowacourts.state.ia.us/ESAWebApp/DefaultFrame

Dan Sullivan

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Greegor

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G > How old is KLS, Dan?
G > How old was she when she made the Puppet Bear comments?
G > 3 years old or 8 years old?
G > What year was that?

http://www.whitepages.com/search/ReverseAddress?street=6+S+Pine+lake+Drive&where=Patchogue%2C+NY

DJS > Gregory Scott Hanson
DJS > DOB 05/22/1959,
DJS > 1071 F Ave NW
DJS > Cedar Rapids, IA 52405

Played out Dan.

But didn't you say KLS was 3 back in 1993?
How could that be since she's 25 now?

Greegor

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DJS3 > I don't care if you read what I post.

Coward.

krp

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"Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> DJS3 > I don't care if you read what I post.

> Coward.

That's the defining characteristic of Sullivan's life!


Dan Sullivan

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"krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Why am I supposed to care if you read what I write, kenny boy?


whitevamp

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On Aug 5, 5:49 pm, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com> wrote in message

I explained to you how you can read alt newsgroups Kennie. Your
excuse that your ISP doesn't allow it is a bad excuse for you to hide
behind. An ISP is not the same as a newsgroup reader.

Moe
Eternal FOREVER KNIGHT fan
" A vampire cop? REALLY?"
"http://home.earthlink.net/~19ranger57/blies.htm

Know your scum--- http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com

whitevamp

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On Aug 6, 7:47 am, "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote:
> "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> news:xwxem.867$Jg....@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
>
>
>
> > "Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> >news:e2bacf7a-ca13-4b8b...@w41g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> DJS3 > I don't care if you read what I post.
>
> >> Coward.
>
> >    That's the defining characteristic of Sullivan's life!
>
> Why am I supposed to care if you read what I write, kenny boy?

Probably because its important in his sucky life, just as its
important for graggie to try to get me to respond to his posts.

Most people have a life outside of the internet. These two don't have
much of a real life, so this is their only " hope".

krp

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"whitevamp" <fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > KBW > why are you running from this question?
> > You posted it only to ascps, and Ken's usenet provider doesn't carry
> > it.

> That's the GAME these LOSERS play. Post it in a newsgroup I can't read
> and then LOUDLY PROCLAIM that I am afraid of their questions and proclaim
> themselves as having won a GREAT victory. They are AFRAID to post their
> bullshit where I CAN respond to it.

MOE THE IMPALER> I explained to you how you can read alt newsgroups Kennie.
Your
MOE THE IMPALER> excuse that your ISP doesn't allow it is a bad excuse for
you to hide
MOE THE IMPALER> behind. An ISP is not the same as a newsgroup reader.

You "explained?" Now THERE is a LAUGH! Why is it MY duty to chase down
some intellectually flatulent asshole's driven in the corners in which he
TRIES to hide it? Just because he is a coward and a sneak and he PLAY ACTS
at being a Usenet BADASS? He makes posts and then declares himself the
VICTOR because I don't answer his bullshit? That's a little GAME as old as
ARPANET. It's the game of WEENIES. NOW you old BAG, before you, as the
reigning IDIOT of Usenet declare the word "WEENIE" to be a "GENITAL"
reference which you ALWAYS DO, it is, in point of fact, TOTALLY unrelated to
genetilia.

FOR USENET TWITS LIKE MAUREEN McALLISTER:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/weenie

WEENIE

3. Slang. an insignificant, disliked person.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/weenie

3: nerd <computer weenies>

http://www.answers.com/topic/weenie

Slang. A person, especially a man, who is regarded as being weak and
ineffectual.

As to Dannnie Sullivan NUMBER 3 - perhaps "Douche bag" would be more
accurate?


Dan Sullivan

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"krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> "whitevamp" <fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:745c5bbf-bf7e-4d80...@v20g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
>> > KBW > why are you running from this question?
>> > You posted it only to ascps, and Ken's usenet provider doesn't carry
>> > it.
>
>> That's the GAME these LOSERS play. Post it in a newsgroup I can't read
>> and then LOUDLY PROCLAIM that I am afraid of their questions and proclaim
>> themselves as having won a GREAT victory. They are AFRAID to post their
>> bullshit where I CAN respond to it.
>
> MOE THE IMPALER> I explained to you how you can read alt newsgroups
> Kennie. Your
> MOE THE IMPALER> excuse that your ISP doesn't allow it is a bad excuse for
> you to hide
> MOE THE IMPALER> behind. An ISP is not the same as a newsgroup reader.
>
> You "explained?" Now THERE is a LAUGH! Why is it MY duty to chase down
> some intellectually flatulent asshole's driven in the corners in which he
> TRIES to hide it?

My posts are in a public forum.

No chasing involved.


Greegor

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DJS3 > I don't care if you read what I post.

G > Coward.

KRP > That's the defining characteristic of Sullivan's life!

DS > Why am I supposed to care if you read what I write, kenny boy?

Moe > Probably because its important in his sucky life,

Moe can't get a date with either gender.
Claims a TV Hunk as proof of her sexuality.
She claims fandom for TRUE-CRIME stories as EXPERTISE!
Now Moe is posing as an expert on quality of life??

Moe > just as its important for graggie to try to
Moe > get me to respond to his posts.

Moe > Most people have a life outside of the internet.
Moe > These two don't have much of a real life,
Moe > so this is their only " hope".

Moe stalked a guy named Glen for 8 years online.
She can't get a date.
She says others "don't have much of a real life" ??

Phantom Phreak

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"Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> KBW > why are you running from this question?
>
> You posted it only to ascps, and Ken's usenet provider doesn't carry
> it.

What makes you lie when you know your lies will be exposed?

Message-ID:
<92158383-fd3e-44dd...@k30g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>
References:
<7f557705-4e92-4615...@c1g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>
<d1767588-ff9e-4242...@c29g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>

The bit you quote did not come from Kent. Since you think everyone is
Kent, you of course claimed it was him. Since it's another of your lies,
you can't offer any proof.

Here's PROOF that you are LYING about the author.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/65a682391cb1fe40


Here's the entire thread. Ken is not a part of it, so his being able to
read the question doesn't matter. The question, as can be seen in the
tread, was dirrected at you, not Ken. Has your drug use made you think you
are Ken?

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/browse_thread/thread/1fceaeae61182d20/fc26946bc8339e13?q=

Why did you lie about this?

And you claim Kent lives in Arkansas. Since the person you are lying and
claiming is Kent has an IP address showing he or she is in Iowa, you either
lied about Kent living in Arkansas, or are lying about Kent living in Iowa.
Are you going to be brave enough to admit which one your drug use caused you
to lie about?

>
> By the way, I've been asking Dan a question for awhile.
>
>

So? What does that have to do with your lie about who authored the question
and to whom the question was asked?


Phantom Phreak

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You are not Greg, you fat twit.

Greg was asked the question, not you. Greg lied, as he always does.

You, being the stupid slob you are, fell for it.


Phantom Phreak

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"Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> How old is KLS, Dan?

How old was Lisa's daughter the first time you sexually abused her, Gregory
Scott Hanson? Was she six? Seven?

Why did you molest Lisa's pre-pubescent daughter?


Phantom Phreak

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"Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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You once claimed Dan lives in New York. Now it's Iowa?

Phantom Phreak

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"krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> BIG BAD BRAVE DAVEY MOORE - INTERNET BADASS
> Newsgroups: alt.support.child-protective-services
> From: freedom <aboutKRP...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com>
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:51:36 +0200
> Local: Tues, Jul 14 2009 11:51 am
>
>
> DDM> If anyone has time, I could use some help. I want to add a page to
> DDM> http://www.aboutken directed toward people who have already
> DDM> been defrauded by Ken. Including this FTC information, BBB, his
> local
> DDM> Chamber of Commerce, etc. Work has become very busy as I have taken
> an
> DDM> extra project. If someone could compile something I would greatly
> DDM> appreciate it!
>
> And Sullivan SWEARS hew has absolutely NO association with David Moore
> AT ALL!

He's posted he's never been in contact with David Moore. What you offer
shows nothing to counter his claim.

>They hatch the little PLOT to harass me in a newsgroup I don't read. BIG
>BRAVE GUYS! How TYPICAL of these people.
>

How's the booze, Pangborn?


Phantom Phreak

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"Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> DJS3 > I don't care if you read what I post.
>
> Coward.

Apathy regarding what another reads is cowardly? How?


Phantom Phreak

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"Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>DJS3 > I don't care if you read what I post.
>
>G > Coward.
>
>KRP > That's the defining characteristic of Sullivan's life!
>
>DS > Why am I supposed to care if you read what I write, kenny boy?
>
>Moe > Probably because its important in his sucky life,
>
>Moe can't get a date with either gender.

You are in the minority with your view that little girls, around age six and
seven, are sexually attractive, Gregory Scott Hanson.

>
>Moe > Most people have a life outside of the internet.
>Moe > These two don't have much of a real life,
>Moe > so this is their only " hope".
>
>Moe stalked a guy named Glen for 8 years online.

Prove your FACT CLAIM or admit it's one of your lies inspired by your drug
use.

>She can't get a date.

Prove your FACT CLAIM or admit it's one of your lies inspired by your drug
use.

>She says others "don't have much of a real life" ??

You don't have a life. Outside of thinking everyone is Kent, and following
him all over the Internet, you have offered no proof that you have a life of
any sort.


Phantom Phreak

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"whitevamp" <fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 5, 5:49 pm, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> "Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:92158383-fd3e-44dd...@k30g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > KBW > why are you running from this question?
>> > You posted it only to ascps, and Ken's usenet provider doesn't carry
>> > it.
>>
>> That's the GAME these LOSERS play. Post it in a newsgroup I can't read
>> and then LOUDLY PROCLAIM that I am afraid of their questions and proclaim
>> themselves as having won a GREAT victory. They are AFRAID to post their
>> bullshit where I CAN respond to it.
>
> I explained to you how you can read alt newsgroups Kennie. Your
>excuse that your ISP doesn't allow it is a bad excuse for you to hide
>behind. An ISP is not the same as a newsgroup reader.

Many ISPs offer Usenet. They aren't the same, of course, but I recall
reading that Pangborn thinks Usenet is NOT a part of the Internet. He may
not actually understand that an ISP and NSP aren't the same thing, even if
they are owned by the same company. He never finished high school you know.
Flunked out in 10th grade.

Yes, I have proof that will stand up in a court of law, if needed.


krp

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"Phantom Phreak" <U.l...@U.lose.net> wrote in message
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>
>>
>> DDM> If anyone has time, I could use some help. I want to add a page to
>> DDM> http://www.aboutken directed toward people who have already
>> DDM> been defrauded by Ken. Including this FTC information, BBB, his
>> local
>> DDM> Chamber of Commerce, etc. Work has become very busy as I have taken
>> an
>> DDM> extra project. If someone could compile something I would greatly
>> DDM> appreciate it!
>>
>> And Sullivan SWEARS hew has absolutely NO association with David
>> Moore AT ALL!

> He's posted he's never been in contact with David Moore. What you offer
> shows nothing to counter his claim.

Another bullshit pointof origin. Why am I not surprised?

>>They hatch the little PLOT to harass me in a newsgroup I don't read. BIG
>>BRAVE GUYS! How TYPICAL of these people.

> How's the booze, Pangborn?

Not my month to keep track of it for you. Are you missing some? Don't
worry, you'' eventually remember where you left it.

whitevamp

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Aug 6, 2009, 4:38:42 PM8/6/09
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On Aug 6, 9:43 am, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "whitevamp" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>
> news:745c5bbf-bf7e-4d80...@v20g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > KBW > why are you running from this question?
> > > You posted it only to ascps, and Ken's usenet provider doesn't carry
> > > it.
> > That's the GAME these LOSERS play. Post it in a newsgroup I can't read
> > and then LOUDLY PROCLAIM that I am afraid of their questions and proclaim
> > themselves as having won a GREAT victory. They are AFRAID to post their
> > bullshit where I CAN respond to it.
>
> MOE THE IMPALER> I explained to you how you can read alt newsgroups Kennie.
> Your
> MOE THE IMPALER> excuse that your ISP doesn't allow it is a bad excuse for
> you to hide
> MOE THE IMPALER> behind. An ISP is not the same as a newsgroup reader.
>
>     You "explained?" Now THERE is a LAUGH! Why is it MY duty to chase down
> some intellectually flatulent asshole's driven in the corners in which he
> TRIES to hide it?

Your bloviating aside, why would you seek out every Sullivan post?
Why is that so important to you?

Its very simple Kennie. Your excuse about your ISP doesn't wash
because you yourself deliberately crosspost to alt groups.

Like you just tried here with the alt usenet kooks group.

For you its all about excuses NOT to do the responsible thing. You
accused Sullivan of crossposting to alt friends but your doggie
graggie admitted he was the actual culprit. Any apology from you to
Sullivan yet? Nope.

And, As I've explained before, you can read alt newsgroups if you use
the right newsreader. But you won't do that simple thing.

> Just because he is a coward and a sneak and he PLAY ACTS
> at being a Usenet BADASS? He makes posts and then declares himself the
> VICTOR because I don't answer his bullshit?  That's a little GAME as old as
> ARPANET. It's the game of WEENIES.

As opposed to the games you and graggie play on usenet Kennie? The
bullshit you spew that was so bad AOL suspended your account. And AOL
is notorious for, among other things, hiding child predators.


> NOW you old BAG, before you, as the
> reigning IDIOT of Usenet declare the word "WEENIE" to be a "GENITAL"
> reference which you ALWAYS DO, it is, in point of fact, TOTALLY unrelated to
> genetilia.

" genetilia"? Try a dictionary spelling Kennie.

As for me being an " old bag" Kennie, I sure am not as old as you or
greg. Not that it matters, but you do seem to be running out of ad
homs about me.

The fact still remains. You know how to read alt group posts but you
refuse to install a reader or use Google. You're hiding behind your
feeble and flaccid Verizon excuse.

>
> FOR USENET TWITS LIKE MAUREEN McALLISTER:
>
> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/weenie
>
> WEENIE
>
> 3. Slang. an insignificant, disliked person.
>
> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/weenie
>
> 3: nerd <computer weenies>
>
> http://www.answers.com/topic/weenie
>
> Slang. A person, especially a man, who is regarded as being weak and
> ineffectual.
>

So?

>     As to Dannnie Sullivan NUMBER 3 - perhaps "Douche bag" would be more
> accurate?

How about slang words describing you Kennie? I can think of a few,
plus more legit words like misogynist and hypocrite.

Tell me, how did you react when your daughter was being abused by her
husband? Did you tell her that she " provoked" the attacks and that
she " asked for it"? Or did you do like you did with your porno whore
daughter, nothing at all? Because in reality you're a coward.

whitevamp

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Aug 6, 2009, 4:43:41 PM8/6/09
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On Aug 6, 12:47 pm, "Phantom Phreak" <U.l...@U.lose.net> wrote:
> "whitevamp" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

Sheesh. Even when i first started out with a 486 DX2 I knew the
difference between an ISP and an NSP. "Course then you also had to
know DOS commands and input the internet connection settings yourself.

krp

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Aug 7, 2009, 7:48:38 AM8/7/09
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"whitevamp" <fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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MOE THE IMPALER> Sheesh. Even when i first started out with a 486 DX2 I
knew the
MOE THE IMPALER> difference between an ISP and an NSP. "Course then you also
had to
MOE THE IMPALER> know DOS commands and input the internet connection
settings yourself.

In many cases the NEWS provider has been the Service Provider. That's
still true of MOST major service providers. It IS the case with Verizon. It
used to be with AOL, WorldNet, EarthLink, and many others. Only in YOUR
WORLD is it always different.

whitevamp

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Aug 7, 2009, 9:34:36 PM8/7/09
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On Aug 7, 6:48 am, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "whitevamp" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

Kennie, you can install a newsreader or use Google, dumbass..

Any more excuses?

krp

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Aug 8, 2009, 5:30:42 AM8/8/09
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"whitevamp" <fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> MOE THE IMPALER> Sheesh. Even when i first started out with a 486 DX2 I
> knew the
> MOE THE IMPALER> difference between an ISP and an NSP. "Course then you
> also had to
> MOE THE IMPALER> know DOS commands and input the internet connection
> settings yourself.
>
> In many cases the NEWS provider has been the Service Provider. That's
> still true of MOST major service providers. It IS the case with Verizon.
> It
> used to be with AOL, WorldNet, EarthLink, and many others. Only in YOUR
> WORLD is it always different.

MOE THE COMPUTER EXPERT> Kennie, you can install a newsreader or use
Google, dumbass..

And connect through WHOSE news server, Maureen? I HAVE a newsreader
DUMBSHITT! WHY would I want to go to GMAIL????????? Thank you for your
SUPREME COMPUTER EXPERTISE starting with your 486 machine. <yawn> Ever use
an 8088 machine? An XT? How about a desktop system than ran on a CARD
reader? Honeybuns, by the time you picked up your 486 - I had been working
with computers for 20 years. But YOU delude yourself into THINKING you
invented them. Chew on this. I was sent by my employer to the IBM programmer
school in Tarrytown, NY in 1970. I was ranked in the top 5 in a class of
100. BUT your DADDY was rated NUMBER 1... Yet I shy away from making the
grandiose claims you ascribe to yourself. I *could* do lots of things, IF I
wanted to. Get over your delusion that you are my BOSS!!!!!


whitevamp

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Aug 8, 2009, 7:02:19 AM8/8/09
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On Aug 8, 4:30 am, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "whitevamp" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>
> news:bae7e2c4-cb32-4b11...@v2g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > MOE THE IMPALER> Sheesh. Even when i first started out with a 486 DX2 I
> > knew the
> > MOE THE IMPALER> difference between an ISP and an NSP. "Course then you
> > also had to
> > MOE THE IMPALER> know DOS commands and input the internet connection
> > settings yourself.
>
> > In many cases the NEWS provider has been the Service Provider. That's
> > still true of MOST major service providers. It IS the case with Verizon.
> > It
> > used to be with AOL, WorldNet, EarthLink, and many others. Only in YOUR
> > WORLD is it always different.
>
> MOE THE COMPUTER EXPERT>  Kennie, you can install a newsreader or use
> Google, dumbass..
>
>     And connect through WHOSE news server, Maureen? I HAVE a newsreader
> DUMBSHITT! WHY would I want to go to GMAIL????????? Thank you for your
> SUPREME COMPUTER EXPERTISE starting with your 486 machine.  <yawn> Ever use
> an 8088 machine? An XT? How about a desktop system than ran on a CARD
> reader? Honeybuns, by the time you picked up your 486 - I had been working
> with computers for 20 years.

I highly doubt that Kennie. The fact that you make excuses to not
read alt groups you crosspost to when any simpleton like your doggie
greg knows how to install a newsreader independent of your ISP.

Anyone can download a newsreader that lets you access alt groups.
And yet you need the EXCUSE that you can't " read" alt groups though
you do post TO them.

Sorry Kennie. I don't buy that for one minute. Sell your act
somewhere else.


> But YOU delude yourself into THINKING you
> invented them.

Liar. I never said I did.

You do realize, don't you, that you would be more credible if you
didn't resort to these MANY LIES yo do? Is this some sort of
complusion for you that you have to lie at every opportunity?

Liar. I never said that. The only thing you " invent" are your lies
and accusations, lardass. And excuses NOT to do the obvious and simple
things.

> Chew on this. I was sent by my employer to the IBM programmer
> school in Tarrytown, NY in 1970. I was ranked in the top 5 in a class of
> 100.

Proof?


>BUT your DADDY was rated NUMBER 1..

Liar. My father then was still in the AF doing what you PRETENDED you
did.

So you now claim to have been trained as an IBM programmer, is that
right Kennie? Really?

(( laughing))

This ought to be good.

(( sits down and waits for Kennie to lie in detail about his "
expertise"))


> . Yet I shy away from making the
> grandiose claims you ascribe to yourself.

BWAHAHAHAHA!! You just frigging DID you idiot!! HYPOCRITE!!

BTW I didn't make " grandiose claims about" myself, I just stated
facts. I started out learning on a 486 and did some messing around on
an 8088 ( remember those MASSIVE floppy drives?). Before then I did
some basics on a Commodore 64.

BTW you didn't even know that 2600 was a hacker magazine. Ooops!!


> I *could* do lots of things, IF I
> wanted to. Get over your delusion that you are my BOSS!!!!!

If I was your boss I'd fire you for constant lying and incompetence.

Why so touchy Kennie? This is, after all, just a discussion on your
inability to read alt groups.

Hell blobbo, if you wanted to read alt groups, you know damn well
what to do. You're just making lame excuses, again.

IBM programmer my Auntie Elizabeth!!!

krp

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Aug 8, 2009, 7:10:10 AM8/8/09
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"whitevamp" <fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> > MOE THE IMPALER> Sheesh. Even when i first started out with a 486 DX2 I
> > knew the
> > MOE THE IMPALER> difference between an ISP and an NSP. "Course then you
> > also had to
> > MOE THE IMPALER> know DOS commands and input the internet connection
> > settings yourself.
>
> > In many cases the NEWS provider has been the Service Provider. That's
> > still true of MOST major service providers. It IS the case with Verizon.
> > It
> > used to be with AOL, WorldNet, EarthLink, and many others. Only in YOUR
> > WORLD is it always different.
>
> MOE THE COMPUTER EXPERT> Kennie, you can install a newsreader or use
> Google, dumbass..
>
> And connect through WHOSE news server, Maureen? I HAVE a newsreader
> DUMBSHITT! WHY would I want to go to GMAIL????????? Thank you for your
> SUPREME COMPUTER EXPERTISE starting with your 486 machine. <yawn> Ever use
> an 8088 machine? An XT? How about a desktop system than ran on a CARD
> reader? Honeybuns, by the time you picked up your 486 - I had been working
> with computers for 20 years.

MOE THE IMPALER> I highly doubt that Kennie. The fact that you make excuses
to not
MOE THE IMPALER> read alt groups you crosspost to when any simpleton like
your doggie
MOE THE IMPALER> greg knows how to install a newsreader independent of your
ISP.

<yawn> Still clinging to your psychotic delusion that YOU invented the
computer, are ya, Maureen? How is your 8 year stalking of Glenn coming,
Moe????

Dan Sullivan

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Aug 8, 2009, 8:09:05 AM8/8/09
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On Aug 8, 7:10 am, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>     <yawn> Still clinging to your psychotic delusion that YOU invented the
> computer, are ya, Maureen? How is your 8 year stalking of Glenn coming,
> Moe????

How about your psychotic delusion, kenny boy, that you were "the
pioneer in recognizing false claims of child abuse in child custody,
divorce cases, and he developed the case strategies others try to
imitate today?"

You actually believe that YOU invented the strategy of disproving a
false allegation?

How is your 30+ year old scamming of the public coming, kenny boy?

whitevamp

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Aug 8, 2009, 8:17:46 AM8/8/09
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On Aug 8, 6:10 am, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "whitevamp" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

I never said I " invented the computer" Kennie.

Keep on lying though. It shows your lack of credibility.

As to the asshole who ripped me off, he served six month in federal
prison. He got what he deserved.

whitevamp

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Aug 8, 2009, 8:19:23 AM8/8/09
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On Aug 8, 7:09 am, Dan Sullivan <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote:
> On Aug 8, 7:10 am, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> >     <yawn> Still clinging to your psychotic delusion that YOU invented the
> > computer, are ya, Maureen? How is your 8 year stalking of Glenn coming,
> > Moe????
>
> How about your psychotic delusion, kenny boy, that you were "the
> pioneer in recognizing false claims of child abuse in child custody,
> divorce cases, and he developed the case strategies others try to
> imitate today?"
>

Really? He said that?

And he talks about ME like that, poor thang...


> You actually believe that YOU invented the strategy of disproving a
> false allegation?
>
> How is your 30+ year old scamming of the public coming, kenny boy?


Judging by one posting thread, he seems to be in some sort of panic
about former clients of his making complaints about him.

whitevamp

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Aug 8, 2009, 9:55:19 AM8/8/09
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SOme interetsing Kenneth Pangborn related stuff:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1571/is_n23_v12/ai_18375279/

(( begin cut and paste))

Kenneth Pangborn, who heads Men International, hopes to alter the
terms of that game. Pangborn was a radio news anchor in Salt Lake City
when he heard from a social worker in Wisconsin that his divorced wife
was mistreating their three daughters. He went to court and won
custody of the girls after a battle that left him financially wrecked.

What Pangborn seeks to do is debunk "the fables" told about men, "the
constant venom spread by feminists and picked up by the media." The
myths include stories long since proved erroneous but still held as
true by the media, such as the notion that on Superbowl Sunday abuse
of wives and girlfriends becomes pandemic because men are prone to
violence as they engage in masculine ritual.

(( ends cut and paste))

Sounds a little like Kennie did some legal work Without a law license.

http://www.skeptictank.org/pr/prpt126.htm

(( begin copy & paste))

Coincidentally, the day after the picket, I received a strange and
vaguely threatening email from a Kenneth Pangborn, who I understand
lives in Florida very close to Clearwater. He is apparently some
nutcase in his own right, I don't know if he's a Scientologist or not,
but he has a history of harassing people. He is so special, there's a
website dedicated to him:

http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:www.anet.com/~freedom/whoisken.html+Kenneth+Pangborn&hl=en

He apparently highjacked somebody's email address from AOL, and has
been reported to the local police department, just to start a paper
trail in case his messages continue.

(( end copy and paste))

Well Kennie?

whitevamp

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Aug 8, 2009, 10:43:02 AM8/8/09
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> http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:www.anet.com/~freedom/whoisken.h...

>
> He apparently highjacked somebody's email address from AOL, and has
> been reported to the local police department, just to start a paper
> trail in case his messages continue.
>
> (( end copy and paste))
>
> Well Kennie?
>
> Moe
>  Eternal FOREVER KNIGHT fan
> " A vampire cop? REALLY?"
> "http://home.earthlink.net/~19ranger57/blies.htm
>
> Know your scum---http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com

http://anteater17.wordpress.com/2008/01/12/chapters-53-54/

(( begin copy & paste))

I must have googled “PPG” or something related to it, because I found
a website sponsored by a group called the A-Team, in Atlanta, which
does PS testing and evalua-tion. But inasmuch as they featured a
lengthy expostulation on the website, including some claims that
didn’t make sense to me, I responded to it, and sent it back. In turn
I was responded to by one of their people, and before long I was
actually talking to him— a PS evaluators— by telephone. His name was
Kenneth Pangborn.

This account of our exchanges could be very lengthy, but instead I’ll
only share a couple highlights of it. I’ll report what he said,
because you’ll be able to glean much of what I said from what he said
to me.

6-20-06

********************************************

From him to me:

If you had a court ordered PPG assessment you had a piss poor lawyer.
The person who

gave you that test under that condition— I feel is a quack. As part
of a plea deal it was bone-headed on your lawyer’s part. You should
have come to us first. Yeah we’re damn expensive — but we do NOT set
you up. I worry when you say that he used “tapes” that you were tested
on at best second generation hardware. We’re using 4th generation
gear… relying exclusively on the PPG is dumb. Arousal is only one
piece of the puzzle. You have run afoul of exactly what I was talking
about, unqualified people, people with a strident agenda, who
administer these tests improperly.

************************************************

WHAT?!: They can’t order me to take a PPG?! But maybe inasmuch as I
agreed to it, it is permitted. (As of course a person taking a plea
would do.)

Or… that ignored prohibition could be reason number 11 for why I
should get a new trial— and reason number 21 for how Utah has made
itself wrong… It could also be that Ken doesn’t know what he’s talking
about there
He also told me that tapes featuring teen-aged girls aren’t used any
more, due to interpretive difficulties.

Interpretive difficulties, huh?: just as I had hypothesized. Gee:
might those difficulties have come to light because people like me
argued with them?
Second generation tapes, huh? No teenaged girls, huh? Quack, huh?
Strident agenda, huh?… In everything I look deeply into, I get
vindicated!
Maybe my early temptation to call him Dr. Pangloss* was…inappropriate.
On the other hand, he used the term “Piss poor”. Very colorful. But I
distrust “colorful”, you see.

*Dr. Pangloss was a half-mad character from Voltaire’s famous novel
Candide.

****************************************
6-21-06

It’s funny that Ken Pangborn assails these “unqualified” people so much
— including MSWs— since he only has a Master’s degree himself. But no
matter. He’s a colorful, opinionated sort, too— to be sure. It’s also
instructive that he said something along the lines of” “Anything can
get perverted: look what has been done with the word of God”. I wonder
if most of them like that? Holy rollers, I mean— and fanatics too?

***************************************


(( end copy & paste))

Speaking of "unqualified people, people with a strident agenda, who
administer these tests improperly.", how's your " testing" at over
$2,000 per day per client coming along?

krp

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King Bullshit

"Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> <yawn> Still clinging to your psychotic delusion that YOU invented the
> computer, are ya, Maureen? How is your 8 year stalking of Glenn coming,
> Moe????

DJS#3> How about your psychotic delusion, kenny boy, that you were "the
DJS#3> pioneer in recognizing false claims of child abuse in child custody,
DJS#3> divorce cases, and he developed the case strategies others try to
DJS#3> imitate today?"

What? Are we back to YOUR claims that *YOU* are the REAL pioneer, Danny?
Are we back to your psychosis? I worked the firt case in 1976, Danny? When
was YOUR first case??? 1932? Yes there are imitators including the guy you
have mentioned a couple times, Tong. Who TRIES to copy what I do. Actually
he is copying what I did 20 years ago when we worked on HIS case and
successfully defended him in the CRIMINAL (but not civil) action.

DJS#3> You actually believe that YOU invented the strategy of disproving a
false allegation?

Danny follow me on this, I know it will be HARD for you. I invented "A"
strategy. The most successful one. There are others out them they range from
good to YOUR bullshit disaster strategy, Danny which is tantamount to
handing over one's family to CPS. There are other good people out there, YOU
are NOT among them. YOU are in the category of BAD legal advice. You THINK
you are the hottest thing going. You're just FOS, Sullivan.

Show me somebody doing it or even talking about it PRIOR to February of
1976 Danny. One more of YOUR CLAIMS we shall NEVER see a shred of PROOF on.
And as you BELLOW and BLUSTER, Sullivan, as one of Usenet's LEADING bullshit
artists, try looking at Dean Tong's book (HE didn't actually write it, a
ghost writer did) look where he CREDITS the A-Team. Keep on generating WIND,
Danny. That's ALL you are good for, that and being a CPS shill on the
Internet!


krp

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"whitevamp" <fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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MOE THE IMPALER> Judging by one posting thread, he seems to be in some sort
of panic
MOE THE IMPALER> about former clients of his making complaints about him.

Panic? Hardly! Worried? Not in THIS lifetime sweetheart! Just trying to
get you NOISEMAKERS to make good on your PATHETIC THREATS. It should be
PAINFULLY OBVIOUS by now that you are playing from an empty hand, otherwise
you guys would have already MADE your COMPLAINTS to the FTC. Which "FORMER
CLIENTS" do you see, Maureen? Hey, MAYBE Will Rainey will come forward. Oh
wait. There would have to be a REAL Will Rainey, wouldn't there. A REAL Will
Rainey who was a REAL client. SHIT!!! Want to claim YOU were a client,
Maureen? Your problem is that the FTC and FBI don't act on USENET BULLSHIT!
They act only with REAL complaints not the drivel of a psycho superbitch on
Usenet.

krp

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Aug 8, 2009, 11:59:45 AM8/8/09
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"whitevamp" <fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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MOE THE IMPALER> I never said I " invented the computer" Kennie.

No, just pretending knowledge you do NOT have!


whitevamp

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Aug 8, 2009, 12:04:11 PM8/8/09
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On Aug 8, 10:52 am, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
> King Bullshit"Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote in message

Actually you are not THE founder of "men's rights' Kennie. Seems you
had some fellow mens rights advocates forming groups alongside yours.
This is what Ive found out so far from some basic searching online.

I also saw some of the photos of your daughter known by her porno
name Bragg. Including photos of her sucking big cock and taking it up
her ass. And OC her spreading her legs WIDE as she gets it both
vaginally and anally.

You must be so proud of her.

krp

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Aug 8, 2009, 12:05:30 PM8/8/09
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"whitevamp" <fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> SOme interetsing Kenneth Pangborn related stuff:

> http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1571/is_n23_v12/ai_18375279/

> (( begin SELECTIVE cut and paste))

> Kenneth Pangborn, who heads Men International, hopes to alter the
> terms of that game. Pangborn was a radio news anchor in Salt Lake City
> when he heard from a social worker in Wisconsin that his divorced wife
> was mistreating their three daughters. He went to court and won
> custody of the girls after a battle that left him financially wrecked.
>
> What Pangborn seeks to do is debunk "the fables" told about men, "the
> constant venom spread by feminists and picked up by the media." The
> myths include stories long since proved erroneous but still held as
> true by the media, such as the notion that on Superbowl Sunday abuse
> of wives and girlfriends becomes pandemic because men are prone to
> violence as they engage in masculine ritual.
>
> (( ends cut and paste))

> Sounds a little like Kennie did some legal work Without a law license.

WITH a LAWYER Maureen.
>
> http://www.skeptictank.org/pr/prpt126.htm

> (( begin copy & paste))
>
> Coincidentally, the day after the picket, I received a strange and
> vaguely threatening email from a Kenneth Pangborn, who I understand
> lives in Florida very close to Clearwater. He is apparently some
> nutcase in his own right, I don't know if he's a Scientologist or not,
> but he has a history of harassing people. He is so special, there's a
> website dedicated to him:

Never came from me, but somebody else claiming to be me.


> http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:www.anet.com/~freedom/whoisken.html+Kenneth+Pangborn&hl=en

DEAD LINK.


> He apparently highjacked somebody's email address from AOL, and has
> been reported to the local police department, just to start a paper
> trail in case his messages continue.

BULLSHIT!


whitevamp

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Lotta all caps again Kennie. Why are you so worked up if there's
nothing to worry about.

BTW thanks for calling me superbitch.

How does it feel to see your daughter the porn actress get dick up
her ass and pretend she's enjoying it, all for the pleasure of males
like grag? And when she fucks and sucks huge dicks and slurps up their
cum?

You must be so proud to have such a big titted whore for a daughter.

Dan Sullivan

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I never had a 486?

BTW projection noted, oh "IBM programmer"/

You are SUCH a liar.

Dan Sullivan

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OH LOOK - SCIENCE:


M> I must have googled �PPG� or something related to it, because I found
M> a website sponsored by a group called the A-Team, in Atlanta, which
M> does PS testing and evalua-tion. But inasmuch as they featured a
M> lengthy expostulation on the website, including some claims that
M> didn�t make sense to me, I responded to it, and sent it back. In turn
M> I was responded to by one of their people, and before long I was
M> actually talking to him� a PS evaluators� by telephone. His name was
M> Kenneth Pangborn.

Interesting since we were NEVER in Atlanta.

M> This account of our exchanges could be very lengthy, but instead I�ll
M> only share a couple highlights of it. I�ll report what he said,
M> because you�ll be able to glean much of what I said from what he said
M> to me.

And I am SURE "accurately."
6-20-06

********************************************

From him to me:

TC> If you had a court ordered PPG assessment you had a piss poor lawyer.

Yes, I would have said that. A good lawyer does NOT agree to having
a client tested by an "expert" selected BY THE STATE! One that allows his
client to be seen by a state WHORE ranks as "PISS POOR" and that's being
kind.


TC> The person who gave you that test under that condition� I feel is a
quack.

Yep, that's thw way I feel. I've encountered enough of these people in
the past 30 years to KNOW the game of WHO the state uses.


TC> As part of a plea deal it was bone-headed on your lawyer�s part.

Okay, I was being overly kind to his lawyer. Sending an unsuspecting
client to be tested by a STATE WHORE is somewhere well over the line of
malpractice IN MY OPINION!


TC> You should have come to us first. Yeah we�re damn expensive � but we do
NOT set
TC> you up. I worry when you say that he used �tapes� that you were tested
TC> on at best second generation hardware.

Ah the FACTS omitted here. The STORY fed to me in this scenario included
details NOT reported here. First is that the hardware described was an
ANCIENT "analog" PPG, the kind that monitors responses on a long paper like
an ancient polygraph. Probably a machine made in the 1960's or 1970's. Also
the "tapes" referred to were VIDEO TAPES. Pravelent into the early 1980's.

TC> We�re using 4th generation gear� relying exclusively on the PPG is

dumb. Arousal is only one piece of the puzzle.

There is a MOUNTAIN of case law showing that the PPG as a STAND ALONE
measure is NOT acceptable. It's not even admissible on its own in most
states. The PPG only provides, as I said, a "PIECE" of the puzzle. A very
SMALL (however important) piece it is NOT the whole story.

TC> You have run afoul of exactly what I was talking about, unqualified

people, people with a strident agenda, who administer these tests
improperly.

What's interesting here is that the person is admitteding through the
side door that he was LYING to me. Or lying now?

************************************************

TC> WHAT?!: They can�t order me to take a PPG?! But maybe inasmuch as I
TC> agreed to it, it is permitted. (As of course a person taking a plea
TC> would do.)

No they CANNOT compell you to take the PPG. You can VOLUNTEER to take
THEIR PPG (damn STUPID). It makes as much sense as walking into the Michigan
State Police and taking a Polygraph and THINKING you can EVER pass it.
Dumbass - the game is RIGGED! A lawyer ADVISING his client to submit to
RIGGED testing in my OPINION is guilty of malpractice. At best bone headed
stupidity.

TC> Or� that ignored prohibition could be reason number 11 for why I
TC> should get a new trial� and reason number 21 for how Utah has made
TC> itself wrong� It could also be that Ken doesn�t know what he�s talking
TC> about there

Nope - when you AGREE you throw away your rights! When you are ADVISED
to piss them away, then that's an issue between you and your DUMB lawyer.

TC> He also told me that tapes featuring teen-aged girls aren�t used any
TC> more, due to interpretive difficulties.

As a FACT, they aren't by anyone doing the testing properly.

TC> Interpretive difficulties, huh?: just as I had hypothesized. Gee:
TC> might those difficulties have come to light because people like me
TC> argued with them?

No the professional condemnation for using TEENS came about within the
profession because of the FACT that most men react to teen age girls. You
guys have probably never heard of the TANNER scale. A scale on sexual
development, a young child being a Tanner 1, and a fully developed female
being a Tenner 5. Once the girl has reached Tanner 4 over 95% of the men
tested WILL react. The PPG is a device that attached to the malke genitals.
The problelm for men is that the Penis has NO cognitive funtion. It only
knows that the subject has developed to a sufficient state of sexual
development to be physicaly ready for sex. (Not psychologicaly.) So in LAB
testing, over 95% of the ment tested DO respond to developed teen age girls.
Which of course does NOT mean that the person would act on the arousal if he
knows the girl is under age. Most of us know 16 will get you twenty. Like I
said, the PPG is only a VERY SMALL piece of the puzzle.

TC> Second generation tapes, huh? No teenaged girls, huh? Quack, huh?
TC> Strident agenda, huh?� In everything I look deeply into, I get
vindicated!

I can't fathom thar reasoning at all.

****************************************
Somebody is EXTREMELY ANGRY


6-21-06

TC> It�s funny that Ken Pangborn assails these �unqualified� people so much
TC> � including MSWs� since he only has a Master�s degree himself.

Distinguish between PSYCHOLOGY and SOCIAL WORK, Please.

TC> But nomatter. He�s a colorful, opinionated sort, too� to be sure. It�s
also
TC> instructive that he said something along the lines of� �Anything can
TC> get perverted: look what has been done with the word of God�. I wonder
TC> if most of them like that? Holy rollers, I mean� and fanatics too?

Anything CAN be perverted, and usually is, somewhere. Is there a dispute
on that point?

Tell me, Ms. McAllister, WHAT exactly do you think this guy's rabid
ranting PROVES? He didn't like what I told him. Either he DID take a plea
after FAILING a PPG, or he was lying to me. Which do YOU think is the case?
Failing a PPG proves NOTHING to me by itself. It is only ONE small tool.
Important as it may be, it is NOT the world, Maureen. The simple FACT is
that IF you read the Literature that covers the PPG (Adams, Abel, MacAnulty,
O'Donahue, Plaud, Wright, Lohr, Anon, Gullick, Laws et al) the universal
conclusion is that using TEENS confounds the test results which is WHY today
nobody CREDIBLE uses them.

You see, Maureen - YOU are too STUPID to know that in science you try to
RULE OUT false positives and false negatives. So testing becomes
STANDARDIZED. The using of stimuli featuring teens are NOT used.Not even to
test people WITH a preference for teens. The data is UNRELIABLE. That
doesn't matter to somebody like YOU. You just function on your cognitive
dissonance.


krp

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MOE> Actually you are not THE founder of "men's rights' Kennie. Seems you
MOE> had some fellow mens rights advocates forming groups alongside yours.

Maureen - first of all *I* never said I was the founder of "men's
rights." That happened LONG before I was born by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle in
England sometime near the and of the 19th century. Also U.S. Divorce Reform,
and America's Socity for Divorced men preceeded me. I also didn't form Men
International, I was merely its second ELECTED President. Nice TRY at
introducing some of your SPIN into the air, Maureen. As USUAL, it's more of
your psycho BULLHIT.


MOE> This is what Ive found out so far from some basic searching online. I

also saw some of the photos of your daughter known by her porno

MOE> name. Including photos of her sucking big cock

I can SEE you as the belle of high society cocktail parties in New York
and London, Maureen. Such CLASS. You must be the acknowledged QUEEN of the
trailer park set there in Arkansas. Did you learn all your manners in
"Finishing school" in Switzerland?


krp

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> On Aug 8, 7:10 am, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> <yawn> Still clinging to your psychotic delusion that YOU invented
>> the
>> computer, are ya, Maureen? How is your 8 year stalking of Glenn coming,
>> Moe????
>
> How about your psychotic delusion, kenny boy, that you were "the
> pioneer in recognizing false claims of child abuse in child custody,
> divorce cases, and he developed the case strategies others try to
> imitate today?"

No delusion. FACT! Accepted FACT within the men's movement,. Danny. NO,
Danny, - YOU did NOT invent it.

krp

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> How about your psychotic delusion, kenny boy, that you were "the
> pioneer in recognizing false claims of child abuse in child custody,
> divorce cases, and he developed the case strategies others try to
> imitate today?"

No delusion, Danny, a FACT. PROVE OTHERWISE! It is accepted FACT in the
men's movement. Let's see your PROOF that YOU are the one who invented it.

krp

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MOE> How does it feel to see your daughter the porn actress get dick up her
ass

And you WONDER why so many people feel that Arkansas is an overly LINE
BRED swamp?


Dan Sullivan

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"krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:a1994281-f7ea-47fc...@l34g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
>
>> How about your psychotic delusion, kenny boy, that you were "the
>> pioneer in recognizing false claims of child abuse in child custody,
>> divorce cases, and he developed the case strategies others try to
>> imitate today?"
>
> No delusion, Danny, a FACT. PROVE OTHERWISE! It is accepted FACT in the
> men's movement.

Show me where in any literature from the men's movement, kenny boy, that
it's an accepted fact that you were the pioneer in recognizing false claims
of child abuse in child custody, divorce cases and you developed the case
strategies others try to imitate today.

whitevamp

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Your porn actress daughter shows how you raised her Kennie. You
yourself revealed her as your daughter. And she has a number of photos
and vids online showing in detail her acts.

Your daughter Kennie. Hardly "high class".

Your daughter the porno whore.

whitevamp

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Was your daughter raised in Arkansas Kennie?

Considering the names you've called me, what I am doing regarding the
female you ADMIT is your daughter is , well, tit for tat.

Your crude sexual remarks, are they any better Kennie?

How'd you like what you do to others being done on you Kennie?

Here's the facts Kennie. Your daughter , under an assumed name, shows
herself sucking , screwing and gulping men and their genitals. Now why
did she choose that path? Is that how you raised her?

You talking about good taste and high society like a pig in the sty
deriding a chipmunk. Your own words and bearing online show you to be
a hypocrite.

But hey, if you're proud of having a daughter that shows " intimacy"
with strangers on film for money, go ahead and admit it. I wouldn't be
surprised that you have a personal collection of her " best' hidden
where only you can " enjoy".

whitevamp

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> >http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:www.anet.com/~freedom/whoisken.h...

>
> DEAD LINK.
>
> > He apparently highjacked somebody's email address from AOL, and has
> > been reported to the local police department, just to start a paper
> > trail in case his messages continue.
>
>     BULLSHIT!

I'm only reporting what others have said about you Kennie. If you
disagree, take it up with them.

Be my guest to correct them, if you can.

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Fond memories Kennie? Or do you have a personal video or two?

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>>> How about your psychotic delusion, kenny boy, that you were "the
>>> pioneer in recognizing false claims of child abuse in child custody,
>>> divorce cases, and he developed the case strategies others try to
>>> imitate today?"
>>
>> No delusion, Danny, a FACT. PROVE OTHERWISE! It is accepted FACT in
>> the men's movement.

> Show me where in any literature from the men's movement, kenny boy, that
> it's an accepted fact that you were the pioneer in recognizing false
> claims of child abuse in child custody, divorce cases and you developed
> the case strategies others try to imitate today.


Don't READ much do YA, Danny? Start with reading your HERO Tong's book.
"Don't blame ME Daddy" and see if he gives the GREAT GREAT GREAT Dan
Sullivan credit for winning his criminal case, OR the A-team. The book is
almost 20 years old now, Danny/ WHERE does it credit YOU?????????????? HUH,
Danny?? WHERE does it say THE GREAT GENIUS DAN SULLIVAN SAVED ME?

Now, asswipe, I could point you to issues of the "Legal Beagle" going
back to 1977, or the Liberator in the early 80's OR, dipshit, you MIGHT
find several things on the men's movement history on Dick Doyle's website.
Show me WHERE - ANYONE in the men's movement credits YOU or David Moore???
You get credit for MISDIRECTING people and fukking up their cases.

krp

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> WITH a LAWYER Maureen.

> >http://www.skeptictank.org/pr/prpt126.htm

no SMART ASSED ANSWER, MAUREEN?

> > He apparently highjacked somebody's email address from AOL, and has
> > been reported to the local police department, just to start a paper
> > trail in case his messages continue.
>
> BULLSHIT!

MOE> I'm only reporting what others have said about you Kennie. If you
MOE> disagree, take it up with them.

` WHY? The people aren't even identified. Take it up with WHO?????

krp

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MOE> Your porn actress daughter


PROVE IT!!

whitevamp

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Do you need any Kennie?

Gee, wonder why you are so mad now? Not a very firm grasp of your
emotions Kennie.

But then seems you never were emotionally stable.

>
> > > He apparently highjacked somebody's email address from AOL, and has
> > > been reported to the local police department, just to start a paper
> > > trail in case his messages continue.
>
> > BULLSHIT!
>
> MOE>  I'm only reporting what others have said about you Kennie. If you
> MOE> disagree, take it up with them.
>
> `    WHY? The people aren't even identified. Take it up with WHO?????

The correct tense is " Whom" Kennie.

Also they are identified when I showed the URLs before I did a C&P.

As to the why, I'm simply showing what some are saying about you. If
you wish to correct them about any misconceptions they have about you,
feel free to respond to them.

Now why would you care what someone says about you online?

whitevamp

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>
> news:080c2edb-e2db-400a...@33g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
>
> MOE>  Your porn actress daughter
>
>     PROVE IT!!

Already proven by others than me Kennie.

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http://www.legalspring.com/articles/misc-legal/20060923/489672_Kenneth-R--Pangborn.html

(( begin copy & paste))

Kenneth R. Pangborn, the fraud who is written about on a number of
web sites, including http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com, purchased a
college "degree" (fake)
from a diploma mill and using those fake credentials to extort money
from innocent people.
KENNETH R. PANGBORN of the A-Team or KRP CONSULTING has harmed so
many people, pissed off so many dads, burned so many bridges that it
is
only a matter of time before this
recent discovery gets its just reward. He is already bankrupt, the
cause of failed marriage after failed marriage, and even his daughter
(so HE claims, although she denies that he is her father) has written
about how he abused her on her blog. http://www.xanga.com/DealMeIn
(She has made sure that he doesn't have access to her telephone number
or address. )
The link directly below is to Kennth R. Pangborn's curriculum vitae
that he posted on a Texas Lawyers organization group because he hoped
some fool would hire him as an expert witness. Note that he list
Shaftesbury University in London as the school that granted both his
undergraduate and graduate "degrees". This school is a sham. The
students do not attend classes. No lessons are sent out through the
mail. To get a degree, you pay a fee and they mail it to you.
http://www.tcdla.com/secure/experts/bios/k_pangborn.pdf#search=%22ken...
Look up Shaftesbury University in Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaftesbury_University
See where Kenny's so called "degrees" came from? Shaftesbury
University.
Shaftesbury University is part of the "University Degree Program
(UDP), an unaccredited consortium of diploma mills run by Jason and
Caroline Abraham (alias: Yaakov and Chaya Rochel). In 2004, The
Houston
Chronicle noted UDP is the "granddaddy" of diploma mill operations and
started operating in the mid-1990s.[1]] In fact, "after an
investigation by the Federal Trade Commission, its owners turned over
$100,000 in profits and promised to stay out of the degree-selling
business." [2] However, "the e-mailing hasn't stopped. The call
centers
haven't closed. And the money hasn't stopped flowing. If anything, the
business has grown."
The Chronicle revealed one of the two owners is "a mother of four who
has a Ph.D. in mathematics and lives in Brooklyn, NY." The paper
explained day-to-day operations, which "sold more than 30,000 degrees
and may have earned $50-million or perhaps in excess of $100-million"
with its "call centers in Israel and Romania."[3]"
Under that information is a list of schools that falls into this
category. Scroll down to Shaftesbury and clink the link that is
beside the name of the school and that will take you to the following
Pittsburgh Tribune review article.
http://pittsburghlive.com/x/dailycourier/news/connellsville/s_328132....
[Note the line in the article that says, "he obtained his degree from
Shaftesbury University, in the United Kingdom, in 1986. However, the
state's investigation revealed that, not only did Shal's university
diploma contain two misspellings, but the institution is not
recognized, or accredited, in the United Kingdom or the U.S.
And while the school claims to be accredited by the European Committee
for Home and Online Education, that institution also is not recognized
in the United Kingdom or the U.S. "]
Children's counselor charged with fraud
Subscribe
By Marsha Forys
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Tuesday, April 26, 2005
A Connellsville man is accused of working as a children's mental
health
counselor to state medical assistance recipients for almost three
years
without having the proper qualifications.
Leon Edward Shal Jr., 60, of 420 S. Eighth St., faces charges of
complicity, welfare fraud, theft by deception and insurance fraud,
filed by the state Attorney General's Office after a yearlong
investigation.
Shal was a member of the therapeutic support staff at Connellsville
Psychological and Counseling Services, 41 S. Pittsburgh St., from
April
2000 to February 2003, according to court documents.
During that time, he allegedly counseled numerous young patients --
all
of whom were clients of the state Department of Public Welfare,
Medical
Assistance Program, and he billed the state for his services through
Richard W. Pritts, his employer, and Value Behavioral Health of
Pennsylvania Inc., a health maintenance organization contracted by
Fayette County.
The type of services allegedly offered by Shal required that the
provider have an education that includes, at minimum, a bachelor's
degree. Shal allegedly told his employer he obtained his degree from
Shaftesbury University, in the United Kingdom, in 1986.
However, the state's investigation revealed that, not only did Shal's
university diploma contain two misspellings, but the institution is
not
recognized, or accredited, in the United Kingdom or the U.S.
And while the school claims to be accredited by the European Committee
for Home and Online Education, that institution also is not recognized
in the United Kingdom or the U.S.
The state further claims that Shal, when counseling medical assistance
patients, was required by state law to do so one-on-one, yet billing
information obtained by investigators showed that he had on numerous
occasions billed the state for treating two or more patients at the
same time, according to court documents.
The state's investigation allegedly found that Value Behavioral Health
had paid Connellsville Counseling and Psychological Services almost
$150,000 for therapy services allegedly rendered by Shal during the
three years he worked at the clinic.
Shal was arraigned before Magisterial District Judge Ronald Haggerty
Sr., of Connellsville, and remains free on $20,000 unsecured bond.

(( end copy & paste))

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On Aug 8, 3:00 pm, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "whitevamp" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:080c2edb-e2db-400a...@33g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
>
> MOE> Your porn actress daughter
>
> PROVE IT!!

MOE THE IMPALER> Already proven by others than me Kennie.


Who? Your pal MOORE????? Now THERE is a credible source. (Extreme
SARCASM). Mister ANONYMOUS? Credible? What are ya ON, Maureen?

whitevamp

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On Aug 8, 5:39 pm, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "whitevamp" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Aug 8, 3:00 pm, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
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> > "whitevamp" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > MOE> Your porn actress daughter
>
> > PROVE IT!!
>
> MOE THE IMPALER>  Already proven by others than me Kennie.
>
>     Who? Your pal MOORE?????  Now THERE is a credible source. (Extreme
> SARCASM). Mister ANONYMOUS? Credible? What are ya ON, Maureen?

I'm on a computer Kennie.

The simple fact is you yourself outed your daughter as the big
boobed porn actress and some weeks ago when you mad excuses for her "
fall" you never said she WASN'T a porn actress. You never denied she
was in the " adult entertainment" industry. In fact , you blamed her
path on your ex-wife.

AAMOF the " discussion" I had with you concerning your supposed
Olympic horse rider contender daughter was one where you did NOT deny
your daughter was a porn actress.

And both Moore ans Sullivan are far more credible than you Kennie.

Greegor

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whitevamp

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On Aug 8, 7:25 pm, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.judicial.state.ia.us/Supreme_Court/Recent_Opinions/2005050...

How about your record greg?

Oh wait, here it is:

Consider the following TRUTH about Gregory Scott Hanson, inmate
1104135, convicted wife beater (TWO convictions), proved child
molester (by
his own standards of proof), proved child abuser (by anyone's
standards),
admitted user and abuser of illegal drugs and white supremacist:


Title: ST VS GREGORY HANSON
(DOB 05/22/1959)
CRIMINAL COMPLAINT 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 1 OWI 1ST
OTHER CITATION 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 2 SPEED
Disposition Status
GUILTY PLEA/DEFAULT

Inmate 1104135, Gregory Scott Hanson, sexual child predator, wife and
child
abuser, admitted user and abuser of illegal drugs and white
supremacist has
REFUSED to state what substance he ingested to cause him to get an
OWI. He
only states it was not alcohol.

"That's the chick, but not the pic, zipperhead!"
Gregory Scott Hanson, inmate 1104135, sexual child predator, wife
and
child abuser, admitted user and abuser of illegal drugs, and white
supremacist, proving his racial HATE towards Asians.
MID:<c6bac3f6-7a0e-4bf8-8ddd-
d77bccfc6...@p49g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.legal/msg/395db830731df54a
http://www.rsdb.org/search?q=zipperhead


A SMALL sample of the proof that inmate 1104135, Gregory Scott
Hanson,
sexual child predator, wife and child abuser, admitted user and abuser
of
illegal drugs and white supremacist, doesn't think he's bound by
criminal or
civil law:

Case ID Title Name DOB Role
06571 AGCR015216 STATE OF IOWA VS GREG SCOTT HANSON 05/22/1959
DEFENDANT

06571 SCSC123709 FARM BUREAU MUTUAL INS CO VS GREGORY SCOTT HANSON
GREGORY
05/22/1959 DEFENDANT

06571 SCSC139229 EAGLE PROP MGT VS GREGORY HANSON & LISA WATKINS
GREGORY
05/22/1959 DEFENDANT

06571 SCSC139230 EAGLE PROP MGT VS GREGORY HANSON & LISA WATKINS
GREGORY
05/22/1959 DEFENDANT

06571 SCSC141447 EAGLE PROPERTY MNGT VS LISA WATKINS ET AL HANSON
05/22/1959 DEFENDANT

06571 SCSC141448 EAGLE PROPERTY MNGT VS LISA WATKINS ET AL HANSON
05/22/1959 DEFENDANT

06571 SMSM004543 STATE OF IOWA VS HANSON, GREGORY SCOTT HANSON
05/22/1959
DEFENDANT

Greg Hanson, inmate 1104135, Gregory Scott Hanson, sexual child
predator,
wife and child abuser, admitted user and abuser of illegal drugs and
and
white supremacist, was convicted of beating his wife in the above
case.

06571 SMSM008629 STATE OF IOWA VS HANSON, GREGORY S HANSON
05/22/1959
DEFENDANT

Greg Hanson, inmate 1104135, Gregory Scott Hanson, sexual child
predator,
wife and child abuser, admitted user and abuser of illegal drugs and
white
supremacist, was convicted of beating his wife in the above case.

06571 STCR429489 STATE OF IOWA vs HANSON, GREGORY SCOTT HANSON
05/22/1959
DEFENDANT

06571 STCR441449 STATE OF IOWA vs HANSON, GREGORY SCOTT HANSON
05/22/1959
DEFENDANT

06571CRSTCR146191 CITY OF CEDAR RAPIDS vs HANSON, GREGORY SCOTT
HANSON
05/22/1959 DEFENDANT

06571CRSTCR214087 CITY OF CEDAR RAPIDS vs HANSON, GREGORY SCOTT
HANSON
05/22/1959 DEFENDANT

06571MASTWG261061 CITY OF MARION vs HANSON, GREGORY SCOTT HANSON
05/22/1959
DEFENDANT


A portion of the rant Gregory Scott Hanson, inmate 1104135, sexual
child
predator, wife and child abuser, admitted user and abuser of illegal
drugs
and white supremacist, authored for Lisa about how "unfair" it was for
DHS
to remove Lisa's pre-pubescent daughter from Greg's continued
emotional,
physical and sexual abuse:

IN THE IOWA DISTRICT COURT OF LINN COUNTY
JUVENILE DIVISION
IN THE INTEREST OF NO. JVJV-12345
CHILD A. LASTNAME
DOB: 00-00-99 MOTION TO CLARIFY
MINOR CHILD MOTION FOR RELIEF FROM
INAPPROPRIATE SERVICES

COMES NOW, Suzy Q. Mother, Pro Se, seeking relief from inappropriate
and
inquisitive services.

The Iowa Department of Human Services (DHS) has IMPOSED a Service Plan
onto
us rather than allowing us ACTIVE participation in the FORMATION of
the
Service Plan. We have complained about this for MOST of the last 11
months,
and have been laughed off by Judas of DHS, Deb of LSS and ignored by
Juvenile Court. Greg showed the quote from the US DHHS Caseworker
handbook
to Deb, outside of our house, using the trunk of the car as a work
surface.
We have seen no sign that she passed this information to Judas. Deb
characterized this in writing as if it was aberrant behavior and
avoidance
of personal issues. Judas has been informed of this by way of SEVERAL
documents, yet shown no sign of truly understanding their
significance. The
Iowa DHS computer blank FORM was apparently recently modified to make
a
clear statement about this point, with boxed in text for emphasis, so
it
must be important to SOMEBODY at DHS, perhaps due to a consent decree.
On
January 99th, in court, I (Suzy Q. Mother) was asked by the judge what
MORE
services would help, but got the "stone wall" treatment regarding
removal of
inappropriate services. It clearly seemed to be a "closed issue" with
the
Judge. Something is wrong with that. This flies in the face of the
concept
of "Active Participation in the Formation of Service Plan". Federal
Case law
says "opportunity to object after formation is NOT a substitute for
ACTIVE
participation in the FORMATION of the Service Plan". This is a
Federal
regulation and it's in the Iowa caseworker manual too. Services DHS
is
attempting to IMPOSE upon our family turned out upon further
investigation
to be contaminated beyond belief with putrid INPUT. The words
"fishing
expedition" come to mind.

"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll
cripple you.
I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
but
you will still be a cripple."
--Greg Hanson, in a verbal threat to his girlfriend

"I am erudite [sic] but not Buckelyesque"
Gregory Scott Hanson, inmate 1104135, sexual child predator, wife
and
child abuser, admitted user and abuser of illegal drugs
Jan 22, 2008

"My family's case is for Neglect, but we are treated in virtually
every
regard as child abusers, marked on the Child Abuse registry, for
example."
-- Gregory Scott Hanson, inmate 1104135, sexual child predator,
wife and
child abuser, admitted user and abuser of illegal drugs.
Message-ID: <35120b16.0401111639.6825f...@posting.google.com>

Gregory Scott Hanson, inmate 1104135, sexual child predator, wife and
child
abuser, admitted user and abuser of illegal drugs, has a scat fetish
MID
<95d4e047-09f4-4722-a567-57980c5f4...@n10g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>

" ... But there ought to be conferences and studies on how to curb
minority
overpopulation, repatriate minorities abroad, imprison more
minorities,
increase use of the death penalty and divest minorities of the power
they
have usurped over us in recent years. That would address the most
pressing
problems of our day."
April 2000, Gregory Hanson
http://www.nationalist.org/ATW/2000/040101.html#Hanson

Kent Wills

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"Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.judicial.state.ia.us/Supreme_Court/Recent_Opinions/20050506/04-0202.asp?Printable=true

Outside of your lastest PROOF that your admited use and abuse of
illegal drugs has you messed up, Moe's name appears nowhere in the link
you've posted.
Get into rehab Greg, and WORK the program.

Kent Wills

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"whitevamp" <fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 8, 7:25 pm, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> http://www.judicial.state.ia.us/Supreme_Court/Recent_Opinions/2005050...
>
>How about your record greg?
>

I find it interesting that Greg felt the need to post something
dirrected at you that had and has nothing to do with you.
It's more proof, if any were needed, that Greg's asmited use and abuse
of illegal drugs has seriously messed up his head.

> Oh wait, here it is:
>
> Consider the following TRUTH about Gregory Scott Hanson, inmate
>1104135, convicted wife beater (TWO convictions), proved child
>molester (by
>his own standards of proof), proved child abuser (by anyone's
>standards),
>admitted user and abuser of illegal drugs and white supremacist:
>

[...]

BURN!

whitevamp

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On Aug 9, 12:37 am, "Kent Wills" <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "whitevamp" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>
> news:4deb369b-adfe-481e...@v2g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 8, 7:25 pm, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>http://www.judicial.state.ia.us/Supreme_Court/Recent_Opinions/2005050...
>
> >How about your record greg?
>
>      I find it interesting that Greg felt the need to post something
> dirrected at you that had and has nothing to do with you.
>      It's more proof, if any were needed, that Greg's asmited use and abuse
> of illegal drugs has seriously messed up his head.

Considering I've never been to Iowa and that Greg occasionally lets
slip he thinks I am you in " drag" or some such nonsense, I;d say your
assessment of his mental state sounds accurate.

Moe
Eternal FOREVER KNIGHT fan
" A vampire cop? REALLY?"
"http://home.earthlink.net/~19ranger57/blies.htm

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"Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>` WHY? The people aren't even identified. Take it up with WHO?????

> The first bit came from the hand of Stephen Goode.
> The person who wrote the bit about your call the day after the
> picket is Barbara Warr.

Well that only addresses their names, not their contact info. And it
certainly doesn't discuss Mr. Goode's misrepresentations to me. Setting up
an entirely fictional scenario to elicit my comments to use the way his
article does. The comments I made to him were are are entirely factual. What
he described to me ( and his article admits) was that the only "TEST" he was
given was the ppg. (Penile Plethysmograph) and he went on to describe the
machine as providing a PAPER record. Which means it was an ANALOG machine.
The problems I mentioned are ones well known to anyone with a working
familiarity with the science. Which is why into the 1980's court after court
ruled such testing "INADMISSIBLE." They did because of reliability issues.
Lack of standardization, serious problems with use of Stimuli that was KNOWN
to confound results. Such as pornographic videos, and scenarios featuring
Tanner 5 teens. ALL of which he reported to me were in his alleged testing,
which he seems to admit he MADE UP to talk to me. We don't know his REAL
agenda. My point to him is WELL GROUNDED in law. As a stand alone test
repeatedly the PPG has been found inadmissible even into the 1990's. He says
he told me it was the ONLY test he was given. While I don't recall speaking
to him specifically, most of what he represents me to have said, is what I
would most likely have told anyone, that the PPG alone is not reliable and
is inadmissible. Since he suggest that he was in Georgia, I can tell you
that the most recent decision in Georgia STILL does not accept it even with
all the improvements made in the past 10 years. It's my personal OPINION
that a lawyer sending his client to have a PPG test done by a STATE expert
is well over the line of malpractice. That is doubly true if the lawyer
failed to inform the client that the test was INADMISSIBLE in court as a
stand alone test. Such boneheaded advice is ONE of the reasons the A-Team is
necessary.

Today pornographic videos are NOT used as part of the testing. Nude
depictions of children are NOT used. Teens are NOT used. None are accepted
in the profession or in the professional organizations where the issues are
evaluated. Because they make the results UNRELIABLE.

So to Ms. Warr - I have NO idea WHO she is, who she was picketing, or
why. I also don't know WHO sent her e-mails, but it was NOT me.


krp

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MOE> The simple fact is you yourself outed your daughter as the big
MOE> boobed porn actress and some weeks ago when you mad excuses for her "

I did? Where?

krp

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"Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> He's given out legal advice on-line. I recall one time when a man
> was worried that his wife might not return custody of their children
> to him.

> Most of us pointed out that until the ex-wife actually breaks the
> law, there isn't a great deal that can be done. Pangborn started
> offering all sorts of legal advice.

> Of course, one can be their own attorney without breaking the law.
> As such, he probably was safe in the above example.

And what WAS my "legal advice" Kent? You seem to OMIT all sorts of FACTS
about the case. Care to place them *IN* context Kent? I thought not. You do
SO love misrepresentation as your main weapon. As to a spouse absconding
with children, you do NOT have to wait till they are gone. If a parent has a
SOLID reason to suspect a parental abduction - there ARE a number of things
their lawyer can do to minimize the risk. Such as having a hearing in which
passports are taken by the court, making sure a surety bond is in place in
the event the children are not returned. Given the FACTS of a case if the
parent has solid PROOF of intent to abscond with the children, visitation
terms can be changed. YOUR legal advice that he MUST WAIT until AFTER she
takes the children is WRONG. But the things he CAN do require a lawyer who
KNOWS that kind of case. There aren't a lot of them who can make a
compelling case to the judges. If your intent is to show me wrong, Kent,
better pick another subject.

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