Mystery still DUCKING my PU challenge
Ray Gordon
Mystery even says no one challenges him; he's wrong. He just pretends this
one doesn't exist.
Mystery also will talk forever when there are censors overseeing the board,
but he can't seem to find a free-speech group.
My challenge to him stands, and apparently, so does his DUCKING of it.
How beta.
HC
Ray Gordon wrote:
> On-camera in a strip club, supposedly his area of expertise.
>
> Mystery even says no one challenges him; he's wrong.
I think he's right on. You = no one
> He just pretends this
> one doesn't exist.
>
He pretends YOU don't exist. Hell, I have to give him three points for
that . . . he's smarter than me!
> Mystery also will talk forever when there are censors overseeing the board,
> but he can't seem to find a free-speech group.
>
> My challenge to him stands, and apparently, so does his DUCKING of it.
>
> How beta.
How psycho.
pointer
he went after "dumb girls" .... dr. phil brought in 3 of his gals to
confront him and to impart some of his *home-spun* wisdom. Haven't
seen a *GAME OVER* on this from you ... you're slacking, gordo. ;)
John Michaels
your trolling needs. Yep, you ducked all challenges.
Lori Koonce
Ray
It's far from BETA to pick your challenges wisely. Mystery's winning
your challenge won't do a thing for his image.
And you should be thankful that he's kind enough not to embarass you.
He, as the rest of us, realizes you really don't need any help in that
arena.
Love and Cheeses
Lori
HeeroYuy
"Ray Gordon" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote in message
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Gordon has yet to understand that one cannot accept a challenge from a
newsgroup that he does not read. Oh, I forgot! It is BECAUSE Mystery doesn't
read this board that Gordon makes these challenges. It saves Gordon the
trouble of back-pedalling if the challenge is accepted.
Thrasher Remailer
The fact that a successful and accomplished person, such as Mystery,
chooses not to respond to an unsuccessful mentally ill newsloon is hardly
an indication that the successful and accomplished person is
"ducking the challenge". The fact that a newsloon would only consider
this one possible reason for lack of a response from Mystery from the numerous
other and more compelling ones is indicative of his mental illness.
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now also has a website and discussion forums in which this individual is prevented
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ray claims he can talk a woman out of her clothes but somehow he can't
manage to talk a woman into posing in a photo with him.
ray will whine forever on usenet where he is not prevented from spewing
his kooksute crap but somehow he can't seem to talk a woman into being in
a simple photo with him.
My challenge to him stands, and apparently, so does his DUCKING of it.
How beta.
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"Ray Gordon" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote in message
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Ray already admitted he couldn't beat mystery at a PU contest...
Ray's little challenge is not to see who can pick up more women, no what ray
wants is for mystery to try to pick up women in a strip club, while ray sits
there and tries to cockblock him.
Which is like challenging an Olympic runner to a "race" when all you plan to
do is jump on his back and claim that if he can't run with you on his back
that proves he's a poor runner.
Meanwhile ray continues to run from the simple challenge of getting a woman
to take a picture with him.
Odious
"Ray Gordon" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote in message
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> Being on strike or protesting does not mean it's forever.
>
Tard, your latest excuse of being on strike is like a man with no arms or
legs refusing to be a world class athlete. See you have to actually be able
to do that which you are refusing to do, in order for the strike to mean
anything... otherwise it is simply the status quo.
You've never come up with any new ideas or concepts. All you've ever done
is rename existing ideas and concepts that were already in circulation... so
you refusing to produce anything new means nothing, since that is the same
thing you've always done... not produce anything new.
> It means that I'm making a statement to those who want new game theory.
>
Do you think nobody with notice that the only thing you're ever able to
produce is excuses for your failure?
> I'd deal with the rest of his post but I have a kick-ass chess PGN file
> that I'm working on.
>
>
Ray once again runs like the coward we all know him to be, when confronted
with the clear simple truth that he knows he can not refute.
I took the ideas and concepts that he claims he invented, and one by one
pointed out specific examples of those ideas and concepts being in use well
before ray's books ever came out.
And ray can't face the truth... so here it is again.
"Ray Gordon" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote in message
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>>>>> I'm currently "on strike" for new advice,
>>>>
>>>> As if anyone is likely to ever ask you for your 'advice'.
>>>
>>> Those who stole or used the old advice tend to want the new stuff that
>>> they need to understand the new "game."
>>
>> And who in their right minds would steal advice from Gordon?
>
> Several gurus have over the years.
Name one.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.seduction.fast/msg/a00c5047e41ac4af?dmode=source&hl=en
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From: r__a_y__g___ord_...@juno.com (Outfoxing The Foxes)
Subject: Re: FOX hunt Challenge?!
Date: 1998/10/15
A lot of what I write incorporates Ross's methods. I talk about
"indirect seduction" and he calls it "running patterns."
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"<------Yes, Odious defined what a Secret Slut is, but I gave it the
NAME. And the NAME is important."
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> Many who post here often cite methods which I designed, but which they
> "learned" through gurus who stole them from me. They include: pivot,
Ignoring the truth won't make the truth go away, ray.
I've shown the term "pivot" being used in ASF as far back as 96 in reference
to 3-way relationships.
I also cited a newsletter from Ross that was posted to ASF way back in 96
that contains a reference to Cialdini's "weapons of automatic influence."
Which include social proof and predate your shit by 3 years.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.mindcontrol/msg/6ebd113e873e2275?d
So not only was the idea of social proof already in use , and being promoted
in ASF and the seduction community before you got here, but the term pivot
was also in use to describe the same basic idea of a guy swinging between
two girls. So you didn't even come up with the term.
You took ideas already in use in ASF and tried to take credit for inventing
them.
>reverse-timetable,
Love Tactics, McKnight/Phillips, copyright 1988, pages 40-44.
In particular, page 43:
"How do you succeed in this? By being slow to reveal your anxiousness
to see the one you want all the time. Let the person think that you
only have limited intentions of getting together again in the future
[...] As long as you keep a person believing that the relationship is
merely casual, time will be on your side."
> incorporating seduction into one's lifestyle (that's what Foxhunting is),
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From: "Ray Gordon" <r...@cybersheet.com>
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: "Lifestyle" is NOT a "seduction technique"
Message-ID: <Xodof.12038$Ys4....@twister.nyc.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 12:33:59 GMT
Lots of "seduction gurus" today preach the importance of LIFESTYLE in
seduction. It's a crock of shit designed to cover the fact that the advice
to improve one's "lifestyle" is in fact advice to get more MONEY with which
to BUY women.
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Oooh my, looks like ray was attacking the idea of incorporating seduction
into your lifestyle... although when it comes to indirect seduction via
lifestyle improvments, what did gordo have to say about it...
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.seduction.fast/msg/a00c5047e41ac4af?dmode=source&hl=en
___________________________________________________________________
From: r__a_y__g___ord_...@juno.com (Outfoxing The Foxes)
Subject: Re: FOX hunt Challenge?!
Date: 1998/10/15
A lot of what I write incorporates Ross's methods. I talk about
"indirect seduction" and he calls it "running patterns."
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No wonder gordo hates the google archives so much.
> CUPID,
The arbitrary and inaccurate rating system that determines what YOU think
women find most attractive.
The crux of which was to be rich, buff, and good looking to improve your
chances with women, which as advice goes is about as unoriginal as you can
get. That shit was covered by Ovid thousands of years ago.
> and returning fox,
Was already in ASF and called turning the tables... renaming existing ideas
does not make them your ideas.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.seduction.fast/msg/5d72beacde9bc546?dmode=source&hl=en
___________________________________________________________________
From: DrSmooth <DrSm0...@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: boyfriend destroyer
Date: 1996/09/10
Message-ID: <32351C...@ix.netcom.com>#1/1
x-netcom-date: Tue Sep 10 2:38:46 AM CDT 1996
Turning the Tables (which i chose to do, revenge motivated probably)
The best thing i used that works was a combination of techniques. First
stop sending the cards, flowers blah blah blah.... Pull away your
attention, suddenly works best. You see she is used to having you want
her and when she feels thats gone she will want it back. I dont care if
you have to take cold shower to do this but it is necessary. THe best
way is to have many options open which lets u do it naturally but
anyways will do.
Second, Start dating other girls, even let her know about it (no
obviously) that will drive her crazy! guaranteed...she will want you
more if you use that in combination with the dramatic decrease in
attention.....
Third after awhile of thise you will notice she will come after you (90
% of the time and if not screw her), and then you have to pounce, go for
it straight off...when you hook up the most important thing is not to
slip back into your old mode again...keep going with the same thing even
after you hook up. She will want you even more bad! trust me...
This worked well for me, i had the girl that was screwing with my mind
for a year in the sack no problem, begging for me to be her boyfriend.
No joke, (Thanks to the mighty jefferies of course)...i told her thanks
but no thanks and denied her, why the hell would u want to date a girl
like that?....
Remember what RS says, never make anything too important like your doing
now, or you will get your ass kicked!
Hope this helps..keep us updated...
DS
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> to name several.
Yeah several ideas you took from ASF, renamed, and tried to claim were your
orginal creation.
>
> By cutting off their faucet, they have to wander in the dark, and they
> have to commit to advice that runs opposite to what they'd be stealing
> from me if i were still releasing my new ideas.
Yeah LOL what ever shall we do without Gordo's advice...
"<------Yes, Odious defined what a Secret Slut is, but I gave it the
NAME. And the NAME is important."
"A lot of what I write incorporates Ross's methods. I talk about
"indirect seduction" and he calls it "running patterns.""
Vince Runza
Shut up, Cartman!
Vince
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