why so many truth seeker posts
Patticakes
there was some good info here, makes it harder to sift through
ramona
Ramona
Michael Pattinson
everybody else's posts pushed off the front page as we are giving out
too much real data.
It is a kind of spam.
You can use the search box on Googlegroups for any particular aspect of
a.r.s. that interests you.
Peace.
Michael.
Truth Seeker
wrote:
>kind of makes the group hard to read, no?????
No.
Muldoon
Patticakes wrote:
> kind of makes the group hard to read, no?????
>
> there was some good info here, makes it harder to sift through
Truth Seeker is a Scientology cult mental-confusion spam bot.
Typically the first line or paragraph of a Truth Seeker spam post will
be true, more or less, and will have been cut and pasted from writings
of an actual sincere individual.
The rest of a typical Truth Seeker posting will add a "twist" which
attacks actual sincere critics. (Often the same people who have just
been "cut and pasted from" in the first line or paragraph.)
This is a kind of "trade off."
In order to not be _provably_ guilty of spamming, the Scientology cult
adopts the disguise of "ex-Scientologist critic Truth Seeker," and then
spams, and also attacks actual critics, while - also - describing these
very same tactics, but attributing them to others.
This is supposed to cause mental confusion in new on-lookers, and
prevent free exchange of ideas and information on ARS.
Truth Seeker is a form of harassment.
wbarwell
> kind of makes the group hard to read, no?????
>
> there was some good info here, makes it harder to sift through
Turd Leaker is a Scientologist spamming this group to make
it unreadable. He poses as a critic except his posts then
usual claim all critics here are Scientologists.
Killfile him, you won't miss him.
The other pest is Barbara Schwarz who was president of
Scientology, Germany for awhile. She is now an ambulatory
schizophrenic who was offloaded years ago.
She posts under numerous pseudonyms.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Schwarz
We have a smattering of CCHR drones who change
nyms weekly to avoid killfiles.
--
An Inuit hunter asked the local missionary priest: "If I did not know about
God and sin, would I go to hell?" "No," said the priest, "not if you did
not know." "Then why," asked the Inuit earnestly, "did you tell me?"
-Annie Dillard, Pilgrim at Tinker Creek
Cheerful Charlie
David Miscavige
>kind of makes the group hard to read, no?????
>
>there was some good info here, makes it harder to sift through
That's why I have do it.
DM
"There is none more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they
are free!" Goethe.
Muldoon
This thread pretty well sums up what the "Truth Seeker" Scientology
cult spam operation is supposed to do.
"Truth Seeker" posts "Scientology is criminal!" and then spams this NG,
and harasses actual sincere people examining the cult of Scientology.
The "Truth Seeker" mental-confusion gimmick is creepily manipulative.
Phineas Fogg
"Patticakes" <gr...@grass.grows> wrote in message
news:dua5mv$t4b$2...@pita.alt.net...
> kind of makes the group hard to read, no?????
>
> there was some good info here, makes it harder to sift through
Use your kill file.
Phineas
realpch
>
> kind of makes the group hard to read, no?????
>
> there was some good info here, makes it harder to sift through
Yes, that's why he does it. It is widely thought that he/she/they are
working for the Church of Scientology to spam up the newsgroup and
create confusion. I have never been a Scientologist, and I object to a
number of policies of the Church of Scientology, yet he has my name on
his silly list of people he says are posting for the Church of
Scientology on this newsgroup. Furthermore, he/she/they have often
targeted ex-member and very effective public speaker Tory Christman for
abuse. Not only that, he/she/they posted Tory's home phone number to sex
groups. In short, a pariah, with absolutely no social conscience, and
bad manners to boot.
Peach
VŠ
"David Miscavige" <dw...@extravagant.org> wrote in message
news:A3R6H06E3877...@anonymous.poster...
> On Fri, 03 Mar 2006, Patticakes <gr...@grass.grows> wrote:
>
>>kind of makes the group hard to read, no?????
>>
>>there was some good info here, makes it harder to sift through
>
> That's why I have do it.
David Miss-Cabbage
>
> DM
>
> "There is none more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe
> they
> are free!" Goethe.
>
>
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wbarwell
>
> BARWELL, WE ARE TIRED OF THE DAILY MASSIVE WILLIAM CHARLES BARWELL
> SPAM, LIES, DEFAMATION, ABUSE AND HARASSMENT.
Lovely spam, wonderful spa-a-m,
Lovely spam, wonderful S Spam,
Spa-a-a-a-a-a-a-am,
Spa-a-a-a-a-a-a-am,
SPA-A-A-A-A-A-A-AM,
SPA-A-A-A-A-A-A-AM,
LOVELY SPAM, LOVELY SPAM,
LOVELY SPAM, LOVELY SPAM,
LOVELY SPA-A-A-A-AM...
SPA-AM, SPA-AM, SPA-AM, SPA-A-A-AM!
Muldoon
These are some books that "Truth Seeker" is not allowed to acknowledge:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0942637577/ref=sib_dp_pt/102-8564932-9185732
zeeorger
Nothing creepy about Poop Seeker.
He is a typical little scientology viper - speaks with forked-tongue,
tries
to bite and poison you with a venomous neurotoxin.
lives in a pit, eats small rodents (thinks its eating baby squirrels),
reptilian
thinking, bites his own tail and poisions himself daily, delusional.
Its the big cold-blooded snakes you have to worry about, their
neuotoxin
creates severe mental disorder, psychosis and (in severe cases) death.
Z
barbz
for. They'll siphon the money right out of your pocket! (they're fun to
steam, though)
--
--
Barb
Chaplain, ARSCC
xenu...@netscape.net
"Every week, every month, every year, every decade and now
every century, Scientology does weird and stupid things
to damage its own reputation."
-Steve Zadarnowski
"Comparing Scientology to a motorcycle gang is a gross, unpardonable
insult to bikers everywhere. Even at our worst, we are never as bad as
Scientology."
-ex-member, Thunderclouds motorcycle "club"
"$cientology sees the world this way: One man with a picket sign:
terrorism. Five thousand people dead in a deliberate inferno: business
opportunity.
$cientology oozes _under_ terrorists to hide."
-Chris Leithiser
Barbara Schwarz
wbarwell schrieb:
> Patticakes wrote:
Stop defaming, lying, harassing and stalking me, William Charles
Barwell. Stop sabotaging all my postings, stop spamming, stop trying to
scream me down, just because you don't agree with me and get a life,
you low life form, and anti-free speech kook.
Go back where you came from, and that is hell, if I am not very much
mistaken. I swear, I take you on legally, like the others of my
stalkers before you.
William Charles Barwell spams and stalks me with the a defamatory free
speech controlled Wikipedia article about me (unprofessional Wikipedia
was founded by porn engine CEO Jimmy Wales and is subject to possible
class action law suit) scribbled by forger, thief, other offender,
defamer and sexual harasser Korey Jerome Kruse and Eugenics fan and
anti-religious extremist Tilman Hausherr (Google their names).
Barwell tried to hitch me up with an 80 year old abusive stalker man,
Milton Robert "Pete" Stapelton, a dead beat and one who posted that he
was a pimp, is interested in young boys and that he is mentally ill. He
harassed me with posting ID Eru Avatar and Barwell teamed up with that
abusive man in many threads against me, which means that Barwell and
Stapelton are a pair.
Thanks to the generosity of Uncle Ton and Auto, for permission to use
their research:
Redneck William "Charlie" Barwell, from Houston, Texas, is a documented
hate monger, liar and spammer. He spams a list with defamatory books on
Scientology, also that one of Cyril Vosper, a convicted kidnapper and
felon. This guy kidnapped me and Barwell promotes him! Barwell should
be incarcerated. He is dangerous!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/582f20694a32372d?hl=de&
He is member of the weird and money oriented SubGenius cult but
hypocritically attacks and defames Scientology and L. Ron Hubbard.
Barwell signed his postings as "pope", and his mental state is
questioned by others.
Barwell wrote he loves cats in white wine sauce, drinks beer, rum and
loves skunks. Redneck William "Charlie" Barwell is a shabby HATEFUL
PERSON, who could use a deodorant.
He is a spamming, lying weasel, a black propagandist,who posts
anti-Scientology hatred and defends p$ychiatric crimes. -
He can't see Arnie Lerma's Nazi connection even though it is right in
front of his face. (Willis Carto). William defends Arnie Lerma. -- "Not
really." - William Barwell . - "One more time, Arnie is not an
anti-Semite, nor a member of the liberty Lobby, ect." -
William Charles Barwell. Barwell was caught lying again.
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lerma1.html
Barbara Schwarz
Muldoon
And another topic "Truth Seeker" won't touch - "people who have been
silenced by the Scientology cult":
L00kin4Truth
was hoping for an answer to a post of mine but it was pushed off but
the dozens of what appears to be reposts of topics i could read if i
searched for em.
Damned Clams!
That is the intention of the clam kook-bot spammer Truth Seeker, who
may be reported to abuse @ verizon.com
Damned Clams!
> That is the intention of the clam kook-bot spammer Truth Seeker, who
> may be reported to abuse @ verizon.com
Wrong. That should be abuse @ verizon.net - my bad.
wbarwell
Possibly. we get flurries of clogbots, and truth seeker
was one of the worst.
Try again, what's your question?
--
So you want to fight the Master!
First you must fight my brother Chang!
Cheerful Charlie
Rev. Norle Enturbulata
"Damned Clams!" <damn....@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1143127489.1...@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Not just Verizon, but abuse @ level3.net - and groups-abuse @ google.com -
with requests for action against TS and in Google's case, request to have
the messages removed as obvious spam.
>
Android Cat
Is he still using any Level3 resources? I think he's been off of their
ports for over a month.
--
Ron of that ilk.
Rev. Norle Enturbulata
"Android Cat" <androi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d32fc$4422f25c$cf700576$15...@PRIMUS.CA...
Ah, excuse me if I don't let my spam filter go off for a moment to check. :)
Last time I looked though, when he was varying the combination of "TS" and
"Chess Master" duplicate spams...
--
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/9363363/inside_scientology
http://BuffaloScientologyInfo.com - http://www.xenu.net
http://PerkinsTragedy.org - http://www.xenutv.net
http://www.whyaretheydead.net
http://www.xenu.net
http://www.xenutv.com
http://www.scientology-lies.com
http://www.whyaretheydead.net
http://www.scientology-kills.org
Rev. Norle Enturbulata
"Church" of Cartoonism
*
* " You can write that down in your book in great big letters. The only way
you can control anybody is to lie to them."
* -- L. Ron Hubbard, "Technique 88"
*
* "...Never discuss Scientology with the critic. Just discuss his or her
crimes, known and unknown. And act completely confident that those crimes
exist...."
* L. Ron Hubbard, "Critics of Scientology", November 5, 1967
*
* "All men shall be my slaves! All women shall succumb to my charms! All
mankind shall grovel at my feet and not know why!"
- L. Ron Hubbard, "Personal Affirmations"
Damned Clams!
> "Android Cat" <androi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:d32fc$4422f25c$cf700576$15...@PRIMUS.CA...
> > Rev. Norle Enturbulata wrote:
> >> "Damned Clams!" <damn....@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1143127489.1...@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >>> Damned Clams! wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> That is the intention of the clam kook-bot spammer Truth Seeker, who
> >>>> may be reported to abuse @ verizon.com
> >>>
> >>> Wrong. That should be abuse @ verizon.net - my bad.
> >>
> >> Not just Verizon, but abuse @ level3.net - and groups-abuse @
> >> google.com - with requests for action against TS and in Google's
> >> case, request to have the messages removed as obvious spam.
> >
> > Is he still using any Level3 resources? I think he's been off of their
> > ports for over a month.
>
> Ah, excuse me if I don't let my spam filter go off for a moment to check. :)
> Last time I looked though, when he was varying the combination of "TS" and
> "Chess Master" duplicate spams...
The spamming clam-bot is on Verizon now, not Level3.
I doubt Google will do anything in the way of removing the clam spam
flood when Google will not even close Google Groups accounts, like
the smelly socks of the dildo queen and that other floon used to spam,
as well as post threats of violence and people's SS#s via Google.
> http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/9363363/inside_scientology
> http://BuffaloScientologyInfo.com - http://www.xenu.net
> http://PerkinsTragedy.org - http://www.xenutv.net
> http://www.whyaretheydead.net
> http://www.xenu.net
> http://www.xenutv.com
> http://www.scientology-lies.com
> http://www.whyaretheydead.net
> http://www.scientology-kills.org
Shin...@myway.com
wbarwell wrote:
> L00kin4Truth wrote:
Barwell is just as bad as the TS.
RUM-FILLED (PSYCHIATIC DRUGGED?) WILLIAM CHARLES BARWELL FROM HOUSTON,
TEXAS IS ONE OF THE WORST SPAMMERS, LIBELERS AND DEFAMERS USENET HAS
EVER SEEN. HE ALSO IS A CULTIST (SUBGENIUS-CRAP).
Maggot William Charles Barwell also sometimes goes by the name
Bardwell. William registered with internet "phone books" that he was
born in 1950. He acts pretty childish for a 50 something year old man.
Oh, did we discover some criminal past of William Charles Barwell in
these records?
http://www.zabasearch.com/query1_zaba.php?sname=William+Charles+Barwell&state=&name_style=1
And he supports CMU maggot David Touretzky!
Barwell defends cyber terrorist Dave Touretzky who likes cyber
skin-dildos. Students coming after that CMU Professor. Check here:
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/touretzky/
http://schwarzb.100free.com
http://schwarz.bravehost.com
http://home.graffiti.net/schwarzb:graffiti.net
http://personales.ciudad.com.ar/b-schwartz
http://schwartz.bizhat.com
http://schwarz.50webs.com
http://schwarz.awardspace.com
http://www.intheup.com/members/schwarz
http://schwarzb.t35.com
http://schwarz.getdata.be
http://schwarz.iespana.es
http://schwarz.freespaces.com
http://club.telepolis.com/schwartzb
http://personales.com/panama/chepo/schwartz
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Faxhor
Date: 24 Jul 2004 04:38:36 -0700
Subject: William Barwell
To:
re: FAXHOR: "He's the bad guy who shoots of his mouth and does
a lot of name calling, gets the crowd worked up and
then gets battered to a pulp by the good guy."
- William Charles Barwell (wbar...@mylinuxisp.com)
Talk is cheap. Faxhor has not been cane'd by old Black Dianetics
Rookie William Charles Barwell.
Have we ever seen the Bigmouth Barwell lip off? I'll give one
example of many that I have on this hippocritical and salty old
man (He is 53 and going to turn 54 in about a month):
"Lets see how hard I can kick
your sorry right winged ass."
- William Charles Barwell
I'm sure many of you out there can remember hundreds of other times
the clam has yapped.
Old 'Pope' Barwell, who doubts the existence of a god, thinks he
is a saintly 'good guy'?
"...because I'm honest enough to
stand behind what I post."
- William Charles Barwell
Just because someone stands behind their postings doesn't mean
they're honest. If wrong, then it just shows how stubborn the
maggot is. How honest was it to stand behind this posting:
"One more time, Arnis is not an anti-Semite,
nor a member of the liberty Lobby, ect."
- William Charles Barwell
Mr. Barwell lied and stated, apparently more than once, that
Arnie was not involved with the Liberty Lobby. On a radio
show, Arnie was interviewed about his membership in the L.L.
The Liberty Lobby, a nazi front organization, was founded by
Willis Carto.
"I suggest that we don't promote my
relationship with Willis Carto ... "
- Arnie Lerma
"We have the full support of Willis Carto..."
- A. Lerma
"Carto, founder of the Liberty Lobby, was
by far the most successful and influential
American anti-Semite of the 1970s."
- McVay, Kenneth N.
Is William stubborn or what?. "You can't teach an old dog new
tricks" should be Un-Cheerful Charlies motto.
If Ungodly William Charles Barwell is such a 'good guy',
then why does he defend an anti-Semite. Is old Barwell
also involved?
Anway, I'll blow this Subgenius away in a game of chess any day.
Faxhor
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
References:
"Lets see how hard I can kick your sorry right winged ass."
- William Charles Barwell
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=40cf752d%240%2417092%24811e409b%40news.mylinuxisp.com&output=gplain
"One more time, Arnis is not an anti-Semite, nor a member of the
liberty
Lobby, ect."
- William Charles Barwell
"A. Lerma is on the board of policy of Liberty Lobby.
Liberty Lobby is the number one anti-Semite group
in the United States according to the ADL."
- Faxhor
WMNF "Talk of the Bay" Transcript 12/4/97
http://members.cox.net/batchild1/transcript/part1.htm
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Copyright (c) 2004 Faxhor. Permission to use only to those who are
not Nazis.
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lerma1.html
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/touretzky00.html
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/graham1.html
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/hauser1.html
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/Christman/index.html
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund/Lund01.html
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/gonnet1.html
wbarwell
>
> Barwell is just as bad as the TS.
> RUM-FILLED (PSYCHIATIC DRUGGED?) WILLIAM CHARLES BARWELL FROM HOUSTON,
> TEXAS IS ONE OF THE WORST SPAMMERS, LIBELERS AND DEFAMERS USENET HAS
> EVER SEEN. HE ALSO IS A CULTIST (SUBGENIUS-CRAP).
>
SubGenius gonna get yo' mama!
*************************************************
TESTING SCIENTOLOGY
PUT UP OR SHUT UP!
CLAMS AND TEETH
*************************************************
William C. Barwell 3-16-2006
THE CLAIM:
-------------------------------------------------
"The History of Man" - L. Ron Hubbard
Chapter Four
By the way, if you cannot take a warning, your
discussion of these incidents with the uninitiated
in Scientology can produce havoc. Should you
describe "the clam" to some one, you may
restimulate it in him to the extent of causing
severe jaw hinge pain. One such victim, after
hearing about a clam death could not
use his jaws for three days. Another "had to have"
two molars extracted because of the resulting
ache. The clam and all these incidents are very
much present in the GE and can be restimulated
easily. So do not be sadistic with your describing
them to people - unless, of course, they
belligerently claim that Man has no past memory
for his evolution. In that event, describe away.
It makes believers over and above enriching your
friend the dentist who, indeed, could not exist
without these errors and incidents on the
evolutionary line!
....
The hinge epicentres later become the hinges of
the human jaw. Should you desire to confirm this,
describe to some uninitiated person the death of a
clam without saying what you are describing.
"Can you imagine a clam sitting on the beach,
opening and closing its shell very rapidly?" (Make
a motion with your thumb and forefinger of a rapid
opening and closing). The victim may grip his
jaws with his hand and feel quite upset. He may
even have to have a few teeth pulled: At the very
least he will argue as to whether or not the shell
stays open at the end or closed. And he will, with
no hint of the death aspect of it, talk about the
"poor clam" and he will feel quite sad
emotionally.
...
-------------------------------------------------
This should be easy to test.
1. Get about 10 test subjects.
2. Interview them. The experimenter reads the
following text to them"
"Can you imagine a clam sitting on the beach,
opening and closing its shell very rapidly?"
(Make a motion with your thumb and forefinger
of a rapid opening and closing). - LRH
"Describe to some uninitiated person the
death of a clam without saying what you are
describing." - LRH
One should probably create some sort of short
"death of clams" statements as described.
3. The experimenter makes the mention hand
movements while making the statements so
written.
4. Test subjects are then interviewed for
reactions to this statement and hand
actions. Questions should be prewritten
to a script that is non-leading, giving
no hint of teeth or "jaw hinge" pain.
Note if test subjects argue about shells
being open or closed.
5. Tests should be video-recorded.
I predict Scientology will never do this test.
I predict mentioning death of clams and making
snapping hand motions will only make people
laugh or look at you funny.
Try this at your next boring office meeting. Then
after the test hand out copies of Hubbard's
bizarre claims above and watch them laugh.
*************************************************
Muldoon
Shin...@myway.com wrote:
> wbarwell wrote:
> > L00kin4Truth wrote:
>
> Barwell is just as bad as the TS.
> RUM-FILLED (PSYCHIATIC DRUGGED?) WILLIAM CHARLES BARWELL FROM HOUSTON,
> TEXAS IS ONE OF THE WORST SPAMMERS, LIBELERS AND DEFAMERS USENET HAS
> EVER SEEN. HE ALSO IS A CULTIST (SUBGENIUS-CRAP).
>
>
> Maggot William Charles Barwell also sometimes goes by the name
- snip noise spam -
Barbara Schwarz is a victim of Scientology, who is a fierce defender of
that which had victimized her.
She is currently being used by the Scientology cult in the role of
(disown-able) pro-Scientology "attack dog."
"Truth Seeker," in the guise of an "ex-Scientologist and critic," must,
therefore, be dismissed as "bad."
The Scientology cult exploits weakness in people, including the mental
illness that can sometimes occur in its own most tragic victims.
As you can see, one objective is to generate "noise," with endless back
and forth - mostly pointless - name calling.
When asked about Barbara S., the Scientology cult will explain that she
is no longer a member.
The focus of this thread, however, was "Truth Seeker," and what he/it
is, and what he/it does.
And this thread, I think, does a pretty good job of explaining it.
Barbara Schwarz
Muldoon schrieb:
> Shin...@myway.com wrote:
> > wbarwell wrote:
> > > L00kin4Truth wrote:
> >
> > Barwell is just as bad as the TS.
> > RUM-FILLED (PSYCHIATIC DRUGGED?) WILLIAM CHARLES BARWELL FROM HOUSTON,
> > TEXAS IS ONE OF THE WORST SPAMMERS, LIBELERS AND DEFAMERS USENET HAS
> > EVER SEEN. HE ALSO IS A CULTIST (SUBGENIUS-CRAP).
> >
> >
> > Maggot William Charles Barwell also sometimes goes by the name
>
> - snip noise spam -
>
> Barbara Schwarz
Stop fabricating about my life, Brian. I am too strong and
self-determined to be a victim. And if I am one, then I am one of the
psychiatrists and the psychiatric infiltrator in the C of S. But not
Scientology's victim. Scientology is great, infiltrators are not.
--
Barbara Schwarz
Looking for the original Mark (Marty) Rathbun. (No impostor, please!)
--
L. Ron Hubbard: "THE CRIMINAL ACCUSES OTHERS OF THINGS WHICH HE HIMSELF
IS DOING. THE CRIMINAL MIND RELENTLESSLY SEEKS TO DESTROY ANYONE IT
IMAGINES MIGHT EXPOSE IT. THE CRIMINAL ONLY SEES OTHERS AS HE HIMSELF
IS."
L. Ron Hubbard: "HONEST PEOPLE HAVE RIGHTS, TOO."
http://www.thunderstar.net/~Schwarz/
(I am concerned about Dave Touretzky's activities.)
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/
Read the pages on terrorist-friendly Andreas Heldal-Lund (arrested for
harassment):
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund/Lund04.html
Ball of Fluff
"Muldoon" <bria...@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
news:1143192658....@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Shin...@myway.com wrote:
>> wbarwell wrote:
>> > L00kin4Truth wrote:
>>
>> Barwell is just as bad as the TS.
>> RUM-FILLED (PSYCHIATIC DRUGGED?) WILLIAM CHARLES BARWELL FROM HOUSTON,
>> TEXAS IS ONE OF THE WORST SPAMMERS, LIBELERS AND DEFAMERS USENET HAS
>> EVER SEEN. HE ALSO IS A CULTIST (SUBGENIUS-CRAP).
>>
>>
>> Maggot William Charles Barwell also sometimes goes by the name
>
> - snip noise spam -
>
> Barbara Schwarz is a victim of Scientology, who is a fierce defender of
> that which had victimized her.
I doubt that.
I think she's a nut and that she has her own bad intentions.
C
Muldoon
Ball of Fluff wrote:
> "Muldoon" <bria...@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
> news:1143192658....@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Shin...@myway.com wrote:
> >> wbarwell wrote:
> >> > L00kin4Truth wrote:
> >>
> >> Barwell is
> > - snip -
> >
> > Barbara Schwarz is a victim of Scientology, who is a fierce defender of
> > that which had victimized her.
>
> I doubt that.
>
> I think she's a nut and that she has her own bad intentions.
>
> C
Scientology, as designed by its founder, is stratified and
compartmentalized. Its publicized portion is dominated by its behind
the scenes portion which, in turn, is dominated by its secretive
portion.
It is secretive and manipulative with twinkling ornaments of truth.
Along with the twinkling ornaments of truth are twinkling ornaments of
hyperbole and make-believe.
"Scientology" is not only the twinkling ornaments of various kinds, but
that which is behind, and obscured by, those ornaments.
Sorry to break the news to you, but someone had to do it.
When I use the word "Scientology," I mean the "total package" as
designed by its founder, not only the display part.
I'm a big admirer of twinkling ornaments of truth, glad you are too,
but that's not L. Ron Hubbard's Scientology.
Ball of Fluff
>
> Ball of Fluff wrote:
>> "Muldoon" <bria...@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
>> news:1143192658....@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> > Shin...@myway.com wrote:
>> >> wbarwell wrote:
>> >> > L00kin4Truth wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Barwell is
>
>> > - snip -
>
>> >
>> > Barbara Schwarz is a victim of Scientology, who is a fierce defender of
>> > that which had victimized her.
>>
>> I doubt that.
>>
>> I think she's a nut and that she has her own bad intentions.
>>
>> C
>
> Scientology, as designed by its founder, is stratified and
> compartmentalized. Its publicized portion is dominated by its behind
> the scenes portion which, in turn, is dominated by its secretive
> portion.
So what. Some people are just plain nuts already when they join it. Ever met
a mean or nutty Christian or Jew? I have. Sometimes people are already crazy
or mean before they ever even joined.
>
> It is secretive and manipulative with twinkling ornaments of truth.
>
> Along with the twinkling ornaments of truth are twinkling ornaments of
> hyperbole and make-believe.
>
> "Scientology" is not only the twinkling ornaments of various kinds, but
> that which is behind, and obscured by, those ornaments.
>
> Sorry to break the news to you, but someone had to do it.
>
> When I use the word "Scientology," I mean the "total package" as
> designed by its founder, not only the display part.
>
> I'm a big admirer of twinkling ornaments of truth, glad you are too,
> but that's not L. Ron Hubbard's Scientology.
I like most of what he wrote. Not just a few twinkling thingies.
Though I must say, twinkling is a very good thing of which I highly approve.
;->
Twinklingly,
C
Lermanet.com
Cheerful Charlie in another thread wrote:
if you are self deluded what is true for you is not true.
Arnaldo Lerma
Lermanet.com Exposing the CON
I'd prefer to die speaking my mind than live fearing to speake
If the Borg were to breed with the Ferengi you'd get Scientology!
29 November 1995 - Memorandum Opinion Judge Leonie Brinkema
"the Court is now convinced that the primary motivation of RTC in suing Lerma, DGS and The Post is to stifle criticism of Scientology in general and to harass its critics. "
The internet is the Liberty Tree
http://www.lermanet.com/faqs.html#psychiatry
http://www.lermanet.com/exit/hubbard-the-hypnotist.htm
http://www.lermanet.com/scientology/altreligionscientology-killfile-settings.htm
http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/crowley-hubbard-666.htm
http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/flint-suicides-in-scientology-040383.htm
both with IMAGES!!
"Scientologists believe that most human problems
can be traced to lingering spirits of an extraterrestrial
people massacred by their ruler, Xenu, over 75 million
years ago. These spirits attach themselves by "clusters"
to individuals in the contemporary world, causing
spiritual harm and negatively influencing the lives
of their hosts"
[Judge Leonie Brinkema 4 Oct 96 Memorandum Opinion]
What do we get from getting people out of scientology?
We create an individual who has become a Houdini of
all mind traps.. folks who won't be fooled again.
People who can DE-program, People who can spring mental
traps..
We create, by freeing someone of scientology, a being
who has the ability to break the strongest slave chains
of all.
Those forged of lies. (c) Arnaldo Lerma
Barbara Schwarz
Ball of Fluff schrieb:
> "Muldoon" <bria...@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
> news:1143353252....@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Ball of Fluff wrote:
> >> "Muldoon" <bria...@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1143192658....@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >> >
> >> > Shin...@myway.com wrote:
> >> >> wbarwell wrote:
> >> >> > L00kin4Truth wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Barwell is
> >
> >> > - snip -
> >
> >> >
> >> > Barbara Schwarz is a victim of Scientology, who is a fierce defender of
> >> > that which had victimized her.
Who wrote that lie? Since when do I defend any infiltrator of
Scientology? Since when do I defend psychs who messed my kidneys up?
Since when do I defend abusers on Usenet who defame and lie about it?
> >>
> >> I doubt that.
> >>
> >> I think she's a nut and that she has her own bad intentions.
Claire is a declares SP. She was excommunicated. Her crimes against
Scientologists must be really something as she doesn't has the courage
to post her SP declare. As far as evil intentions, one just has to
google her e-mail address and postings.
> >>
> >> C
> >
> > Scientology, as designed by its founder, is stratified and
> > compartmentalized. Its publicized portion is dominated by its behind
> > the scenes portion which, in turn, is dominated by its secretive
> > portion.
>
> So what. Some people are just plain nuts already when they join it. Ever met
> a mean or nutty Christian or Jew? I have. Sometimes people are already crazy
> or mean before they ever even joined.
You don't have to look for craziness in others. Just take a finally a
honest look at yourself, Claire. Just as Ron said, you blame people of
what's wrong with yourself.
Otherwise, you are a waste of time. Your IQ is not higher than that of
Tory.
Muldoon
Muldoon wrote:
> Patticakes wrote:
> > kind of makes the group hard to read, no?????
> >
> > there was some good info here, makes it harder to sift through
>
> Truth Seeker is a Scientology cult mental-confusion spam bot.
>
> Typically the first line or paragraph of a Truth Seeker spam post will
> be true, more or less, and will have been cut and pasted from writings
> of an actual sincere individual.
>
> The rest of a typical Truth Seeker posting will add a "twist" which
> attacks actual sincere critics. (Often the same people who have just
> been "cut and pasted from" in the first line or paragraph.)
>
> This is a kind of "trade off."
>
> In order to not be _provably_ guilty of spamming, the Scientology cult
> adopts the disguise of "ex-Scientologist critic Truth Seeker," and then
> spams, and also attacks actual critics, while - also - describing these
> very same tactics, but attributing them to others.
>
> This is supposed to cause mental confusion in new on-lookers, and
> prevent free exchange of ideas and information on ARS.
>
> Truth Seeker is a form of harassment.
Regarding the "M. Rinder" postings and web site:
On the origins of "Truth Seeker":
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/bc5f65eafd84f45f
"Truth Seeker"/"Chess Master," "Lily"/"To hard to handle"/"Brick" are
party to the invention of the silly "M. Rinder" site.
Another Scientology cult attempt at discrediting or nullifying
("handling") a.r.s. by inserting "noise," garbage, "kookiness," and,
most of all, confusion, and, of course, black propaganda, smears, and
_spam_.
"M. Rinder" can denounce "Truth Seeker" as an "SP," which can serve to
confuse a few, and then, later, the "M. Rinder" postings/web site can
be used as an example of a bogus posting/ web site, to affirm the idea
that other web sites, etc. are exaggerations or bogus - thus are "dead
agented" - not to be believed.
This sort of nonsense (manipulation), plus making people "shut up," and
also shady real estate speculation, are passions of Scientology Inc.
Muldoon
ladayla
felt like it". It's the "Do What Thou Wilt" 'thingie' that runs rampant
thru scn'ists.
la
Michael Reuss
> twinkling is a very good thing of which I highly approve.
DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT change your nick to "Twinkling Ball of Fluff!"
;-)
Michael Reuss
Honorary Kid
Muldoon
Enlightenment is good; twinkling is good too.
Enlightened twinkling is best.
Ball of Fluff
Readers,
Jana is referring to a conversation on another forum, where, once
again, she started finding fault with my existence on critical forums.
I had written "I felt like it"
In answer to the comments observing that I posted dozens of posts a day
when I first came here (regulars from back in 98 will remember that I
did do so.) and in answer that I replied to flames every time. (and,
yes, you'll remember that I did that too.)
My comment was that, yes, I did so. I felt like it.
It's a newsgroup. It's not a schoolroom where you can't say anything.
It's not an academy, it's not an IAS meeting, it's not some cult thing
where people can't reply or defend themselves if attacked.
It does not make sense to find fault with quantity of posts and it
~especially~ does not make sense to find fault with someone replying to
ad hominem commentary. That has nothing to do with "do what thou wilt".
I am not a Crowley follower and I have never ever said or believed such
a sentiment in my entire life.
I've actually turned money in that I found in the cash machine and
better believe I'd have liked to keep it. I've done many things I did
not feel like doing and have refrained from doing many things I did
feel like doing based on whether it seemed like the right and moral
thing to do or not.
If anyone exemplifies do what thou wilt, it would be someone who
harasses other contributors and posts private information about that
person.
C
Ball of Fluff
Michael Reuss wrote:
> > "Ball of Fluff" <getof...@fluffentology.com> wrote:
>
> > twinkling is a very good thing of which I highly approve.
>
>
> DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT change your nick to "Twinkling Ball of Fluff!"
>
> ;-)
>
Dunno, dude, could be cool...
Don't you think I'm about due for a change of ...something or other??
;->
C
Muldoon
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