Why the lack of usenet interest in anything JAXA SELENE?
BradGuth
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.space.policy/browse_frm/thread/ba6e27556d88b326/003f35e7781e5cdb#003f35e7781e5cdb
JAXA SELENE/SELINE via H-2A/H-IIA
http://www.jaxa.jp/countdown/f13/index_e.html
http://www.selene.jaxa.jp/index_e.htm
For some silly odd reason there's been nothing of any good (meaning
informative or otherwise deductive) usenet chat about this JAXA moon
mission. It's as though being all super hush-hush or taboo/
nondisclosure rated. Wonder why? (and why the intentional
disinformation spelling of the mission name "SELINE"?)
"The KAGUYA mission targets are the global characterization of lunar
surface and detailed gravimetry."
Sounds perfectly nifty and worth every bit of whatever that mission of
remote obtained science can contribute about our physically dark,
somewhat salty and otherwise unavoidably naked/anticathode worthy
mascon of gamma and X-ray saturated environment, especially as for
eventually offering detailed review per each of our NASA/Apollo hard
landings or impact sites.
Perhaps this time those new and greatly improved CCD obtained images
will honestly utilize their full dynamic range, and thus unavoidably
provide a few good FOVs that'll include the rather nifty vibrance and
unusual natural raw colour spectrum of Venus above the moon's
physically dark horizon, possibly even eventually sharing a few shots
that'll include Earth and Venus within the very same Field Of View
that'll still include something of the moon's natural deep colours and
contrast of those rather unusual mineral deposits.
BTW, only taking 3 weeks instead of 3 days to get SELENE into its
outer-most lunar orbit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-IIA
H2A2022 / 285,000 kg (2 stage + SRBs) / total payload mass was 3020 kg
http://www.jaxa.jp/pr/brochure/pdf/01/rocket01.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SELENE
-
Main Orbiter
Mass: 2914 kg
Size: 2.1 x 2.1 x 4.8 m
Attitude control: Three-axis stabilized
Power: 3.5 kW (Max.)
Mission period: 1 year
Mission Orbit: Circular orbit,
Altitude 100 km
Inclination 90 degree
The total payload mass was reported as 3020 kg + 1400 kg faring
107.1:1 ratio of rocket/payload (323.42/3.02 tonnes)
H2A2022 323.42 tonnes w/fairing and payload, requires those extra 2
SRBs + 2 Solid strap-on Boosters (SSBs)
With an inert mass of merely 42.62 tonnes, or 13.18% (as opposed to
our NASA/Apollo fiasco of having to start off hauling nearly a 30%
worth of inert mass) is what seems more than a bit odd.
As for the SELENE mission delivery only taking an energy efficient 3
weeks (instead of NASA/Apollo's swift 3 days with fuel and payload to
spare) in order to get JAXA's mission into lunar orbit, as such seems
to be entirely believable as based upon those regular laws of fly-by-
rocket physics.
Is there a little something of our NASA/Apollo hocus-pocus conditional
fly-by-rocket physics, that which we do not yet honestly know about?
(apparently so)
- Brad Guth -
Uncle Al
>
> Japan lunar probe reaches orbit
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.space.policy/browse_frm/thread/ba6e27556d88b326/003f35e7781e5cdb#003f35e7781e5cdb
>
> JAXA SELENE/SELINE via H-2A/H-IIA
> http://www.jaxa.jp/countdown/f13/index_e.html
> http://www.selene.jaxa.jp/index_e.htm
> For some silly odd reason there's been nothing of any good (meaning
> informative or otherwise deductive) usenet chat about this JAXA moon
> mission. It's as though being all super hush-hush or taboo/
> nondisclosure rated. Wonder why? (and why the intentional
> disinformation spelling of the mission name "SELINE"?)
It is ignored because it is politicized crap. NASA has a vast
treasure trove of deep frozen asstronaught urine and feces - in
duplicate! So? After all 200 nations map individually every
centimeter^2 of the moon and assign pet names to every pebble and
dimple... will we have a deeper understanding of why more studies are
needed so lunar regolith observations can tell us about terrestrial
weather?
Hey Guth, tell us again how to store 1000 kg of fully ionized atomic
nuclei without any of their electrons for use as fuel in your fully
ionized ion engine. Have you worked out the Coulomb energy of
compression for you fuel tank? Whatcha gonna line it with,
shitanium? Relux? COSMIUM? Positrons?
[snip crap]
> - Brad Guth -
And that face on Mars you puked about for months on end - what
happened to that, Guth?
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2
BradGuth
> BradGuth wrote:
>
> > Japan lunar probe reaches orbit
>
> > JAXA SELENE/SELINE via H-2A/H-IIA
> >http://www.jaxa.jp/countdown/f13/index_e.html
> >http://www.selene.jaxa.jp/index_e.htm
> > For some silly odd reason there's been nothing of any good (meaning
> > informative or otherwise deductive) usenet chat about this JAXA moon
> > mission. It's as though being all super hush-hush or taboo/
> > nondisclosure rated. Wonder why? (and why the intentional
> > disinformation spelling of the mission name "SELINE"?)
>
> It is ignored because it is politicized crap. NASA has a vast
> treasure trove of deep frozen asstronaught urine and feces - in
> duplicate!
Right, "is ignored because it is politicized crap", and otherwise
within your NASA/Apollo Quran is where anything of independent science
truth is either antisemitic or politicised crap... (why of course it
is)
>
> So? After all 200 nations map individually every
> centimeter^2 of the moon and assign pet names to every pebble and
> dimple... will we have a deeper understanding of why more studies are
> needed so lunar regolith observations can tell us about terrestrial
> weather?
Was that semetic rant even necessary? Obviously you have problems
with honest science that's based upon the regular laws of physics.
Why is that?
My goodness, and why exactly does Uncle Al hate Japs so much? (isn't
that being anti-semitic of yourself?)
>
> Hey Guth, tell us again how to store 1000 kg of fully ionized atomic
> nuclei without any of their electrons for use as fuel in your fully
> ionized ion engine. Have you worked out the Coulomb energy of
> compression for you fuel tank? Whatcha gonna line it with,
> shitanium? Relux? COSMIUM? Positrons?
Good question, but it's not the least bit related to this topic
>
> And that face on Mars you puked about for months on end - what
> happened to that, Guth?
Another good but unrelated question for this topic, though I never did
like that Mars face because it looked too much like another semitic
bigoted Yid.
Thus far you're not doing so good, with striking zero out of three or
more contributions that are clearly anti-semantic as well as highly
bigoted and arrogant to boot. Have you nothing constructive of
positive to admirer or contribute about the SELENE mission?
- Brad Guth -
BradGuth
ongoing official banishment of anything JAXA SELENE?
Perhaps JAXA's SELENE/KAGUYA via H-2A/H-IIA is also having to become
another hoax, especially since it's getting so much harder to hide the
truth.
Japan lunar probe reaches orbit
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.space.policy/browse_frm/thread/ba6e27556d88b326/003f35e7781e5cdb#003f35e7781e5cdb
JAXA SELENE/KAGUYA via H-2A/H-IIA
http://www.jaxa.jp/countdown/f13/index_e.html
http://www.selene.jaxa.jp/index_e.htm
For some silly odd reason there's been nothing of any good (meaning
informative or otherwise deductive) usenet chat about this JAXA moon
mission. It's as though being all super hush-hush or taboo/
nondisclosure rated. Wonder why?
"The KAGUYA mission targets are the global characterization of lunar
surface and detailed gravimetry."
Sounds perfectly nifty and worth every bit of whatever that mission of
remote obtained science can contribute about our physically dark,
somewhat salty and otherwise unavoidably naked/anticathode worthy
mascon of gamma and X-ray saturated environment, especially as for
eventually offering those detailed reviews per each of our NASA/Apollo
hard landings or impact sites.
Perhaps this time around those new and greatly improved CCD obtained
images will honestly utilize their full dynamic range, and thus
unavoidably provide a few good FOVs that'll include the rather nifty
vibrance and unusual natural raw colour spectrum of Venus above the
moon's physically dark horizon, possibly even eventually sharing a few
shots that'll include Earth and Venus within the very same Field Of
View that'll still include something of the moon's natural deep
colours and contrast of those rather unusual mineral deposits.
BTW, only taking 3 weeks instead of 3 days to get JAXA's SELENE into
its outer-most lunar orbit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-IIA
H2A2022 / 285,000 kg (2 stage + SRBs) / total payload mass was 3020 kg
http://www.jaxa.jp/pr/brochure/pdf/01/rocket01.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SELENE
-
Main Orbiter
Mass: 2914 kg
Size: 2.1 x 2.1 x 4.8 m
Attitude control: Three-axis stabilized
Power: 3.5 kW (Max.)
Mission period: 1 year
Mission Orbit: Circular orbit,
Altitude 100 km
Inclination 90 degree
Their total payload mass was later reported as 3020 kg + 1400 kg
faring
107:1 ratio of rocket/payload (323.42/3.02 tonnes)
H2A2022 323.42 tonnes w/fairing and payload, requires those extra 2
SRBs + 2 Solid strap-on Boosters (SSBs)
With an inert mass of merely 42.62 tonnes, or 13.18% (as opposed to
our NASA/Apollo fiasco of having to start off hauling nearly a 30%
worth of inert mass and their 60:1 rocket/payload ratio) is what seems
more than a bit odd, if not entirely hocus-pocus worthy.
As for the SELENE mission's orbital delivery process only taking an
energy efficient 3 weeks (instead of NASA/Apollo's swift 3 days with
fuel and payload to spare) in order to get JAXA's 3 tonne mission into
lunar orbit (actually it's taking yet another two weeks for getting
into the desired 100 km polar orbit), as such seems to be entirely
believable as based upon those regular laws of fly-by-rocket physics
that our NASA/Apollo wizards never have to worry about.
http://www.jaxa.jp/countdown/f13/topics/pdf/1007_0330_loi3_e.pdf
Is there a little something about our Third Reich semitic fortified
NASA/Apollo hocus-pocus worth of conditional fly-by-rocket physics,
BradGuth
claiming their NASA/Apollo Quran is but all there is to say about our
salty old moon?
- Brad Guth -
John Griffin
> Why all the unusual lack of topic interest, or rather perhaps
> why the ongoing official banishment of anything JAXA SELENE?
Who cares? Hint: Nobody and nobody else, i.e., only you.
BradGuth
Gee whiz, of JAXA taking essentially 5 weeks in order to establish
their 100 km orbit, and having used up a 107:1 ratio worth of rocket
per payload that was less than 14% inert, is what seems perfecty
doable.
Can you otherwise say as to why JAXA was so fly-by-rocket inefficient?
Say again how our NASA Apollo semitic Third Reich wizards managed to
accomplish their rad-hard 3 day trip to the moon with fuel and payload
to spare, and having only a 60:1 ratio of rocket per payload that was
nearly 30% inert to start off with.
Is there a little something special about such fly-by-rocket physics
we're not being told?
- Brad Guth -
John Griffin
> On Oct 8, 10:01 am, John Griffin <thathillbi...@yahooie.com>
> wrote:
>> BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Why all the unusual lack of topic interest, or rather
>> > perhaps why the ongoing official banishment of anything
>> > JAXA SELENE?
>>
>> Who cares? Hint: Nobody and nobody else, i.e., only you.
>
> Gee whiz, of JAXA taking essentially 5 weeks in order to
> establish their 100 km orbit, and having used up a 107:1 ratio
> worth of rocket per payload that was less than 14% inert, is
> what seems perfecty doable.
>
> Can you otherwise say as to why JAXA was so fly-by-rocket
> inefficient?
We'll never know. It's too bad the term "Inscrutable orientals"
has been purged. Just ask yourself "Who knows what goes on in the
mind of a Jap?" They planned their mission with that vehicle and
that propulsion system. Why? Who cares?
> Say again how our NASA Apollo semitic Third Reich wizards
> managed to accomplish their rad-hard 3 day trip to the moon
> with fuel and payload to spare, and having only a 60:1 ratio
> of rocket per payload that was nearly 30% inert to start off
> with.
Anyone who took you seriously enough to try to explain that to
you would first have to boil away layers of silliness.
> Is there a little something special about such fly-by-rocket
> physics we're not being told?
There could be literally a ton of stuff we aren't being told.
Maybe you could get a complete copy of the mission specifications
on about that much microfiche. Why would we want to be told
everything?
There is no "fly by rocket physics" that precludes either a three
day trip, an eleven day trip, or even a one-year trip to a moon
rendezvous.
I was going to ask you what the hell you're talking about, but
you don't know.
BradGuth
> John Griffin <thathillbi...@yahooie.com> wrote:
>
> John, put the Guthball in your killfile. He belongs there. There's no arguing with him and those
> of his ilk (paranoic conspriacy-theory wackos), and I gave up trying. I'll take the word of
> Apollo Astronauts I've met (Al Bean, LMP Apollo 12; and Jack Schmitt, LMP Apollo 17) over
> some refugee from a lunaticy asylum's delusional fantasies any day. If, and I do mean if,
> anyone believes a word of his ravings, then I've got some beachfront property for sale: in
> New Mexico! (the bridge in Brooklyn's long been off the market) Just plonk him and forget
> about him.
That's right, any time the whole truth and nothing but the truth
emerges, just killfile it, or otherwise fully attack it as much the
same as those Yids intentionally attacked our USS LIBERTY, and then
simply continually lie about it as being merely an accident or some
kind of friendly fire misunderstanding.
- Brad Guth -
BradGuth
> BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Oct 8, 10:01 am, John Griffin <thathillbi...@yahooie.com>
> > wrote:
> >> BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Why all the unusual lack of topic interest, or rather
> >> > perhaps why the ongoing official banishment of anything
> >> > JAXA SELENE?
>
> >> Who cares? Hint: Nobody and nobody else, i.e., only you.
>
> > Gee whiz, of JAXA taking essentially 5 weeks in order to
> > establish their 100 km orbit, and having used up a 107:1 ratio
> > worth of rocket per payload that was less than 14% inert, is
> > what seems perfecty doable.
>
> > Can you otherwise say as to why JAXA was so fly-by-rocket
> > inefficient?
>
> We'll never know. It's too bad the term "Inscrutable orientals"
> has been purged. Just ask yourself "Who knows what goes on in the
> mind of a Jap?" They planned their mission with that vehicle and
> that propulsion system. Why? Who cares?
Obviously anyone backing our hocus-pocus NASA/Apollo missions cares a
great deal, as to not sharing a word of physics or rocket science
truth that would easily spill all of those semitic beans in hell.
>
> > Say again how our NASA Apollo semitic Third Reich wizards
> > managed to accomplish their rad-hard 3 day trip to the moon
> > with fuel and payload to spare, and having only a 60:1 ratio
> > of rocket per payload that was nearly 30% inert to start off
> > with.
>
> Anyone who took you seriously enough to try to explain that to
> you would first have to boil away layers of silliness.
>
> > Is there a little something special about such fly-by-rocket
> > physics we're not being told?
>
> There could be literally a ton of stuff we aren't being told.
> Maybe you could get a complete copy of the mission specifications
> on about that much microfiche. Why would we want to be told
> everything?
>
> There is no "fly by rocket physics" that precludes either a three
> day trip, an eleven day trip, or even a one-year trip to a moon
> rendezvous.
You've got to be kidding, as in far beyond kidding and otherwise lying
your infomercial spewing butt off.
>
> I was going to ask you what the hell you're talking about, but
> you don't know.
What a total wuss and a damn liar to boot. So, at least you agree
that there "could be literally a ton of stuff we aren't being told".
No kidding, as I and many others say.
Yourself and none others of your kind can manage to cover your butts
on a good number of important if not rather critical and/or essential
mission related issues, especially those pertaining to physics, not to
mention the replicated science of those unfiltered Kodak moments that
simply do not add up to the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Our mutually perpetrated cold-war (meaning both sides) was nothing but
lies upon lies from the very get go, so why not more of the same
crapolla as pertaining to our supposedly having walked on the moon,
and of most everything else related to our having to support the
supposed science of that NASA/Apollo fiasco?
The human DNA matter of truth is that it's entirely lethal but
otherwise a whole lot safer to go to Mars than to visit our moon for
even a brief look-see, especially as going within such limited shield
of what our Apollo wizards had to work with.
It's also why there's such an ongoing banishment effort imposed
against whatever's intelligent that's existing/coexisting on Venus, as
well as imposed against 100% of every other research word that I have
ever contributed. You folks know damn good and well that it's exactly
what Yids do best in order to cover their Third Reich semitic butts
while keeping others outside of their faith-based cultism ruse from
ever getting ahead.
- Brad Guth -
John Griffin
Calm yourself, Brad. I don't have, have never had, and will
never have a killfile.
Rand Simberg
<thathi...@yahooie.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
such a way as to indicate that:
Too bad. Guess we'll have to killfile you as well, because we don't
want to see the continual core dump of Brad's insanity.
BradGuth
Good for you, as I've never quite figured out what's so great about
having any such killfile, of essentially moderating out each and every
item that doesn't agree with my mindset. I have no problems in my not
bothering to read those topics that seems in poor taste, or worse
than.
Guess I'm not sufficiently Yiddish or Third Reight as so many others
seemingly are. I'm also not overly sensitive about sharing the best
available truths.
Is there any chance you've got an idea as to why it's taking JAXA's
Selene mission 5 weeks getting itself into that 100 km orbit of our
moon, especially considering their 107:1 ratio of rocket per payload
that was of less than 14% inert to start with?
You'd think by NASA/Apollo fly-by-rocket standards, that by now with
such a low amount of inert mass that they could have gotten at least
twice that amount of payload tonnage into their 100 km orbit within 3
days using that very same rocket. Did they take the long way by
accident?
- Brad Guth -
Double-A
They took the scenic route.
Double-A
John Griffin
No one cares. They planned their mission, and NASA planned its
mission. They were different. DUH
>> > Say again how our NASA Apollo semitic Third Reich wizards
>> > managed to accomplish their rad-hard 3 day trip to the moon
>> > with fuel and payload to spare, and having only a 60:1
>> > ratio of rocket per payload that was nearly 30% inert to
>> > start off with.
>>
>> Anyone who took you seriously enough to try to explain that
>> to you would first have to boil away layers of silliness.
>>
>> > Is there a little something special about such
>> > fly-by-rocket physics we're not being told?
>>
>> There could be literally a ton of stuff we aren't being told.
>> Maybe you could get a complete copy of the mission
>> specifications on about that much microfiche. Why would we
>> want to be told everything?
>>
>> There is no "fly by rocket physics" that precludes either a
>> three day trip, an eleven day trip, or even a one-year trip
>> to a moon rendezvous.
>
> You've got to be kidding, as in far beyond kidding and
> otherwise lying your infomercial spewing butt off.
Not kidding. Since you're representing yourself as a qualified
critic of "fly by rocket physics," you should either post a
refutation of what I said or do the math to show, for example,
how long it would take to get to the moon's orbit if you started
with a 100000kg vehicle in Earth orbit in the lunar orbital plane
and gave it a constant acceleration with a miniature ion engine
producing one gram of thrust. While you're at it, do the same
calculation for the biggest chemical rocket you could have on the
same vehicle. Just for fun, of course.
>> I was going to ask you what the hell you're talking about,
>> but you don't know.
>
> What a total wuss and a damn liar to boot. So, at least you
> agree that there "could be literally a ton of stuff we aren't
> being told". No kidding, as I and many others say.
You didn't get it. I was talking about the ton of paperwork it
takes to define such a mission. For example, the size and
composition of the ball bearings in a fuel pump.
> Yourself and none others of your kind can manage to cover your
> butts on a good number of important if not rather critical
> and/or essential mission related issues, especially those
> pertaining to physics, not to mention the replicated science
> of those unfiltered Kodak moments that simply do not add up to
> the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Educate us, brad. Don't embarrass yourself by continuing to spew
the goofy notion that Venus could show up on film along with the
moon's surface.
> Our mutually perpetrated cold-war (meaning both sides) was
> nothing but lies upon lies from the very get go, so why not
> more of the same crapolla as pertaining to our supposedly
> having walked on the moon, and of most everything else related
> to our having to support the supposed science of that
> NASA/Apollo fiasco?
Brad waxes incoherent.
> The human DNA matter of truth is that it's entirely lethal but
> otherwise a whole lot safer to go to Mars than to visit our
> moon for even a brief look-see, especially as going within
> such limited shield of what our Apollo wizards had to work
> with.
Maybe they were just lucky. <snicker> It would have taken far
more than mere luck, on the other hand, to perpetrate the fraud
you and a few demented jerkoffs yap about.
> It's also why there's such an ongoing banishment effort
> imposed against whatever's intelligent that's
> existing/coexisting on Venus, as well as imposed against 100%
> of every other research word that I have ever contributed.
"Research word"?! WTF are you yapping about now?!
Funny you should mention "every other word." Your nonsense would
be just as rational if you took every paragraph and made two by
routing odd-numbered words to one and even to the other.
> You folks know damn good and well that it's exactly what Yids
> do best in order to cover their Third Reich semitic butts
> while keeping others outside of their faith-based cultism ruse
> from ever getting ahead.
Are you referring to certain "Yids," or all "Yids"? Am I to
accept the idea that I've been transmogrified from a blend of
various European tribes and one red injun tribe to a Yid? Why
wasn't I informed of this in advance?
What, exactly, is a "Third Reich semitic butt" in your
fantasyland? I can't find any evidence of any such thing.
BradGuth
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In other silly "John Griffin" words of entirely avoiding the question
or intent of this topic, you're not about to spill any of those beans,
or at least not about to help rock any of your hocus-pocus NASA/Apollo
ruse of your perpetrated cold-war century.
I believe that we understand, fully. No wonder that Yids and fellow
rusemasters of a kind so flock together, no matters what the
consequences.
- Brad Guth -
BradGuth
Not much question about that. Though could it otherwise be that such
fly-by-rocket physics has gone a good half century back in time?
Would not cutting the amount of time per given trek of getting from
Earth to our moon in half require 4 times the applied energy?
Is that also why the usenet gauntlet of spermware/fuckware is trying
out every dirty trick in their Semitic Quran in order to nail my poor
old PC to the next available cross?
- Brad Guth -
John Griffin
Simply put, that's the way they designed their mission.
> You'd think by NASA/Apollo fly-by-rocket standards, that by
> now with such a low amount of inert mass that they could have
> gotten at least twice that amount of payload tonnage into
> their 100 km orbit within 3 days using that very same rocket.
> Did they take the long way by accident?
I reckon they would be willing to tell you. Don't post their
answer here, though, because it doesn't matter.
John Griffin
I'm willing to show you how to skip articles that don't interest
you. Just ask.
Rand Simberg
>>>Calm yourself, Brad. I don't have, have never had, and will
>>>never have a killfile.
>>
>> Too bad. Guess we'll have to killfile you as well, because we
>> don't want to see the continual core dump of Brad's insanity.
>
>I'm willing to show you how to skip articles that don't interest
>you. Just ask.
I know how to do it. I killfile the people who continually post them.
It's quite effective, particularly when the only posts that I see from
them are replies to Brad Guth.
BradGuth
Interesting in how the regular laws of whatever's the most efficient
fly-by-rocket physics doesn't matter, unless it's NASA/Apollo
scripted.
- Brad Guth -
BradGuth
wrote:
> On 11 Oct 2007 10:39:22 GMT, in a place far, far away, John Griffin
> such a way as to indicate that:
>
> >>>Calm yourself, Brad. I don't have, have never had, and will
> >>>never have a killfile.
>
> >> Too bad. Guess we'll have to killfile you as well, because we
> >> don't want to see the continual core dump of Brad's insanity.
>
> >I'm willing to show you how to skip articles that don't interest
> >you. Just ask.
>
> I know how to do it. I killfile the people who continually post them.
> It's quite effective, particularly when the only posts that I see from
> them are replies to Brad Guth.
Isn't that a Yiddish/semitic kind of thing you folks and of others
that brown-nosed their way through life, at the collateral damage and
demise of the innocent, essentially do is killfile all the time?
Would you killfile the Pope?
Is that killfile process of yours the same as sharing your usenet
spermware/fuckware into my poor old PC?
- Brad Guth -
Randy Poe
> Would not cutting the amount of time per given trek of getting from
> Earth to our moon in half require 4 times the applied energy?
No. Most of the trip is coasting.
Anyway, it didn't take 3 weeks for Selene to transit to the
moon. The schedule shows it leaving Earth orbit on Sep. 29,
and inserting into lunar orbit on Oct. 4.
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/10/20071001_kaguya_e.html
(Notice events 10 and 11 on the figure at the bottom).
- Randy
John Griffin
>
> In other silly "John Griffin" words of entirely avoiding the
> question or intent of this topic, you're not about to spill
> any of those beans, or at least not about to help rock any of
> your hocus-pocus NASA/Apollo ruse of your perpetrated cold-war
> century.
>
> I believe that we understand, fully. No wonder that Yids and
> fellow rusemasters of a kind so flock together, no matters
> what the consequences.
> - Brad Guth -
It's amazing that you can stay full of shit while spewing so much
of it day after day.
BradGuth
In other words, anything on behalf of JAXA or Selene is your kind of
shit that has absolutely no scientific or physics point or worth of
kind. As I'd said, we understand your problem of not wanting to share
and share alike, especially if there's any bean spilling that might
take place.
Do you think JAXA,s Selene CCD images are going to be as DR limited?
Just like Messenger's piss poor image of Earth, the New Horizon CCD
image of Jupiter and Io had been extremely DR limited, as to offering
not much better DR than my cell-phone camera could provide (certainly
far worse off than film). Why would they only utilize 0.1% or less of
their CCD Dynamic Range?
- Brad Guth -
BradGuth
- Brad Guth -
BradGuth
a worthy anticathode worth of a physically dark pitstop of cosmic
minerals, including various salts, yellowcake and He3 to burn (sort of
speak), whereas Venus is very much an active planetology that's
relatively newish and representing loads of renewable energy as is.
Only a damn fool of a bigot that's less smart than a hot rock couldn't
make a go of it while on Venus, that is unless those pesky laws of
physics work differently while off-world. I'm certain that JAXA's
Selene mission is pretty much stuck with those regular old laws of
physics, like what got their mission into orbiting our moon had taken
such a tremendous amount of applied fly-by-rocket energy.
> Painius:
>How can *anyone* seriously contemplate that
>L I F E on Earth is the only L I F E in this vast
>Cosmos?--or that humans are the pinnacle of it?
I agree, as for only a true intellectual bigot or that of a Zion
pretend atheist could ever consider Earth as being their one any only
viable planet for accommodating intelligent other life (that is as
long as it's semitic).
Earth's planetology isn't even all that extra special, other than
being essentially 98.5% fluid to those pesky forces of gravity/tidal
interactions, especially as having to deal with such a horrific mascon
that's orbiting so close by and going fast enough to be causing the
vast majority of global warming since its arrival, as well as having
been traumatising mother Earth ever since the last ice age this planet
will ever see.
Just the Milky Way is likely home to thousands if not millions of
other highly intelligent forms of life that has never seen nor much
less set their ET foot or whatever weird DNA on Earth. In addition,
thare are likely more than a few cosmic billion worth of rogue stars
and their collections of viable planets, as well as a few interstellar
rogue mother planets of multiple Jupiter class or as brown dwarfs
having substantial orbiting items the size of Earth for intelligent
other life to play along with. At least that's not only what a few
other research wizards are starting to report, but as well as having
been the case of what our spendy supercomputers have been telling us
for the past several decades, as based entirely upon those regular
laws of physics and orbital dynamics.
Supercomputer simulators can do almost anything in real 3D time, or in
advanced forward/backward time. Go figure as to why those public
owned, housed and staffed supercomputers are being kept so taboo/
nondisclosure rated. Of course, the GOOGLE/NOVA supercomputer is at
least ten fold better than anything we own publicly. (go figure as to
why GOOGLE/NOVA are not sharing)
- Brad Guth -
BradGuth
> Japan lunar probe reaches orbithttp://groups.google.com/group/sci.space.policy/browse_frm/thread/ba6...
>
> For some silly odd reason there's been nothing of any good (meaning
> informative or otherwise deductive) usenet chat about this JAXA moon
> mission. It's as though being all super hush-hush or taboo/
> disinformation spelling of the mission name "SELINE"?)
>
> surface and detailed gravimetry."
> Sounds perfectly nifty and worth every bit of whatever that mission of
> remote obtained science can contribute about our physically dark,
> somewhat salty and otherwise unavoidably naked/anticathode worthy
> mascon of gamma and X-ray saturated environment, especially as for
> landings or impact sites.
>
> Perhaps this time those new and greatly improved CCD obtained images
> will honestly utilize their full dynamic range, and thus unavoidably
> provide a few good FOVs that'll include the rather nifty vibrance and
> unusual natural raw colour spectrum of Venus above the moon's
> physically dark horizon, possibly even eventually sharing a few shots
> that'll include Earth and Venus within the very same Field Of View
> that'll still include something of the moon's natural deep colours and
> contrast of those rather unusual mineral deposits.
>
> -
> Main Orbiter
> Mass: 2914 kg
> Size: 2.1 x 2.1 x 4.8 m
> Attitude control: Three-axis stabilized
> Power: 3.5 kW (Max.)
> Mission period: 1 year
> Mission Orbit: Circular orbit,
> Altitude 100 km
> Inclination 90 degree
>
>
> 107.1:1 ratio of rocket/payload (323.42/3.02 tonnes)
> H2A2022 323.42 tonnes w/fairing and payload, requires those extra 2
> SRBs + 2 Solid strap-on Boosters (SSBs)
>
> With an inert mass of merely 42.62 tonnes, or 13.18% (as opposed to
> our NASA/Apollo fiasco of having to start off hauling nearly a 30%
>
> As for the SELENE mission delivery only taking an energy efficient 3
> weeks (instead of NASA/Apollo's swift 3 days with fuel and payload to
> spare) in order to get JAXA's mission into lunar orbit, as such seems
> to be entirely believable as based upon those regular laws of fly-by-
> rocket physics.
>
> Is there a little something of our NASA/Apollo hocus-pocus conditional
> fly-by-rocket physics, that which we do not yet honestly know about?
> (apparently so)
> - Brad Guth -
KAGUYA/(SELENE) HDTV/CCD imaging getting its first full solar dosage
or saturation of those pesky raw secondary photons.
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/10/20071021_kaguya_e.pdf
http://www.selene.jaxa.jp/index_e.htm
http://www.kaguya.jaxa.jp/en/
Notice as to all of the unavoidable UV secondary/recoil worth of
bluish and/or violet saturation that KAGUYA/(SELENE) HDTV is having to
deal with, even though currently using not more than 1% worth of their
dynamic range(DR). Far better images are soon enough going to be
accomplished, especially with those other onboard CCD instruments.
Once their PhotoShop of image colour adjustments are made, the true
depth of contrast and spectrum of natural moon colours will emerge (of
far more than the naked human eye can detect).
Once again, it's too bad that we don't even have anything established
within the moon's L1, much less accomplishing those 1 meter/pixel
images that eventually KAGUYA/(SELENE) will accomplish towards the end
of its mission.
- Brad Guth -
Rick....@gmail.com
> JAXA's Selene is still officially taboo/nondisclosure rated.
> - Brad Guth -
For such a major scientific development, I was really surprised that
this had not recieved any coverage. It was only by some really out of
the way surfing that I found mention of this. I do not understand why.
BradGuth
It's obviously because of the ongoing NASA/Apollo cold-war ruse/sting
of the century, in that our moon hasn't been actually walked upon by
any of our folks as supposedly having all the "right stuff", and
there's much more to this kind of nondisclosure or banishment of
anything having to do with our somewhat salty old moon that's so
physically dark, naked and thus unavoidably anticathode saturated in
gamma and X-rays (especially by day when it's also double IR hot as
hell).
There will most likely be little or nothing of JAXA or China's
Chang'e-1 orbital moon explorations as offered by other than a few of
us brave souls willing to take on the mainstream status quo flak. It
seems that our Third Reich Yids tend to get the most upset whenever
there anything but NASA infomercials about our moon to deal with.
- Brad Guth -
BradGuth
China's (CNSA) moon mission: Chang'e-1 should be interesting, that is
if they can manage to keep their stuff from running into JAXA's KAGUYA/
(SELENE) mission of three orbiting items. As reported, China's probe
will be at roughly 200 km, thus keeping a safe 100 km distance away
from the KAGUYA/(SELENE) mission, at least that's plan-A.
KAGUYA/(SELENE) HDTV/CCD imaging getting its first full solar dosage
or saturation of those pesky raw secondary photons.
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/10/20071021_kaguya_e.pdf
http://www.selene.jaxa.jp/index_e.htm
http://www.kaguya.jaxa.jp/en/
Notice as to all of the unavoidable UV secondary/recoil worth of
bluish and/or extra violet saturation that KAGUYA/(SELENE) HDTV is
having to deal with, even though having incorproated a sufficient UV
spectrum cut-off filter and currently using not more than 1% worth of
their HDTV dynamic range(DR). Far better images are soon enough going
to be accomplished, especially with those other onboard CCD
instruments.
Once their PhotoShop of image colour adjustments are made, the true
depth of contrast and spectrum of those natural mineral rich moon
colours will emerge (of far more extensive scope than the naked human
eye can detect).
Once again, it's too bad that we still don't even have anything
established within the moon's L1, much less accomplishing those 1
meter/pixel images that eventually KAGUYA/(SELENE) will likely manage
to accomplish towards the end of its one year mission.
- Brad Guth -
Randy Poe
How much coverage do you see of NASA's various lunar
surveys? Or of any of NASA's other unmanned missions?
- Randy
BradGuth
Our NASA/Apollo missions were rather extremely well infomercial hyped
and covered on a global basis, and therefore the first of Japan's or
especially those of China's efforts should have been worth at least a
couple of front pages and even well above the fold disclosures.
Other than my usenet efforts, JAXA and China's CNSA don't hardly
exist. Perhaps it's because they each had to stick with using those
pesky regular old laws of physics for their fly-by-rocket
accomplishments, and those having taken so much longer for getting
their rad-hard robotics into orbiting our physically dark, gamma + X-
ray saturated and somewhat salty old moon.
Instead, our American and mostly Yiddish usenet of official naysayism
is still officially in charge of topic/author stalking, bashing and
promoting as much banishment as they can muster, while they continue
to snooker and thus further dumbfounding us for all it's worth, and
then some.
- Brad Guth -
BradGuth
> On Oct 10, 5:14 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Would not cutting the amount of time per given trek of getting from
> > Earth to our moon in half require 4 times the applied energy?
>
> No. Most of the trip is coasting.
True, but you also have to slow such things down once getting there,
or else. Going NASA/Apollo fast meant taking more launch and escape
energy, as well as having that essential spare cache of fuel for
slowing our nearly 50 tonne payload down to a dull roar of
accomplishing that nearly circular 100 km orbit.
Good thing Venus was never once in sight, as that vibrant and nearby
thing alone would have screwed up everthing but good, especially as of
missions A11, A14 and A16.
>
> Anyway, it didn't take 3 weeks for Selene to transit to the
> moon. The schedule shows it leaving Earth orbit on Sep. 29,
> and inserting into lunar orbit on Oct. 4.
>
> http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/10/20071001_kaguya_e.html
> (Notice events 10 and 11 on the figure at the bottom).
That's true, as it's actually took nearly 5 weeks from time of launch
for getting their little missions into their required 100 km orbit,
that which our NASA/Apollo team of crack Third Reich Yids accomplished
in just a little over three days, with having only that 60:1 ratio of
rocket/payload, that was of also nearly 30% inert GLOW (more than
twice the KAGUYA/(SELENE) mission) to start off with. (were we
actually that good 40+ years ago, or what?)
You know, I'd buy into a NASA/Apollo 24 tonne deployment into that 100
km orbit.
- Brad Guth -
BradGuth
accomplishing far better Earth science, plus a survivable space based
NEO security needs, is going to be best afforded by having a
substantial investment in our moon's L1. Perhaps Japan, China or even
India will help take care of us, while the the likes of America and
Russia focus upon playing those silly global energy domination war-
games of taking fossil and yellowcake energy away from Muslims.
Here's more of that other nifty info tidbit of good news that we can
all use, and per usual there's even a few related consequences (though
mostly positive) to boot. Too bad there's not so much as one word
about Clarke Station or that of my LSE-CM/ISS.
As per Usenet's infomercial/infowar spewed fuckology/naysay/banishment
or simply Zion/Yid status quo or bust usual, here's yet another old
Boeing RASC study/report that clearly has our hocus-pocus NASA wizards
working as though having rad-hard DNA within our moon's L1 for all
it's worth, naturally having excluded anything "Clarke Station" or
that mention of my tethered "LSE-CM/ISS".
OASIS / Earth-Moon L1 Gateway Missions / Executive Summary 10/2/2001
http://spacecraft.ssl.umd.edu/design_lib/OASISEXEC_97.pdf
Since relocating our moon to Earth's L1 is technically doable, but no
matters what is likely never going to get accomplished, is why looking
far away from anything associated with utilizing our moon or of its L1
is NASA's only viable option.
Too bad our moon's rather nifty L1 has always been kept so unusually
need-to-know and/or taboo, to the sorry point of having been as
nondisclosure rated as is most of everything associated with our
physically dark and unavoidably anticathode worthy moon. Of course,
that's actually reinforcing more of the same good news for otherwise
commercially accomplishing our cool POOF City at Venus L2(VL2)
instead.
- Brad Guth -
BradGuth
interesting, that is if they can manage to keep their stuff from
As reported, China's lunar probe will supposedly remain at roughly 200
km, thus keeping a safe 100 km distance away from the KAGUYA/(SELENE)
mission, at least that's plan-A.
(From The Yomiuri Shimbun, Oct. 29, 2007)
"China's space technology was already at a high level. China has
launched more than 100 Long March rockets since 1970, while Japan's H2-
A rocket has been launched only 13 times."
KAGUYA/(SELENE) HDTV/CCD imaging getting its first full solar dosage
or skewed saturation of those pesky raw secondary photons.
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/10/20071021_kaguya_e.pdf
http://www.selene.jaxa.jp/index_e.htm
http://www.kaguya.jaxa.jp/en/
Notice as to all of those unavoidable UV secondary/recoil worth of
bluish and/or extra violet saturation that KAGUYA/(SELENE) HDTV is
having to deal with, even though their having incorproated a
sufficient UV spectrum cut-off filter and currently using not more
than 1% worth of their HDTV dynamic range(DR), even so having no
problems with recording the physically dark moon along with Earth
that's not even half the albedo worth of Vemus which also has greater
than 2.6 kw/m2 to work with. Far better images are soon enough going
to be accomplished, especially with those other onboard CCD
instruments that'll far exceed what most previous science about our
extremely unusual moon.
Once their PhotoShop of image colour adjustments are made, the true
depth of that physically dark contrast and spectrum of those natural
mineral rich moon colors will emerge (with far more extensive scope
than the naked human eye can detect).
Once again, it's really too bad that we still don't have anything
established within the moon's L1, much less accomplishing those 1
meter/pixel images that eventually KAGUYA/(SELENE) will likely manage
to accomplish towards the end of its one year mission, as the KAGUYA/
(SELENE) orbit becomes less than 10 km.
- Brad Guth -
Randy Poe
> On Oct 24, 8:00 pm, Randy Poe <poespam-t...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Oct 24, 9:05 am, Rick.Hwo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > On Oct 17, 9:47 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > JAXA's Selene is still officially taboo/nondisclosure rated.
> > > > - Brad Guth -
>
> > > For such a major scientific development, I was really surprised that
> > > this had not recieved any coverage. It was only by some really out of
> > > the way surfing that I found mention of this. I do not understand why.
>
> > How much coverage do you see of NASA's various lunar
> > surveys? Or of any of NASA's other unmanned missions?
>
> Our NASA/Apollo missions were rather extremely well infomercial hyped
> and covered on a global basis,
40 years ago. The discussion is coverage of space missions
in 2007, not the editorial decisions made 40 years ago.You
know it's 2007, right?
How much coverage do you see of NASA's various lunar
surveys (in 2007)? Or of any of NASA's other unmanned
missions (in 2007)?
- Randy
Jeff☠Relf
in the ISS would do wonders for Nasa.
WMAP's images of anisotropies in the gaussian C.M.B. blackbody
doesn't help nearly as much.
CWatters
"Jeff?Relf" <Jeff...@Yahoo.COM> wrote in message
news:Jeff_Relf_2007...@Cotse.NET...
> Britney Spears barfing at a space toilet
> in the ISS would do wonders for Nasa.
Were that to happen I imagine their budget wouldn't last as long as her
marriage to Jason Alexander .
BradGuth
> On Oct 25, 11:28 am,BradGuth<bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 24, 8:00 pm, Randy Poe <poespam-t...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Oct 24, 9:05 am, Rick.Hwo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > On Oct 17, 9:47 am,BradGuth<bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > - Brad Guth -
>
> > > > For such a major scientific development, I was really surprised that
> > > > this had not recieved any coverage. It was only by some really out of
> > > > the way surfing that I found mention of this. I do not understand why.
>
> > > How much coverage do you see of NASA's various lunar
> > > surveys? Or of any of NASA's other unmanned missions?
>
> > Our NASA/Apollo missions were rather extremely well infomercial hyped
> > and covered on a global basis,
>
> 40 years ago. The discussion is coverage of space missions
> in 2007, not the editorial decisions made 40 years ago.You
> know it's 2007, right?
>
> How much coverage do you see of NASA's various lunar
> surveys (in 2007)? Or of any of NASA's other unmanned
> missions (in 2007)?
That's a rather silly diversion or damage-control sort of wussy reply,
or perhaps anti-contribution to this topic, don't you think!
Unlike yourself and others of your infomercial spewing kind, I'm quite
impressed with the recent efforts of Japan, China and soon India.
Would you much rather they focus their best talent and limited
resources upon making WMD?
- Brad Guth -
Randy Poe
> On Oct 29, 6:40 am, Randy Poe <poespam-t...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Oct 25, 11:28 am,BradGuth<bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Oct 24, 8:00 pm, Randy Poe <poespam-t...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Oct 24, 9:05 am, Rick.Hwo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > > On Oct 17, 9:47 am,BradGuth<bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > >JAXA'sSelene is still officially taboo/nondisclosure rated.
> > > > > > - Brad Guth -
>
> > > > > For such a major scientific development, I was really surprised that
> > > > > this had not recieved any coverage. It was only by some really out of
> > > > > the way surfing that I found mention of this. I do not understand why.
>
> > > > How much coverage do you see of NASA's various lunar
> > > > surveys? Or of any of NASA's other unmanned missions?
>
> > > Our NASA/Apollo missions were rather extremely well infomercial hyped
> > > and covered on a global basis,
>
> > 40 years ago. The discussion is coverage of space missions
> > in 2007, not the editorial decisions made 40 years ago.You
> > know it's 2007, right?
>
> > How much coverage do you see of NASA's various lunar
> > surveys (in 2007)? Or of any of NASA's other unmanned
> > missions (in 2007)?
>
> That's a rather silly diversion or damage-control sort of wussy reply,
> or perhaps anti-contribution to this topic, don't you think!
No, I don't think.
The question: Is the coverage of this Japanese lunar mission
unusually low?
To answer this: compare coverage to coverage of other
current missions. Otherwise how could you know if the
coverage is unusually low?
Hence, the coverage of other missions is relevant to answering
the question, to seeing whether your belief in unusually
low coverage is justified.
So: How's the coverage of other space missions in this
decade?
- Randy
BradGuth
Since you folks know that I was speaking of your usenet anti-think-
tank coverage, what's your point?
How many examples of topic/author exclusions and/or banishment upon
anything that's not of your NASA/Apollo God's work would you like to
further lie about?
Even ESA stuff is given the usenet cold shoulder, or the boot, by way
of simply ignoring whatever is shared, and/or by way of bashing it
into submission if not clowning it to death.
- Brad Guth -
BradGuth
Since you folks know that I was speaking of your usenet anti-think-
BradGuth
it seems there's good old China that's acting extremely wise and fully
in charge of accomplishing their task of mapping and thus further
exploring the potential of our moon, with future intentions of their
robotically mining for those raw elements, including He3. Perhaps if
our moon is in any way hollow or with geode pockets of good enough
volume for accommodating a few brave humans, whereas China and quite
possibly their partnerships with Japan and India will seriously pay
off, while we're stuck with suppressing a few too many pissed off
Muslims, as well as our having to pay through the nose for the likes
of terrestrial fossil, synfuels and even yellowcake.
Chang'e 1 sends back moon picture
http://www.china.org.cn/english/China/232774.htm
China's first lunar probe Chang'e 1 sent back its first moon picture
on Tuesday as scheduled, the National Space Administration has said.
Experts will later adjust cameras on the satellite according to the
moon picture's quality to ensure following photos are clear and
accurate, the Shaanxi-based West China City Daily reported today.
The first moon photo will be made public next week, the report cited
the administration as saying.
Tests on the orbiter's equipment showed that it is working normally
and in good condition, the administration said.
The probe had orbited the moon 168 times by 2 pm yesterday, the
administration said.
More tests will be conducted in the next few days that will help
ensure data transmissions continue. The satellite has gone through a
number of tests since it entered the moon's orbit on November 7.
Chang'e 1's position was adjusted on Monday so its probing equipment
faced the moon.
The satellite, named after a mythical Chinese goddess who flew to the
moon, is supposed to stay 200 km above the moon's surface to carry out
scientific explorations for one year.
Cameras on the 2,350-kilogram satellite are expected to photograph
every inch of the moon's surface by mid January.
The orbiter is expected to analyze the chemical and mineral
composition of the lunar surface and send data back to the Earth so
that scientists can better understand the moon's environment, Li
Guoping, the administration's spokesman, said in earlier reports.
Chang'e 1 blasted off on a Long March 3A carrier rocket on October 24
from the Xichang Satellite Launch Center in Sichuan Province, marking
the first step of China's ambitious 10-year moon plan, which will lead
to a moon landing and launch of a moon rover around 2012.
In the third phase, scheduled for 2017, another rover will land on the
moon and return to earth with lunar soil and stone samples for
scientific research.
In 2003, China became only the third country in the world after the
United States and Russia to send a human into orbit.
(Shanghai Daily November 22, 2007)
-
Perhaps China will have little if any perpetrated cold-war need of any
faith-based cloak and dagger distorting or excluding of the truth, or
otherwise holding back their new and improved science data about our
naked, physically dark, somewhat salty and unavoidably reactive/
anticathode moon that has such an electrostatic dusty surface of
unusual mascon considerations, as well as being continually saturated
in cosmic gamma and X-rays (especially by day when it's also double IR
roasting everything in sight), within such a nearly zero atmospheric
density means having insignificant if any attinuation from all of that
surrounding gauntlet of primary and secondary/recoil radiation, not to
mention the lack of moderating the velocity of incoming physical
debris that's arriving from all directions, that's only speeding up
prior to whatever near-miss or likely impact.
Too bad that our NASA team of supposed wizards without their original
semitic Third Reich team can't even manage to establish a station-
keeping platform of science instruments, as interactively halo orbited
within the moon's L1 (robotic Clarke Station), however it is most
likely that Japan, China or India should not have such difficulties.
Of course, the most educated of Americans don't even know of what or
where the moon's L1 is, much less having any clue as to it's
technological value as a space depot/gateway in addition to the
absolutely terrific science improvements on behalf of Earth and moon
planetology, and that's not to mention those improved detections,
trackings and best possible management of NEOs as potential Earth
killers.
--
Brad Guth
BradGuth
In response to:
Poster: SPACEINVADOR
Subject: Re: Japan's Lunar Probe
http://uplink.space.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=askastronomer&Number=829401&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=0
"There just isn't much reward when it comes to pictures from space,
IMO. We can take great photographs from earth of space/stars, but we
can't get those same quality or even better pictures from space?...
I'm not talking about pictures from telescopes."
"Ok, in the Lunar Probe pictures we can see the earth just as if it
were being viewed at night, even though it is day on that spot of the
moon. Are cameras like the human eyes? Does the pupil not dilate due
to the brightness reflected off the surface of the moon? I think not.
If I was on the moon where the Lunar Probe is and I was looking up
into the "blackness" of space and my eyes weren't affected from the
reflected light of the moon's surface, shouldn't I be able to see
something up there in space? Come on."
-
There are CCDs of 100+ fold better DR than film.
16 db of 131,057:1 or even 20db of 1,048,576:1 are technically doable
within scientific configured cameras, or at the very least sliding
their 12 bit DR of 4,096:1 towards utilizing either extreme of the
20+db CCD potential has been doable for quite some time. Instead we
the public usually get to see all of 4, 5 or possibly as good as 6 db
worth, so as to easily exclude all but the brightest of items that'll
fall within that intentionally limited DR, and their version of robo
PhotoShop is what easily takes care of whatever else needs to get
excluded.
Basically, it's a faith-based kind of loaded card game they're
playing, and the stack of cards is always loaded in favor of the
house.
However, I honestly do not expect JAXA or especially of China to play
along with NASA's tired old game plan of intentionally excluding such
other worthy items from future images of our physically dark as coal
moon.
-- Brad Guth
-
Well lo and behold, it didn't take long for those pesky brown-nosed
rusemaster clowns of NASA's uplink.space.com borg like minion
collective, and of their semitic Third Reich to switch right back into
full butt-covering damage control action. (it's what such semites as
pretend atheists do best)
I expect they'll be excluding or otherwise banishing everything I've
had to say, just as they did before. Apparently sharing the whole
truth and nothing but the truth is simply against uplink.space.com
policy.
-
uplink.space.com goes directly into its usual book burning failsafe
mode:
"We cannot proceed."
"We encountered a problem. The reason reported was:"
"You have been banned from making any new posts or sending private
messages. The reason for this ban is: Returned banned member bradguth"
Gee Whiz folks, what another unexpected surprise.
BradGuth
I don't see how that applies, especially with the largest nation of
highly educated folks on Earth that's advancing at roughly 10 fold of
anything we've got cooking, is now doing that first of many moon
related missions that'll only go towards giving them a whole lot
better shot at the commercial aspects of our moon.
What if China set up the first of their moon L1 platforms of science
instruments, whereas I suppose our NASA and of their brown-nosed
internet forum minions (much like yourself) would not bother to cover
that one either.
You know damn good and well that our mostly semitic orchestrated NASA
is holding back, hoping that something goes terribly wrong with either
of Japan's or China's lunar mapping missions, before they manage to
accomplish those one meter or better resolution images of our supposed
Apollo landing sites.
- Brad Guth
Stephen Malbon
> accomplish those one meter or better resolution images of our supposed
> Apollo landing sites.
and photographed so there's no doubt at all that they're there, then
what are you going to say? Admit finally that you were wrong the whole time?
Randy Poe
Nobody's talking to you, so you have to dig up month-old messages
to respond to?
I don't have any problem believing that you don't understand why
a discussion of the coverage of unmanned missions is relevant
to your question about why there's so little coverage of this
particular unmanned mission.
I'm not quite sure why you'd admit this about yourself, though.
- Randy
BradGuth
Of course. Why the hell not?
- Brad Guth
BradGuth
>
> I don't have any problem believing that you don't understand why
> a discussion of the coverage of unmanned missions is relevant
> to your question about why there's so little coverage of this
> particular unmanned mission.
>
> I'm not quite sure why you'd admit this about yourself, though.
>
> - Randy
I have no problems with manned or unmanned missions going officially
unnoticed, especially if they were of taxed private dollars being
spent. But is that ever the case? (I don't think so)
- Brad Guth
BradGuth
Of course. Why the hell not? (unlike yourself, I don't have a fixated
LLPOF genetic DNA code to deal with)
In fact, if it's subsequently proven that those off-world laws of
physics are entirely different than terrestrial, and that the best
available evidence can always be excluded and/or banished whenever
such rocks thy infowar/infomercial spewing boat, then so be it.
I also have no significant problems with manned or unmanned missions
going officially unnoticed, especially if they were of taxed private
dollars being spent.
However, is there any chance you're suggesting that our NASA has
always been the one and only government agency that does't lie to us?
- Brad Guth
Randy Poe
Since "officially unnoticed" has absolutely nothing to do with what
I said, I think I'll go back to ignoring this thread I dropped over
a month ago.
- Randy
Borked Pseudo Mailed
> On Dec 2, 4:08 am, Stephen Malbon <smal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > of Japan's or China's lunar mapping missions, before they manage to
>> > accomplish those one meter or better resolution images of our supposed
>> > Apollo landing sites.
I thought by now the moon had been photo-mapped to a fare-thee-well. Were
the Americans and Russians so uninterested that they didn't bother mapping
the entire moon, or didn't map it to a resolution that would have shown
the LM descent stages and lunar rovers?
BradGuth
wrote:
Not all the way down to the meter by meter, of which eventually those
missions of Japan and China should get those nifty cameras right down
to accomplishing that kind of imaging resolution towards the end of
their lunar mapping task.
It should even be impossible at 10 m/pixel to entirely miss those
substantial items and of all the extensive man made terrain features
as having been modified from those NASA/Apollo missions, unless all
there is to view upon are of those one-way hard landing sites or
somewhat impact (artificial crater) associated items that survived
well enough to being imaged as of today.
After all, the contrast or highly reflective albedo worth of most any
polished aluminum or painted white item as parked upon that physically
coal like dark surface shouldn't be all that hidden.
The whole thing about the USSR/US space race was simply another
extension of our mutually perpetrated cold-war for profit and job
security. And as such it worked like a dream, didn't it.
- Brad Guth
Stephen Malbon
> physics are entirely different than terrestrial,
> However, is there any chance you're suggesting that our NASA has
> always been the one and only government agency that does't lie to us?
Your NASA, your government. Not mine in either case, I'm British.
BradGuth
> > In fact, if it's subsequently proven that those off-world laws of
> > physics are entirely different than terrestrial,
>
> They aren't.
But they'd have to be different in order for those NASA/Apollo
missions to have taken place exactly as scripted, as for otherwise
their Saturn V rocket wouldn't have been sufficient, and our
physically dark moon would have been somewhat humanly lethal, as well
as the likes of Venus could not have been so easily excluded from all
of those unfiltered and rad-hard Kodak moments.
>
> > However, is there any chance you're suggesting that our NASA has
> > always been the one and only government agency that does't lie to us?
>
> Your NASA, your government. Not mine in either case, I'm British.
Then you should know that big government seldom tells us the whole
truth and nothing but the truth unless there's simply no other viable
option, especially if there's any degree of faith-based puppeteering
going on (of which there usually is).
- Brad Guth
BradGuth
If ignoring the whole truth and nothing but the truth is what makes
you a happy camper, then so be it. Obviously your happy camper
conditional laws of physics still has our rad-hard DNA walking on that
physically dark moon as of 4 decades ago. Now that's impressive.
- Brad Guth
BradGuth
Where's all of that Usenet love and affection when you need it, along
with those supposed better ideas and honest interpretations from all
of the new and improved data about our moon that's coming in?
In other words, do tell why is our moon still so officially NASA taboo/
nondisclosure rated, and/or getting faith-based banished along with
ignoring the active geothermal planetology truths about Venus, as
being kept so unusually off-limits?
Why are the pretend atheists that are in charge of most everything
still acting as though so unusually Old Testament sequestered within
their borg like collective or killer bee swarm like mindset, in that
the mere honest thoughts or considerations of other intelligent life
as having existed off-world but also so nearby is so gosh darn faith-
based insurmountable?
China, Japan and eventually India are no longer sitting back or having
to take another NASA no for an answer, and perhaps our Barack Obama
doesn't have to keep taking no for an answer for creating a fleet of
new and improved shuttles with fully reusable LRBs that can deliver
100+ tonnes of payload into LEO/ISS space instead of having to utilize
those polluting and only semi-reusable SRBs that can't accomplish 50
tonnes, seems like the right sort of thing to be doing as a 50/50 kind
of public/private alternative to the spendy NASA way of doing things.
This following link (still under construction or perhaps getting
moderated to death by our NASA) will soon enough become the start of
good things to come out of the KAGUYA(SELENE) mission.
http://wms.selene.jaxa.jp/index_e.html
Just wait until their lunar exploration mission of mapping everything
in sight eventually works it's way down to orbiting at just 10 km
above that physically dark lunar surface, and subsequently gets those
one meter or better resolution images, plus that mission hosting loads
of nifty other gamma spectrum obtained data as to what the secondary/
recoil detecting of all those sorts of accessible raw elements which
our unusually massive and nearby moon has for us.
For some unexplained reasons, our NASA/Apollo wizards along with their
rad-hard Kodak film and unfiltered camera optics never had this
following UV-a induced violet/purple/bluish hue saturation problem.
However, notice that even with JAXA/Selene's most advanced camera CCDs
having quality coated optics including some specific bandpass lens
filtering, as to how purple/blush or even somewhat violet hue
saturated those initial full color images turned out. It's exactly
what happens without using a very good set of optically sharp spectrum
cut-off and/or narrow bandpass filters in order to exclude those
strong primary and unavoidable secondary/recoil worth of what those
raw UV-a photons create, as otherwise for those images having been so
color/hue saturation skewed as though being illuminated by way of the
raw solar energy was entirely unavoidable, though can be somewhat
PhotoShop corrected after the fact. (they obviously should have
incorporated an optical layer coating of Y-48 deep yellow or as great
as Y-52 amber for the sharp cutting off of most all that's below 500
nm, along with an HA-50 layer or element for blocking IR, or simply by
having applied a custom NBPF [ECI-1020] multi-layer coated element)
http://www.selene.jaxa.jp/en/communication/com_information_e.htm#NEW_20071116A
That other ongoing mission by China may not ever accomplish as good of
images, but of their next and the ones after that should not be the
least bit disappointing, because most of anything Japan can do, China
should be fully capable of accomplishing one better and at not 10% the
cost per deployed kg.
- Brad Guth
BradGuth
However, since my Google/NOVA Usenet account has not been allowing for
subsequent edits by way of entirely removing postigs with such errors,
I'll just have to keep adding to the stack as best I can. Sorry about
that.
So what if our moon is getting recorded as such a nifty blue?
What hurts most of all is our getting duped by the likes of Walter
Cronkite in addition to our being snookered by all of those as
supposedly having "the right stuff". Perhaps our investigative Dan
Rather can eventually help kick Walter Cronkite's butt on our behalf.
Honestly folks, with all of the new and improved science about our
moon coming in, there's yet another something of so many other issues
that just isn't sitting right with what our NASA/Apollo wizards had
been telling us, and fully supported by their army of such brown-nosed
minions that reside right here within Usenet naysay land of hosting
their government bad deed denials upon denials.
It seems their physics and subsequent published science just doesn't
add up, pretty much exactly as it never really did, nor do they even
have what it takes in the way of any human pilot fly-by-rocket flown
lander as of 40 years after the fact.
If you don't happen to know anything first hand about photography and
the well established science of optical/lens filtering, so that such
recorded spectrums of our naked moon isn't getting pushed so terribly
off-hue saturated for looking so unusually blue, that's OK because
there is more than sufficient expertise with replicated proof of
exactly what's going on.
Just because our own government has so often lied to us on a fairly
regular basis, as such doesn't represent that everything about our
faith-based puppeteered government is in the nearest space-toilet,
just most of everything associated with those Apollo missions is at
full risk of being exposed for what it really is.
Of course, all such exposed tips of these sorts of infowar icebergs
are clear indications of lots more truth to come.
- Brad Guth
On Nov 26, 8:12 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> NASA's uplink.space.com banishes the truth
>
> In response to:
> Poster: SPACEINVADOR
> Subject: Re: Japan's Lunar Probehttp://uplink.space.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=askastronomer&Num...
BradGuth
wouldn't have been hardly one constructive mention of anything on
behalf of either Japan or China accomplishing such terrific science
about our moon. Of course China needs to know certain things before
their robust and rad-hard robotics get deployed upon that physically
dark and dusty surface, or even before setting up anything as station-
keeping within the moon's L1.
- Brad Guth
On Nov 26, 8:12 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> NASA's uplink.space.com banishes the truth
>
> In response to:
> Poster: SPACEINVADOR
> Subject: Re: Japan's Lunar Probehttp://uplink.space.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=askastronomer&Num...
BradGuth
coming off our moon are so unavoidable, is of itself no good reason
for being ignored and/or having banished such new and improved science
that's now arriving from those lunar missions of the China/Chang'e and
Japan/JAXA's Selene.
Isn't there a little something about telling the truth that's good
enough for a 5th grader?
To tell the truth, with China and Japan each sharing other truths
about our unusually surface massive moon, of its physically dark
surface and cosmic accumulations of nifty substances that's in many
places worth tens of such crystal dry and downright dusty meters deep,
as well as looking so unusually but unavoidably secondary/recoil
photon bluish to those insufficiently filtered cameras, whereas it's
no wonder these Usenet rusemaster spooks and moles of what's mostly
Google/NOVA are doing all they can muster in order to banish our
contributions and otherwise trash my poor old PC.
Because Usenet is such a public accessible medium is obviously why it
has been an all out infowar, of those insider folks doing all they can
to traumatize or otherwise terminate those of us suggesting we haven't
always been told the truth, especially by way of our NASA/Apollo
wizards as supposedly having "the right stuff".
You'd think that because that unusually surface massive and nearby
moon has not always been with us, and there is some kind of other
intelligent life existing/coexisting on Venus, in that reading a few
published articles that are entirely outside of our NASA O-Ring cult
of those Old Testament scriptures might be a darn good idea.
- Brad Guth
BradGuth
MI5/CIA boss or MIB agent that's likely standing directly behind each
operator of their spendy supercomputer work stations (with a loaded
gun pointed at each of their empty heads) is not about to allow any
public Usenet chat about our unusually blue moon, or much less about
how their NASA and of those rad-hard Apollo wizards, along with all
that Semitic Third Reich kind of right stuff as having so nicely
managed to hide Venus.
JAXA / SELENE (KAGUYA)
http://www.selene.jaxa.jp/en/communication/com_information_e.htm#NEW_20071214A
Notice their intentional color removal of the moon, and of those very
same images as otherwise depicting mother Earth in full color.
Notice down the page of those other full color images of just the moon
itself along with parts of the their spacecraft as depicted in such a
nifty bluish saturation hue. Remember that Selene's quality optics
had been bandpass coated in order to cut out the vast bulk of UV and
IR to start with.
The rather impressive blue saturated hue is clearly an expected color
shift or tint, that's due to all of the raw secondary/recoil of what
most reactive items getting UV saturated should look like to such a
bandpass filtered CCD or especially to that of an unfiltered Kodak
film recorded image.
Unfortunately, their "KAGUYA Image Gallery" that's apparently forever
stuck with using the "Adobe(R) Flash Player(R)" is what seriously
sucks, as sharing far less than full resolution and otherwise running
extremely poorly on most computers w/o a super fast internet
connection and lots of extra PC memory.
The science from their "X-ray Spectrometer(XRS)" and "Gamma Ray
Spectrometer(GRS)" being equally saturated at much greater levels than
expected, as such may also have to become excluded from the public,
because of such data being so unexpectedly intense or off-scale that
an entirely new effort at obtaining such intended science about the
complex surface of our physically dark moon may have to wait for the
next available mission. Perhaps the lunar exploration efforts by
India will have adapted the necessary narrow bandpass of sufficient
optical filtering, as well as for having greater XRS/GRS scope in
order to properly deal with the unusual gamma and X-ray intensity of
what that naked and very anticathode moon actually represents.
- Brad Guth -
BradGuth
via their "X-ray Spectrometer(XRS)" and "Gamma Ray Spectrometer(GRS)"
is being kept secret?
The Moon is not actually BLUE, except to the unfiltered eye. A good
orange/amber worth of an optical spectrum filter (as added onto their
otherwise bandpass coated lens) would have permitted a somewhat more
natural color looking moon, as though viewed from Earth by using a
quality telescope that's getting extensively filtered by our polluted
atmosphere and secondly by the rather extensive 8r(8X radius) worth of
sodium atmosphere associated with that moon.
However, it looks as though we're still being lied to again and again
by NASA's rusemasters in charge of snookering humanity for all it's
worth. In other words, it seems their MI5/CIA boss or MIB agent in
charge of damage control that's likely standing directly behind each
operator of all those spendy supercomputer work stations (with a
loaded gun pointed at each of their empty heads) is not about to allow
any public Usenet chat about our physically dark and such an unusually
blue moon, or much less about how their NASA and of those rad-hard
Apollo wizards, along with all that Semitic Third Reich kind of right
stuff as having so nicely managed to always avoid those blue saturated
hues as well as their having always hidden Venus at the same time.
JAXA / SELENE (KAGUYA)
http://www.selene.jaxa.jp/en/communication/com_information_e.htm#NEW_20071214A
Notice their intentional color removal of the moon itself, and of
those very same images as otherwise depicting mother Earth in full
color. (it's quite easy to prove this being the case)
Down on the same page are those other original full color images of
mostly the moon itself along with parts of the their spacecraft as
depicted within such a nifty bluish saturation hue. Remember that
Selene's quality optics had been custom bandpass coated in order to
cut out the vast bulk of UV and IR to start with.
The rather impressive blue saturated hue or color skewed amount of
color tint is clearly that of an expected color shift or blue
saturated image result, that's unavoidably their CCD obtained result
of the raw secondary/recoil worth of what most such reactive items as
getting UV saturated should always look like to such a bandpass
filtered CCD w/o having the necessary color correction filter, as
otherwise especially blue saturated as to that of what any unfiltered
Kodak film recorded image (via NASA/Apollo) should have depicted.
Unfortunately, the JAXA "KAGUYA Image Gallery" that's apparently
forever stuck with using the "Adobe(R) Flash Player(R)" is what
seriously sucks, as sharing far less than full resolution and
otherwise running extremely poorly on most computers w/o a super fast
internet connection and lots of extra PC memory.
The science from their "X-ray Spectrometer(XRS)" and "Gamma Ray
Spectrometer(GRS)" as likely being equally saturated at much greater
levels than expected, as such may also have to become excluded from
the general public, because of such data being so unexpectedly intense
or off-scale, in that an entirely new effort at obtaining such
intended science about the complex surface of our physically dark moon
may have to wait for the next available mission. Perhaps the lunar
exploration efforts by India will have adapted the necessary narrow
bandpass of sufficient optical spectrum filtering with sufficient
color correction, as well as for their science instruments having
either greater XRS/GRS scope or much tighter resolution in order to
properly deal with the unusual gamma and X-ray intensity of what that
naked and very anticathode moon actually represents.
KAGUYA/(SELENE) HDTV/CCD imaging getting its first full solar dosage
or skewed saturation of those pesky raw secondary photons, as for
looking rather deep blue.
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/10/20071021_kaguya_e.pdf
http://www.selene.jaxa.jp/index_e.htm
http://www.kaguya.jaxa.jp/en/
Notice as to all of the unavoidable UV secondary/recoil worth of
bluish and/or extra purple/violet saturation that KAGUYA/(SELENE) HDTV
is having to deal with, even though their having incorporated a
sufficient UV spectrum cut-off filter and currently using not more
than a few percent worth of their HDTV dynamic range(DR), even so
having no problems with recording the physically dark moon along with
Earth that's not even half the albedo worth of Venus which has greater
than 2.6 kw/m2 to work with. Far better images are soon enough going
to be accomplished, especially with those other onboard CCD
instruments that'll far exceed what most of our previous science about
our extremely unusual moon had to say.
- Brad Guth -
BradGuth
Is anything JAXA that pertains to our physically dark blue moon still
sequestered as taboo/nondisclosure rated? (apparently so)
Is the blue moon as imaged by China not actually out moon, at least
according to all that's NASA/Apollo would like to think? (apparently
so)
How about the lunar orbital mission as planned by India. Is that one
also going to get officially uplink.space.com and otherwise Usenet
banished because of their science being similar to that of Japan and
China? (apparently)
- Brad Guth
BradGuth
Perhaps everything of Japan and China that's getting such new and
improved science data about our unusually massive and nearby moon is
having to be mainstream taboo/nondisclosure rated, all because it's
too freaking honest and clearly not sufficiently Semitic to suit those
in charge of our private parts.
As having said this so often before; Our blue moon as having been
recently color CCD imaged with quality bandpass coated optics is in
fact looking rather secondary/recoil photon bluish, pretty much as it
should appear to those insufficiently filtered cameras.
BTW, our moon's albedo on average of 0.11 is nearly as physically dark
as an open pit coal mine. Go figure upon which other nearly white
guano island sort of moon as having been xenon arc lamp spectrum
illuminated that our rad-hard Apollo wizards landed upon, instead of
the physically dark and unavoidably reactive basalt naked surface of
such iron, cobalt, sodium and titanium worth of our crystal dry and
extremely dusty moon that's upon average so physically darker than
basalt, and as such representing that unavoidably gamma and X-ray
anticathode nasty environment in addition to all of its naked basalt
surface as being so unavoidably electrostatic charged.
- Brad Guth
BradGuth
Just because their nicely bandpass filtered images of our moon keep
turning out as for looking so gosh darn physically dark and as though
rather dusty and bluish, is not a very good reason for those new and
improved images of such good resolution getting so mainstream excluded
or otherwise banished. At least that's what I think.
- Brad Guth
BradGuth
Selene is still taboo/nondisclosure rated, and it's still looking
every bit as physically dark and with that pesky bluish hue in spite
of those quality bandpass optical coatings.
- Brad Guth
BradGuth
BTW, why exactly is our resident spook/mole "MI5 Persecution" getting
so gosh darn upset about folks sharing the truth?
- Brad Guth
BradGuth
Apparently those terrific 3D perspective images of 10 raw meters per
pixel that so far can't muster up one large item worth of anything
NASA/Apollo is getting downright testy. Perhaps our NASA rusemasters
will have to nuke Japan once again for good measure, either that or
getting those Boeing ABLs taking a few DoD practice IR laser cannon
shots at JAXA's Selene, much like DoD allowed the use of our shuttle
Columbia as a nifty remote thermal energy sensing target.
- Brad Guth
BradGuth
nondisclosure rated?
Is the JAXA Selene mission broken, or just getting nailed by something
unofficially NASA?
Apparently whatever I happen think doesn't matter, because what I
think is that we've been rather terribly snookered and dumbfounded to
death by those of our very own kind, as by those supposedly having
"the right stuff", whereas what you silly folks of Usenet fuckology
think as representing the official infomercial spewing clowns and
rusemasters of your Old Testament thumping Third Reich, is apparently
all that matters.
You'd think before our going off into the wild black yonder, that
perhaps it would be a good idea as to accomplish our extremely massive
and nearby moon, or at least park a little something of a fuel cache
or Boeing like oasis of fuel(s) within the moon's L1.
BTW, where's that JAXA Selene pixel truth and nothing but the truth to
behold? (hiding like Muslim WMD or like Venus always having kept
itself out of sight?)
Even if it's looking a touch worthy of all that nifty hue saturated as
a secondary/recoil blue (exactly as it should), and otherwise for
seeing our "right stuff" that's supposedly upon that physically dark
as an open pit coal mine of a dusty surface, whereas those highly
reflective and fairly large items of our NASA Apollo moon landings
should have been rather easily spotted against that physically dark
surface, not to mention the acre or more of their terribly disrupted
lunar surface standing out as an artificial sore thumb, and that's
even though the 10 meter resolution can't offer specific item or
terrain detail simply isn't the problem.
BTW No.2, I can't but help see the usual gauntlet of Usenet spermware/
fuckware arriving, as though the mostly Jewish troops of NASA's borg
army of brown-nosed clowns and minions are doing their job of tossing
flak, covering thy infowar spewing butts and otherwise mustering up as
much other damage control as possible, pretty much the same as they
provided on behalf of and as to what their old puppet warlord Hitler
used to do (of course these days it's all about doing whatever GW Bush
wants).
- Brad Guth
BradGuth
worth interpreting as NASA/Apollo worthy.
It must be all of that fairly large and highly reflective stuff is
covered up with the moon's physically dark and electrostatic charged
dust, or simply too deeply situated in its crater to otherwise being
seen by such quality optics and of sufficient resolution.
- Brad Guth
BradGuth
- Brad Guth
BradGuth
nifty 3D and 10 meter resolution images of our NASA/Apollo landing
sites, and yet lo and behold there's still not one viable pixel worth
of anything bright and shiny to behold, which is rather odd against
that otherwise physically dark moon. Perhaps publishing such images
lacking in anything NASA/Apollo or of anything of a substantial USSR
robotic nature would be best avoided. Eventually as the Selene
mission closes out, it'll get down to cruising at just 10 km and
thereby capable of delivering those one meter per pixel resolutions,
which should at least show us the crater like remains of whatever had
managed to impact or at best hard-land upon our moon.
Notice all of the topic/author banishment except for those pesky MI5/
CIA spooks, moles and official mainstream rusemasters doing all they
can muster in order to damage and/or to traumatize those of us sharing
in the best available truths. Of course that is faith-based business
as per Skull and Bones usual, as well as why their having created 9/11
and we are at war, headed towards WWIII because of their global fossil
fuel domination plan (especially that part about or taking of or
elimination of Muslim oil) hasn't been going as well as hoped.
Too bad we can't even focus upon getting POOF City established at
Venus L2, much less of any Clarke Station or LSE-CM/ISS situated
within our Moon's L1. Perhaps China and India will help us out of
this mess as having been created by those Old Testament thumping
puppeteers in charge of our resident LLPOF warlord(GW Bush).
At least as far as we know, Venus isn't Islamic/Muslim populated, but
of course that notion could change if we actually took a closer look-
see, much the same as those ETs with their extremely big and flashy
UFOs are looking at us, except for merely a good laugh (must be why
Texas is getting the most recent ET/UFO attention, because Texas is
funny).
- Brad Guth
On Jan 9, 11:14 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
BradGuth
Why not share those nearly 3D images of 10 meter resolution?
Is JAXA and NASA/Apollo sleeping in the same bed?
- Brad Guth
On Jan 9, 11:14 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
BradGuth
. - Brad Guth
On Jan 9, 11:14 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
BradGuth
CNSA's Chang'e-1 and JAXA's Selene, not to mention those two extremes
of thermal trauma. Otherwise we should have been given a look-see at
hundreds if not thousands of quality images by now.
- Brad Guth
On Jan 9, 11:14 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
BradGuth
mainstream status quo. No wonder JAXA and CNSA are each hiding their
finding of not obtaining those pixels of anything NASA/Apollo that
adds up to what we've been previously informed of.
It sort of makes Japan and China look like absolute fools that have
been so easily snookered and dumbfounded past the point of no return,
because each of those governments had published countless thousands of
documents, science journals and educational textbooks as having gone
along with our NASA/Apollo ride of the cold-war century.
I suppose, if for decades I'd officially published what is now proven
as untrue, that I too would be into doing some serious internal damage
control before releasing anything as truth worthy as what those new
and greatly improved cameras have been capable of recording at
sufficient resolution, that's only going to become better as those two
missions get towards the end of their life.
What can I or many others say, besides the old "we told you so", with
some of that truth telling being done from the very get go as of four
decades ago. Of course, up until 8+ years ago, I too was 100%
snookered and/or dumbfounded into believing whatever our NASA/Apollo
wizards had been telling us.
. - Brad Guth
BradGuth
NASA/Apollo.
Has the minerology of our moon actually changed that much?
. - Brad Guth
On Jan 9, 11:14 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
BradGuth
Even JAXA Selene is only sharing those carefully modified pictures,
not even sharing any more of those natural color or 10 meter
resolution images, much less of any FOVs that could possibly contain
those pixels of our NASA/Apollo right stuff.
I wonder how much of our loot it took to buy off JAXA/KAGUYA (aka
Selene).
. - Brad Guth
On Jan 9, 11:14 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For what reason(s) is theJAXASelene mission so unusually taboo/
> nondisclosure rated?
>
> Is theJAXASelene mission broken, or just getting nailed by something
> unofficially NASA?
>
> Apparently whatever I happen think doesn't matter, because what I
> think is that we've been rather terribly snookered and dumbfounded to
> death by those of our very own kind, as by those supposedly having
> "the right stuff", whereas what you silly folks of Usenet fuckology
> think as representing the official infomercial spewing clowns and
> rusemasters of your Old Testament thumping Third Reich, is apparently
> all that matters.
>
> You'd think before our going off into the wild black yonder, that
> perhaps it would be a good idea as to accomplish our extremely massive
> and nearby moon, or at least park a little something of a fuel cache
> or Boeing like oasis of fuel(s) within the moon's L1.
>
> BTW, where's thatJAXASelene pixel truth and nothing but the truth to
BradGuth
bluish looking, nothing at all as depicted by our NASA/Apollo wizards.
What a joke, as yet another pathetic ongoing ruse that's under the
Semitic/Zionist thumb, of keeping our dumb and dumber (aka uneducated)
public and those of our media as fully snookered and dumbfounded past
the point of no return.
JAXA/Selene is only sharing those carefully modified pictures, not
even sharing any more of those natural color or of those nifty 10
meter resolution images, much less of any FOVs that could possibly
contain those pixels of our NASA/Apollo right stuff" that should be
gleaming on that physically dark as coal surface of our moon. At
least the images thus far, as having Earth within the same FOV, are of
those giving us a true B&W albedo rendition of how extremely coal like
dark and dusty our moon actually is.
I wonder how much of our loot it took of our NASA black ops in order
to buy off the JAXA/KAGUYA (aka Selene) team, so that few if any
images are made public, and then so obviously as having been
selectively color/hue and saturation modified to suit. It's as though
the puppeteers of our mutually perpetrated cold war(s) are still fully
in charge of our private parts and our minds, including those brain-
washed and fully minionised minds of Japan.
Of course the China probe isn't sharing all that much either, or
nearly close enough to worry about, although at least it's secondary/
recoil color saturation of our bluish looking moon is much closer to
what an unfiltered Kodak moment should have depicted.
Perhaps an independent public media type of science publication can
manage to publish the revised truth(s) about our physically dark
moon. After all, there's always a first time for everything.
. - Brad Guth
BradGuth
words of wisdom and of other interpretations, as from many honest
folks having a little something important to share and share alike?
. - Brad Guth
BradGuth
Our naked moon is offering a mineral and cosmic rich environment, of
being extensively reactive/anticathode worthy, of basalt and otherwise
deposit dark as coal, as well as crystal dry and unavoidably
electrostatic dusty, and by each and every secondary/recoil
illuminated day it's somewhat unavoidably UV black-light bluish
looking, nothing at all as depicted and authored by all the supposed
"right stuff" of our mostly old fart and extensively cloak and dagger
NASA/Apollo wizards, as well as for their body language telling us the
actual truth, of which this LLPOF body language has nothing to do what
they've been getting away with telling us and having mainstream
published as though it's the words and Kodak moments of God.
What a joke, as yet another pathetic ongoing ruse that's clearly under
the Semitic/Zionist cold war thumb, of keeping our dumb and dumber
(aka uneducated) public and those of our brown-nosed media as fully
snookered and dumbfounded past the point of no return. Apparently
those uneducated Japanese folks are none better off, as officially
snookered and dumbfounded past the point of no return.
Thus far, JAXA/Selene has only been sharing those carefully modified
pictures, not even sharing any more of those natural color or of their
nifty 10 meter resolution images, much less of any FOVs that could
possibly contain those pixels of our fairly substantial NASA/Apollo
"right stuff" that by rights should be gleaming on that physically
dark as coal surface of our moon. At least the images thus far, as
having Earth within the same FOV, are of those giving us a true B&W
albedo rendition of how extremely coal like dark and dusty our moon
actually is, with everything else simply blacked out so that the true
DR of there quality CCD and bandpass filtered imaging isn't going to
offer us any more than absolutely necessary.
I wonder how much of our hard earned loot it took of our NASA black
ops in order to buy off the JAXA/KAGUYA (aka Selene) team, so that few
if any other embarrassing images are made public, and then so
obviously as having been selectively color/hue and saturation modified
to suit. It's as though the puppeteers of our mutually perpetrated
cold war(s) are still fully in charge of our private parts and our
minds, including those brain-washed and fully minionised minds of
Japan.
Of course the more distant China probe isn't as capable of sharing all
that much of anything NASA/Apollo like either, nor is it nearly close
enough to worry about ever having a pixel worth of anything bright and
shiny as situated on that dark surface, although at least it's natural
color/hue of the secondary/recoil color saturation of our bluish
looking moon is much closer to what an unfiltered Kodak moment should
have depicted.
Perhaps there's an independent public media type of a respected
science publication that can manage to publish the revised truth(s)
about our physically dark moon. After all, there's always a first
time for everything.
. - Brad Guth
On Jan 9, 11:14 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
Art Deco
Poor Brad, no one pays any attention to his kook screeds.
[sci.* groups dropped]
--
Supreme Leader of the Brainwashed Followers of Art Deco
BradGuth
expertise or contribute whatever honest questions, as to why JAXA/
Selene is getting so badly nailed to death by our NASA.
. - Brad Guth
Art Deco
>Rabbi Art Deco doesn't count, but others might like to offer their
>expertise or contribute whatever honest questions, as to why JAXA/
>Selene is getting so badly nailed to death by our NASA.
>. - Brad Guth
>
>
>On Feb 17, 6:33 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Is Japan still our minion nation of broken and servitude souls?
>>
>> Our naked moon is offering a mineral and cosmic rich environment, of
>>
>> On Jan 9, 11:14 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > For what reason(s) is the JAXA Selene mission so unusually taboo/
Hi, Brad! Still so lonely you have to reply to yourself?
BradGuth
Apparently Japan is deathly afraid to update anything of their mission
without first getting the NASA/Apollo stamp of approval.
It seems our NASA/Apollo spooks managed to shut Japan down. I didn't
realize JAXA was such a total wuss of a brown-nosed minion to that of
our NASA. Of course, our MI5/CIA (aka MIB) have every good reason to
work on behalf of keeping our mutually perpetrated cold-war lids on
tight, including those USSR/Russian lids.
With the JAXA Selene's 10 meter/pixel resolution, that's more than
good enough for having detected those various Apollo landings and
associated impact sites. Oddly, thus far there is still not one
worthy pixel that even remotely looks as though having anything bright
and shiny within, or of any surface as having been disturbed by way of
our Apollo technology.
There's so much wrong with this science blockage that it absolutely
reeks of our Skull and Bones MIB intervention. Any media worth half
its salt shouldn't have any problems seeing this in the cloak and
dagger light of mainstream damage control that it is.
. - Brad Guth
On Feb 17, 6:33 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
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for us.
JAXA's KAGUYA (SELENE), goes all the way down for the count, of not
hardly sharing a stitch of good or bad news for a month of having
contributed essentially nothing from those terrific images and
multiple other ongoing science about our physically dark and naked
moon, seems quite odd. Perhaps it's the highly electrostatic charged
lunar sodium atmosphere as having been deposited and thus collected
upon their CCD optics, or possibly the secondary/recoil of gamma and X-
rays has been taking its toll.
Apparently Japan's science of high definition moon surface mapping and
much greater mineralogy detail by way of the secondary/recoil
radiation of gamma and hard-X-rays has gotten deathly afraid to update
and share anything of their mission, without first getting the NASA/
Apollo stamp of approval. It seems more of what our moon actually
represents simply isn't adding up to what our NASA/Apollo rusemasters
had published and hyped to death.
It seems our NASA/Apollo spooks have managed to shut Japan down. I
didn't realize JAXA was such a total collective wuss of such brown-
nosed minions to that of our NASA. Of course, our MI5/CIA (aka MIB)
have every other good reasons to work their magic on behalf of keeping
our mutually perpetrated cold-war lids on tight, including of those
USSR/Russian lids.
With the JAXA Selene's 10 meter/pixel resolution (that's only going to
get a whole lot better as their mission orbital status decays), that's
more than good enough as is for having detected those various Apollo
landings and associated impact sites. Oddly, thus far there is still
not one worthy pixel that even remotely looks as though having
anything bright and shiny within, or of depicting any slightly dusty
surface as having been physically disturbed by way of our extensive
Apollo technology.
There's so much wrong with this form of science moderation/blockage
that it absolutely reeks of our Skull and Bones MIB intervention.
Most any public media worth half its investigative salt shouldn't have
any problems seeing this one in the cloak and dagger light of
mainstream damage control that it is.
Perhaps China's ongoing CNSA lunar mission "Chang'e No.1" will have to
move in for the kill, and their next mission for taking our Google/
NOVA X-Prize because, at least they seem to have "the right stuff"
without having to continually lie their butts off.
. - Brad Guth
BradGuth
A somewhat better JAXA/Selene HDTV image file that doesn't seem nearly
as doctored as those before, except for the unusual lack of dynamic
range and poor color saturation (especially of the naked moon surface
as looking so unusually monochrome)
http://wms.selene.jaxa.jp/data/en/hdtv/000/hdtv_000_6_l.jpg
Cranking up those color saturations and of merely replacing the color
black with a 10% lighter version of dark gray is what allows us to see
the radiation belt or sphere of whatever's surrounding Earth, and for
some odd reason makes our physically dark moon look as though
greenish. Too bad we're still not being given any look-see at those
original HDTV color images as is. Apparently, of anything JAXA/Selene
is either taboo or having become nondisclosure rated, so that our NASA/
Apollo rusemasters can keep those lids on tight, because otherwise a
10 meter/pixel resolution image is entirely capable of depicting some
of our large as well as bright and shiny Apollo remainders.
BTW, it's interesting to note how the Google 'search for' or of their
'search groups' is all screwed up again, such as a 'search groups' for
"brad guth" and then apply their 'sort by date' keeps turning up this
old topic of "Query for Brad Guth", as though it was of the most
recent of contributions as having incorporated my name.
. - Brad Guth
On Jan 9, 11:14 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
BradGuth
Mar 6, 2008
"KAGUYA Image Gallery" The HDTV image of Apollo 17 landing site taken
in last Nov. of 2007
http://wms.selene.jaxa.jp/index_e.html
Good luck seeing any pixel the least bit NASA/Apollo bright and shiny
upon that nearly coal dark moon. Notice how a given FOV including
Earth is in sufficient color along with the moon's color saturation as
having been limited to 10% if not 5%, or as in many of their published
images as having been entirely turned off, even after pushing their
wussy color saturation and increasing the contrast of that moon
remains as though without mineral color or even as otherwise
unavoidably secondary/recoil bluish as obtained on those initial HDTV
images is oddly no longer the case.
For some odd reason, JAXA has become deathly afraid to honestly share
any of those HDTV full color spectrum of maximum colour saturation or
RGB dynamic range (DR/contrast) images, and even as having been
extensively limiting as to those terrific telephoto monochrome views
of what's worth 10 meters/pixel resolution have been excluded from
public view (especially excluding as to any of those supposed NASA/
Apollo landing sites).
. - Brad Guth
Apparently I've been using up far more than my fair share of this
Google/NOVA Usenet bandwidth, as having recently posted all of one new
topic and replied to a couple of others has my account down to its
knees or getting locked down, along with the usual gauntlet of my
having been getting those pesky multiple errors while trying to post
replies, receiving the final kill message of "Your account or Internet
address has exceeded our posting limit at this time, please try again
later." Perhaps this has something to do with my 7-day activity of
getting nearly 5000 views of my messages (nearly 700 per day) must be
why I've been so often cut off. There's also so many of those cookie
spermware/fuckware (aka spyware) files that my PC and ISP connection
into the Usenet is nearly terminal before I start.
. - BG
On Mar 1, 4:50 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is Google Usenet Groups having another bad archive/server day?
>
> A somewhat betterJAXA/Selene HDTV image file that doesn't seem nearly
> as doctored as those before, except for the unusual lack of dynamic
> range and poor color saturation (especially of the nakedmoonsurface
> as looking so unusually monochrome)
> http://wms.selene.jaxa.jp/data/en/hdtv/000/hdtv_000_6_l.jpg
>
> Cranking up those color saturations and of merely replacing the color
> black with a 10% lighter version of dark gray is what allows us to see
> the radiation belt or sphere of whatever's surrounding Earth, and for
> some odd reason makes our physically darkmoonlook as though
> greenish. Too bad we're still not being given any look-see at those
> original HDTV color images as is. Apparently, of anythingJAXA/Selene
> is either taboo or having become nondisclosure rated, so that our NASA/
> Apollo rusemasters can keep those lids on tight, because otherwise a
> 10 meter/pixel resolution image is entirely capable of depicting some
> of our large as well as bright and shiny Apollo remainders.
>
> BTW, it's interesting to note how the Google 'search for' or of their
> 'search groups' is all screwed up again, such as a 'search groups' for
> "brad guth" and then apply their 'sort by date' keeps turning up this
> old topic of "Query for Brad Guth", as though it was of the most
> recent of contributions as having incorporated my name.
> . - Brad Guth
>
> On Jan 9, 11:14 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > For what reason(s) is theJAXASelene mission so unusually taboo/
> > nondisclosure rated?
>
> > Is theJAXASelene mission broken, or just getting nailed by something
> > unofficially NASA?
>
> > Apparently whatever I happen think doesn't matter, because what I
> > think is that we've been rather terribly snookered and dumbfounded to
> > death by those of our very own kind, as by those supposedly having
> > "the right stuff", whereas what you silly folks of Usenet fuckology
> > think as representing the official infomercial spewing clowns and
> > rusemasters of your Old Testament thumping Third Reich, is apparently
> > all that matters.
>
> > You'd think before our going off into the wild black yonder, that
> > perhaps it would be a good idea as to accomplish our extremely massive
> > and nearbymoon, or at least park a little something of a fuel cache
> > or Boeing like oasis of fuel(s) within themoon'sL1.
>
> > BTW, where's thatJAXASelene pixel truth and nothing but the truth to
BradGuth
willing to exclude whatever evidence that might not quite agree with
our NASA/Apollo ruse, then perhaps China will give us a break, if not
a "Moon Fart".
How the Moon Sheds Its Skin (aka Moon Farts)
2006-11-09 15:02:18 NewScientist.com
http://english.cri.cn/2906/2006/11/09/2...@160841.htm
"Blasts of gas from deep beneath the lunar surface are giving the Moon
a surprisingly fresh-faced look, suggests a new study. If they are,
our picture of the Moon's geological past will have to change just as
dramatically."
Eventually China's moon research/mapping mission is going in for the
kill, meaning they'll orbit as close as they dare in order to get
those telephoto close look-sees at our Apollo landing sites. Of
course the JAXA/Selene mission already has accomplished that task in
sufficient resolution, but there's oddly nothing to show except a
physically dark and dusty surface as having those somewhat newish
impact craters.
. - Brad Guth
On Mar 1, 4:50 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
BradGuth
Exploration" for the better, as based upon forever sustaining our lies
of the past, present and future is going to be one hell of a neat
trick.
If Japan's JAXA Selene/KAGUYA mission is intent upon playing as though
dumb and dumber, as well as willing to officially purger themselves by
way of excluding whatever evidence that might not quite agree with our
NASA/Apollo ruse, then perhaps China will have to give us an honest
break, if not a "Moon Fart".
How the Moon Sheds Its Skin (aka Moon Farts)
2006-11-09 15:02:18 NewScientist.com
http://english.cri.cn/2906/2006/11/09/2...@160841.htm
"Blasts of gas from deep beneath the lunar surface are giving the Moon
a surprisingly fresh-faced look, suggests a new study. If they are,
our picture of the Moon's geological past will have to change just as
dramatically."
Eventually China's moon research/mapping mission is going in for the
kill, meaning they'll orbit as close as they dare in order to get
those telephoto close look-sees at our Apollo landing sites. Of
course the JAXA/Selene mission already has accomplished that task in
sufficient resolution, but there's oddly nothing to show except a
physically dark and dusty surface as having those somewhat newish
impact craters.
Perhaps the better JAXA Selene/KAGUYA science of -350 to +450 mgal
worth of those significant lunar mascon issues may become yet another
rusty nail in our NASA/Apollo coffin, along with getting nailed by the
sodium atmospheric saturation and gamma that pretty much went entirely
unnoticed by each and everyone of our folks as supposedly having "the
right stuff".
. - Brad Guth
BradGuth
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.space.policy/browse_frm/thread/57e2506d6be80481/804809f4ccc1d824?hl=en#804809f4ccc1d824
http://www.dvnphoto.com/downloads
I must say that DVN looks perfectly terrific, much like PhotoCleaner
that you can purchase for roughly $25.
Only problem with DVN, there is no such thing as any "safe and secure
online account", but otherwise I'd gladly pay the 25 cents per
processed image. A free download copy of PhotoCleaner is actually
good enough, or PhotoZoom is even better for a few extra bucks, as
either of those does every bit as good if not better enlargements than
a spendy version of Adobe PhotoShop.
My goodness, seems folks here within this Usenet Naysay Ville, of
their anti-think-tank mindset of denial, are deathly afraid of any
sort of photo enhancement software.
In addition to their continually avoiding anything about the planet
Venus, it seems NASA will do whatever it takes for keeping China from
looking too closely at our supposed Apollo landing sites. They've
already got Japan's JAXA Selene mission nailed to the cross, and an
extra firm grip of their private parts just in case.
The Apollo moon hoax is about as good as our government and of its
faith-based puppeteering gets, next to those testy Zionists as having
those Romans given all the credit for their actions, as having
supposedly put Jesus Christ on a stick without a lick of any faith-
based instructions or lack of intervention.
Try to remember what they(MI5/CIA and brown-nosed company) did and/or
knowingly allowed to happen to JFK, and to think all he ever wanted to
accomplish was to put a reasonable stop to our government interactions
with those many secret cults (including our private Federal Reserve),
and to otherwise pull the NASA/Apollo cold-war plug before it was too
late.
. - Brad Guth
BradGuth
stuff is getting robo-purged and/or excluded from these Google/NOVA
Usenet archives. Otherwise it's porn and smut related topics posted
in order to divert the public and of their media away from noticing
other possible topics as having used those same pesky key words of
NASA/Apollo/moon/landing/hoax incorporated into their message, whereas
obviously this form of information banishment (aka book burning) being
an orchestrated Usenet damage control effort on behalf of covering
NASA's butt. Now all they have to do is get rid of myself and a few
others.
It's almost too funny, to imagine that trashing 700 of those big boxes
that were chuck full of Apollo mission critical and scientific data
wasn't quit good enough.
I wonder what exactly they're so gosh darn deathly afraid of, besides
their own shadows or of those pesky MIB?
. - Brad Guth
On Mar 1, 4:50 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
BradGuth
than anything NASA/Apollo) and otherwise perfectly fine expertise of
the JAXA/Selene mission is still officially sequestered, as though
taboo/nondisclosure within one of our NASA space toilets, perhaps
parked right next to those 700 missing boxes of their Apollo hoax
missions and of all those pesky Muslim WMD.
In addition to what I've discovered, and my having been trying within
my best dyslexic encrypted ways to share the new and improved science
about Venus and our moon for the past 8+ years and counting, it seems
there's lots more to behold about good old Earth that's worth our
knowing and sharing, such as the many interesting discoveries and
subsequent topics within the following link:
www.beforeus.com
Other than my having deductively interpreted via observationology as
to what looks so perfectly intelligent/artificial of the Venus tarmac,
township/community of large structures, plus the surrounding
infrastructure and of that nearby bridge as looking so gosh darn
rational, I can't be absolutely certain about such other intelligent
life still existing/coexisting on Venus. However, at least the
regular laws of physics and of the best available science can't
possibly exclude such, because even us frail humans along with a
sufficient degree of applied technology could make a go of it,
especially as for representing ETs capable of getting ourselves to/
from Venus would in of itself offer more than sufficient technological
expertise for safely accommodating an extended stay in spite of all
that geothermally forced environment of Venus being so geologically
newish, CO2/S8 vapor hot and otherwise downright nasty from the bottom
up, and otherwise not as we've been told as being entirely greenhouse
roasted from the top down.
. - Brad Guth
On Mar 1, 4:50 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
BradGuth
missions" / by J Waggoner
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.space.history/browse_frm/thread/486fa248b4ef0516/981d45e648dbdee5?hl=en#981d45e648dbdee5
Why only soon, and not otherwise as of decades ago, or at least as of
JAXA Selene as having more than sufficient resolution for having to
share a few of those 10 meter resolution pixels as getting extra
illuminated by way of our bright and shiny Apollo stuff situated upon
that physically dark as coal moon?
According to our very own DoD and of their MI5/CIA expertise, of spy
satellite imaging offering a few inches or as good as 100 mm worth of
resolution had been a done deal as of the cold-war, and even of
somewhat good enough imaging prior to anything Apollo, and that was of
Earth as recorded through a highly optical distorting atmosphere, as
well as from roughly better than twice the altitude of the JAXA Selene
mission that's oddly been NASA sequestered as need-to-know or perhaps
entirely nondisclosure rated.
. - Brad Guth
On Mar 1, 4:50 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
BradGuth
That's odd, still nothing to report from the crack JAXA/Selene
(detailed moon mapping plus full HDTV color imaging) mission. Perhaps
their mission got nailed by those ETs hiding on the back side of our
moon.
. - Brad Guth
BradGuth
With no child left behind, how can the public be so thoroughly
snookered and dumbfounded past the point of no return?
Why has the JAXA/Selene mission gotten so taboo/nondisclosure rated?
. - Brad Guth
BradGuth
If our moon is officially taboo/nondisclosure, why isn't Mars?
Mars at best is a seriously cold energy pit or sinkhole of a mostly
frozen to death and nearly moon like vacuum of an old dead planet w/o
magnetosphere, as well as offering hardly a spare geothermal BTU or
accessible joule worth of core heat, as otherwise barely survivable by
way of whatever technology and energy is brought along for the ride
that's capable of keeping us frail humans alive until there's simply
not enough undamaged DNA to go around. Other than all of that, a to/
from mars mission involving humans is within the realm of running up a
tab of one trillion+ dollars, of which our global dollar is not worth
half of what it was as of just a few years ago, much less do we have
the revenue to even replace the current inflated cost of living.
On the other hand, compared to this following terrestrial energy
alternative that works it's environmentally friendly form of clean/
renewable worth of low energy density footprint magic (on average
offering less than 0.5w/m2), of giving us its solar thermal and
atmospheric pressure differential derived energy by way of each sunny
day, and as such capable of offering a clean 200 MW worth of peak
energy output, whereas at best isn't hardly worth 0.1% of what an
entirely similar vertical stack or vertical atmospheric wind and
pressure differential generating tower could produce on Venus, except
continuously by day or night rather than peak limited as of high noon
on Earth.
World's first 200MW solar thermal power station using innovative Solar
Tower technology
http://www.enviromission.com.au/project/project.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Solar_updraft_tower.svg
This technology of basic applied physics in utilizing a one km tower
wind-tunnel of a 130~150 meter base footprint diameter (possibly as
little as 100 meters of base diameter should actually do the trick)
that's all being solar-thermal driven or pumped by a vast surrounding
artificial greenhouse. If this same vertical offset were instead
getting applied on Venus, except without ever having any need of
creating all of that terrific glassed-in surrounding surface area of
an artificial greenhouse, as otherwise similar with only a few
appropriate dynamic chimney/stack modifications to this vertical wind-
tunnel, as such becomes worthy of delivering a continuous (day or
night) 200GW, especially capable if it's base were situated over the
top of any given S8/CO2 geothermal vent (of which Venus has lots of
those to spare).
So, I'm still asking of folks supposedly all-knowing, as well as of
those others in charge of our private parts and most of our hard
earned loot (aka Federal Reserve), as to how many spare/surplus
gigaWatts or if need be teraWatts of such easily obtained local energy
that's perfectly clean and 100% renewable would they like to have at
their Venus outpost disposal, or otherwise need on behalf of
accommodating those already smart ETs, or even on behalf of us
dumbfounded humans for having to survive upon Venus?
Try to remember the basics of having sufficient local or imported
energy, is where almost anything becomes technically doable (meaning
survivable), regardless of how wet, dry, frozen cold, toasty hot or
toxic it is outside. Once equalized, a great deal of surrounding
pressure isn't a insurmountable biological factor, although a near
vacuum as upon Mars is never going to become all that humanly
survivable without a pressure suit, and you can pretty much forget
ever getting adjusted to surviving butt naked within any full vacuum,
even if being given 100% O2 to breath isn't going to hardly matter if
your DNA and complex bodily functions can't stay glued together, not
to mention the raw exposure to cosmic and local gamma and the
unavoidable secondary/recoil saturation of X-rays that'll come along
with such places of deficient atmosphere, as well as much worse yet if
there's no protective magnetosphere.
. - Brad Guth
BradGuth
In spite of all the mainstream status quo flak, as more of their same
old cover-thy-butt damage control, here's more of my same old dyslexic
encrypted rant, as unavoidably polished a wee bit extra by way of
Wikipedia and the JAXA/Selene mission that's currently in hiding from
those NASA/Apollo MIB.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albedo
"The overall albedo of the Moon is around 7%", obviously of less than
7% at low sunset/sunrise angles and otherwise of greater than 7% at
high noon. A typical unfiltered Kodak moment on the moon while solar
illuminated would be similar to that of recording an open-pit coal
mine. That same Kodak moment using a polarized optical element would
thereby record the physically dark moon as though looking much darker
than a open-pit coal mine as viewed by the unfiltered or naked human
eye.
Of flat/calm water with the sun at 55 degrees being worth an albedo of
less than 5% w/o polarizing element, and of nearly zero albedo when
taken along with the polarizing element. Go figure as to why so much
of our NASA/Apollo moon looked so unusually 0.65>0.75 light-gray, to
nearly as moonsuit white for as far as their unfiltered Kodak eye
could see, as though looking exactly of what a terrestrial xenon arc
lamp spectrum illuminated guano island would have recorded upon that
exact same film, using the same camera and lens.
Oddly the JAXA/Selene mission hasn't identified any such highly
reflective locations as hosting large items of our bright and shiny
Apollo stuff, and of far superior cameras and superior band-pass
coated optics was still getting that bluish saturation of what the raw
UV energy creates as secondary/recoil photons, so much so bluish tint
that those images of Earth had the foreground of the moon's color
pixels nullified into their monochrome version, of essentially being
those of gray-tone pixels of nearly a B&W format, of which at least
they'd eliminated that pesky bluish color saturation factor.
Unfortunately, the Adobe Flash image player used by the JAXA/
KAGUYA(Selene) team is downright pathetic for their image gallery, of
extremely poor resolution and even at that being terribly slow to
load.
http://www.isas.jaxa.jp/e/enterp/missions/kaguya/index.shtml
For some reason those terrific 10 meter resolution images and of such
extremely good DR(dynamic range) that's at least 10 fold better than
film, as such hasn't recorded upon any of those unusually bright NASA/
Apollo worthy pixel as otherwise surrounded by all the other coal like
physically dark pixels. Their first HDTV images upon arrival are
going to be harder to locate, because those were of the full color
spectrum that included the moon as looking so typically bluish (as it
should).
Notice how the moon's color saturation has been artificially reduced
down next to zilch, as well as their using minimal DR(dynamic) within
these following images.
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/11/20071113_kaguya_e.html
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/11/20071113_kaguya_e.html#pict02
The JAXA index_e.html
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/11/index_e.html
Notice the strong bluish color saturation worth of their HDTV look at
Earth.
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/10/20071001_kaguya_e.html
Look once again at those original color images as obtained by their
quality cameras and bandpass coated optics, as looking so gosh darn
blue saturated.
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/10/20071009_kaguya_e.html
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/10/20071021_kaguya_e.pdf
Since those few above images were released for public review, it seems
all the images released since are of those having their color
saturation pixels of that physically dark moon modified so as to
depict the moon as a rather dull charcoal grayish surface that's
entirely devoid of any worthy mineral deposits of color, or that of
having to show any of that pesky secondary/recoil worth of bluish
color saturation. What the hell gives? and where's the 10 meter
resolution look-see at those NASA/Apollo landing sites?
This next page of images includes "Figure 1 First Image taken by the
KAGUYA MI" is one of their artificial color saturated examples that's
created by way of their new and improved image science.
"The color image of the Moon (quasi color image) was composed by
applying red, green and blue respectively to three bands, namely
900nm, 700nm and 415nm, of the nine bands of MI." (notice how strong
their 415nm (blue) spectrum saturation is)
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/11/20071116_kaguya_e.html
Of course, of what little we're given to look at isn't even worth 0.1%
of images in the JAXA/KAGUYA(Selene) archives. If you were trying to
hide something on behalf of supporting the NASA/Apollo ruse and/or
hoax of their moon landings, this JAXA method of excluding the vast
bulk of images and/or of intentionally skewing the color and DR
saturation of those few were allowed to see (in order to suit all
things NASA/Apollo), is exactly how you'd have to go about doing it.
. - Brad Guth
On Mar 1, 5:50 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is Google Usenet Groups having another bad archive/server day?
>
> A somewhat better JAXA/Selene HDTV image file that doesn't seem nearly
> as doctored as those before, except for the unusual lack of dynamic
> range and poor color saturation (especially of the nakedmoonsurface
> as looking so unusually monochrome)
> http://wms.selene.jaxa.jp/data/en/hdtv/000/hdtv_000_6_l.jpg
>
> Cranking up those color saturations and of merely replacing the color
> black with a 10% lighter version of dark gray is what allows us to see
> the radiation belt or sphere of whatever's surrounding Earth, and for
> some odd reason makes our physically darkmoonlook as though
> greenish. Too bad we're still not being given any look-see at those
> original HDTV color images as is. Apparently, of anything JAXA/Selene
> is either taboo or having become nondisclosure rated, so that our NASA/Apollorusemasters can keep those lids on tight, because otherwise a
> 10 meter/pixel resolution image is entirely capable of depicting some
> of our large as well as bright and shinyApolloremainders.
>
> BTW, it's interesting to note how the Google 'search for' or of their
> 'search groups' is all screwed up again, such as a 'search groups' for
> "brad guth" and then apply their 'sort by date' keeps turning up this
> old topic of "Query for Brad Guth", as though it was of the most
> recent of contributions as having incorporated my name.
> . - Brad Guth
>
> On Jan 9, 11:14 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > For what reason(s) is the JAXA Selene mission so unusually taboo/
> > nondisclosure rated?
>
> > Is the JAXA Selene mission broken, or just getting nailed by something
> > unofficially NASA?
>
> > Apparently whatever I happen think doesn't matter, because what I
> > think is that we've been rather terribly snookered and dumbfounded to
> > death by those of our very own kind, as by those supposedly having
> > "the right stuff", whereas what you silly folks of Usenet fuckology
> > think as representing the official infomercial spewing clowns and
> > rusemasters of your Old Testament thumping Third Reich, is apparently
> > all that matters.
>
> > You'd think before our going off into the wild black yonder, that
> > perhaps it would be a good idea as to accomplish our extremely massive
> > and nearbymoon, or at least park a little something of a fuel cache
> > or Boeing like oasis of fuel(s) within themoon'sL1.
>
> > BTW, where's that JAXA Selene pixel truth and nothing but the truth to
> > behold? (hiding like Muslim WMD or like Venus always having kept
> > itself out of sight?)
>
> > Even if it's looking a touch worthy of all that nifty hue saturated as
> > a secondary/recoil blue (exactly as it should), and otherwise for
> > seeing our "right stuff" that's supposedly upon that physically dark
> > as an open pit coal mine of a dusty surface, whereas those highly
> > reflective and fairly large items of our NASAApollomoonlandings
> > should have been rather easily spotted against that physically dark
> > surface, not to mention the acre or more of their terribly disrupted
> > lunar surface standing out as an artificial sore thumb, and that's
> > even though the 10 meter resolution can't offer specific item or
> > terrain detail simply isn't the problem.
>
> > BTW No.2, I can't but help see the usual gauntlet of Usenet spermware/
> > fuckware arriving, as though the mostly Jewish troops of NASA's borg
> > army of brown-nosed clowns and minions are doing their job of tossing
> > flak, covering thy infowar spewing butts and otherwise mustering up as
> > much other damage control as possible, pretty much the same as they
> > provided on behalf of and as to what their old puppet warlord Hitler
> > used to do (of course these days it's all about doing whatever GW Bush
> > wants).
>
> > - Brad Guth
Top posted so that you silly folks don't miss a thing.
. - BG
Sam Buckland
> The official banishment of all things JAXA/Selene is in the works.
>
It is? How odd. The rest of us are having GREAT fun watching all
the images being posted on the web.