More About Tarot : http://groups.google.com/group/tarotlem
So buying a deck of tarot cards is going to turn you into someone
who can perceive things not visible to the physical senses?
Bullshit. What a complete waste of time. Such abilities can be
developed, but they have nothing to do with anything physical.
And believing that tarot cards or crystal balls or tea leaves
or chicken entrails (ad infinitum) have anything to do with
it will do nothing but slow you down or completely retard
their development.
Just as important is the elitism cultivated by these practices.
The enlightened idea is to help people develop their own magickal/psychic
abilities, not pretend that you have some special abilities they
don't have so you can charge them money for (allegedly) using them.
All the 'psychic' is doing, if they are doing anything but running
a scam or deluding themselves and others, is reading the mind of
their client. They should be teaching the clients to read their
own minds.
Sid
--
Sidney Lambe
Wiccan Priest and Apprentice Magician
http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb
usenet4444 (at) gmail (dot) com
> So buying a deck of tarot cards is going to turn you into someone
> who can perceive things not visible to the physical senses?
> [...]
> All the 'psychic' is doing, if they are doing anything but
> running a scam or deluding themselves and others, is
> reading the mind of their client.
Such willful ignorance, Sidney, shows you have never studied
any such system, whether Tarot or the plain card-reading (52-
card deck) or the runes or the coins or yarrow-sticks of I Ching.
None of these involve, require, or develop mind-reading. What
they do involve is reading the pattern of a story, off the pages
spread out in front of you. It is very literally a reading skill.
Take your meds, Sidney!
> And believing that tarot cards or crystal balls or tea leaves
> or chicken entrails (ad infinitum) have anything to do with
> it will do nothing but slow you down or completely retard
> their development.
You know, Sid, I think you are onto something here. Care to expand on
that a little?
> Wiccan Priest and Apprentice Magician
Does this mean that Wiccans are wannabee magicians of High Magick?
Sort of like a class system is it? Like I am Brahma and you are ...
untouchable? Yes, I think so.
check out my Magicians Surgical Workshop: archangels, healing,
personal Tarot card and some definitions of 3 common cards. Plus some
Occult oil paintings,
http://bloomingdales1383.tripod.com/pulp/headshop.html
or this arcane tale of the unforlonrn traveller, a story which Brother
Blue Resonant Human who posts here on occasion seems to plaigiarise /
tribute as You Will in his postings:
Or stick your thumb up your ass and twirl on it. This will be just
as useful.
[delete]
Sid
--
Sidney Lambe
Wiccan Priest and Apprentice Magician
Howdy salsufy. When you are perceiving things with other than the
physical senses, you are using what could be called the inner senses.
These belong to the inner self and the physical senses are 'translations'
of a small part of what they perceive.
The inner senses exist completely independently of physical reality.
Hallucinogens give you scattered and usually useless and often
injurious direct experiences with them.
'Meditation' is the way to approach learning to use them.
Nothing is required here but your own consciousness and there
isn't any physical object that has anything to do with using
them.
>> Wiccan Priest and Apprentice Magician
>
> Does this mean that Wiccans are wannabee magicians of High Magick?
> Sort of like a class system is it? Like I am Brahma and you are ...
> untouchable? Yes, I think so.
I would tend to agree. Wiccans, and all the 'neo-pagans' are
role-players. They can't do any magick at all. They just pretend
they can. I call this the "Neo-Pagan Pact", which goes: "I will
pretend you are a real magician if you will pretend I am".
Sid
--
Sidney Lambe
Wiccan Priest and Apprentice Magician
Hi Sid, thanks for the deep insight. I am sure you have much to share
with me.
> Wiccan Priest
I am impressed with you being a Wiccan Priest. Does this make you the
head of a Coven?
they are from a website from when i was doing that all the time and
garnering mystical knowledge with a thumb up my ass and twirling on
it.
i think interpreting Tarot is very much a 1 person reading to oneself
process. you cannot 'read' the future or gain powers like ESP from
interpreting for others. Its like reading a book or creating art, so i
made my own tarot Wounded Negro and Waterbearer and The Allah (Carrion
BirD) and interpreted 3 traditional ones. Completely without any
knowledge of classical or crowleys Tarot - it was hit or miss and i
guess it was a "miss" as far as Sid Lambe is concerned. After all i AM
AN APPRENTICE magician to. Now,,,,, TWIIIIIIIIRL! Here is a website on
Hawk-Wind: enjoy new knowledge http://bloomingdales1383.tripod.com/hawkwind.html
Elkie
I am impressed with you being a Wiccan Priest. Does this make you the
head of a Coven?
On Jan 23, 6:01 PM: Sidney Lambe <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
"Got all the stuff together. Athame and altar cloth and censer and
incense and candles and salt and water and cakes and wine and...
Studied the entire ritual carefully. Got a good handle
on casting a circle and consecrating it. Practiced those
two rituals several times.
I do not know what my sacred name will be. The gods will tell me tomorrow.
Took all day. The first time through the ritual didn't go well and
I didn't get a name, so I moved to another location and did it all
over.
I am now the Ordained Wiccan Priest "Evergreen".
Sid"
---
Shake 'n bake; it's not just for porkcops but, serves lambchops as well.
>the unmenschionable elk hound wrote:
>>Sidney Lame wrote:
>> Or stick your thumb up your ass and twirl on it. This will be just
>> as useful.
> Now,,,,, TWIIIIIIIIRL! Here is a website on
> Hawk-Wind: enjoy new knowledge http://bloomingdales1383.tripod.com/hawkwind.html
>
> Elkie
Sid wouldn't know 'new' if it stuck its thumb up Sid's ass and twirled
him on it.
Steve Pond's ICU site... cute, Joe. I have emailed back and forth with
both Steve Pond and Trev Thoms of ICU / in fact enjoying their company
and music on the various Hawkwind related email lists in existence
since 1996. Elkie
> Studied the entire ritual carefully. Got a good handle
> on casting a circle and consecrating it. Practiced those
> two rituals several times.
>
> I do not know what my sacred name will be. The gods will tell me tomorrow.
>
LOLOLOL! stop, it's too much! :)
Nik Turner's "Forbidden Planet" - the lyrics are all about getting
high on crystals and general druidry. Real mystical! Now to dig out
those fantastic 1978 Sphynx demos!
why do you keep advertising here?
Jetzt hasst du eine platte Nase!
auto translated in google to norsk bokmål.
Norsk! Speak Norsk! Syd Snakker Norsk! med google er ALT MULIG!
I don't know much, but what I know I actually _know_. I speak from
experience, not from google searches. I have a teacher who can
actually do magick, not just spew psuedo-esoteric bullshit on
the internet or the local public forest.
>> Wiccan Priest
>
> I am impressed with you being a Wiccan Priest. Does this make you the
> head of a Coven?
No. I am what is called a "solitaire priest" by some. I just did the study
and preparations for a self-initiation ritual and then the ritual
itself.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/browse_thread/thread/b0838c6f5d524926?q=
In Wicca, everyone is supposedly a "priest", which is just more of
the self/group-deception these 'neo-pagan' psuedo-religions thrive
on. We call our real priests "clergy".
Note that I don't even read the posts of the shit-for-brains troll
who infests alt.religion.wicca. It has a lot names, like "sarchasm"
and "hope" and "goldenheart" and so forth. A real loser. I suspect
that it is actually ren (the cheap charlatan and vicious troll who
thinks he owns alt.religion.wicca): , because 'normal' trolls don't
hang around for six months when their target doesn't feed them:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/710dc35380ae361d
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/e71094ef5f99c2fc
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/bddb8c59f894a2a5
> I don't know much,
A red-letter day for my calendar: Sidney said A True Thing!
> but what I know I actually _know_.
Oh, well. One step forward, one step back.
Especially given the blithe ignorance in his first post above.
> I speak from experience, not from google searches.
But Sidney, what Tarot readings have you yourself done?
You dismiss the whole idea as a "complete waste of time".
So your "experience" in the subject consists of... what?
> I have a teacher who can actually do magick,
That's nice.
For your teacher.
It says nothing whatsoever for you.
> not just spew psuedo-esoteric bullshit on
> the internet or the local public forest.
You keep using that prefix "psuedo-", Sidney.
And you keep getting reminded that it's "pseudo-".
And you keep ignoring the correction, because
whatever other people have to say to you, you
don't know, and you don't care, and it couldn't
possibly matter to you.
And the cumulative outcome is that you seem
incorrigibly ignorant, incurably ignorant, so set
in your mistakes that dynamite couldn't dislodge
you from them. Congratulations. I can't imagine
a worse curse to impose upon any human being.
> I have a teacher who can actually do magick...
> I am what is called a "solitaire priest" by some.
> I just did the study and preparations for a
> self-initiation ritual and then the ritual itself.
now let us all meditate deeply on the above.
ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
are there any questions from the class?
um... umm... sensei?
yes, bueller?
why didn't his teacher initiate him?
because his teacher had better SENSE!
>LOLOLOL! stop, it's too much! :)
>
Ever since his shake 'n bake 'initiation', sidiot has been whining to the
effect of "respect mah authority" even more than before it.
During the several months following sidiot's claim, there is no evidence
presented to support it. That claim, like sidiot's other spurious claims,
can be disregarded as false.
>
>> I am what is called a "solitaire priest" by some.
>
No, sidiot merely emulated a 'ritual', completely by rote, and believes
that's all there is to it in order to be a nefarious agent provocateur.
>
>> I just did the study and preparations for a
>> self-initiation ritual and then the ritual itself.
>
... In two days, with no prior preparation, sidiot pretended to bake a fake
cake for his wake via recipe.
>
> now let us all meditate deeply on the above.
>
> ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
>
> are there any questions from the class?
>
> um... umm... sensei?
>
> yes, bueller?
>
> why didn't his teacher initiate him?
>
> because his teacher had better SENSE!
>
Occam might say that the reason is that sidiot has no teacher.
That could actually be taken as a reading kinder and gentler to him.
No teacher means no judgment was rendered. He merely lied.
But if he told the truth about having had a teacher -- then that
teacher did not find him worthy to lead through any initiation.
And he seems not to realize that this follows from his own tale.
As with his blithe concessions of guilt in his schemes to spam
anonymous email about whatever stalking info he digs up, or
his sheer unawareness of the track record of malevolence he
has left anyone who cares to cite it on the question of "who's
the real troll here?" -- the dunce has walked around with his
pants around his ankles so long they've been worn to rags.
And all the people shouting at him to pull them up -- well,
he didn't know what they said, he didn't care, it couldn't
possibly matter to him, whatever it was couldn't hurt him.
there's an international correspondence course in full enlightenment
beginning on line. that will eliminate the pretenders.
> there's an international correspondence course in full enlightenment
> beginning on line. that will eliminate the pretenders.
ah, yes;
i scanned it clairvoyantly.
passed, of course.
but then it wasn't quite fair of me:
i'd reviewed gautama buddha's
cheat sheets in the back drawers
before taking the finals.
Of course it will.
> >there's an international correspondence course in full enlightenment
> >beginning on line. that will eliminate the pretenders.
>
> Of course it will.
according to akashic records,
it already has.
or is doing so right now.
or... mmph. sorry.
must get eyeglasses cleaned.
temporal imprecision so frustrating.
>No teacher means no judgment was rendered. He merely lied.
>
Could be both. sidiot has shown that he lies often. Then again, his
alleged teacher could have found sidiot lacking in potential and is leaving
him at the "apprentice" stage, for ever.
>
>But if he told the truth about having had a teacher -- then that
>teacher did not find him worthy to lead through any initiation.
>
Which may account for his going rogue and pretending to 'self-initiate',
(i.e., pee on a tree).
>
>And he seems not to realize that this follows from his own tale.
>
Whether or not sidiot has 'killfiled' himself can only be a speculation at
this point.
>
>As with his blithe concessions of guilt in his schemes to spam
>anonymous email about whatever stalking info he digs up, or
>his sheer unawareness of the track record of malevolence he
>has left anyone who cares to cite it on the question of "who's
>the real troll here?" -- the dunce has walked around with his
>pants around his ankles so long they've been worn to rags.
>
You forgot the part where sidiot pretends to fabricate a 'boogieman' so that
he can "protect" the "youngsters" from him(self). This claim of sidiot's is
easily dismissed; how many "youngsters" have been thusly protected - none?
>
>And all the people shouting at him to pull them up -- well,
>he didn't know what they said, he didn't care, it couldn't
>possibly matter to him, whatever it was couldn't hurt him.
>
Since sidiot pretends not to read posted content, there's no problem
observing that sidiot's own words "hurt" him much more than anything others
have written so far. As they say, sidiot is his own worst enemy.
There is no Fate
so, I can't be late;
Besides, it's barely Now
so, I'd be early;
if applause preceded a bow.
i reckon he leaves it unlocked because he likes his students look
brighter (come the day his school is tested by the on line full
enlightenment course).
a little bit of excitement? :)
problems inherent to compression
of dimensions and scale,
inevitable once you consider:
universe too vast for any mortal to view,
nor can he perceive all its dimensions.
so for records to be shown, scale must
be compressed to fit range of action and
range of dimensions to what mortal can see.
huge spans of space and time are brought down
to brilliant intersecting planes and lines...
well, curved spaces and reimannian manifolds,
but stay with the simpler image for discussion...
and among these intricate jewel-like clockwork
images spinning around (for the dimensions are
only reduced to four) you must pick out what is
before, behind, between, above, below --
O my America! my new-found-land! --
and it is so dreadfully easy to get it wrong...
dr who didn't mean to land in america, and he didn't even want to know
it existed, yet in reality shit occurred?
he's the proud new owner of a scaled down expansion
Yes.
he's the proud new owner of a scaled down expansion
*****
Has he tried Viagria?
Wouldn't he need genitalia to be effected in order for that to work?
>Wouldn't he need genitalia to be effected in order for that to work?
>
sidiot <sidneyla...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
"I love you ren."
>
Eunuch said.
> "I love you ren."
>
>
>
> Eunuch said.
"I know." ~Han Solo in Star Wars 5 or that Princess chick in Star Wars
6
Ren wrote:
There's always Zorg in The 5th Element:
Cornelius: You're a monster, Zorg. Zorg: I know. ...
--
JL
>"I know." ~Han Solo in Star Wars 5 or that Princess chick in Star Wars 6
>
Try not to misquote me or, I may scramble yer brainz and make ya dance like
a puppet.
"Use The Force, puke!" ...or something like that...
> Try not to misquote me or,
> I may scramble yer brainz
> and make ya dance like a puppet.
back and forth
back and forth
back and forth
and side to side
back and forth
back and forth
back and forth
and side to side
back and forth
back and forth
back and forth
and side to side
[doctor steel!]
[doctor steel!]
[doctor steel!]
...
MmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmm........
...cannot get your poop out!
Use the Fiber, HELP you it can, yes!
the unmenschionable elk hound wrote:
> On 4 Mai, 23:51, Joseph Littleshoes <jpsti...@isp.com> wrote:
>
>>ÔøΩ>the unmenschionable elk hound wrote:
>>
>>ÔøΩ>>Sidney Lame wrote:
>>
>>ÔøΩ>> Or stick your thumb up your ass and twirl on it. This will be just
>>ÔøΩ>> as useful.
>>
>>
>>>Now,,,,, TWIIIIIIIIRL! Here is a website on
>>>Hawk-Wind: enjoy new knowledgehttp://bloomingdales1383.tripod.com/hawkwind.html
>>
>>>Elkie
>>
>>Sid wouldn't know 'new' if it stuck its thumb up Sid's ass and twirled
>>him on it.
>>
>>http://www.doremi.co.uk/icu/mp3/calvert/robot.mp3
>>--
>>JL
>
>
> Steve Pond's ICU site... cute, Joe. I have emailed back and forth with
> both Steve Pond and Trev Thoms of ICU / in fact enjoying their company
> and music on the various Hawkwind related email lists in existence
> since 1996. Elkie
Domine dirige nos:)
--
JL
> Try not to misquote me or, I may scramble yer brainz and make ya dance like
> a puppet.
You are well learned in the ways.
Or, the Fork, (because the roast is overdone).
> Do, or do not. There is no fry.
Except Sidney, who is small.
>Except Sidney, who is small.
>
And sidiot, who is a deep-fried 'dumbstick'.
He no doubt will "...find [our] lack of faith
diiisstuurrrrbiiingggg... !!"
>He no doubt will "...find [our] lack of faith diiisstuurrrrbiiingggg...
>!!"
>
Very likely, however, since I find sidiot's lack of reasoning ability just
as disturbing, it's square.
for da longest time i'd wondered 'bout
dis little guy, now i fine'ly found out
dis dark brown suit widda short cape
well, he was tryn'a join up widda big ape
-- i mean da superhero SIR -- kinda guys
downa block inna fancy club soarin inna skies
widda fancy logos onna chest
Ss bats lanterns an ya know da rest
well, dis guy tryn'a imitate his betters
got a logo with dese three distorted letters
like helmet and headphones near as i could see:
backwards B, downfaced C, forwards B.
asked him what dey were, he said dat's it:
BCB -- an it stands for Burnt Crunchy Bit.
scratched my head wondrin', den ask'd him why;
he said all his life dey always only ever called him
Small
Fry
Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
>
>
> Ren wrote:
>
>> On May 6, 8:46ÔøΩam, "sarchasm" wrote:
>>
>>
>>> "I love you ren."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Eunuch said.
>>
>>
>>
>> "I know." ~Han Solo in Star Wars 5 or that Princess chick in Star Wars
>> 6
>
>
>
> There's always Zorg in The 5th Element:
> Cornelius: You're a monster, Zorg. Zorg: I know. ...
> --
> JL
>
Hmmmmm......
http://droptrio.com/Music/other/ELP_KarnEvil9_3rdImpression.mp3
--
JL
Forks..(snicker) I am there well actually close by on a small island
rock
> Forks..(snicker) I am there well actually close by on a small island
> rock
Me too.
>Forks..(snicker) I am there well actually close by on a small island rock.
>
I hear it's nice out that way.
I _thought_ I recognized you. ;) That is why I had to change my plans.
Go away Michael and don't look when the chest is opened. Nikita is on
a dangerous mission! Remember, Everything I say is a lie and thats the
truth but I never lie to you unless I have to! I swear. Got it?
Quiet cept the rush of the waves hitting the cracks.. ;)
That can happen when one sits on the rocks, naked.
The patterns are there, for those who can read them. There is always more
to learn.
Except for Flamb�, who has her own fondue. ;>
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yessssssssssss...........
Sister Sizzle and her culinary delights! :P
Her? Thats funny
>
> > Except for Flambé, who has her own fondue. ;>
>
> Her? Thats funny
Yeah, it's making me feel all conflicted. ;-p
Enjoy the moments one way or another. My instincts say highly romantic
shy male that needs a veil. Sometimes that comes across to men as
being female based energy. I have been wrong before.
Interesting,....
>Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yessssssssssss...........
>Sister Sizzle and her culinary delights! :P
>
I hear the badger recipe is especially tasty.
>Her? Thats funny
>
It was a food pun, mainly.
>Yeah, it's making me feel all conflicted. ;-p
>
Mystery can cause goosebumbs. ;->
And getting goosed can make you bump your head! ;-p
> Enjoy the moments one way or another.
excellent advice.
> My instincts say highly romantic
thank you ever so. whenever the situation allows.
> shy
hmm. when i was younger, yes. have i reverted?
> male
given that the only actor i named for an avatar was
geoffrey rush, i would have thought this a gimmee,
but gender on the net is as mutable as species or
any other aspect of morphology. pete was singing
"ah sweet mystery of life at last i've found thee"
not long ago, which was "young frankenstein"'s
code for a female orgasm, so what did that mean?
> that needs a veil.
"needs"... not so much... but someday i may be
standing next to, say, a self-styled apprentice
something-or-other, and wouldn't it just be a
pity if i'd given out a detailed description of me
beforehand? no, no, we should get a fresh start.
> Sometimes that comes across to men as
> being female based energy.
that's fair. makes for a balanced human being.
> I have been wrong before.
that's also fair. human beings don't all fit
nice neat templates. how ghastly if they did!
I have my moments.
>
> > My instincts say highly romantic
>
> thank you ever so. whenever the situation allows.<
That is where the line blurs between online personality & true
personality. This is the fork in the road you and I go our seperate
ways that puts us on different roads for the next paragraph.
> > shy
>
> hmm. when i was younger, yes. have i reverted?<
I am speaking of a possibility of your true personality being shy. You
are choosing your online personality to represent the real you.
There are a few of us that represent the real us and then there are
the majority that have a personality online that fall flat real life.
I tend to meet flowery romantic men on the Internet that cannot do
much more then fart a response when you meet them offline.
>
> > male<
>
> given that the only actor i named for an avatar was
> geoffrey rush, i would have thought this a gimmee,
> but gender on the net is as mutable as species or
> any other aspect of morphology. pete was singing
> "ah sweet mystery of life at last i've found thee"
> not long ago, which was "young frankenstein"'s
> code for a female orgasm, so what did that mean?<
That is a given that it does not mean squat, however the mind of a
woman rarely would pick geoffery rush even trying to hide their true
identitiy. As a male a female would still normally show vanity.
Usually.
> > that needs a veil.
>
> "needs"... not so much... but someday i may be
> standing next to, say, a self-styled apprentice
> something-or-other, and wouldn't it just be a
> pity if i'd given out a detailed description of me
> beforehand? no, no, we should get a fresh start.<
Why? What are you hiding?
>
> > Sometimes that comes across to men as
> > being female based energy.
>
> that's fair. makes for a balanced human being.<
Not always balanced. I disagree. Balanced human beings come from the
understanding, compassion, empathy and the ability to communicate and
support opposit gender energy. Not having to have them both in you
equally. I think the Yin Yang has been messed with.
> > I have been wrong before.
>
> that's also fair. human beings don't all fit
> nice neat templates. how ghastly if they did!<
Gosh ya Beav..how ghastly
umm... thus: enjoy them. one way or another.
> > > My instincts say highly romantic
>
> > thank you ever so. whenever the situation allows.<
>
> That is where the line blurs between online personality & true
> personality. This is the fork in the road you and I go our seperate
> ways that puts us on different roads for the next paragraph.
when i'm on foot near a crosswalk, not quite ready to go through,
i'll gesture a waiting car to go ahead with a sweeping cavalier bow.
i may not be dressed in the grand style at the time, but i do enjoy
showing the courtesies to everyone (and seeing the grins in return).
now you've seen enough of my songs, i think, to well believe that
i can be a credible troubadour, so the manners go along with that.
and has there ever been a troubadour who was not a romantic?
> > > shy
>
> > hmm. when i was younger, yes. have i reverted?<
>
> I am speaking of a possibility of your true personality being shy. You
> are choosing your online personality to represent the real you.
> There are a few of us that represent the real us and then there are
> the majority that have a personality online that fall flat real life.
>
> I tend to meet flowery romantic men on the Internet that cannot do
> much more then fart a response when you meet them offline.
fair enough. i'll not boast. the proof's in the pudding.
> > > male<
>
> > given that the only actor i named for an avatar was
> > geoffrey rush, i would have thought this a gimmee,
> > but gender on the net is as mutable as species or
> > any other aspect of morphology. pete was singing
> > "ah sweet mystery of life at last i've found thee"
> > not long ago, which was "young frankenstein"'s
> > code for a female orgasm, so what did that mean?<
>
> That is a given that it does not mean squat, however the mind of a
> woman rarely would pick geoffery rush even trying to hide their true
> identitiy. As a male a female would still normally show vanity.
> Usually.
>
> > > that needs a veil.
>
> > "needs"... not so much... but someday i may be
> > standing next to, say, a self-styled apprentice
> > something-or-other, and wouldn't it just be a
> > pity if i'd given out a detailed description of me
> > beforehand? no, no, we should get a fresh start.<
>
> Why? What are you hiding?
when i meet sid? a very very big empty chum bucket.
> > > Sometimes that comes across to men as
> > > being female based energy.
>
> > that's fair. makes for a balanced human being.<
>
> Not always balanced. I disagree. Balanced human beings come from the
> understanding, compassion, empathy and the ability to communicate and
> support opposit gender energy. Not having to have them both in you
> equally. I think the Yin Yang has been messed with.
i didn't say anything about "equally". above you mentioned
"sometimes".
> > > I have been wrong before.
>
> > that's also fair. human beings don't all fit
> > nice neat templates. how ghastly if they did!<
>
> Gosh ya Beav..how ghastly
think of "a wrinkle in time" at the shadowed planet where
every house was just alike and every family was just alike
and at every home one boy the same age the same looks
was bouncing one ball to the exact same rhythm...........
>And getting goosed can make you bump your head! ;-p
>
True but, not much mystery in that. ;}
Shows what you know. I've bumped my head on some interesting
things. ;-p
>Shows what you know. I've bumped my head on some interesting
>things. ;-p
>
You got me there, however, were they mysteious things? ;>
Erm, where to start?
Firstly, please read the alt.tarot FAQ before posting
here. What news there has been recently has been
sparse, but you are indeed right that Wicca is one
of the religions which the UK Prison sector will allow
inmates to own a tarot deck for the practice of.
I'm a little uncertain quite what it has to do with
willowcraft myself, from which one can manufacture
all manner of useful objects--baskets for plants or
pets, chairs and sofas, and also cricket bats.
Perhaps because of the occulted cultures of
gang-involvement and alpha-rivalry in such dens
of incarcertation, yea, even amongst the women
as anyone who watched the Australian Network
7 long-running drama "Prisoner, Cell Block H"
will know, there is a very real risk that in the hands
of "spades-types" - as the Dee taxonomy would
have it - "readings" for spiritual development may
have an undercurrent of informal punishment or
other reprisals.
And as gaming isn't the first pursuit of many of
the observant celebrants at, say, Stonehenge
on Solstice morn, this firmly marks out the tarot
as having official recognition as a textbook of
teachings, at least, since AE Waite and others
grafted Masonic and Golden Dawn symbology
and, to a greater or lesser extent, associated
morals into the deck. At least as far as the UK
Prison Sector goes.
What's interesting is that, if I recall correctly,
Thelema - for which the Thoth Tarot was designed
as a textbook - doesn't figure in the official version
but for some reason Wicca does.
Quite where Vodoun and suchlike fall is anyone's
guess. And similarly, AE Waite, I understand, was
of the school of thought which considered the
divinatory uses of the tarot to be low and even
"mean" ends, so this means that inducted
fraudsters in Lodges serving sentences in "White
Collar", or even Open, prisons could also cite
divination as an acceptable (if frowned upon) use
for the cards.
Where divination is concerned, and certainly,
where the number of posessions and personal
effects prisoners are likely to carry with them
and have access to is concerned, any psychometrist
will tell you that you're better off fashioning a
pendulum from a small personal item to ask
questions of. And because the thread is a fine
thing that should be there purely to join the
item with the diviner (or questioner) there's
really very little chance of it being used as a
torniquet, ligature or garotte in practice.
Though even this, of course, would not preclude
an insecure, pessimistic or traumatised prisoner
electing for a punishment simply because they
might feel they may have done something wrong,
so probably best not to encourage it.
I should have thought this use of local materials
and personal effects was rather more "Wicca"
than any tarot deck could be and, after all, a
set of runes or ogham characters can easily be
drawn onto bits of paper or card. But I don't know.
Obviously, beliefs have to be respected by the
authorities up to a certain point, and if people
believe that tarot is a teaching tool honed to the
natural vibrations and holistic harmony Wiccans
tend to espouse, in my experience, then obviously
this should be, and is being, respected.
I was just a bit surprised as paper is an Egyptian
invention which maybe the Romans brought to
Britain or it may have got here later (my history is
sketchy on some topics--though I understood that
the Romans, as did the Greeks before them, had
a tendency to prefer clay and wax pads which
were used with a stylus) I should certainly be
astonished to find it's part of the Wiccan religion
as it was practised originally.
Then again, what is paper and what is card but
abstracted trees?
Anyway, next time you're filled with a burning
desire to tell the world what teachers of religion,
whether overt or occulted, should be doing instead
then please don't hesitate to tell them, rather than
us here on alt.tarot
> Note that I don't even read the posts of the shit-for-brains troll
> who infests alt.religion.wicca. It has a lot names, like "sarchasm"
> and "hope" and "goldenheart" and so forth. A real loser. I suspect
> that it is actually ren (the cheap charlatan and vicious troll who
> thinks he owns alt.religion.wicca): , because 'normal' trolls don't
> hang around for six months when their target doesn't feed them:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/710dc35380ae361d
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/e71094ef5f99c2fc
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/bddb8c59f894a2a5
>
> Sid
Oh, and cross-posting is rude too. Hi all!
> --
> Sidney Lambe
> Wiccan Priest and Apprentice Magicianhttp://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb
> usenet4444 (at) gmail (dot) com
G DAEB
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I don't read garbage. And since tarot is superstitious
nonsense the FAQ is garbage.
> What news there has been recently has been
> sparse, but you are indeed right that Wicca is one
> of the religions which the UK Prison sector will allow
> inmates to own a tarot deck for the practice of.
You wanted to know where to start. I suggest you begin
by pulling your head out of your ass and getting some
oxygen to your brain.
I didn't say anything anything about the UK Prison sector
or prisons of any kind.
[delete more irrational blathering]
>> Note that I don't even read the posts of the shit-for-brains troll
>> who infests alt.religion.wicca. It has a lot names, like "sarchasm"
>> and "hope" and "goldenheart" and so forth. A real loser. I suspect
>> that it is actually ren (the cheap charlatan and vicious troll who
>> thinks he owns alt.religion.wicca): , because 'normal' trolls don't
>> hang around for six months when their target doesn't feed them:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/710dc35380ae361d
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/e71094ef5f99c2fc
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/bddb8c59f894a2a5
>>
>> Sid
>
> Oh, and cross-posting is rude too. Hi all!
No. Cross-posting is an important feature of the usenet.
That's why it is built into the NNTP protocol.
Now tell us, Einstein, why you crossposted if you think
it so rude.
>> --
>> Sidney Lambe
>> Wiccan Priest and Apprentice Magicianhttp://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb
>> usenet4444 (at) gmail (dot) com
>
> G DAEB
> COPYRIGHT (C) 2009 SIPSTON
Why is it that ignorant motormouths are always the ones who post
those useless and impotent copyright notices on their shit posts?
Sid
No the Yuezhi brought it to Briton.
�
Go on then. Dartmoor? Exmoor? Bodmin Moor?
Explain how wicca works. It's not like it did in any
of them places.
So, please, go away and learn about animal and
land husbandry, otherwise, SHUT UP.
you may find the following worth remembering:
if your post isn't relevant, and to the topic of tarot
it isn't, then kindly don't bother us here with your
infantile vendettae.
I did at least try to offer some new information on
the topic of where Wiccaa crosses over with Tarot
which wouldn't have been widely reported outside
of the uk.
You just came blundering in with no clue as to who
is into what, what the tarot has been about at many
different points in history, and then tried to lecture
us on our religious observance.
Next time you want to talk about "shit posts" may
I recommend a looking glass.
> Sid
>
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> Sidney Lambe
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does that translate into "a wanker" in vernacular
English, by any chance?
I just did the stud=
> > y
> >> and preparations for a self-initiation ritual and then the ritual
> >> itself.
>
> >>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/browse_thread/threa...
>
> >> In Wicca, everyone is supposedly a "priest", which is just more of
> >> the self/group-deception these 'neo-pagan' psuedo-religions thrive
> >> on. We call our real priests "clergy".
>
> > Erm, where to start?
>
> > Firstly, please read the alt.tarot FAQ before posting
> > here.
>
> I don't read garbage. And since tarot is superstitious
> nonsense the FAQ is garbage.
Erm? Ah! I see. A clueless fucktard! Stick with the
other groups you seem to think are full of gullible
tosspots. alt.tarot tends not be. They've all gone to
private propietary fora.
> > What news there has been recently has been
> > sparse, but you are indeed right that Wicca is one
> > of the religions which the UK Prison sector will allow
> > inmates to own a tarot deck for the practice of.
>
> You wanted to know where to start. I suggest you begin
> by pulling your head out of your ass and getting some
> oxygen to your brain.
No, that was a rhetorical question aimed at you.
I found Dartmoor, Exmoor and Bodmin Moor gave
fair food for thought, and a lot of the traditional place
names here also do cast some light on this subject
it's fallen to your messianic self to illuminate us all
on.
> I didn't say anything anything about the UK Prison sector
> or prisons of any kind.
No, that counts as "news", i.e., original information.
Unless of course "another lunatic believes he knows
it all" (which was the main thrust of your post) counts
as "news" these days.
> [delete more irrational blathering]
>
>
>
>
>
> >> Note that I don't even read the posts of the shit-for-brains troll
> >> who infests alt.religion.wicca. It has a lot names, like "sarchasm"
> >> and "hope" and "goldenheart" and so forth. A real loser. I suspect
> >> that it is actually ren (the cheap charlatan and vicious troll who
> >> thinks he owns alt.religion.wicca): , because 'normal' trolls don't
> >> hang around for six months when their target doesn't feed them:
>
> >>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/710dc35380ae361d
>
> >>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/e71094ef5f99c2fc
>
> >>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/bddb8c59f894a2a5
>
> >> Sid
>
> > Oh, and cross-posting is rude too. Hi all!
>
> No. Cross-posting is an important feature of the usenet.
> That's why it is built into the NNTP protocol.
>
> Now tell us, Einstein, why you crossposted if you think
> it so rude.
By the calibre of the dross which followed your
somewhat egocentric textual diarrhoea I thought
perhaps your coteria of earger neophytes may
not be familiar with the medium.
Besides, you lot fucking started it.
> >> --
> >> Sidney Lambe
> >> Wiccan Priest and Apprentice Magicianhttp://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb
> >> usenet4444 (at) gmail (dot) com
>
> > G DAEB
> > COPYRIGHT (C) 2009 SIPSTON
>
> Why is it that ignorant motormouths are always the ones who post
> those useless and impotent copyright notices on their shit posts?
Why do the most useless wnakers fail to ever have anything
original, let alone interesting, to say?
> Sid
>
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He is "Willfully Blind"!!!!!!!!!!!
> On Jun 18, 5:05 am, Evergreen <sidneyla...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> > G Daeb <sipston_...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> > > On May 5, 1:25=A0am, Evergreen <sidneyla...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> > >> salsufy <sals...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > On May 5, 12:08=3DA0am, Evergreen <sidneyla...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > >> > Hi Sid, thanks for the deep insight. I am sure you have much to share
> > >> > with me.
> >
> > >> I don't know much, but what I know I actually _know_. I speak from
> > >> experience, not from google searches. I have a teacher who can
> > >> actually do magick, not just spew psuedo-esoteric bullshit on
> > >> the internet or the local public forest.
> >
> > >> >> Wiccan Priest
> >
> > >> > I am impressed with you being a Wiccan Priest. Does this make you the
> > >> > head of a Coven?
> >
> > >> No. I am what is called a "solitaire priest" by some.
>
> does that translate into "a wanker" in vernacular
> English, by any chance?
Sorta, it means he made up his own teachings and Pretends Hating Wicca makes him
Wicca.