Follow-up 2:
On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 6:29:45 PM UTC-6, observer wrote:
.> Follow-up:
.>
.> On CNN with Wolf Blitzer tonight, former
.> NATO Commander Wesley Clark called on
.> the U.S. to go to the U.N. and demand that
.> Russia stop the attack on Ukraine.
.>
.> Following that, representative John Kin-
.> zinger called on the U.S. to declare Ukraine
.> a no fly zone, NATO air forces preventing
.> Russian jets from flying over Ukraine. John's
.> position is that NATO superiority will be able
.> to prevent Russian air attacks, "giving Ukraine
.> a fighting chance".
.>
https://twitter.com/AdamKinzinger
.>
.> Various news articles have stated this would
.> amount to a war between NATO & Russia. It
.> appears that Ukrainians are being sacrificed
.> out of fear of _?_ (see previous post), & NATO
.> acting as if Ukraine can be ignored/sacrificed
.> & thousands of Ukrainians dying is a moral ...
.>
.> ... position is not, in my opinion, defensible.
.> Appeasement is morally bankrupt, and in my
.> opinion, appeasement is the stance the U.S.
.> and NATO have adopted, sanctions & military
.> supplies small solace as Ukraine is being des-
.> troyed.
.>
.> Zelensky, who remains in Kyiv at great risk,
.> having stated he is the primary target & his
.> family is the secondary target, he states that
.> the war will be decided in Kyiv tonight. Russia
.> has threatened killing family member of Ukrain-
.> ian soldiers.
Ex-President of Ukraine (Petro Poroshenko, Pres-
ident of Ukraine 2014 to 2019), he's in Kyiv with
a weapon fighting the Russian invasion:
Ukraine crisis: 'Putin will meet hell' says
former president Petro Poroshenko
https://youtu.be/6SOVTHjHjbw
Petro Poroshenko
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petro_Poroshenko
Ukrainian ambassador asks Nato
for a ‘no fly zone’ over country
amid Russian invasion
https://youtu.be/pdyfqamYtzY
Americans at Times Square &
Protesters Around the World
rally in support of Ukraine &
against the Russian invasion
https://youtu.be/aZU1XfB3bvk
Ukraine's Tiananmen moment: Local man
(somewhere in Ukraine) climbs on top of
Russian tank before kneeling on the ground
https://youtu.be/yJEKlaIp92k
Russians Join the World in
Anti-War Protests Against
Russian Invasion of Ukraine
https://youtu.be/lYBUimAWuPc
Ukraine Children
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Ukraine+Children
.>
.> In my opinion, the U.S. and NATO *must* move
.> aggressively to stop Russia from destroying
.> Ukraine, & idiotic rules that prevent NATO from
.> protecting Ukraine *must* be ended. The very
.> least the U.S. & NATO can do, a no fly zone,
.> should be implemented immediately, in my
.> opinion.
.>
.> The path to freedom has no room for cowards.
.>
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> On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 11:39:14 AM UTC-6, observer wrote:
/> .> In an article by poster
dls...@gmail.com
/> .>
/> .> Feb 24, 2022, 3:27:45 PM (18 hours ago)
/> .>
/> .> dls wrote The Word for today is " sanctions"
/> .>
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.sports.football.pro.dallas-cowboys/c/puIDLw-SUIc/m/Mi2eXAwWCAAJ
/> .>
~> /> >Biden's weak response to the Anti Christ Putin?
/> .>
/> .> Religion, Vladimir Putin has both atheist and
/> .> Russian Orthodox Christianity backgrounds,
/> .> and a little-mentioned fact is that everyone
/> .> can believe or disbelieve in every and any sup-
/> .> posed 'supernatural' being, it's simply a matter
/> .> of timing & what question is asked.
/> .>
/> .> For example, if one asks the question "Do you
/> .> believe in Zeus?" or "Do you believe in Allah?"
/> .> "Do you believe in Christ?" or "Do you believe
/> .> in Anti Christ(s)?" or "Do you believe in God?"
/> .> or "Do you believe in Buddah" or "Do you be-
/> .> lieve in Mithras?", or "Do you believe in ...
/> .>
/> .> ... Orthodox Christianity?" or "Do you believe
/> .> in Catholicism?" or "Do you believe your reli-
/> .> gion is true?", or "Do you believe in Evangeli-
/> .> cal Christianity?", you shouldn't be surprised
/> .> to find that the answers to those questions
/> .> reveals the nature of the myths & social & ...
/> .>
/> .> ... religious influences each individual has
/> .> been influenced by, & the societies each
/> .> individual lives in.
/> .>
/> .> If you search for info on Putin you'll find both
/> .> support for Russian Orthodox Christianity &
/> .> opposition to Islam. The "Anti Christ" idea is
/> .> part of the Christian Bible, and is a rather com-
/> .> plex concept with many different views.
/> .>
~> /> >What are "Sanctions"?
/> .>
/> .> Sanctions
/> .>
https://www.google.com/search?q=sanctions
/> .>
~> /> >How effective are they?
/> .>
/> .> Over time, they may adversely impact Russia
/> .> in a manner that may lead to Russia altering
/> .> its invasion of Ukraine, but difficult to know
/> .> how long and what impact that may be.
/> .>
~> /> >Who is affected most when sanctions are imposed?
/> .>
/> .> Everyone, gas prices are rising worldwide, &
/> .> I've seen estimates that 40% of European
/> .> energy comes from Russia & 7% of U.S.
/> .> energy comes from Russia. As for the re-
/> .> sponsibility, Putin resides at the heart of
/> .> all that is happening in Ukraine.
/> .>
/> .> As for the first person mentioned in your
/> .> post, President Biden, news media has gen-
/> .> erally conceded that the U.S. should stay
/> .> out of Ukraine insofar as its aircraft & its
/> .> navy & its army, but supplying military sup-
/> .> plies is generally perceived as acceptable.
/> .>
/> .> Why Ukraine is being sacrificed by the U.S.
/> .> & NATO & why NATO has refused to accept
/> .> Ukraine as a part of NATO? I don't know, for
/> .> that I'd have to study what NATO nations
/> .> have said & why Biden & political parties
/> .> are determined to stay out of Ukraine.
/> .>
/> .> Fear of World War 3? Choosing to sacrifice
/> .> Ukraine to try to avoid World War 3? Hope
/> .> that Ukrainians will be able to restore their
/> .> democracy with an insurgency after Russia
/> .> takes over most of Ukraine? I really don't
/> .> grasp why so little is being done by the ...
/> .>
/> .> ... West or why the rules of NATO seem
/> .> to exclude all of Europe that's not part of
/> .> NATO or why Ukraine has been kept out
/> .> of NATO or why Putin is risking the start
/> .> of what may end up being the end of
/> .> human civilization. I just don't get it.
/> .>
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