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Moon Hoax morons soon to be foiled by LRO images of US and SOVIET missions

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J Waggoner

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Mar 23, 2008, 1:17:13 AM3/23/08
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When the Lunar Reconnaisance orbiter takes off for lunar orbit this
fall, some landing site images will be available if not all of all
probes and landing sites of Apollo spacecraft and Soviet expeditions.
This could well include the fabled SIV stages and their smashed
remnants. Either way Tranquility base, to Hadley Rille will be on
display and the Lunokod and surveyor missions too.! We all know
that the naysaying Moon Hoaxers will say its all faked but for the
open minded, the more evidence the merrier....

On the LRO camera-sweep agenda are trips down memory lane too, said
Mark Robinson of Northwestern University's Center for Planetary
Sciences in Evanston, Illinois. He is Principal Investigator for the
Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter Camera (LROC).

Take note. For you "Apollo landings were a hoax" believers LROC's
sightseeing abilities should set the record straight.
Image Gallery: NASA's New Spaceship

VIDEO: A New Era of Space Exploration
Video animation of how NASA plans to get back to the Moon by 2018.

LROC is to image U.S. and Soviet landing sites on the Moon. That
includes NASA's Ranger and Surveyor lunar probes, as well as the touch
down spots of Apollo expeditionary crews and the impact sites of spent
Saturn rocket stages that hurled astronauts moonward. Also on the LROC
see list are the Soviet Union's Lunakhod automated rovers, Robinson
told SPACE.com.

"We will image the Apollo sites and you will see the descent stages
sitting on the surface," Robinson said. LROC will clearly see the
overall shape of that landing hardware, but won't be able to resolve
such things as the insignia on the side of the descent stage, or see
the stripes on astronaut-planted flags, he said.

Additionally, Robinson noted, given a setting Sun in the lunar sky,
LROC should spot the long shadow of descent stages cast across the
Moon's crater-pocked terrain.

Heading "Down Memory Lane"
Source link:
http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/060207_lro_technology.html

Pat Flannery

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Mar 23, 2008, 4:58:37 AM3/23/08
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J Waggoner wrote:
>
> Take note. For you "Apollo landings were a hoax" believers LROC's
> sightseeing abilities should set the record straight.
>

How do we know that those footprints weren't left by _androids_, rather
than astronauts?
Yeah, I thought as much...you're part of the conspiracy too, _aren't_ you?
Don't wait for the translation into COBOL..."Yes" or "No", Mr. Roboto! :-)

Pat

Alan Erskine

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Mar 23, 2008, 5:15:02 AM3/23/08
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"Pat Flannery" <fla...@daktel.com> wrote in message
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Pat; you're starting to scare me. ;-)


Pat Flannery

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Mar 23, 2008, 6:58:20 AM3/23/08
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Alan Erskine wrote:
>> How do we know that those footprints weren't left by _androids_, rather
>> than astronauts?
>> Yeah, I thought as much...you're part of the conspiracy too, _aren't_ you?
>> Don't wait for the translation into COBOL..."Yes" or "No", Mr. Roboto! :-)
>>
>> Pat
>>
>
> Pat; you're starting to scare me. ;-)
>

Well...the plot thickens, doesn't it, MR. ANDROID? :-)
Still nothing about OM.

Pat

>
>

BradGuth

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Mar 23, 2008, 7:49:11 AM3/23/08
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Why soon, and not otherwise as of decades ago, or at least as of JAXA
Selene as having more than sufficient resolution for having a few of
those 10 meter resolution pixels getting extra illuminated by way of
our bright and shiny Apollo stuff situated upon that physically dark
as coal moon?
. - Brad Guth

Peter Stickney

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Mar 23, 2008, 10:00:01 AM3/23/08
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Pat Flannery wrote:

>
>
> Alan Erskine wrote:
>>> How do we know that those footprints weren't left by _androids_, rather
>>> than astronauts?
>>> Yeah, I thought as much...you're part of the conspiracy too, _aren't_
>>> you? Don't wait for the translation into COBOL..."Yes" or "No", Mr.
>>> Roboto! :-)

1

>> Pat; you're starting to scare me. ;-)
>>
>
> Well...the plot thickens, doesn't it, MR. ANDROID? :-)
> Still nothing about OM.

This is troubling. Is there any chance of locating his brother, uhm "Dim"?
Or, perhaps, getting in touch with, say, the manager at one of his more
public employers?

Some of these Staph infections can be brutal, MRSA or no. Foot wounds
are nasty for getting infected - they are, after all, closest to the places
where the germs hang out. Hospitals tend to collect really nasty stuff
that can survive the "normal" disinfection.

I'm getting worried.

OM, if you can read this, blink my Num Lock light twice.

--
Pete Stickney
Without data, all you have is an opinion

Alan Erskine

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Mar 23, 2008, 10:33:40 AM3/23/08
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Hehe... Mate, I wish I was one of those people/androids who left footprints
on the Moon.


Alan Erskine

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Mar 23, 2008, 10:35:39 AM3/23/08
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(top post)

As for OM; do you have a phone number? Maybe call him.

"Pat Flannery" <fla...@daktel.com> wrote in message

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BradGuth

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Mar 23, 2008, 11:34:26 AM3/23/08
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If having been on the moon and having taken all of those thousands of
unfiltered Kodak moments (from that physically dark as coal surface as
well as from orbit), then where's Venus?

Of gabi40, Clint Eastwood, susi40, susi40001, susi40006, mirror
server, kgkgjkgkgkfgk and perhaps countless other trash or spam topics
oddly do not seem to bother those in charge of this or any other
Usenet group. Why is that?

Are these clownish methods of stuffing or force-feeding topics as
faith-based approved, so as to intentionally block or displace all
others, or is this Usenet Group trashing tactic merely of something
MI5/CIA approved?

As much the same as our team of cloak and dagger wizards having
terminated the robust portion of ESA'a Venus Express PFS instrument,
it's another interesting note about our physically dark and nasty
moon, in that all the supposed better science (far better off than
anything NASA/Apollo or of anything NASA since Apollo) and of
otherwise perfectly fine expertise of the JAXA/Selene mission is still
after all of this on-orbit science officially sequestered, as though
forced into being taboo/nondisclosure within one of our NASA space
toilets? (perhaps as parked right next to those 700 missing boxes of
their Apollo moon landing hoax missions and of all those pesky Muslim
WMD)

In addition to what I've discovered, and my having been trying within
my best dyslexic encrypted ways to share the new and improved science
about Venus and our moon for the past 8+ years and counting, it seems
there's lots more to behold about good old Earth that's worth our
knowing and sharing, such as the many interesting discoveries and
subsequent topics within the following link: Archaeology Answers
About Ancient Civilizations Indus River Valley Ancient Maps of the
World Ancient India Civilizations Ancient China Civilization Egypt
Ancient Gods Strange Pictures Dead Men's Secrets Lost Technology and
more...
www.beforeus.com

Other than my having deductively interpreted via observationology as
to what looks so perfectly intelligent/artificial of the Venus tarmac,
township/community of large structures, plus the surrounding
infrastructure and of that nearby bridge as looking so gosh darn
rational, I can't be absolutely certain about such other intelligent
life still existing/coexisting on Venus. However, at least the
regular laws of physics and of the best available science can't
possibly exclude such, because even us frail humans along with a
sufficient degree of applied technology could make a go of it,
especially as for representing ETs capable of getting ourselves to/
from Venus would in of itself offer more than sufficient technological
expertise for safely accommodating an extended stay in spite of all
that geothermally forced environment of Venus being so geologically
newish, CO2/S8 vapor hot and otherwise downright nasty from the bottom
up, and otherwise not as we've been informed as being entirely
greenhouse roasted from the top down. The planet Venus has been
losing its core energy at the rate of 20.5 w/m2 (roughly 256 fold
greater than Earth), because Venus is simply geothermally active and
thus hotter than hell.

-

Where are all of those good NASA/Apollo moon landing hoax topics
going? It's as though this Earth is flat, whereas such topics and of
their authors along with each and every one of those 700 boxes of our
NASA/Apollo mission data just fell off the edge.

Perhaps we should take a little reflective quiet time to fully
appreciate upon the recent intellectual and anti-science imposed
gauntlets of this Usenet topic/author stalking and science blockage,
whereas instead of the truth we're seeing forced topic stacking of
such wordy disinformation crapolla so that the general public or media
doesn't get an honest wind or otherwise bother to look deep enough
into this mainstream cesspool of Usenet, as to discover what's really
going down the drain.

It's exactly like the cloak and dagger worth of those NASA Apollo
false or dishonest topics having those key search words of NASA,
Apollo, moon landing and hoax continually included within each and
every one of those phony postings of obviously bogus topics, that
which also include naughty smut and porn related context, as clearly
intended in order to cause automatic filtering of what public schools
ever get to read, as well as to divert the honest research intentions
of others, by way of those hidden or cloak and dagger means that
essentially wash-out or force-purge all previous forms of perfectly
serious related topics out of their Google/NOVA archives, and thus
getting removed from their infowar and otherwise mainstream hype
configured Usenet, so that only the mainstream status quo of topics in
100% support of government and of their faith-based NASA/Apollo side
of this issue remains accessible to the public.

Do yourself a basic favor by simply accomplishing a Google Usenet/
Group search of ' apollo hoax ' or try ' moon landing ' and then use
the "sort by date" feature. It's funny, isn't it.

In them good old days of applying this form of government and
theological extremist oversight, or merely orchestrated clownism, as
such this tactic was mainstream swarm like accomplished via witch and
book burnings that achieved their form of mainstream damage-control
trickery of that dark-side era, as well as if need be having put those
of their own kind on a stick for yet another shock and awe worth of a
faith-based PR stunt wasn't overlooked.

BTW, my for-real phone of 253-8576061 and email of bradguth@gmail or
bradguth@yahoo (among others) has always been answered by myself, so
if you're not getting through or you believe that I'm not answering my
phone or otherwise not reading or much less returning your email, it's
simply not the least bit intentionally because of myself, but instead
it's more than likely of those calls or emails of yours have been
getting systematically intercepted, modified and/or diverted by those
in charge, and otherwise skewed by those having the most to lose,
especially if they're not doing their spook and mole like jobs at
keeping the rest of us supposed village idiots snookered and
dumbfounded past the point of no return.

If this bad situation of censorship that's clearly getting worse isn't
exactly of what those global domination Zionists and of their puppet
Hitler warlord (aka partner in crimes against humanity) had in mind,
as having since been replaced by our warlord GW Bush and of his born-
again faith of brown-nosed minions, then what the hell is?

Seems via presidential signings and of those DHS powers of God has
entirely excluded or having banished all others from taking proper
action. Again, it's all very Third Reich and otherwise warlord and
global domination like.
. - Brad Guth

Pat Flannery

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Mar 23, 2008, 10:01:29 PM3/23/08
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Peter Stickney wrote:
> Pat Flannery wrote:
>
>
>> Alan Erskine wrote:
>>
>>>> How do we know that those footprints weren't left by _androids_, rather
>>>> than astronauts?
>>>> Yeah, I thought as much...you're part of the conspiracy too, _aren't_
>>>> you? Don't wait for the translation into COBOL..."Yes" or "No", Mr.
>>>> Roboto! :-)
>>>>
>
> 1
>
>
>>> Pat; you're starting to scare me. ;-)
>>>
>>>
>> Well...the plot thickens, doesn't it, MR. ANDROID? :-)
>> Still nothing about OM.
>>
>
> This is troubling. Is there any chance of locating his brother, uhm "Dim"?
> Or, perhaps, getting in touch with, say, the manager at one of his more
> public employers?
>

Calling all strippers! Calling all strippers! Come in strippers... and
stay a while; I'll make you drinks.

> Some of these Staph infections can be brutal, MRSA or no. Foot wounds
> are nasty for getting infected - they are, after all, closest to the places
> where the germs hang out. Hospitals tend to collect really nasty stuff
> that can survive the "normal" disinfection.
>
> I'm getting worried.
>
> OM, if you can read this, blink my Num Lock light twice.
>

You don't want the spirit of OM hovering near your keyboard! Soon it
will begin to type things... horrible things involving your relationship
with your uncles, leaving your keyboard covered with ectoplasmic
profanity. And even vintage IBM keyboards can't handle that stuff. :-)

Pat

BradGuth

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Mar 24, 2008, 12:18:56 PM3/24/08
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On Mar 22, 9:17 pm, J Waggoner <jwag...@alltel.net> wrote:


Where's Venus hiding within Apollo missions 11, 14 and 16?

Why are all the public simulators forbidden to include Venus as
otherwise easily seen from our physically dark moon?
. - Brad Guth

Eric Chomko

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Mar 24, 2008, 1:08:24 PM3/24/08
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Brad you're as bad as those cheezy Sci-Fi films that made all objects
in space seem close to one another, so as to make space travel appear
like terrestial travel. The moon, even if it were in between the earth
and Venus and the earth were at inferior conjunction with the Venus;
the moon would still 99 times as far away from Venus as it is Earth.

Do you actually believe that the numbers of 260,000 miles as an
approximate lunar distance and the inferior conjunction distance of
Earth and Venus as 26,000,000 miles is some sort of CIA/MI5 ruse?
These numbers are approximate for calculation purposes, but they
clearly are accurate with a few percentage points and make the 1/100
ratio of moon distance/Venus distance to the earth accurate.

Why would astronauts see Venus any better from the moon as we do other
than the atmospere?

BradGuth

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Mar 24, 2008, 2:29:11 PM3/24/08
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What's "cheezy Sci-Fi" about the regular laws of physics and the best
available science that's peer replicated outside of NASA?

> The moon, even if it were in between the earth
> and Venus and the earth were at inferior conjunction with the Venus;
> the moon would still 99 times as far away from Venus as it is Earth.
>
> Do you actually believe that the numbers of 260,000 miles as an
> approximate lunar distance and the inferior conjunction distance of
> Earth and Venus as 26,000,000 miles is some sort of CIA/MI5 ruse?

Lacking in brain food, are we? Is going way out of context the status
quo norm for you?

Where the hell did you come up with that silly "CIA/MI5 ruse" of
yours.

>
> These numbers are approximate for calculation purposes, but they
> clearly are accurate with a few percentage points and make the 1/100
> ratio of moon distance/Venus distance to the earth accurate.

I agree, that Venus at times gets to within 100X the distance of our
moon, thus you'll get no argument from me.

CIA/MI5 are merely the official MIB in charge of all the cloak and
dagger right stuff of our mutually perpetrated cold-war, of which
includes the smoke and mirrors worth of those NASA/Apollo moon landing
hoax aspects.

>
> Why would astronauts see Venus any better from the moon as we do other
> than the atmospere?

How could they have missed something that has got such an impressive
albedo of better than roughly twice that of Earth, and at times being
easily within the same optical lens FOV, along with either including
Earth and/or that of our physically dark moon?

It would have been technically impossible for those unfiltered Kodak
moments to have so entirely missed getting a darn good look-see of
having included Venus, as having clearly recorded such upon that Kodak
film with plenty of DR(dynamic range) to burn, so to speak.
. - Brad Guth

BradGuth

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Mar 25, 2008, 6:25:24 PM3/25/08
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Where the heck are all of those perfectly good NASA/Apollo moon
landing hoax topics going? It's as though this Earth is actually

the "sort by date" feature. It's downright funny, isn't it.

In them good old days of applying this form of government and
theological extremist oversight, or merely orchestrated clownism, as
such this tactic was mainstream swarm like accomplished via witch and
book burnings that achieved their form of mainstream damage-control
trickery of that dark-side era, as well as if need be having put those
of their own kind on a stick for yet another shock and awe worth of a
faith-based PR stunt wasn't overlooked.

BTW, my for-real phone of 253-8576061 and email of bradguth@gmail or
bradguth@yahoo (among others) has always been answered by myself, so
if you're not getting through or you believe that I'm not answering my
phone or otherwise not reading or much less returning your email, it's
simply not the least bit intentionally because of myself, but instead
it's more than likely of those calls or emails of yours have been
getting systematically intercepted, modified and/or diverted by those
in charge, and otherwise skewed by those having the most to lose,
especially if they're not doing their spook and mole like jobs at
keeping the rest of us supposed village idiots snookered and
dumbfounded past the point of no return.

If this bad situation of censorship that's clearly getting worse isn't
exactly of what those global domination Zionists and of their puppet
Hitler warlord (aka partner in crimes against humanity) had in mind,

as having since been replaced by our very own warlord(GW Bush) and of
his born-again faith of brown-nosed minions, then what the hell is?

Seems via those presidential signings and of all those DHS powers of


God has entirely excluded or having banished all others from taking
proper action. Again, it's all very Third Reich and otherwise warlord

and otherwise Old Testament of being Zionist global domination like.

-

Here's another good one for the old status quo gipper of remote Usenet
censorship, and/or of robo-moderation that's oddly not getting the
least bit opposed by way of those in charge of snookering and/or
traumatizing humanity and our frail environment to death. In other
words of my somewhat dyslexic wisdom, it seems that we few good-guys
are the only ones telling it like it is.

m...: (obvious MI5/CIA spook/mole) has this context to offer:
> The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.space.policy/browse_frm/thread/ce470f72d68d0305/9d0677c2204ec90a?hl=en#9d0677c2204ec90a
> It doesn't matter, rec.photo.digital.* just hashed this out.
>You might care to take a look at:
> Killing all posts from Google Groups

"Killing all posts from Google Groups" seems all very warm and fuzzy
Hitler or Zionist of yourself, isn't it.

How about your mainstream status quo of faith-based warlords doing
their usual book and witch burnings at the stake again, or at least
good old waterboarding of those that post such obvious spam?

Or how about their PACWEST of ISP backbone data services having
terminated wide areas of dial-up access on behalf of whatever MI5/CIA
is requesting. It's exactly as though those ENRON qualified
executives were hired in order to pull off yet another sweet deal of
packing our hard earned loot into their offshore bank accounts, by way
of forcing dial-up users to go DSL, or else.

Obviously our Usenet contributor "m..." and others of their incest
mutated kind voted for GW Bush and company of brown-nosed clowns and
minions, that would gladly kill off whomever for their next buck.

I would argue on behalf of a basic robo-moderator function that could
just as easily uncover and divert and/or extract such clearly spam
posted crapolla topics to a similar named group, such as merely having
the .spam added on, as in sci.space.policy.spam should work rather
nicely without ever causing total censorship or author banishment
issues.

BTW, the best of our "Top 10 Space Conspiracy Theories" is still the
ongoing NASA/Apollo moon landing hoax of our mutually perpetrated cold-
war for profit and global domination century, yet oddly these topics
of perfectly keen interest are in fact getting robo-purged from
Usenet, replaced with officially posted spam that's bogus as well as
such porn and smut loaded topics only sucks and blows, as clearly
intended by those in charge.

If smart folks as supposedly having all of "the right stuff" had in
fact been upon the moon and having taken all of those thousands of


unfiltered Kodak moments (from that physically dark as coal surface as

well as from orbit), then do tell us where the hell Venus was hiding
as of missions A11, A14 and A16?

Of all the other sorts of gabi40, Clint Eastwood, susi40, susi40001,
susi40006, mirror server, dlcz, kgkgjkgkgkfgk and perhaps countless
other trash or spam topics getting forced into the Usenet stack,
whereas oddly these silly clownish efforts of their mainstream damage-
control do not seem to bother any of those in charge of this or any
other Usenet group. Why is that? (seems rather Zionist, or worse,
doesn't it)

Are these clownish methods of stuffing or force-feeding such topics as
faith-based approved, so as to intentionally block out or displace all
others from the index worth of other legit topics, or is this Usenet
group by group trashing tactic merely of something MI5/CIA approved?

As much the same as our team of cloak and dagger wizards having
terminated the robust portion of ESA'a Venus Express PFS instrument,

it's yet another interesting note about our physically dark and nasty


moon, in that all the supposed better science (far better off than
anything NASA/Apollo or of anything NASA since Apollo) and of
otherwise perfectly fine expertise of the JAXA/Selene mission is still

after all of this on-orbit science is officially sequestered, as


though forced into being taboo/nondisclosure within one of our NASA

space toilets. (perhaps as parked right next to those 700 missing


boxes of their Apollo moon landing hoax missions and of all those
pesky Muslim WMD)

In addition to what little I've discovered, and my having been trying
within my best dyslexic encrypted ways to share this new and improved


science about Venus and our moon for the past 8+ years and counting,
it seems there's lots more to behold about good old Earth that's worth
our knowing and sharing, such as the many interesting discoveries and
subsequent topics within the following link: Archaeology Answers
About Ancient Civilizations Indus River Valley Ancient Maps of the
World Ancient India Civilizations Ancient China Civilization Egypt
Ancient Gods Strange Pictures Dead Men's Secrets Lost Technology and
more...
www.beforeus.com

Other than my having deductively interpreted via honest


observationology as to what looks so perfectly intelligent/artificial
of the Venus tarmac, township/community of large structures, plus the
surrounding infrastructure and of that nearby bridge as looking so
gosh darn rational, I can't be absolutely certain about such other
intelligent life still existing/coexisting on Venus. However, at

least the regular laws of physics and of the best available science


can't possibly exclude such, because even us frail humans along with a
sufficient degree of applied technology could make a go of it,
especially as for representing ETs capable of getting ourselves to/
from Venus would in of itself offer more than sufficient technological
expertise for safely accommodating an extended stay in spite of all
that geothermally forced environment of Venus being so geologically
newish, CO2/S8 vapor hot and otherwise downright nasty from the bottom
up, and otherwise not as we've been informed as being entirely
greenhouse roasted from the top down. The planet Venus has been
losing its core energy at the rate of 20.5 w/m2 (roughly 256 fold
greater than Earth), because Venus is simply geothermally active and
thus hotter than hell.

. - Brad Guth

BradGuth

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Mar 26, 2008, 9:31:09 AM3/26/08
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Mythbustin' the Moon Hoax
"Update: I've been told the episode does not air April 25. The air
date has not been set yet, but I'll make sure I announce it when it
is!"

· # Forreston 17 Mar 2008 at 11:55 am "I wonder if this will ever be
aired. It would be interesting to find out what they prove or
disprove. After seeing the air date change to TBA, I wonder just how
much was a hoax!"

http://www.duggback.com/space/Mythbusters_to_tackle_the_moon_landing_hoaxes/

Unfortunately, this forever ongoing infowar of supposed Apollo moon
landing hoax Mythbustin' doesn't bother to cover several of the most
important and easily peer replicated factors, that'll just as easily
prove our NASA/Apollo wizards never set a human footprint on the
moon. Remember, if they had absolute proof positive on behalf of all
that's NASA/Apollo, as such it would have been mainstream published
along with multiple peer replicated support that's entirely
independent from any sort of NASA or other government loot or
background moderation. Unfortunately, not even Google/NOVA is the
least bit independent.
. - Brad Guth

Michael Gallagher

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Mar 27, 2008, 12:54:20 PM3/27/08
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On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 00:17:13 -0500, J Waggoner <jwa...@alltel.net>
wrote:

> .... We all know
>that the naysaying Moon Hoaxers will say its all faked .....

Exactly, so don't get your hopes up.

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Eric Chomko

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Mar 27, 2008, 2:04:49 PM3/27/08
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On Mar 27, 12:54 pm, Michael Gallagher <mikejo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 00:17:13 -0500, J Waggoner <jwag...@alltel.net>

> wrote:
>
> > ....  We all know
> >that the naysaying Moon Hoaxers will say its all faked .....
>
> Exactly, so don't get your hopes up.
>

But we will have new data so they'll have to explain how it was faked
and maybe a few will actually believe that we landed after the LRO
encounter. Then again there may be that strange phenomenon where a few
believers become doubters but I suspect that that will bew few and far
in between.

BradGuth

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Mar 27, 2008, 3:08:40 PM3/27/08
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On Mar 27, 8:54 am, Michael Gallagher <mikejo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 00:17:13 -0500, J Waggoner <jwag...@alltel.net>

> wrote:
>
> > .... We all know
> >that the naysaying Moon Hoaxers will say its all faked .....
>
> Exactly, so don't get your hopes up.

And you're telling us where and/or how our NASA/Apollo wizards with
all of their "right stuff" managed to hide Venus? (obviously not,
because technically such is impossible)

What's your sorry excuse for the JAXA/Selene mission as having been
made taboo/nondisclosure rated?
. - Brad Guth

BradGuth

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Mar 27, 2008, 3:10:51 PM3/27/08
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Independent interpreted data that's peer replicated outside of your
hocus-pocus NASA isn't a problem, and never has been.
. - Brad Guth

Eric Chomko

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Mar 27, 2008, 9:36:27 PM3/27/08
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Brad, do you think that the Russians, who have sent numerous probes
and rovers to the moon, would allow the US nemisis to start/continue
with an Apollo ruse without exposing the farce?

What exactly do you want? If JAXA/Selene jibes with LRO, and proves
that we did in fact put 12 white men on the moon, will you then
repent?

Matt Wiser

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Mar 27, 2008, 10:17:13 PM3/27/08
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Eric Chomko <pne.c...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>But we will have new data so they'll have to explain how it was faked
>and maybe a few will actually believe that we landed after the LRO
>encounter. Then again there may be that strange phenomenon where a few
>believers become doubters but I suspect that that will bew few and far
>in between.

You can count the number who will change their minds on one hand. The ones who
don't change belong in padded cells and straightjackets, IMHO. One of them who infests this
NG certainly belongs in a psych ward. To these nutcases, their conspiracy theory
(or theories) is like a religion; to change any of it because there's evidence that their theory
is just paranoid delusions to them is heresy. Kinda like die-hard communists or socialists
all these years after the Wall came down: they just can't get used to the fact that the Party's
over....The only other way to get them to change their minds is with a two-by-four on their
rear ends.

BradGuth

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So, you obviously don't like having to use those pesky regular laws of
physics, or any of the best peer replicated science outside of your
NASA/.Apollo cult. Is that why the planet Venus was always
invisible?
. - Brad Guth

BradGuth

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On Mar 27, 5:36 pm, Eric Chomko <pne.cho...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Mar 27, 3:10 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 27, 10:04 am, Eric Chomko <pne.cho...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 27, 12:54 pm, Michael Gallagher <mikejo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 00:17:13 -0500, J Waggoner <jwag...@alltel.net>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > .... We all know
> > > > >that the naysaying Moon Hoaxers will say its all faked .....
>
> > > > Exactly, so don't get your hopes up.
>
> > > But we will have new data so they'll have to explain how it was faked
> > > and maybe a few will actually believe that we landed after the LRO
> > > encounter. Then again there may be that strange phenomenon where a few
> > > believers become doubters but I suspect that that will bew few and far
> > > in between.
>
> > Independent interpreted data that's peer replicated outside of your
> > hocus-pocus NASA isn't a problem, and never has been.
>
> Brad, do you think that the Russians, who have sent numerous probes
> and rovers to the moon, would allow the US nemisis to start/continue
> with an Apollo ruse without exposing the farce?

Last I heard, it still takes two to tango.

>
> What exactly do you want? If JAXA/Selene jibes with LRO, and proves
> that we did in fact put 12 white men on the moon, will you then
> repent?

Of course, but why the hell not having those 100mm resolution images
as of 10, 20 or even 30 years ago?

BTW, why not a robotic science platform of instruments within the
moon's L1, as such a deployment wouldn't have cost us 1% of those
Apollo missions, and to think the moon's L1 thing (with upgrades)
would still be ticking along as of 40 years and counting.
. - Brad Guth

BradGuth

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On Mar 22, 9:17 pm, J Waggoner <jwag...@alltel.net> wrote:

Why all the missing Usenet page after page of those NASA Apollo moon
landing topics?

Why all the smut and porn related topics with having incorporated key
words of NASA, Apollo, moon landing and even hoax?

BradGuth

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Mar 30, 2008, 1:26:12 PM3/30/08
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It seems there's still too much that's cloak and dagger worthy or that
of ongoing disinformation and the exclusion of evidence that's ongoing
about our moon, as to not perceive that we're being officially
snookered and otherwise dumbfounded to death by our very own rabbi
kind.

MOM (Motive, Opportunity and Means) = USA/USSR race to the moon

Like most everything published of our NASA/Apollo moon landing,
everything on the following NASA page is either a lie or an exclusion
of whatever evidence that's the least bit contrary to their agenda.
It is not the least bit unusual for governments or of their brown-
nosed minions to lie, because it is so often of what they do best.
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast23feb_2.htm
http://pirlwww.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/NOT_faked/

Each and every unfiltered Kodak moment as supposedly obtained while on
the moon is bogus/fake, and as such are only too easily proven as
such without hardly a fight because, peer replicated science as based
upon the regular laws of physics is what works perfectly each and
every time. Oddly their own Kodak partners in crimes against humanity
refuse to step into this NASA/Apollo cesspool O-Ring cult of fire.

There is more than a dozen specifics about such fly-by-rocket
technology, photographics, as well as that of physical and
environmental considerations that simply would not hold up in any
actual court of law if required to support the official record. But
then we all know as a matter of fact that our government does not play
by any set of fair rules, whereas even those rules of their own making
are freely skewed in order to suit or otherwise banish whatever the
situation demands.

The list of viable topics as fair arguments can be as short or as long
as you like, but remember that uncovering only one lie need be the
case of proving without possible doubt that we humans have not walked
on our physically dark moon as officially scripted by our NASA, or of
having been robotically traveled upon as touted by the USSR/Russian
side of this tango. There's also the forever orchestrated clownism
swarm of internet/usenet agents (aka spooks and moles) doing their
usual cloak and dagger thing, of stalking authors for the intent of
making topics that do not fully support the mainstream status quo as
muddy and/or as clownish and otherwise as smut polluted topics as
possible. Even hundreds of intentionally bogus topics of pure
gibberish smut incorporating key wordage as NASA, Apollo, moon
landing, fake and hoax have been created and posted by those in charge
of their PR damage-control, which seems downright silly and otherwise
extremely odd as to why they'd have to resort or otherwise allow such
childish and adult porn tactics.

With an existing overkill worth of efficient spysat imaging resolution
of that very same era, and of far better resolution since, seems
rather odd that such continued and robotically affordable science
gathering of absolutely terrific (0.1 m) resolution, and even capable
of full/extended tri-color spectrum details on behalf of mineral and
deposit mapping as rather easily obtained from a close lunar orbit,
was never accomplished to the degree technically possible by our crack
MI5/CIA/NSA and Air Force spy-masters of our mutually perpetrated cold-
war era, as well as recently JAXA/Selene has been place into a no-win
situation so that their HDTV color and other high resolution images
are officially taboo/nondisclosure rated (in other words, officially
excluded by command of our NASA), as though there is either a little
too much of ET worthy information that they either don't want us to
see, or perhaps it's simply because there's still nothing to see of
exactly where there should have been lots of our Apollo stuff.

So, because there's so much of truth and consequences to select from,
where do we start?
. - Brad Guth

BradGuth

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On Mar 22, 9:17 pm, J Waggoner <jwag...@alltel.net> wrote:

30 pages and counting, of Google search for - moon hoax - and "sort by
date" that's all chuck full of damage control crapolla, of whatever
those silly brown-nosed clowns can post and continually get away with
such posting.

Perhaps the news media or those of most any publication worth at least
half its salt should just call 253-8576061 and talk directly with
myself.
. - Brad Guth

BradGuth

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Here's more of my same old dyslexic encrypted rant, as unavoidably
polished a wee bit extra by way of Wikipedia and the JAXA/Selene
mission that's currently in hiding from those NASA/Apollo MIB.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albedo
"The overall albedo of the Moon is around 7%", obviously of less than
7% at low sunset/sunrise angles and otherwise of greater than 7% at
high noon. A typical unfiltered Kodak moment on the moon while solar
illuminated would be similar to that of recording an open-pit coal
mine. That same Kodak moment using a polarized optical element would
thereby record the physically dark moon as though looking much darker
than a open-pit coal mine as viewed by the unfiltered or naked human
eye.

Of flat/calm water with the sun at 55 degrees being worth an albedo of
less than 5% w/o polarizing element, and of nearly zero albedo when
taken along with the polarizing element. Go figure as to why so much
of our NASA/Apollo moon looked so unusually 0.65>0.75 light-gray, to
nearly as moonsuit white for as far as their unfiltered Kodak eye
could see, as though looking exactly of what a terrestrial xenon arc
lamp spectrum illuminated guano island would have recorded upon that
exact same film, using the same camera and lens.

Oddly the JAXA/Selene mission hasn't identified any such highly
reflective locations, and of far superior cameras and superior band-
pass coated optics was still getting that bluish saturation of what
the raw UV energy creates as secondary/recoil photons, so much so
bluish that those images of Earth had the moon's color pixels
nullified into their monochrome version, of essentially being those of
gray-tone pixels of nearly a B&W format, of which at least they'd
eliminated that pesky bluish color saturation factor.

Unfortunately, the Adobe Flash image player used by the JAXA/
KAGUYA(Selene) team is downright pathetic for their image gallery, of
extremely poor resolution and even at that being terribly slow to
load.
http://www.isas.jaxa.jp/e/enterp/missions/kaguya/index.shtml

For some reason those terrific 10 meter resolution images and of such
extremely good DR(dynamic range) that's at least 10 fold better than
film, as such hasn't recorded upon any of those unusually bright NASA/
Apollo worthy pixel as otherwise surrounded by all the other coal like
physically dark pixels. Their first HDTV images upon arrival are
going to be harder to locate, because those were of the full color
spectrum that included the moon as looking so typically bluish (as it
should).

Notice how the moon's color saturation has been artificially reduced
down next to zilch, as well as their using minimal DR(dynamic) within
these following images.
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/11/20071113_kaguya_e.html
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/11/20071113_kaguya_e.html#pict02

The JAXA index_e.html
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/11/index_e.html
Notice the strong bluish color saturation worth of their HDTV look at
Earth.
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/10/20071001_kaguya_e.html

Look once again at those original color images as obtained by their
quality cameras and bandpass coated optics, as looking so gosh darn
blue saturated.
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/10/20071009_kaguya_e.html
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/10/20071021_kaguya_e.pdf

Since those few above images were released for public review, it seems
all the images released since are of those having their color
saturation pixels of that physically dark moon modified so as to
depict the moon as a rather dull charcoal grayish surface that's
entirely devoid of any worthy mineral deposits of color, or that of
having to show any of that pesky secondary/recoil worth of bluish
color saturation. What the hell gives? and where's the 10 meter
resolution look-see at those NASA/Apollo landing sites?

This next page of images includes "Figure 1 First Image taken by the
KAGUYA MI" is one of their artificial color saturated examples that's
created by way of their new and improved image science.

"The color image of the Moon (quasi color image) was composed by
applying red, green and blue respectively to three bands, namely
900nm, 700nm and 415nm, of the nine bands of MI." (notice how strong
their 415nm (blue) spectrum saturation is)
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/11/20071116_kaguya_e.html

Of course, of what little we're given to look at isn't even worth 0.1%
of images in the JAXA/KAGUYA(Selene) archives. If you were trying to
hide something on behalf of supporting the NASA/Apollo ruse and/or
hoax of their moon landings, this JAXA method of excluding the vast
bulk of images and/or of intentionally skewing the color and DR
saturation of those few were allowed to see (in order to suit all
things NASA/Apollo), is exactly how you'd have to go about doing it.
. - Brad Guth

Top posted, so that you silly folks don't miss a darn thing.
. - BG

BradGuth

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Mythbusters should also check this one out.

Now we're being so kindly informed once again, and this time by the
warm and fuzzy plus otherwise wizardly likes of Eric Chomko, as well
as from the full swarm like support of all else that's Borg like pro-
NASA, that of whatever albedo is actually dependent upon the viewing
distance, and even as much as not hardly worth mentioning as having to
do with the angle of solar illumination.

Phobos in color and 3D http://groups.google.com/group/sci.space.history/browse_frm/thread/ea06e58325c3250f?hl=en#

Apparently, even sunrise or sunset angles of local illumination for
Eric Chomko only increases the reflective nature of a given surface
that's otherwise on average nearly coal like, especially of those
pesky off-world kinds of places that simply don't have to play by
those pesky regular laws of physics, and to make things a whole lot
worse, is if using a polarized optical element gives the local terrain
of our moon yet another minimum boost of 2:1 or greater albedo. No
wonder that NASA/Apollo moon looked so EVA locally reflective, as
though exactly like a certain 0.65~0.75 albedo worth of a guano
island, as well as for why those various colors of known items looked
exactly as though having been xenon arc lamp spectrum illuminated.

I don't want others to think that I'm nearly as smart as Eric Chomko,
although actual terrestrial coal seems smarter than Eric, not to
mention corporate Kodak or any other commercial film supplier. Of
course, we all know that not one outside living soul (meaning other
than dominated by and/or in debt to NASA/Apollo) has ever set their
naked eye or much less of any perfectly failsafe (meaning zero harm)
digital scanner upon any one of all those thousands of NASA/Apollo
mission related Kodak moments.

If some of us didn't know better, you'd think our NASA and of those
having "the right stuff" were trying really hard to hide something.
. - Brad Guth

J Waggoner

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Frankly if you want to embarrass yourself go ahead. The Chinese
certainly haven't come out and said we didn't land either. and in 1968
BEFORE Nixon visited were supporting the North Vietnamese....

So are you saying NASA duped Mao Tse Dung and Leonid Breshnev ?

AND ANSWER THAT QUESTION DON"T AVOID IT :))

BradGuth

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On Apr 25, 11:10 pm, J Waggoner <jwag...@alltel.net> wrote:
> Frankly if you want to embarrass yourself go ahead. The Chinese
> certainly haven't come out and said we didn't land either. and in 1968
> BEFORE Nixon visited were supporting the North Vietnamese....
>
> So are you saying NASA duped Mao Tse Dung and Leonid Breshnev ?
>
> AND ANSWER THAT QUESTION DON"T AVOID IT :))
>
> On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:46:51 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth
>
> >Phobos in color and 3D http://groups.google.com/group/sci.space.history/browse_frm/thread/ea...

>
> >Apparently, even sunrise or sunset angles of local illumination for
> >Eric Chomko only increases the reflective nature of a given surface
> >that's otherwise on average nearly coal like, especially of those
> >pesky off-world kinds of places that simply don't have to play by
> >those pesky regular laws of physics, and to make things a whole lot
> >worse, is if using a polarized optical element gives the local terrain
> >of our moon yet another minimum boost of 2:1 or greater albedo. No
> >wonder that NASA/Apollo moon looked so EVA locally reflective, as
> >though exactly like a certain 0.65~0.75 albedo worth of a guano
> >island, as well as for why those various colors of known items looked
> >exactly as though having been xenon arc lamp spectrum illuminated.
>
> >I don't want others to think that I'm nearly as smart as Eric Chomko,
> >although actual terrestrial coal seems smarter than Eric, not to
> >mention corporate Kodak or any other commercial film supplier. Of
> >course, we all know that not one outside living soul (meaning other
> >than dominated by and/or in debt to NASA/Apollo) has ever set their
> >naked eye or much less of any perfectly failsafe (meaning zero harm)
> >digital scanner upon any one of all those thousands of NASA/Apollo
> >mission related Kodak moments.
>
> >If some of us didn't know better, you'd think our NASA and of those
> >having "the right stuff" were trying really hard to hide something.
> >. - Brad Guth

It takes two to tango, although the more the better.

Are you actually going to suggest that our cold-war wasn't mutually
orchestrated, and thus wasn't perpetrated for government job security
and the profits taken by those playing along?
. - Brad Guth

Dale Carlson

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On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:10:25 -0500, J Waggoner <jwa...@alltel.net>
wrote:

>Frankly if you want to embarrass yourself go ahead. The Chinese


>certainly haven't come out and said we didn't land either. and in 1968
>BEFORE Nixon visited were supporting the North Vietnamese....
>
>So are you saying NASA duped Mao Tse Dung and Leonid Breshnev ?
>
>AND ANSWER THAT QUESTION DON"T AVOID IT :))

Geez, Adlai, chill.... :)

Scott Hedrick

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"J Waggoner" <jwa...@alltel.net> wrote in message
news:mmpbu39qqthcth8jj...@4ax.com...

> Take note. For you "Apollo landings were a hoax" believers LROC's
> sightseeing abilities should set the record straight.

Why? They'll claim those images were faked as well.

Don't make the assumption that *data* is the issue here. They have *faith*
that the moon landings were a hoax, and any data to the contrary is
obviously faked.


** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

BradGuth

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On Apr 25, 9:03 pm, "Scott Hedrick" <dinehnmNOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "J Waggoner" <jwag...@alltel.net> wrote in message

Now you are being such a silly brown-nosed minion of DARPA (aka
Semitic Third Reich). Why the hell would such multiple forms of
independently peer replicated science be thought of as bogus?

You must have been thinking of those bogus Muslim WMD, because that's
the whole truth and nothing but the truth that you can take to any one
of your offshore bank accounts, that which directly benefit from the
artificially inflated $120/barrel of bloody crude oil, and otherwise
favor the systematic global screwing of humanity and trashing of our
badly failing environment at the same time.
. - Brad Guth

BradGuth

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Why is this good topic getting ready to fall off the edge of Earth (so
to speak)?

Where's all of the Usenet/newsgroup spunk?
. - Brad Guth


On Apr 26, 10:51 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 25, 9:03 pm, "Scott Hedrick" <dinehnmNOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > "J Waggoner" <jwag...@alltel.net> wrote in message
>
> >news:mmpbu39qqthcth8jj...@4ax.com...
>

> > > Take note. For you "Apollolandings were ahoax" believers LROC's


> > > sightseeing abilities should set the record straight.
>
> > Why? They'll claim those images were faked as well.
>
> > Don't make the assumption that *data* is the issue here. They have *faith*

> > that themoonlandings were ahoax, and any data to the contrary is

BradGuth

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On Apr 25, 9:03 pm, "Scott Hedrick" <dinehnmNOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "J Waggoner" <jwag...@alltel.net> wrote in message
>
> news:mmpbu39qqthcth8jj...@4ax.com...
>
> > Take note. For you "Apollolandings were ahoax" believers LROC's

> > sightseeing abilities should set the record straight.
>
> Why? They'll claim those images were faked as well.
>
> Don't make the assumption that *data* is the issue here. They have *faith*
> that themoonlandings were ahoax, and any data to the contrary is
> obviously faked.

You know darn good and will that such is not the case, never has
been.
. - BG

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