While so thoughtlessly moving from one end of the gigantic droplet
into another end of it, this natural "liquid computer" (made of
counter-matter) kept learning. After all, counter-matter is an
intelligent liquid. This learning resulted in various kinds of
"natural programs" being formed inside of the memory of this counter-
matter. (This memory for programs and data, which is contained inside
of intelligent counter-matter, in fact forms still another separate
world, called the "virtual world". That another "virtual world",
together with the separate "counter-world" in which this counter-
matter prevails, and also together with our "physical world", is one
amongst three different worlds that exist separately in the present
universe. In other words, our present universe is composed of three
separate components, namely (1) "counter-world", (2) "virtual world",
and (3) "physical world" – which functions are very similar to (1)
hardware, (2) software, and (3) peripherals from modern computers.)
These first natural programs that appeared in memory of the
intelligent counter-matter started to gain self-awareness. Means, they
started to know that they do exist and that they are they. They also
learned how to move inside of counter-matter. They gained the means to
instigate counter-matter in which they resided into carrying out any
motion that they wanted. Therefore these natural programs that
eventuated inside of counter-matter gradually formed a kind of self-
aware creatures. Only that these creatures had no body, but simply
were programs that resided in the natural "liquid computer" formed
from the intelligent counter-matter. So these programs could be called
"spiritual beings". With the elapse of time these spiritual beings
mutually learned about the existence of other beings similar to
themselves. A competition started between them. This competition
gradually converted into a fight. In this fight only one program was
the winner, which managed to destroy, or absorb, all other programs
similar to itself. This only remaining program which survived from
times of these fights, is present God. So the superior being which
currently is called God, is simply a single huge self-aware program
which in a natural manner self-evolved in the "virtual world" that
exists inside of the intelligent counter-matter.
After God self-evolved in the counter-matter in the manner described
above, He learned how to control the behaviours of this "liquid
computer" (i.e. counter-matter) in which He resided. But the lonely
existence induced in Him the longing for creating from this counter-
matter another intelligent creatures which would be made on His image,
but which would also be inferior towards Him - so that they would not
compete with Him and He would not need to fight with them.
Furthermore, this lonely God soon discovered that His capability to
learn are also limited - means when acting alone He is NOT able to
learn and discover as much as He would be able when He acts in a
larger group. In this manner He come to the idea of creating our
"physical world", and creating a physical image of Himself - means
creating the man.
In order to create our "physical world" and man, this software God
(which just evolved in the "liquid computer" called the "counter-
matter") completed 6-phases long process of creation, which is briefly
summarised in the Bible (see the Book of Genesis, 1:1-31).
Unfortunately, the biblical description of the process of creation
uses a very archaic language, and also is very brief. For example, in
times when it was written, by the word "earth" was understood both all
the "chemical elements" as well as "soil". In turn the world "water"
was then describing the extraordinary liquid from the counter-world,
which the abovementioned "theory of everything" called the "Concept of
Dipolar Gravity" calls the "counter-matter", as well as the real
"water" from our physical world. In the biblical descriptions the same
words are used in various sentences in such drastically different
meanings. Therefore, in order to really understand how the creation of
the physical world and man was carried out by God, it is necessary to
translate biblical descriptions into the present scientific
terminology. This translation is published on the abovementioned web
page named "dipolar_gravity.htm" (about the "theory of everything"
called the "Concept of Dipolar Gravity" - see in there "part #I"), as
well as in the web page named "evolution.htm" (several Internet
addresses of which are indicated below - see in there items #B5 and
#B6). Even more thoroughly the creation of the "physical world" and
man by God is described in subsections I1.3 to I1.6 of the scientific
monograph which carries the following editorial data: Pajak Jan,
"Intelligent virtual world in the Concept of Dipolar Gravity", ISBN
978-1-877458-85-9, Wellington, New Zealand 2007, 162 pages. Copies of
this monograph can be reviewed via the National Library of New
Zealand, as well as via Internet where these copies can be downloaded
free of charge from the totaliztic web pages named "text_1_5.htm" and
available at Internet addresses indicated below. But because the
reader may not have an easy access to this separate web pages and
monographs, below is provided a brief explanation of principles which
God used while creating the physical world and man. So here is a brief
description of principles on which the software God created the
"physical world" from the programmable "liquid computer" in memory of
which God resides. These principles are described here with the use of
present terminology (the same principles are also described in the
Bible, but with the use of ancient terminology).
Counter-matter is an intelligent everlasting liquid, which exists
infinitively long, and which is in perpetual motion. So it was
necessary that God transformed this counter-matter in such a manner,
that it would displays attributes which are exactly opposite to
natural attributes of this extraordinary "liquid computer". Therefore
these natural programs which God then developed, needed to cause such
behaviour of the counter-matter, that attributes of this liquid were
reversed into exactly opposite ones. The effect of reversing of
attributes of counter-matter God accomplished through such re-
programming this liquid substance, that it formed two opposite kinds
of semi-permanent "whirls". These whirls are described under the names
of "low-pressure whirls" and "high-pressure whirls" on separate web
pages about hurricanes and about tornados (see totaliztic web pages
"hurricane.htm" or "tornado.htm"), as well as in subsection H4.2 from
volume 4 of monograph [1/5] (available free of charge from the web
page "text_1_5.htm"). Due to such a reprogramming, the continually
moving counter-matter formed semi-permanent objects in the form of
such "whirls". In turn from these "whirls" controlled by such natural
programs created by God, liquid counter-matter which obeyed these
programs formed semi-permanent "objects" representing all chemical
elements (means "earth" - as in old terminology these elements were
called in the Bible), and also software "objects" which represented
all basic phenomena of the physical world (means - mainly various
kinds of electromagnetic radiation, or "light" - as it was called in
the Bible). Thus "earth" and "light" were formed from such natural
programs and from counter-matter which implemented commands contained
in these programs. These "objects" are simply natural programs and
appropriate clusters of "whirls" of liquid counter-matter which
implement the content of these programs. Their description is
provided, amongst others, in item #G4 on the web page about the
"theory of everything" called the "Concept of Dipolar Gravity" (see
the web page "dipolar_gravity.htm"), and also on a separate web page
about "time vehicles" (see the totaliztic web page "timevehicle.htm"),
where these objects are explained as basic components of the so-called
"space time". In general, these "objects" can be compared to objects
from present OOP (i.e. "Object-Oriented Programming"), e.g. to an
object of a "button" which appears on the screen of our computer. This
is because these "objects" are very similar to such computer images
(e.g. the image of a "button"). For example, on a computer screen such
a "button" look as if it is a solid form, on which one can implement
various manipulations, e.g. can shift it into a different area of the
screen, change colour of it, enlarge or shrink it, etc. But in reality
this button is still a program and an image formed by this program
with the computer's hardware. Similarly these "objects" formed from
natural programs contained in the counter-matter, and from images
formed by hardware attributes of this "counter-matter", also look as
if they are solid, they can be subjected to manipulation and shifting,
etc. On such principles God created everything that we see around us.
Thus we can say, that "everything that we can see in the entire
universe, represents just another one amongst countless manifestations
of the counter-matter and manifestations of natural programs which
shape this counter-matter into specific forms and features". In the
light of such creation of the world, we humans are mainly "natural
programs" (in religions called "souls"), with a bit of "liquid
computer" (means "counter-matter") which is shaped by these programs
into human forms - for details see item #B from the web page
There are numerous implications of this extraordinary self-evolution
of God, as described above. These are currently investigated by the
most moral philosophy of the world named "totalizm", as well as
investigated by this "theory of everything" called the "Concept of
Dipolar Gravity". (Notice that the philosophy of "totalizm" mentioned
in this post is spelled with "z", not "s", to distinguish this new
moral and progressive philosophy from a version of an old reactionary
"totalitarianism" which sometimes is also called "totalism" - but
spelled with "s".) One such implication worth mentioning here is that
according to data contained in the Bible, God evolved fairly recently
because only around 6000 years ago. So by standards that can be
applied to God, our God is really a "youngster" - means a Godly
equivalent of a human "teenager". In turn a consequence that our God
is so "young", is that He still likes to "play jokes" on people, has
enormous sense of humour, and that He still is learning (means that He
is still "imperfect" when analysed according to God's standards -
although when looking at God from point of view of the human
standards, His knowledge is larger than the total knowledge of all
people taken together - thus by us people He can also be called
"perfect"). About the fact that God still likes to "play jokes" on
people, in the best way certifies the fact that He created the
"physical world" in such a manner as if it existed already for around
14 billions years (although God "fabricated" this old age of the
universe for a purpose - e.g. to inspire human scientists to seek the
truth - for details see item #A2 on the web page "evolution.htm", or
see the Google discussion thread
). Another implication of just such origins and composition of God, as
described above, is the extraordinary accuracy and wisdom with which
this God describes Himself in the Bible. As we remember, the Bible
states that although there is one God, this single God is composed of
the "Holy Trinity", means composed of the (1) God Father, (2) Holy
Ghost, and (3) God Son. (Notice that in some parts of the Bible "God
Father" seems to also be called "The Ancient of Days" - e.g. see
Daniel 7:9, 7:13, and 7:22.) In turn when we review the course of self-
evolution of God determined by the "Concept of Dipolar Gravity" and
described above, actually this "liquid computer" called the "counter-
matter" really displays all the attributes of the "God Father" as well
as attributes of the everlasting "Ancient of Days". In turn the
software God that self-evolved only around 6000 years ago inside the
counter-matter, really corresponds to the Christian idea of "Holy
Ghost". Finally the "physical world" that God created by appropriate
pre-programming the "liquid-computer" (i.e. "counter-matter")
excellently corresponds to the Biblical idea of the "God Son". The
young age of God (thus His relative imperfection according to God’s
standards, and His need to learn) explains also many phenomena which
we see around us, such as suffering, problems, imperfections of the
physical world, etc. - for details see the Google discussion thread
The above explanations are adopted from items #B1, #B5, and #B6 of the
totaliztic web page named "evolution.htm", update of 21 December 2008,
or of any later date. This web page should be available, amongst
others, on following web site authorised by the philosophy of
totalizm: http://members.fortunecity.com/timevehicle/evolution.htm ,
(and several others).
It is also worth to notice that practically every web site authorised
by the philosophy of totalizm contains all totaliztic web pages.
Therefore independently from the above web page "evolution.htm", each
address indicated here should also offer all other totaliztic web
pages, the names of which are mentioned in this post. Thus, if someone
wishes to view descriptions from any other totaliztic web page, e.g.
from a web page named in text of this post, or listed in other
totaliztic posts, then in the above addresses the name "evolution.htm"
is just enough to exchange for a name of the web page that he or she
wishes to view, e.g. for the name of web page "dipolar_gravity.htm",
"text_1_5.htm", "oscillatory_chamber.htm", "eco_cars.htm",
"boiler.htm", "fe_cell.htm", "free_energy.htm", "telekinetics.htm",
"nirvana.htm", "totalizm.htm", "god.htm", "god_proof.htm",
"bible.htm", "immortality.htm", etc.
I should mention here, that there are also "blogs of totalizm" which
frequently discuss, amongst others, scientific evidence for the
existence of God, methods utilised by God to control people, evolution
of God, creation of man, etc. Readers can find these blogs at
addresses: http://totalizm.wordpress.com , http://www.getablog.net/totalizm
, http://totalizm.blox.pl/html, http://totalizm.myblog.net or
http://www.newfreehost.com/weblog/?u=god - for example see over there
162E, 158E, 157E, 148E, 147E, 139E, 136E, 135E, or 134E.
With the totaliztic salute,
P.S. The text of the above post is also open for the discussion at
another forum named "nation master", where it is accessible at the
following address: http://www.nationmaster.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=19713&sid=e622f417f956d21b14aca5a37a9f810a
>....just an emptiness with infinitive dimensions.....
>....emptiness of the universe of infinitive dimensions...
...and so on with "infinitive."
You do realize, you knucklehead, that
an "infinitive" is a name for certain
verb forms as described by grammar?
What you want here is simply
How can anyone as stupid as you are
even operate a computer? Maybe
you're napping too much under that
Disney tree you claim proves the
existence of Dobbs?
Maybe he find solace in the Blue Screen of Death.
>Extremely long, long ago, there was no Earth, no Sun, no matter, no
>physical world, and even no time in the form as we know it. The entire
>universe was then just an emptiness with infinitive dimensions.
"Donaldson's Law (which I formulated back in
my teaching days) states that *bad* is
objective but *good* is subjective. If writing
or storytelling are *bad*, their badness can be
demonstrated, even proven. But as soon as we
move into the realm of *good* writing or
storytelling, any individual reader's reaction
will be almost exclusively a matter of taste."
Stephen R. Donaldson, "Gradual Interview"
"I'm a storyteller, not a polemicist."
Stephen R. Donaldson, "Gradual Interview"
Actually he documents the source well enough at least for
alt.philosophy. He has links to the domain you mentioned and often, if
you are reading newsgroups by way of Google when the message is very
long they snip part of it and make a link to "read more". If the
author's links are below that point, any resolution that his links are
not present is defeated.
>On Jan 6, 6:24 pm, MalKantent <malen...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:20:24 -0800 (PST), janpa...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >Extremely long, long ago, there was no Earth, no Sun, no matter, no
>> >physical world, and even no time in the form as we know it. The entire
>> >universe was then just an emptiness with infinitive dimensions.
>> Plagiarized fromhttp://totalizm.wordpress.com/2007/04/08/117e-the-evolution-of-god-an...
>Actually he documents the source well enough at least for
>alt.philosophy. He has links to the domain you mentioned and often, if
>you are reading newsgroups by way of Google when the message is very
>long they snip part of it and make a link to "read more". If the
>author's links are below that point, any resolution that his links are
>not present is defeated.
I'm not using google groups.
I agree in that he posted a link to the original site, but not to the
page containing the original version. The original is found at the
link I gave, it is not the one he gave at the end of his post. This
version was changed from the original in a small way.
Maybe it was that splitting of the infinitive that made everything
happen, you know, like that well known split infinitive "to boldly go
where no man has gone before", have you seen the trouble that one gets
the crew of the Enterprise into every week? :P
"Words are flowing out like endless rain into a paper cup.
They slither while they pass, they make their way across the Universe
(out to the causal horizon, that is.)"
> Extremely long, long ago, there was...a gigantic droplet of
> extraordinary "liquid" called "counter-matter".
...humm, let's see, yes, the question is: what was the ordinary liquid
long, long ago and gigantic as compared to what?
> the "Concept of Dipolar Gravity"
[snip 250 lines of crap]
Hey stoooopid - dipole interaction varies as 1/r^3. Gravitation is
Well, yes, we know that what Jan posted is also also on that totalizm
blog, but since that blog is Jan's own blog he is not guilty of plagiarism.
Yes, his stuff is arrant kookery but a plagiarist he is not.
A plagiarist he is not -- in _this_ case.
However, he reproduced an image of a Disney exhibition
called "The Tree of Life," which is located in Epcot Center,
claiming it is some tree in India, and proceeded to claim
that it is proof of the existence of God. Kookery? Indeed!
I can see your point. Sometimes I combine wiki entries but give the
links. When I add something for consistency I put the brackets 
around it but the sentence seems to move smoothly. I think the authors
insertion should only rely be a problem if he is intentionally trying
to hide something or influence and argument beyond the original
authors intent. All this should follow the ideas of already
I'm sure you do all those things. However, this guy posted a long
boring nothing, copied from a blog, plagiarized from a website while
changing one small thing, perhaps to make it appear original, perhaps
for some other reason.
I agree that could could be used as a clear case of what your saying
but I think that when this subject comes up, most of the time there
has been no conversation about "quoting" in general. As I was saying
somewhere that good non-fiction prose is really just a long string of
quotes with a narrative weaved in between them. At a more extreme
level some books consist of nothing but quotes while yet other books
pile quotes into subject areas. Some are so good at this that they
never speak as narrator but the various authors quoted are connected
so well that is seems as if there is a narrator.
Aren't you just blurring distinctions the way a lot of posters do