Magoo's Valentines Party (2006!)
Magoo
With all of my parties, there's quite a bit of set up to do prior to the
party actually beginning (true for more parties). Michael T was here, and he
agreed to help me clean my home, as well as another friend helped do the
back area, where people always end up chatting while sitting in the twinkle
lights, candles and tables. I have to tell you all, if you've never had an
X-Sea Org member Clean your house, you've missed something amazing.
In the Sea Org, they're taught to "White Glove" ...and of course Hubbard was
a loon at it, so they are dead serious about it. I've known people to be
sent to Ethics, put it "Treason" for flunking their "White Glove". I've had
3 X-Sea Org members help me clean, and it's always a ~totally~ fantastic
experience. (Granted, he said his Mom had him clean that way, and mine did
too, but this has a special perfection that is above the call :)
I decorated the house with hearts, Valentines bowls, candies, etc.
and of course, as always, lots of candles burning.
This party was fantastic! Tons of people came...and a few more than usual.
We had one more OT 8 there, and a Class 8 (both no longer with C of S---way
to go OSA!)
Actually, much of the party last night were X-Sea Org, with a few X-members,
about 4 people no longer with the "Church" <Spit!> and some critics, who are
always a riot to hear them chat with the X-Scios, as they're so
knowledgeable.
Also, the girl I car pool with came, as she hears all about this stuff, and
I wanted her to meet my friends, and see the party. She's helped me find a
location for CNN, find a spot for XM Internet radio, and just learns more
and more about Scientology daily, and can hardly believe it. She was quite
amazing, as she knew so much herself~ We both agreed, it's just fun
listening to everyone chat away.
Each person brought some tasty food to eat, and the table was overflowing
with delicious food, salads, wraps, dips, fruit salad
Michael Pattinson brought and one of the X-members brought the world's
greatest cake! (I'm not sure if you want me to say your names, so please do
if you'd like to).
As usual, the living room was packed, the dining room filled with tasty
foods and drinks, the kitchen always has interesting conversations going
there, and finally my back patio was filled with more discussions. The house
was rockin!
I love each of these people..........truly it makes my heart sing to see
them all together....and hear how much communication, humor and delight
occurs when they all get together.
If you've never been to one of my parties, and you'd like to come,
give me a call. If you came last night, and you'd like to add any comments
to this, please do :)
My best to all.........and Happy Valentines Day!!!
--
Tory/Magoo~Dancing in the moonlight~
In Scientology for 30 years, out happily for 5 years!
For thinking and speaking my mind, Scientology declared me
a 'suppressive person' and expelled me from their so called 'church'
Free at LAST!
http://www.xenu.net, www.xenutv.com
http://www.torymagoo.org, www.altreligionscientology.net
http://www.lermanet.com/cos/toryonosa.htm
"Those that give up essential liberty
to purchase a little temporary safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-- Benjamin Franklin
mag...@charter.net
Burbank, CA
(818) 841-3632
--
Tory/Magoo~Dancing in the moonlight~
In Scientology for 30 years, out happily for 5 years!
For thinking and speaking my mind, Scientology declared me
a 'suppressive person' and expelled me from their so called 'church'
Free at LAST!
http://www.xenu.net, www.xenutv.com
http://www.torymagoo.org, www.altreligionscientology.net
http://www.lermanet.com/cos/toryonosa.htm
"Those that give up essential liberty
to purchase a little temporary safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-- Benjamin Franklin
mag...@charter.net
Burbank, CA
(818) 841-3632
the even harder to handle .Lily Firered.
I was not invited. But I have comments. :) May I? :) Thank you. :)
Tory, my concern is not your appartment before the party, which the
slave made up for you.
My real concern yet is your appartment AFTERWARDS! How's it looking
right now? Who cleans it? Are you living in the mire now? :) Who the
hell does the dishes? Another slave? :)Your car mate? :) Who? Your
mother? :) The guests? :) Bill Yaude? (OH NO!) :)
Dear Tory cleaner: I hope in the meanwhile you got aware of the fact
how much you can charge her per hour for cleaning a house. :) Ask your
syndicate or at any workers-office. And please - send her the bill. :)
.Lily.
>
> My best to all.........and Happy Valentines Day!!!
> --
> Tory/Magoo~Dancing in the moonlight~
> In Scientology for 30 years, out happily for 5 years!
> For thinking and speaking my mind, Scientology declared me
> a 'suppressive person' and expelled me from their so called 'church'
> Free at LAST!
>
>
> --
> Tory/Magoo~Dancing in the moonlight~
some snips of Tory's tel. number. If you want Tory's tel number, please
ask Bill Yaude or Mr. Rinder for it. :) Both are osa bosses, just so
that you know. :)
wbarwell
What a petty little mind you have.
A cowardly -8.0 hider as usual.
Tory Christman Speaks!
Xenu TV
http://www.xenutv.com/
Clambake media vault
http://www.xenu.net/archive/media/Vault/
Tory Christman's website
http://www.torymagoo.org/
************************************************
Tory Christman speaks!
Tory speaks at Santa Barbara on her
experiences in her years in Scientology.
http://www.xenutv.com/panels/tory-sb.htm
Tory speaks of her years in Scientology
and how she was used by OSA for dirty trick
campaigns on the internet.
http://www.xenutv.com/interviews/tory.htm
Tory speaks at the Leo J. Ryan Educational
Foundation Conference on dangerous cults,
speaking on her experiences in Scientology
as a member for nearly 30 years.
http://www.xenutv.com/panels/cultinfo-2001.htm
Tory speaks to Inside Edition on the realities
of Scientology.
http://www.xenutv.com/cruise/ie-062305.htm
See Clambake's media vault for more TV
and Radio programs on Scientology.
http://www.xenu.net/archive/media/Vault/
See Xenu TV for more TV and radio on
Scientology.
http://www.xenutv.com/
Tory Christman Speaks!
Xenu TV
http://www.xenutv.com/
Clambake media vault
http://www.xenu.net/archive/media/Vault/
Tory Christman speaks!
Tory speaks at Santa Barbara on her
experiences in her years in Scientology.
http://www.xenutv.com/panels/tory-sb.htm
Tory speaks of her years in Scientology
and how she was used by OSA for dirty trick
campaigns on the internet.
http://www.xenutv.com/interviews/tory.htm
Tory speaks at the Leo J. Ryan Educational
Foundation Conference on dangerous cults,
speaking on her experiences in Scientology
as a member for nearly 30 years.
http://www.xenutv.com/panels/cultinfo-2001.htm
Tory speaks to Inside Edition on the realities
of Scientology.
http://www.xenutv.com/cruise/ie-062305.htm
See Clambake's media vault for more TV
and Radio programs on Scientology.
http://www.xenu.net/archive/media/Vault/
See Xenu TV for more TV and radio on
Scientology.
http://www.xenutv.com/
Tory Chrisman's site. Speeches,
reports, information, more links
to more media, and much, much more.
Learn the real truth about Scientology.
*************************************************
--
To delight in war is a merit in the soldier, a dangerous
quality in the captain and a positive crime in a statesman.
- George Santayana
Cheerful Charlie
Muldoon
the even harder to handle .Lily Firered. wrote:
"some snips of Tory's tel. number." Oops. You weren't supposed to
leave that part in, Lily.
Dilbert Perkins
it over and over. :)
BTW, unlike most Scientologists who have spent all their money on the
"tech" and now live in apartments, Tory lives in a real house.
Hope you see the light and get out soon, Lily.
he even harder to handle .Lily Firered. wrote:
the even harder to handle .Lily Firered.
Muldoon wrote:
Just to answer your attempt to willingly misinterpret my posting, since
I again forgot my "explanation for scientologists" -PS. Here it is:
<snip>
> >
> > some snips of Tory's tel. number. If you want Tory's tel number, please
> > ask Bill Yaude or Mr. Rinder for it. :) Both are osa bosses, just so
> > that you know. :)
>
> "some snips of Tory's tel. number." Oops. You weren't supposed to
> leave that part in, Lily.
No? Wasn't I? Good that I do not know what scientologists and or osa
expects from me. If the people call Yaude or Rinder they at least know,
whom they in fact call - the office of special affairs, osa, the KGB of
scientology. That was what was important for me to state. It could be
interpreted that I mean, if the people want to call Tory, they could as
well call Rinder/Yaude directly, I mean, why not? That would save
scientology time, effort, eMails, calls from one to the other, wouldn't
it?
.Lily.
the even harder to handle .Lily Firered.
up Tory's house?
Or are you not qualified? Well, have a word with Simkatu, he could be
able to arrange a quick in Sea-Org up Sea-Org X-Sea-Org. Or if you want
I can write the CV for you as well.
.Lily.
the even harder to handle .Lily Firered.
from you?? You are suppressive to give me a star, you know that?
Muldoon got none from you but you gave ME 1!
.Lily.
Truth Seeker
wrote:
>
>What a petty little mind you have.
>A cowardly -8.0 hider as usual.
Oh, I see, everyone that has something critical about the church of
scientology or a scientologist ( Tory is an undercover scientologist )
is hiding, right?
Well, how about you fruitcake, your hiding behind your wbarwell name.
Whats your real name and whats your phone number you fuck. I'll show
you how much I'm hiding you fucking L. Ron ass licker. You hide behind
a whole organization. It takes courage to to speak out against the
church of scientology like I and "lily" does. If anyone is hiding,
it's you and your criminal OSA teamates. Your hiding from life, hiding
in a church, afraid to face life on your own. That's why you joined
the church of scientology, you were afraid to face life on your own.
Your the coward hiding, hiding behind L. Ron's skirt!
Truth Seeker
==========
Truth Seeker
<dilbert...@sbglobal.net> wrote:
>Wow. You Scientologists are really nasty people. Thank you for proving
>it over and over. :)
"Dilbert" or whatever your real name is. Why are you accusing people
of being what in fact you are?
Is that supposed to be some magical way of stoping anyone who
criticizes your church?
Is it working?
What part of the OSA handbook did you read that one in? What page?
Muldoon
the even harder to handle .Lily Firered. wrote:
That was almost a hundred words of hysterical ranting from you.
That's "Oops #2" for you, today.
Oops for the Ops!
ida...@aol.com
auditing and garbage of LRon Hubbard. This is how they try to Keep
$cientology working :(
I knew Tory's party would be a success as all others. Just wish I could
have been there to enjoy all her great guests. Having had many parties
over the years I
know it is great to have help doing the clean up . Also help doing the
set up.
Don't knockTory's party , Lily , when you come out and become and EX ,
maybe you will get an invite.
Ida Camburn
"To rise from error to truth is rare and beautiful" Victor Hugo
Zinj
lily_f...@yahoo.com says...
By their fruits you shall know them; and, Lily, you're as fruity as they
come.
Zinj
--
Scientology: The Science of Believing Anything You Like
This is the 'Tech' This is the Session.
Truth Seeker
wrote:
It all made sense to me.
One thing though, as bad as the KGB was supposed to have been,
comparing OSA and the KGB would be unfair......... to the KGB!, saying
that they are like OSA, that would be insulting the KGB! They were
never that bad. OSA is in a class of their own, the bottom class!
Down their with the pond scum and the bottom feeders. To say that they
are rats would be to insult rats.
Truth Seeker
Really Zitt?
Who is the fruitcake on this newsgroup that quotes a cartoon character
at the bottom by his signature?
Who's the fruit that does that?
the hard to handle .::brick in the wall::.
barwell, the good thing is, that you can come with your strange ratings
and 8's and whatever, this does not touch me, I do not know what that
means. :-) Keep talking to me that way! I sit here and you know what I
do? I twitch my shoulders, and say to myself: I hope, that means
something really, really awful for scientologists, so that they finally
realise, that they have to fear me! :-)
.Lily.
>
> Tory Christman Speaks!
> <snip>
> Cheerful Charlie
wbarwell
Tory rocks, clamheads on ARS suck.
wbarwell
No name turdeter?
-8.0 on the tone scale, hiding.
When did you slide into the low tone valence?
Why do all the clamheads here hide, -8.0 on the
tone scale.
wbarwell
Not my ratings, Hubbard's.
HUBBARD COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE
Saint Hill Manor, East Grinstead, Sussex
Remimeo
PR Hats HCO BULLETIN OF 25 SEPTEMBER 1971RA
D of P Hats REVISED 4 APRIL 1974
TONE SCALE IN FULL
.....
NEEDING BODIES -4.0 SYMBOLS
WORSHIPPING BODIES -5.0 EAT
SACRIFICE -6.0 SEX
HIDING -8.0 MYSTERY
BEING OBJECTS -10.0 WAIT
BEING NOTHING -20.0 UNCONSCIOUS
CAN'T HIDE -30.0
TOTAL FAILURE -40.0 UNKNOWABLE
Hiding, lookit there! -8.0 Looooooooow toned!
that is all of you cowardly, snivelling, can't
confront, clowns. You, Turdleaker if you aren't
one and the same, the usual crew of clamheads
clogging ARS with crap.
Tory Christman does not hide. She has confront.
SERENITY OF BEINGNESS 40.0 KNOW
POSTULATES 30.0 NOT KNOW
GAMES 22.0 KNOW ABOUT
ACTION 20.0 LOOK
EXHILARATION 8.0 PLUS EMOTION
AESTHETIC 6.0
ENTHUSIASM 4.0
She is tone 40, she knows, and she has no fear of confronting
you nasty, nasty little clams. She has her postulates in
and she has arisen above the fear and hate of you operatives
for the clam empire.
She is a Big Person, amd all you hiding clams can do is
scrabble and scratch at her feebly.
Hiding doesn't have any credibility, you know?
Not outside the hothouse degradation
that represents your cult.
wbarwell
> On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:51:13 -0600, wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>What a petty little mind you have.
>>A cowardly -8.0 hider as usual.
>
> Oh, I see, everyone that has something critical about the church of
> scientology or a scientologist ( Tory is an undercover scientologist )
> is hiding, right?
>
Quite hiding, low tone.
Tell us your name, cowardly clam.
Can't? Don't dare?
Clam operative?
HUBBARD COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE
Saint Hill Manor, East Grinstead, Sussex
Remimeo
PR Hats HCO BULLETIN OF 25 SEPTEMBER 1971RA
D of P Hats REVISED 4 APRIL 1974
...
ANXIETY 1.02
FEAR 1.0
DESPAIR .98
TERROR .96
NUMB .94
SYMPATHY .9
PROPITIATION-(HIGHER TONED--SELECTIVELY GIVES) .8
GRIEF .5
MAKING AMENDS-(PROPITIATION-CAN'T W/H ANYTHING) .375
UNDESERVING .3
SELF-ABASEMENT .2
VICTIM .1
HOPELESS .07
APATHY .05
USELESS .03
DYING .01
BODY DEATH 0.0
FAILURE 0.0
PITY -0.1
SHAME- (BEING OTHER BODIES) -0.2
ACCOUNTABLE -0.7
BLAME- (PUNISHING OTHER BODIES) -1.0
REGRET- (RESPONSIBILITY AS BLAME) -1.3
CONTROLLING BODIES -1.5 EFFORT
PROTECTING BODIES -2.2
OWNING BODIES -3.0 THINK
APPROVAL FROM BODIES -3.5
NEEDING BODIES -4.0 SYMBOLS
WORSHIPPING BODIES -5.0 EAT
SACRIFICE -6.0 SEX
HIDING -8.0 MYSTERY
BEING OBJECTS -10.0 WAIT
BEING NOTHING -20.0 UNCONSCIOUS
CAN'T HIDE -30.0
TOTAL FAILURE -40.0 UNKNOWABLE
-----------------
I just want the lurkers and newbies and others to note
the Hubbard tone scale. The higher you go, the better.
Niote, all these Scientologist clamheads here refuse
to ever use their true names.
Hiding, hiding, hiding.
Naturally, on the net, nameless clowns lose credibity
for being unwilling to use their real names.
But herem, the culties have no excuse for igniorance
as their own guru tells them hiding, sneaking,
cowardice like this is very low toned.
Below death! yes, cowardly thetans, souls that are
are so low toned they are below dead.
Your cult tone scale, not mine.
Your low tone, not mine.
Isn't scientology fun?
Magoo
"Muldoon" <bria...@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
news:1139773890.9...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
You're in hiding, aren't you? No one is invited who won't communicate with
me personally. Most people here understand that perfectly well.....and I'm
sure you do, too, however you've got a 'Program" to run, don't you? Let's
hear it:
But I have comments. :) May I? :) Thank you. :)
Did I say yes? Flunk for out comm cycle.
>>
>> Tory, my concern is not your appartment before the party, which the
>> slave made up for you.
Funny how when the Sea Org cleans, they're "Upstats" and even
"OT"..............but when an X-Scientologist validates an x-Sea org members
talents,
suddenly they're "slaves". Right......and I said "We cleaned"...but I guess
you missed that, too.
>>
>> My real concern yet is your appartment AFTERWARDS! How's it looking
>> right now? Who cleans it?
It's fine. It was clean before the people left....nice try on black pr,
but certainly NO cigar. And let's get the FACTS straight here;
you don't give a damn about my home. You want to slime me and anyone who
came.
Are you living in the mire now? :) Who the
>> hell does the dishes?
You're funny.
Another slave? :)Your car mate? :) Who? Your
>> mother? :) The guests? :) Bill Yaude? (OH NO!) :)
Oh...........and I guess you can't read the actual fun we had, or even
imagine that a supposed "SP" might be clean. That's impossible per your
briefings. Thanks for the demo of mind control: It's deep!
>>
>> Dear Tory cleaner: I hope in the meanwhile you got aware of the fact
>> how much you can charge her per hour for cleaning a house. :) Ask your
>> syndicate or at any workers-office. And please - send her the bill. :)
Was that supposed to mean ~anything~~to anyone?
So sorry you missed the party, "Lilly", we all have a great time,
and even had more fun today with barbz!
Tory/Magoo~~
Magoo
"the even harder to handle .Lily Firered." <lily_f...@yahoo.com> wrote in
message news:1139774676....@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Why are you all SO busy trying to black pr me? You sure seem
afraid the 'inmates' will call, and guess what? THEY ARE!
Here's my number, for anyone who would like to contact me
to find out the truth that these folks certainly will not tell you:
Tory/Magoo~~
(818) 841-3632
Burbank, CA
www.xenu.net
www.xenutv.com
www.torymagoo.org
www.altreligionscientology.org
>
Magoo
<ida...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1139776595.4...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Dilbert I over-look the nasty and just remember they are sick from the
> auditing and garbage of LRon Hubbard. This is how they try to Keep
> $cientology working :(
Excellent points, Ida! And by the way, we LOVED the fudge!!!!!
Thank you :)
((Man, that woman can make D E L I C I O U S fudge!))
>
> I knew Tory's party would be a success as all others. Just wish I could
> have been there to enjoy all her great guests. Having had many parties
> over the years I
> know it is great to have help doing the clean up . Also help doing the
> set up.
Thanks Mom...........you were spoken of highly, and we all missed having
you here.
>
> Don't knockTory's party , Lily , when you come out and become and EX ,
> maybe you will get an invite.
LOL...............good points :)
Love to you,
Tory/Magoo~~
Feisty
"Magoo" <mag...@charter.net> wrote in message news:43ef800a$1...@news2.lightlink.com...
Darn I missed it! Sounds like it was an all around great time. Neat to be able to enjoy
such freedom and fun with good friends, sharing words, food and friendliness. Much better
than being in a cult for sure! Glad all had a good time.
Happy Valentines Day!
Feisty
************************************************
Tory Christman speaks!
Tory Christman Speaks!
Tory Christman speaks!
> --
Michael Pattinson
Reading what you wrote it seems I brought an XSO member who was
delicious????
LOL
M..
Magoo
"Truth Seeker" <asd...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uh5vu1h3s6b3obhvm...@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:51:13 -0600, wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>What a petty little mind you have.
>>A cowardly -8.0 hider as usual.
>
> Oh, I see, everyone that has something critical about the church of
> scientology or a scientologist ( Tory is an undercover scientologist )
> is hiding, right?
Yes! I'm reeeeeeeeeeeeally in hiding:
www.xenutv.com
(Check out CNN, Inside Edition, Radar Magazine, etc.)
Listen you moron: YOU are the absolute idiot that has posted
9,000 times that "Proof that Tory is OSA" is that I wouldn't go on TV.
Well you floormat, I have gone on TV....and you're still posting your
same futile black pr. HELLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOO.....
Who are you? Who's undercover?
>
> Well, how about you fruitcake, your hiding behind your wbarwell name.
> Whats your real name and whats your phone number you fuck. I'll show
> you how much I'm hiding you fucking L. Ron ass licker. You hide behind
> a whole organization. It takes courage to to speak out against the
> church of scientology like I and "lily" does.
Yes...it takes deep courage to slander critics of Scientology day and night.
I know you *think* wogs are stupid, but here's a clue:
YOU are the only two looking ~that~ stupid.
If anyone is hiding,
> it's you and your criminal OSA teamates. Your hiding from life, hiding
> in a church, afraid to face life on your own. That's why you joined
> the church of scientology, you were afraid to face life on your own.
Sad, pathetic.............stupid floormats.
>
> Your the coward hiding, hiding behind L. Ron's skirt!
>
>
> Truth Seeker
Who is "Truthseeker"? Oh that's right: NO ONE KNOWS, he/she won't say,
they're at the bottom of the Tone Scale: FEAR.
You know who I am, so does the rest of the world, for the most part, who's
part of this Scientology discussion, and you can call me. Can you call TS?
Watch where the keys go. If it walks like a duck.........
Tory/Magoo~~
> ==========
Magoo
I hadn't even seen all of that.
I appreciate you pointing that out, amidst the attempted sliming.
It's always good for people to listen, read, hear, look at both sides,
decide for themselves: Something you will ~~never~~hear TS say.
My best,
Tory/Magoo~~
"wbarwell" <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:11uvfpf...@corp.supernews.com...
Magoo
"Feisty" <su...@skytoday.com> wrote in message
news:%NPHf.5380$rL5....@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
Thanks, Feisty! You were missed here, too.
Yes, you are most correct, it's always ~~amazing~~to hear all of the
variety of converstations going on at one of these parties.
Happy Valetines Day to you :)
Tory/Magoo~~
Magoo
"Michael Pattinson" <mpatt...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1139788409.0...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Great party Tory!
> Reading what you wrote it seems I brought an XSO member who was
> delicious????
> LOL
Did I say that? I thought I said you brought the fruit salad that was
delicious, but hey..........OSA can wonder who you brought all night.
They may even have a program out to figure out who? LOL....
Good one~
It was great having you here, and let's get together again
soon.
Tory/Magoo~~
Rev. Norle Enturbulata
But of course, and as usual, you've not really said anything at all.
--
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http://PerkinsTragedy.org - http://www.xenutv.net
http://www.whyaretheydead.net
http://www.xenu.net
http://www.xenutv.com
http://www.scientology-lies.com
http://www.whyaretheydead.net
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Rev. Norle Enturbulata
"Church" of Cartoonism
*
* " You can write that down in your book in great big letters. The only way
you can control anybody is to lie to them."
* -- L. Ron Hubbard, "Technique 88"
*
* "...Never discuss Scientology with the critic. Just discuss his or her
crimes, known and unknown. And act completely confident that those crimes
exist...."
* L. Ron Hubbard, "Critics of Scientology", November 5, 1967
*
* "All men shall be my slaves! All women shall succumb to my charms! All
mankind shall grovel at my feet and not know why!"
- L. Ron Hubbard, "Personal Affirmations"
wbarwell
> Wow! Thanks................:)
>
> I hadn't even seen all of that.
>
> I appreciate you pointing that out, amidst the attempted sliming.
> It's always good for people to listen, read, hear, look at both sides,
> decide for themselves: Something you will ~~never~~hear TS say.
>
Yes, when faced with hate and attempts to clog
communications and make people get angry, all
one can do is speak the truth loudly.
Hubbo said communication is good.
I shall be looking at ways to cut through this
all and wash the hate and smears away with truth,
facts and information.
TS blew it to day and as much as admitted he is
an operative trying to halt communication.
If you missed it, here he is in all his glory.
*************************************************
From: Truth Seeker <asd...@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: Truth Seeker, what books about
Scientology and Hubbard do you recommend?
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Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 20:19:16 GMT
I recommend that you smarten up and stop being a
stupid idiot before it gets too late.
All you are doing is giving me more and more
"motivators" which is making this easier and
easier to do. I really feel sorry for you guys,
I really do. You have a nighmare coming to you
down the road. Your going down a dead end street
80 miles and hour and you don't even know
it.
Remember, I have warned you. You can still
turn back before it gets too late. You think
that you know what you are up against, but
you do not.
Remember, you have been warned.
*************************************************
"All you are doing is giving me more and more
"motivators" which is making this easier and
easier to do"
Here it is. No that we did not know, but its
always nice to see them screw up and admit it.
Clip and save so you can throw his admission
in his ugly face. He played a game here and lost!
Hubbard would be so angry. Bad clam, report to
ethics! Its always a joy when they screw up.
-------------------------------------
Tory Christman Speaks!
Xenu TV
http://www.xenutv.com/
Clambake media vault
http://www.xenu.net/archive/media/Vault/
Tory Christman's website
http://www.torymagoo.org/
************************************************
Tory Christman speaks!
Tory speaks at Santa Barbara on her
experiences in her years in Scientology.
http://www.xenutv.com/panels/tory-sb.htm
Tory speaks of her years in Scientology
and how she was used by OSA for dirty trick
campaigns on the internet.
http://www.xenutv.com/interviews/tory.htm
Tory speaks at the Leo J. Ryan Educational
Foundation Conference on dangerous cults,
speaking on her experiences in Scientology
as a member for nearly 30 years.
http://www.xenutv.com/panels/cultinfo-2001.htm
Tory speaks to Inside Edition on the realities
of Scientology.
http://www.xenutv.com/cruise/ie-062305.htm
------------------------------------------------
See Clambake's media vault for more TV
and Radio programs on Scientology.
http://www.xenu.net/archive/media/Vault/
See Xenu TV for more TV and radio on
Scientology.
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Tory Chrisman's site. Speeches,
reports, information, more links
to more media, and much, much more.
Learn the real truth about Scientology.
*************************************************
--
"If I saw a man beating a tied up horse, I could
not prove it was wrong, but I'd know it was wrong."
- Mark Twain
Cheerful Charlie
wbarwell
> Dilbert, instead of writing stupid things, why don't you go and clean
> up Tory's house?
>
> Or are you not qualified? Well, have a word with Simkatu, he could be
> able to arrange a quick in Sea-Org up Sea-Org X-Sea-Org. Or if you want
> I can write the CV for you as well.
>
> .Lily.
Turdleaker, is that you in that sock puppet?
wbarwell
>
> "Truth Seeker" <asd...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:uh5vu1h3s6b3obhvm...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:51:13 -0600, wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>What a petty little mind you have.
>>>A cowardly -8.0 hider as usual.
>>
>> Oh, I see, everyone that has something critical about the church of
>> scientology or a scientologist ( Tory is an undercover scientologist )
>> is hiding, right?
>
> Yes! I'm reeeeeeeeeeeeally in hiding:
> www.xenutv.com
> (Check out CNN, Inside Edition, Radar Magazine, etc.)
> Listen you moron: YOU are the absolute idiot that has posted
> 9,000 times that "Proof that Tory is OSA" is that I wouldn't go on TV.
> Well you floormat, I have gone on TV....and you're still posting your
> same futile black pr. HELLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOO.....
> Who are you? Who's undercover?
>>
He's pulling your chain.
Don't let him.
Just send people to see for themselves.
Dilbert Perkins
religion and learn how to be good and kind?
the even harder to handle .Lily Firered. wrote:
> Dilbert, instead of writing stupid things, why don't you go and clean
> up Tory's house?
>
> Or are you not qualified? Well, have a word with Simkatu, he could be
> able to arrange a quick in Sea-Org up Sea-Org X-Sea-Org. Or if you want
> I can write the CV for you as well.
>
> .Lily.
>
> Dilbert Perkins wrote:
>
>>Wow. You Scientologists are really nasty people. Thank you for proving
>>it over and over. :)
>>
>>BTW, unlike most Scientologists who have spent all their money on the
>>"tech" and now live in apartments, Tory lives in a real house.
>>
>>Hope you see the light and get out soon, Lily.
>>
>>he even harder to handle .Lily Firered. wrote:
>>
>>>I was not invited. But I have comments. :) May I? :) Thank you. :)
>>>
>>>Tory, my concern is not your appartment before the party, which the
>>>slave made up for you.
>>>
>>>My real concern yet is your appartment AFTERWARDS! How's it looking
>>>right now? Who cleans it? Are you living in the mire now? :) Who the
>>>hell does the dishes? Another slave? :)Your car mate? :) Who? Your
>>>mother? :) The guests? :) Bill Yaude? (OH NO!) :)
>>>
>>>Dear Tory cleaner: I hope in the meanwhile you got aware of the fact
>>>how much you can charge her per hour for cleaning a house. :) Ask your
>>>syndicate or at any workers-office. And please - send her the bill. :)
>>>
>>>.Lily.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>My best to all.........and Happy Valentines Day!!!
>>>>--
>>>>Tory/Magoo~Dancing in the moonlight~
>>>>In Scientology for 30 years, out happily for 5 years!
>>>>For thinking and speaking my mind, Scientology declared me
>>>>a 'suppressive person' and expelled me from their so called 'church'
>>>>Free at LAST!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Tory/Magoo~Dancing in the moonlight~
>>>
>>>
barbz
Considering the marvellous hospitality Tory offers, it's the least
guests can do.
--
--
Barb
Chaplain, ARSCC
xenu...@netscape.net
"Every week, every month, every year, every decade and now
every century, Scientology does weird and stupid things
to damage its own reputation."
-Steve Zadarnowski
"Comparing Scientology to a motorcycle gang is a gross, unpardonable
insult to bikers everywhere. Even at our worst, we are never as bad as
Scientology."
-ex-member, Thunderclouds motorcycle "club"
"$cientology sees the world this way: One man with a picket sign:
terrorism. Five thousand people dead in a deliberate inferno: business
opportunity.
$cientology oozes _under_ terrorists to hide."
-Chris Leithiser
barbz
> My best to all.........and Happy Valentines Day!!!
I rode up from San Diego for the party. (of course, you know that, don't
you, OSA) Traffic was Clear until just north of the Firestone building,
a landmark 15 minutes south of downtown LA. (Lord and traffic willing,
it's 15)
I had to split lanes past downtown LA, then it was smooth sailing, and I
got to Tory's a little after the designated target hour. Not quite
fashionably late, but when am I ever "fashionable?"
Saw many old friends, met a few new ones, and had a great time! I
brought Tory a bag of Meyer lemons; not exactly a party contribution,
but fresh off the bush and wonderful for lemonade or lemon merangue pie.
The last people finally doodled off around 2:00 am. It was chilly, so
Tory invited me to spend the night. I'd monitored my wine intake and
switched to soda, as I planned to drive back down that night. She
convinced me to stay, and ride home Sunday, which I did. It was an
absolutely delightful ride home, traffic was light and well mannered,
and it was warm until Dana Point, where the freeway swings west to
parallel the coast. I stopped to put on my fleece underjacket at the
rest stop at Pendleton, and was comfy all the rest of the way home.
When I got back here, I called my neighbor to give her some of the fudge
Ida made. She told me that, Saturday night, a car pulled in to our
driveway, which NEVER happens. When they saw her looking out her window,
they left.
Tch, tch. Whatever did you have in mind, OSA? Or was it just a
coincidence that someone decided to park in my driveway while I was up
at Tory's party?
Cheers to all I saw up there! I had a wonderful time!
barbz
> Instead of writing mean and nasty things, why don't you practice a real
> religion and learn how to be good and kind?
>
> the even harder to handle .Lily Firered. wrote:
>
>> Dilbert, instead of writing stupid things, why don't you go and clean
>> up Tory's house?
>>
>> Or are you not qualified? Well, have a word with Simkatu, he could be
>> able to arrange a quick in Sea-Org up Sea-Org X-Sea-Org. Or if you want
>> I can write the CV for you as well.
>>
>> .Lily.
>>
>> Dilbert Perkins wrote:
>>
>>> Wow. You Scientologists are really nasty people. Thank you for proving
>>> it over and over. :)
>>>
>>> BTW, unlike most Scientologists who have spent all their money on the
>>> "tech" and now live in apartments, Tory lives in a real house.
>>>
>>> Hope you see the light and get out soon, Lily.
>>>
>>> he even harder to handle .Lily Firered. wrote:
>>>
>>>> Magoo wrote:
<snip>
Is it any wonder she wasn't invited? Hey, maybe we should have a pig
party and invite "the harder to handle Lily Firend."
It wouldn't be hard to pick out the pig.
Magoo
> Magoo wrote:
>
>>
>> "Truth Seeker" <asd...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:uh5vu1h3s6b3obhvm...@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:51:13 -0600, wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>What a petty little mind you have.
>>>>A cowardly -8.0 hider as usual.
>>>
>>> Oh, I see, everyone that has something critical about the church of
>>> scientology or a scientologist ( Tory is an undercover scientologist )
>>> is hiding, right?
>>
>> Yes! I'm reeeeeeeeeeeeally in hiding:
>> www.xenutv.com
>> (Check out CNN, Inside Edition, Radar Magazine, etc.)
>> Listen you moron: YOU are the absolute idiot that has posted
>> 9,000 times that "Proof that Tory is OSA" is that I wouldn't go on TV.
>> Well you floormat, I have gone on TV....and you're still posting your
>> same futile black pr. HELLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOO.....
>> Who are you? Who's undercover?
>>>
>
> He's pulling your chain.
I appreciate your posting the links, however, I have my own way of answering
people, and my own reasons. They may not make sense to you, but I promise
you.........I have a reason, and he/she is not "Pulling
my chain". Thanks for the suggestion, and keep posting the links: Great
idea!
Best,
Tory/Magoo~~
> Don't let him.
I don't.
>
> Just send people to see for themselves.
I get lots of feedback from people, and one of the most common backs up
how I post. I'd say more, but OSA will just use it against me....and harm
others.
T
Magoo
"Dilbert Perkins" <dilbert...@sbglobal.net> wrote in message
news:I5THf.56304$PL5....@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
> Instead of writing mean and nasty things, why don't you practice a real
> religion and learn how to be good and kind?
Here's the irony of Scientology:
While opening up phony accouts so Bill Yaude and mafioso's from OSA could
"Handle the critics on the Internet"........I was SURE I was doing what was
good. I was SURE that must be helping mankind.
Scientology builds in all kinds of jingles in your head, and phobias,
so when they need something, they can just click into that. "Only the able
survive in Scientology". "Make it go right", etc.
Good? They're positive stoppping free speech is 'good'.
Kind? They're sure harming "SP's" is kind, and helping mankind.
Ya see?
If you're IN Scientology: BAIL WHILE YOU CAN.
If you're considering joining: READ ALL YOU CAN BEFORE YOU DO.
If you have family "in", please don't censor yourself from speaking out,
thinking that will help your kids, husband, wife, etc. It won't!
Not speaking out ONLY prolongs their mind control.
If everyone who was "in" spoke up about the abuses, and everyone out who
KNEW of the abuses spoke out...............the organization known as C of S
would be no more, and DM and gang would experience in full the Karma they so
much deserve: No doubt they'd be behind bars....where they belong for the
damage they have knowingly done to ~~many~~ others.
Tory/Magoo~~
X-Scientologists and proud of it!
Free at LAST!
www.xenu.net
www.xenutv.com
www.lermanet.com/cos/toryonosa.htm
www.torymagoo.org
Larry T.
(SNIP)
> If everyone who was "in" spoke up about the abuses, and everyone out who
> KNEW of the abuses spoke out...............the organization known as C of
> S would be no more, and DM and gang would experience in full the Karma
> they so much deserve: No doubt they'd be behind bars....where they belong
> for the damage they have knowingly done to ~~many~~ others.
That is hard to argue with, and most likely true, but fortunately I was
spared having overts done on me by DM {that would have been a real treat
huh?}.
--
http://mysite.verizon.net/toomajan
Larry
> Tory/Magoo~~
> X-Scientologists and proud of it!
> Free at LAST!
> www.xenu.net
> www.xenutv.com
> www.lermanet.com/cos/toryonosa.htm
> www.torymagoo.org
(SNIP)
Magoo
"barbz" <xenu...@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:NrTHf.38568$JT.24053@fed1read06...
Sooooooooooooo glad you came, and I'm happy you spent the night.
As always, when the cats away.....the mice will play :) We mice had fun
planning something very fun we'll tell all later once it's rolling.
Thanks for the tasty lemons, barz, and mostly for making it up for the
party. Glad you had a delightful trip back .....
Best,
Tory/Magoo~~
Uncle Tom's manor
Magoo wrote:
> The night began perfectly, with the full moon out (my favorite).
You post like a woman in moon trance. It's possible that your neighbors
see you on the roof and are afraid to approach you.
~~~~
"I thought I was an alien myself. So I am in fact a space alien invader
disguised as psychiatrist plotting and conspiring all day long." --
Senior psychiatrist Ulf Brettstam
"ECT (Electro Convulsive Therapy), one of the best validated medical
treatment in the history of medicine." -- Senior psychiatrist Ulf
Brettstam
And now dig this: http://www.ect.org/effects.shtml
~~~~
Victoria ("Tory" "Magoo") Christman: "F*ck you!"
(She was found in contempt of court for refusing to give up her
harassment.) She disconnected from husband and son. Just ran out of
them.
Magoo
"Uncle Tom's manor" <Uncl...@saintly.com> wrote in message
news:1139805102....@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
> Magoo wrote:
>> The night began perfectly, with the full moon out (my favorite).
>
> You post like a woman in moon trance.
I'm sorry you forgot what it's like to be happy, and certainly have zero
ability to 'grant beingness'.
It's possible that your neighbors
> see you on the roof and are afraid to approach you.
And it's quite possible your head is up your ass, but then
do we care is the question......and besides, there's a new rundown for
that!!!
Tory/Magoo~~
Keith Henson
wrote:
>The night began perfectly, with the full moon out (my favorite).
It was really nice.
snip
>Actually, much of the party last night were X-Sea Org, with a few X-members,
>about 4 people no longer with the "Church" <Spit!> and some critics, who are
>always a riot to hear them chat with the X-Scios, as they're so
>knowledgeable.
We still get lost when X-Scios really get into it. It's a different
language.
snip
>If you've never been to one of my parties, and you'd like to come,
>give me a call. If you came last night, and you'd like to add any comments
>to this, please do :)
Sorry I missed the party Tory, things just didn't work out. Maybe
next time.
>My best to all.........and Happy Valentines Day!!!
And best to you.
Keith Henson
wbarwell
>
> Magoo wrote:
>> The night began perfectly, with the full moon out (my favorite).
>
> You post like a woman in moon trance. It's possible that your neighbors
> see you on the roof and are afraid to approach you.
> ~~~~
What a weak, stupid, snivelling, attack.
How many thousands of dollars did you pay
Stupiology to learn to communicate?
Is this what Stupidology makes you into?
You seem to be in a Hubbard trance.
What a miserable way to blunder through life.
Rev. Norle Enturbulata
do's.
"Magoo" <mag...@charter.net> wrote in message
news:43ef800a$1...@news2.lightlink.com...
> The night began perfectly, with the full moon out (my favorite).
>
> With all of my parties, there's quite a bit of set up to do prior to the
> party actually beginning (true for more parties). Michael T was here, and
> he agreed to help me clean my home, as well as another friend helped do
> the back area, where people always end up chatting while sitting in the
> twinkle lights, candles and tables. I have to tell you all, if you've
> never had an X-Sea Org member Clean your house, you've missed something
> amazing.
>
> In the Sea Org, they're taught to "White Glove" ...and of course Hubbard
> was a loon at it, so they are dead serious about it. I've known people to
> be sent to Ethics, put it "Treason" for flunking their "White Glove". I've
> had 3 X-Sea Org members help me clean, and it's always a ~totally~
> fantastic experience. (Granted, he said his Mom had him clean that way,
> and mine did too, but this has a special perfection that is above the call
> :)
>
> I decorated the house with hearts, Valentines bowls, candies, etc.
> and of course, as always, lots of candles burning.
>
> This party was fantastic! Tons of people came...and a few more than usual.
> We had one more OT 8 there, and a Class 8 (both no longer with C of
> S---way to go OSA!)
>
> Actually, much of the party last night were X-Sea Org, with a few
> X-members, about 4 people no longer with the "Church" <Spit!> and some
> critics, who are always a riot to hear them chat with the X-Scios, as
> they're so knowledgeable.
>
> Also, the girl I car pool with came, as she hears all about this stuff,
> and I wanted her to meet my friends, and see the party. She's helped me
> find a location for CNN, find a spot for XM Internet radio, and just
> learns more and more about Scientology daily, and can hardly believe it.
> She was quite amazing, as she knew so much herself~ We both agreed, it's
> just fun listening to everyone chat away.
>
> Each person brought some tasty food to eat, and the table was overflowing
> with delicious food, salads, wraps, dips, fruit salad
> Michael Pattinson brought and one of the X-members brought the world's
> greatest cake! (I'm not sure if you want me to say your names, so please
> do if you'd like to).
>
> As usual, the living room was packed, the dining room filled with tasty
> foods and drinks, the kitchen always has interesting conversations going
> there, and finally my back patio was filled with more discussions. The
> house was rockin!
>
> I love each of these people..........truly it makes my heart sing to see
> them all together....and hear how much communication, humor and delight
> occurs when they all get together.
>
> If you've never been to one of my parties, and you'd like to come,
> give me a call. If you came last night, and you'd like to add any comments
> to this, please do :)
>
> My best to all.........and Happy Valentines Day!!!
> --
> Tory/Magoo~Dancing in the moonlight~
> In Scientology for 30 years, out happily for 5 years!
> For thinking and speaking my mind, Scientology declared me
> a 'suppressive person' and expelled me from their so called 'church'
> Free at LAST!
> http://www.xenu.net, www.xenutv.com
> http://www.torymagoo.org, www.altreligionscientology.net
> http://www.lermanet.com/cos/toryonosa.htm
>
> "Those that give up essential liberty
> to purchase a little temporary safety,
> deserve neither liberty nor safety."
> -- Benjamin Franklin
> mag...@charter.net
> Burbank, CA
> (818) 841-3632
>
>
> --
> Tory/Magoo~Dancing in the moonlight~
> In Scientology for 30 years, out happily for 5 years!
> For thinking and speaking my mind, Scientology declared me
> a 'suppressive person' and expelled me from their so called 'church'
> Free at LAST!
the hard to handle .::brick in the wall::.
barbz wrote:
> Dilbert Perkins wrote:
>
> > Instead of writing mean and nasty things, why don't you practice a real
> > religion and learn how to be good and kind?
> >
> > the even harder to handle .Lily Firered. wrote:
> >
> >> Dilbert, instead of writing stupid things, why don't you go and clean
> >> up Tory's house?
> >>
> >> Or are you not qualified? Well, have a word with Simkatu, he could be
> >> able to arrange a quick in Sea-Org up Sea-Org X-Sea-Org. Or if you want
> >> I can write the CV for you as well.
> >>
> >> .Lily.
> >>
> >> Dilbert Perkins wrote:
> >>
> >>> Wow. You Scientologists are really nasty people. Thank you for proving
> >>> it over and over. :)
> >>>
> >>> BTW, unlike most Scientologists who have spent all their money on the
> >>> "tech" and now live in apartments, Tory lives in a real house.
> >>>
> >>> Hope you see the light and get out soon, Lily.
> >>>
> >>> he even harder to handle .Lily Firered. wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Magoo wrote:
> <snip>
>
> Is it any wonder she wasn't invited? Hey, maybe we should have a pig
> party
>
So what did you have until now?
>and invite "the harder to handle Lily Firend."
my guess is, she would not come
> It wouldn't be hard to pick out the pig.
And sometimes one is not able to see the forest due to the lots of
trees.
>
> --
> --
> Barb
> Chaplain, ARSCC
> xenu...@netscape.net
Hey barb, where is your Touretzky-quote? Doesn't he like to be
mentioned by you?
.::brick in the wall::.
the hard to handle .::brick in the wall::.
Magoo wrote:
> "Truth Seeker" <asd...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:uh5vu1h3s6b3obhvm...@4ax.com...
> > On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:51:13 -0600, wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>What a petty little mind you have.
> >>A cowardly -8.0 hider as usual.
<snip>
> Who is "Truthseeker"? Oh that's right: NO ONE KNOWS, he/she won't say,
> they're at the bottom of the Tone Scale: FEAR.
What if he, like I, does not give anything at all about your
tone-scale, Magoo? What then?
>
> You know who I am, so does the rest of the world, for the most part, who's
> part of this Scientology discussion, and you can call me. Can you call TS?
>
> Watch where the keys go. If it walks like a duck.........
>
> Tory/Magoo~~
> > ==========
Speaking about tone scale: you are according to that scale -30, which
is "can't hide". Aren't you?
Andrew Robertson
"Truth Seeker" <asd...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uh5vu1h3s6b3obhvm...@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:51:13 -0600, wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com>
<snip>
> Well, how about you fruitcake, your [you're] hiding behind your wbarwell
> name.
> Whats [What's] your real name and whats [what's] your phone number you
> fuck.
Bravo Mr T! That's real Tone 40 stuff.
I wonder if there's any way to find out who this mysterious 'wbarwell' is?
Probable not, as he's no doubt hiding behind many layers of deceit and
subterfuge.
But let's see if he's given any inadvertent clues as to his identity.
If we take every second letter and swap it with the first then we get
'bwraewll'. Now reverse it, 'llwearwb' This could be Welsh but I have a
suspicion that the origin of his name lies to the north-east of that
principality, in the Great Forest of Leicester.
So let's swap every letter with the one preceding it and reverse the first
and last letters and append the vital clue from 'Cheerful Charlie', and
voila, his name is revealed: Barwell W C. I just wonder if, of the many
thousands of William Charles Barwells that reside in the conurbation of
Houston in the Lone Star State, one could be the outlaw you seek? Could
http://www.whitepages.com/ reveal this information? Does Charles give
tuppence whether Helena knows where he lives?
Anyway nice talking to you Mr T. I hope everything's fine in Spring Avenue
and you've sorted out the problem with the Goodwin's cat.
Andrew
> I'll show
> you how much I'm hiding you fucking L. Ron ass licker. You hide behind
> a whole organization. It takes courage to to speak out against the
> church [Church] of scientology [Scientology] like I and "lily" [Lily and
> I] does [do]. If anyone is hiding,
> it's you and your criminal OSA teamates. Your [You're] hiding from life,
> hiding
> in a church, afraid to face life on your own. That's why you joined
> the church [Church] of scientology, [Scientology] you were afraid to face
> life on your own.
>
> Your [You're] the coward hiding, hiding behind L. Ron's skirt!
>
>
> Truth Seeker
> ==========
Rev. Norle Enturbulata
"Uncle Tom's manor" <Uncl...@saintly.com> wrote in message
news:1139805102....@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
>> The night began perfectly, with the full moon out (my favorite).
>
> You post like a woman in moon trance. It's possible that your neighbors
> see you on the roof and are afraid to approach you.
Such mindless blather is common for Scientology members sent to attack
someone who's really being "at cause" over the Scientology cult. I'd say
however that it was the drones your cult sent to park in Barbz' driveway -
people wise to your tricks call it a "calling card", and know that your cult
thinks such behavior will somehow frighten critics (and "shudder into
silence" as Hubbard put it) - that were actually under the "moon trance",
whatever that is.
It's actually far more possible that the general public will now come up to
the car and scare you cowards away, asking what you're doing. All it took
was a little old lady looking out the window to scare these drones away.
What a brave bunch, Scientologists! Keep it up.
Howard
>
<snip amusing banter>
>
> Anyway nice talking to you Mr T. I hope everything's fine in Spring Avenue
> and you've sorted out the problem with the Goodwin's cat.
Damn Mr R, you're up late tomorrow night - it'll all end in tears,
you know.
I'd be reluctant to let him anywhere near a cat of mine. Just as I'd
want to stay out of range from Mr Cheney...
Howard
--
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barbz
> On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 10:35:54 -0800, "Magoo" <mag...@charter.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>The night began perfectly, with the full moon out (my favorite).
>
>
> It was really nice.
>
> snip
>
>
>>Actually, much of the party last night were X-Sea Org, with a few X-members,
>>about 4 people no longer with the "Church" <Spit!> and some critics, who are
>>always a riot to hear them chat with the X-Scios, as they're so
>>knowledgeable.
>
>
> We still get lost when X-Scios really get into it. It's a different
> language.
Not true, Keith. Guy told a joke about OTVIII.
"It'll be another HCOB. Do TR-0 and GET IT RIGHT, THIS TIME."
I laughed. Then I laughed even harder, because I realized I got the joke!
Everyone else thought that was real funny. Keep in mind, I AM a linguist!
I was a parrot in my last life. Awk! Cracker!
>
> snip
>
>
>>If you've never been to one of my parties, and you'd like to come,
>>give me a call. If you came last night, and you'd like to add any comments
>>to this, please do :)
>
>
> Sorry I missed the party Tory, things just didn't work out. Maybe
> next time.
>
>
>>My best to all.........and Happy Valentines Day!!!
>
>
> And best to you.
>
> Keith Henson
--
--
Barb
Chaplain, ARSCC
xenu...@netscape.net
"Every week, every month, every year, every decade and now
realpch
I do feel happy and relieved for the poor little quail though.
Peach
wbarwell
You know they will never let VP Cheney get near
a gun again. The Secret Service guys would have get
hazardous pay escorting him to such a thing again.
"Thank gawd! It coulda been one of th' dawgs!"
Michael Pattinson
Susan
"Andrew Robertson" <a...@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
news:43f0...@news2.lightlink.com...
>
Andrew,
That is hilarious! An ars classic :-)
You are so talented :-)
Susan
Susan
>
> party actually beginning (true for more parties). Michael T was here, and
> he agreed to help me clean my home, as well as another friend helped do
> the back area, where people always end up chatting while sitting in the
> twinkle lights, candles and tables. I have to tell you all, if you've
> never had an X-Sea Org member Clean your house, you've missed something
> amazing.
>
> In the Sea Org, they're taught to "White Glove" ...and of course Hubbard
> was a loon at it, so they are dead serious about it. I've known people to
> be sent to Ethics, put it "Treason" for flunking their "White Glove". I've
> had 3 X-Sea Org members help me clean, and it's always a ~totally~
> fantastic experience. (Granted, he said his Mom had him clean that way,
> and mine did too, but this has a special perfection that is above the call
> :)
>
> I decorated the house with hearts, Valentines bowls, candies, etc.
> and of course, as always, lots of candles burning.
>
> This party was fantastic! Tons of people came...and a few more than usual.
> We had one more OT 8 there, and a Class 8 (both no longer with C of
> S---way to go OSA!)
>
> X-members, about 4 people no longer with the "Church" <Spit!> and some
> critics, who are always a riot to hear them chat with the X-Scios, as
> they're so knowledgeable.
>
> and I wanted her to meet my friends, and see the party. She's helped me
> find a location for CNN, find a spot for XM Internet radio, and just
> learns more and more about Scientology daily, and can hardly believe it.
> She was quite amazing, as she knew so much herself~ We both agreed, it's
> just fun listening to everyone chat away.
>
> Each person brought some tasty food to eat, and the table was overflowing
> with delicious food, salads, wraps, dips, fruit salad
> Michael Pattinson brought and one of the X-members brought the world's
> greatest cake! (I'm not sure if you want me to say your names, so please
> do if you'd like to).
>
> As usual, the living room was packed, the dining room filled with tasty
> foods and drinks, the kitchen always has interesting conversations going
> there, and finally my back patio was filled with more discussions. The
> house was rockin!
>
> I love each of these people..........truly it makes my heart sing to see
> them all together....and hear how much communication, humor and delight
> occurs when they all get together.
>
> give me a call. If you came last night, and you'd like to add any comments
> to this, please do :)
>
Tory,
It was another wonderful party at your house. The atmosphere, the guests and
the conversation were not to be missed. Ida's fudge was out of this world
delicious, super rich and creamy-yum!
Thanks for having us,
Susan
wbarwell
> Maybe Cheney thought it was Dan Quayle.
Reminds me of the old Monty Python Hunter's sketch.
A bunch of upper class twits shooting each other.
wbarwell
>
> "Truth Seeker" <asd...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:uh5vu1h3s6b3obhvm...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:51:13 -0600, wbarwell <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com>
>
> <snip>
>
>> Well, how about you fruitcake, your [you're] hiding behind your
>> wbarwell name.
>> Whats [What's] your real name and whats [what's] your phone number you
>> fuck.
>
> Bravo Mr T! That's real Tone 40 stuff.
>
> I wonder if there's any way to find out who this mysterious 'wbarwell'
> is? Probable not, as he's no doubt hiding behind many layers of deceit
> and subterfuge.
>
> But let's see if he's given any inadvertent clues as to his identity.
>
> If we take every second letter and swap it with the first then we get
> 'bwraewll'. Now reverse it, 'llwearwb' This could be Welsh but I have
> a suspicion that the origin of his name lies to the north-east of that
> principality, in the Great Forest of Leicester.
>
This is true. My family came from Barwell,
England in Leichester. This was listed
as a small village of 14 people, including
the local priest mind you, in the Domesday Book.
A village so small it could not afford a
village idiot well into the late Middle Ages.
There were 5 farms in the area, probably with
the usual population of farm laborer louts.
The name Barwell in Saxon means Boars ford or
Boar's well and probably refers to a well known
hog wallow along one of the small streams in the
area. Useful knowledge for local Saxon villagers
with bows and a taste for pork.
The Boar was the emblem of the local Celtic
war god Mocco.
Barwell is notable because nothing notable
ever happened there. A few wheatfields
were trampled by Henry Stuart's army on their
way to defate King John III at nearby Bosworth field.
To this day, Barwellites still have not forgiven
Henry Stuart. In the 60's a meteorite fell near there.
Today it is a small rural town with a population of
about 6,000 happily bored people. Its main industries
are cattle and sheep and moggies.
The forests were cut down for oak lumber for the
British navy centuries ago, opening up the land
to sheep grazing.
--
Uncle Tom's manor
If you would have lived amongst them, they would have had their village
idiot even when the "village" would have had just two residents.
> There were 5 farms in the area, probably with
> the usual population of farm laborer louts.
I'd rather think that your forefathers were beind bars. That's were the
name BARwell comes from, you lying spam monster.
~~~~
Victoria ("Tory" "Magoo") Christman: "F*ck you!"
(She was found in contempt of court for refusing to give up her
harassment.) She disconnected from husband and son. Just ran out of
them.
~~~~
"I thought I was an alien myself. So I am in fact a space alien invader
disguised as psychiatrist plotting and conspiring all day long." --
Senior psychiatrist Ulf Brettstam
"ECT (Electro Convulsive Therapy), one of the best validated medical
treatment in the history of medicine." -- Senior psychiatrist Ulf
Brettstam
And now dig this: http://www.ect.org/effects.shtml
~~~~
Redneck William "Charlie" Barwell, is a documented hate spreader, liar
and spammer:
http://bernie.cncfamily.com/sc/barwell.htm
William signed his postings with "pope" and his mental state is
questioned by many.
Magoo
She disconnected from husband and son.
False.
Just ran out of
> them.
Utterly FALSE.
Man, you all specialize in lies, falsehoods, and BS, don't you?
Tory/Magoo~~
Abby
Magoo wrote:
> Man, you all specialize in lies, falsehoods, and BS, don't you?
>
After all this time you aren't truly surprised by this, are you?
Magoo
"Abby" <abbyn...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1139904590.2...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>
> Magoo wrote:
>> Man, you all specialize in lies, falsehoods, and BS, don't you?
>>
>
> After all this time you aren't truly surprised by this, are you?
Frankly, I am still quite surprised at most of the idiotic things
Scientologists do still. It just floors me that they are SOOOO
stupid. I find it hard to believe that I was *that* bad, and honestly, I'm
not sure that I was. ((For one, I never really believed in SP, as an
example. I took drugs/medicine...so I was never in my heart anti-psychs the
way they are, etc)).
Whatever..........it still amazes me to read the idiotic shams they do,
and then think they want the world to think of them as a 'real religion'. Oh
yeah.,....sure.
Tory/Magoo~~
>
Magoo
Thank you for making it SOO terrific :)
Happy Valentines Day, for real!!!
Tory/Magoo~~
"wbarwell" <wbar...@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:11v2bg7...@corp.supernews.com...
Abby
Interesting, because I figured with all your experience that nothing
they do would surprise you. I have zero first hand experience with
them and their tactics don't surprise me at all. Maybe it *should*
continually amaze/shock me...I don't know. I'll have to think on that a
bit.
Andrew Robertson
"Susan" <enlighte...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:kNSdnYbehsb6iGze...@comcast.com...
<snip>
> That is hilarious!
There was a more serious intent Susan. I think the 'Truth Seeker' operation
is not only a demonstrable failure, but it also makes the Church of
Scientology a laughing stock in the eyes of anyone reading this newsgroup.
Choosing Tim as the titular head was a bad idea, He's a very gifted chess
player, but he lacks the social maturity and presentational skills to
succeed in his mission.
Brian Muldoon's analysis of the current operation is apposite and well
argued, but I take a more historical view in seeing the present spamming as
an inevitable consequence of the Church of Scientology's failure to adapt to
change.
The origins of the 'Truth Seeker' posts go back into the mists of time. A
very long while ago in a dusty bar in Lagos, Bob Minton and the Church
collided, Bob won. Neither forgot, and years later their paths crossed
again. The Church has a healthy respect for multi-millionaires so they
attempted to divert Bob with a fabulous story about the true origins of the
Scientology philosophy. Blindfolded, Bob was taken to an old mansion
overlooking Boston Harbour, where, in a windowless library stacked with
yellowing manuscripts, the elderly Ralph Dorian, waited upon by his faithful
son Richard, explained how he, rather than L Ron Hubbard, created
Scientology.
Bob, though initially intrigued, become sceptical, moved to Clearwater and
took on the Church. Everyone knows the conclusion.
But what to do with the Dorian masterpieces so skilfully crafted by Craig de
Fan whilst sailing on the Sea of Cortez?
Well, they were recycled. Tim in Salisbury, Maryland, ex-staff, now public
doing his A - E steps as an OSA volunteer was the chosen one. A bad choice.
So was his devoted helper, the fair Lily, a public, on-lines at the Vienna
Org in Austria.
I could go on at length about Bill Yaude and Ben Shaw but I'd only get
interrupted.
"Ben Shaw from Clearwater!" cried Zinj. "He's a nobody"
"But Zinj", said Andrew, his brow creasing slightly, "Ben and Monique
Yingling were the only Church of Scientology representatives at the final
talks in the Lisa McPherson family settlement case. Where were all the $650
per hour lawyers? Ben made it go right. Surely that would afford him
Kha-Khan status? Perhaps COB might even have even assigned him to handle
the Internet."
Zinj looked at Andrew, his eyes narrowing slightly and drew deeply on his
cigar before replying. "Why would you, from a small mist shrouded country
at the bottom of the world that no one's ever heard of, have any
understanding of the Machiavellian machinations of the internal workings of
the Church of Scientology? Perhaps you would be better employed pondering
as to why the New Zealand Rugby Sevens have been beaten twice in the last
week by Fiji."
Andrew turned away chastened, wondering why, in this age of instant
communication, Zinj would be quite so disparaging, particularly considering
the current porosity of the Church.
But the most telling point to me was the initial reaction of Homer Wilson
Smith, who when pressured to cancel the 'Truth Seeker' posts on Lightlink,
said, in:
Message-ID: <4305263a$1...@news2.lightlink.com>
"As far as I can tell most of Truth Seeker's writings are spot on"
Homer's a very intelligent person, and who, whilst thrown out of the Church,
and who may or may not choose to call himself a Scientologist, clearly still
subscribes to the basic tenets.
I do think it's people like Homer, that is, disaffected Scientologists, for
whom the 'Truth Seeker' posts are primarily aimed at.
The noise, distraction and driving other posts off the Google Groups first
page are a secondary (though welcome) benefit for 'Truth Seeker's masters.
Andrew
realpch
>
> "Susan" <enlighte...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:kNSdnYbehsb6iGze...@comcast.com...
>
> <snip>
>
> > That is hilarious!
>
> There was a more serious intent Susan. I think the 'Truth Seeker' operation
> is not only a demonstrable failure, but it also makes the Church of
> Scientology a laughing stock in the eyes of anyone reading this newsgroup.
>
> Choosing Tim as the titular head was a bad idea, He's a very gifted chess
> player, but he lacks the social maturity and presentational skills to
> succeed in his mission.
Yes, lead-footed, is he not?
> Brian Muldoon's analysis of the current operation is apposite and well
> argued, but I take a more historical view in seeing the present spamming as
> an inevitable consequence of the Church of Scientology's failure to adapt to
> change.
>
> The origins of the 'Truth Seeker' posts go back into the mists of time. A
> very long while ago in a dusty bar in Lagos, Bob Minton and the Church
> collided, Bob won. Neither forgot, and years later their paths crossed
> again. The Church has a healthy respect for multi-millionaires so they
> attempted to divert Bob with a fabulous story about the true origins of the
> Scientology philosophy. Blindfolded, Bob was taken to an old mansion
> overlooking Boston Harbour, where, in a windowless library stacked with
> yellowing manuscripts, the elderly Ralph Dorian, waited upon by his faithful
> son Richard, explained how he, rather than L Ron Hubbard, created
> Scientology.
No no, the fabulous mansion and the silk cravat were in the hills above
Berkeley or Oakland.
Yes, TS's obvious goal is to get the ex's to not talk to anyone else.
And I suppose the measure of people leaving who might have experiences
that would embarrass the Church is how much spam TS floods the newsgroup
with. Guess a lot of long-term folks are leaving these days, eh?
Peach
Keith Henson
<a...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>"Susan" <enlighte...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:kNSdnYbehsb6iGze...@comcast.com...
>
><snip>
>
>> That is hilarious!
>
>There was a more serious intent Susan. I think the 'Truth Seeker' operation
>is not only a demonstrable failure, but it also makes the Church of
>Scientology a laughing stock in the eyes of anyone reading this newsgroup.
snip
Definitely a penetrating (*) analysis, best I have seen in ages.
Keith Henson
blackdove
>
> >
> >What a petty little mind you have.
> >A cowardly -8.0 hider as usual.
>
> scientology or a scientologist ( Tory is an undercover scientologist )
> is hiding, right?
>
> Well, how about you fruitcake, your hiding behind your wbarwell name.
> Whats your real name and whats your phone number you fuck. I'll show
> you how much I'm hiding you fucking L. Ron ass licker. You hide behind
> a whole organization. It takes courage to to speak out against the
> it's you and your criminal OSA teamates. Your hiding from life, hiding
> in a church, afraid to face life on your own. That's why you joined
>
> Your the coward hiding, hiding behind L. Ron's skirt!
>
>
> Truth Seeker
> ==========
Nice language there, kiddo. I remember when lily jumped to the defense
of your honor and dignity... that "one can trust you 100%" and that if
things from you sounded weird or scary or abusive, you must be a
forgery.
Nobody buys your tripe. Must be lonely up there from your tower of
spam...
Caswell
manor says...
>
>
>Magoo wrote:
>> The night began perfectly, with the full moon out (my favorite).
>
>see you on the roof and are afraid to approach you.
Not to worry, they just call the dog pound.
Cas
>~~~~
>"I thought I was an alien myself. So I am in fact a space alien invader
>disguised as psychiatrist plotting and conspiring all day long." --
>Senior psychiatrist Ulf Brettstam
>"ECT (Electro Convulsive Therapy), one of the best validated medical
>treatment in the history of medicine." -- Senior psychiatrist Ulf
>Brettstam
>And now dig this: http://www.ect.org/effects.shtml
>~~~~
>Victoria ("Tory" "Magoo") Christman: "F*ck you!"
>(She was found in contempt of court for refusing to give up her
>harassment.) She disconnected from husband and son. Just ran out of
>them.
>
wbarwell
> In article <1139805102....@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> Uncle Tom's manor says...
>>
>>
>>Magoo wrote:
>>> The night began perfectly, with the full moon out (my favorite).
>>
>>You post like a woman in moon trance. It's possible that your neighbors
>>see you on the roof and are afraid to approach you.
>
> Not to worry, they just call the dog pound.
>
> Cas
The only people in trances around here are you
little culties. Time now to wake up.
barbz
Nobody was on the roof, duck for brains. It was a gathering of people
trying to heal from the damage done to them by your destructive
C.U.L.T.
Interesting it is, that such an odd mix of OTs and critics can find
common ground, enjoy the evening, stay off the roof, marvel at the full
moon, share food, stories, and knowledge, to the benefit of all.
Like all of Tory's parties, it's a healing experience that makes us all
stronger.
Magoo
No, I think you're quite correct: For most, if not ALL "Wogs", certainly
"Critics" ...the stupid actions of C of S/OSA are totally predicatable, and
rarely if ever surprising.
It is we who bought the lines, hook, line AND sinkers, that still have
things 'in' us that we remember. I know I remember the belief that 'man is
basically good' and the theory of overts and blowing.
I never bought that,and when some BIG Exec's left, C of S had to do some
fancy dancing to keep me on board. They did, and had me listen to a tape I'd
never heard called, "Individuation", where Hubbard explains how by the
nature of the job of an Executive, there WILL be "Blows", as someone in
charge of soooooooooo many people cannot help but harm ~some~ people.
Suddenly I could finally see why all these 'top' people had left. But all of
these things I still remember so well. I remember to this day the trust I
felt for Bill Yaude, my auditor and friend. I remember the love I felt for
him, too. I remember the care I felt for all of my fellow Scientologists,
and how I ~~truly~~ thought they were working to help mankind.
I remember so well ALL of the PR actions we did, and now I can see them for
what they were: CONS to try to soak more people into believing LRH.
So when this group that I had SUCH faith and trust in, does SUCH idiotic
things, it never ceases to amaze me. Perhaps one day I will stop being
amazed, but I doubt it, expecially after 30 Y E A R S of doing
it...certainly after 5 years 'out', I'm not there yet, although daily my
eyes are opened more and more! :)
Happy Valentines Day to one and ALL,
Tory/Magoo~~
>
Magoo
"barbz" <xenu...@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:HowIf.39694$JT.4294@fed1read06...
Thank you, Barbz! I'm so happy you came, too :)
Yes, it's a group of wild things that I love more and more each
time we get together.
Best,
Tory/Magoo~~
realpch
It was great while it lasted, though, wasn't it? It's damn hard letting
go of beliefs.
Peach
the even harder to handle .Lily Firered.
Well, let me explain that, blackdove! Sometimes it is not just
understandable and excusable but even absolutely necessary to answer in
a ruder tone as usual to the osa- ops. Truth Seeker (the real one)
never sounds weird. Sometimes he speaks tough since this is the
language you osa-pawns and osa-ops and scientologists in general
understand. I know it, because I had (and have) to deal with them in
real life.
It is that easy. We have to step downwards to your level of
communication to strike back effectively from time to time.
Never have I seen a person posting so effectively as Truth Seeker and
The Chess Master.
I would like to say: keep it up, keep it up, Truth Seeker!!!
.Lily.
Zinj
lily_f...@yahoo.com says...
<snip>
> Never have I seen a person posting so effectively as Truth Seeker and
> The Chess Master.
>
> I would like to say: keep it up, keep it up, Truth Seeker!!!
>
> .Lily.
Ummmmmm....
What was the 'effect' you meant? Was it *intended*?
We all know what Trough Slurper and your effect is, but, it's hard to
believe it's the *intended* effect.
Zinj
--
Scientology: The Science of Believing Anything You Like
This is the 'Tech' This is the Session.
Howard
>
> blackdove wrote:
<snip>
> >
> > Nice language there, kiddo. I remember when lily jumped to the defense
> > of your honor and dignity... that "one can trust you 100%" and that if
> > things from you sounded weird or scary or abusive, you must be a
> > forgery.
> >
> > Nobody buys your tripe. Must be lonely up there from your tower of
> > spam...
>
> Well, let me explain that, blackdove! Sometimes it is not just
> understandable and excusable but even absolutely necessary to answer in
> a ruder tone as usual to the osa- ops. Truth Seeker (the real one)
> never sounds weird. Sometimes he speaks tough since this is the
> language you osa-pawns and osa-ops and scientologists in general
> understand. I know it, because I had (and have) to deal with them in
> real life.
>
> It is that easy. We have to step downwards to your level of
> communication to strike back effectively from time to time.
Heydo Lily
Mooie Mooie
Whosa *we*?
ayusa
Howard
--
hedmundoatmacmaildotcom
Now playing: Me Gustas Tu - Manu Chao
the even harder to handle .Lily Firered.
Okay, I did not do it yet. But I can, I could if I wanted. Truth Seeker
can do better, so that is up to him.
Look - :-P
.Lily.
Howard
Gee you're so cute when you stick your tongue out like that.
Howard
--
hedmundoatmacmaildotcom
barbz
Careful...you don't know where that tongue's BEEN!
terapin Ed
Thanks for sharing your party with us Tory.
I know OSA cant stand it that their posts are ignored and yours create
much response.
Lets keep this thread going so OSA sees it again and again.
LOL
A lurker observing the circus known as ARS,
Peace
Ed
Uncle Tom's manor
Caswell wrote:
> In article <1139805102....@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Uncle Tom's
> manor says...
> >
> >
> >Magoo wrote:
> >> The night began perfectly, with the full moon out (my favorite).
> >
> >You post like a woman in moon trance. It's possible that your neighbors
> >see you on the roof and are afraid to approach you.
>
> Not to worry, they just call the dog pound.
>
> Cas
Tory left her husband and son. SHE disconnected but she turns it
around. They didn't want to disconnect. She thinks attacking
Scientology makes her innocent. Scientology HAS to be bad to make her
good. If she doesn't hate SCN, she will cave in so badly that she HAS
to continue walking the "I hate Scientology"-street. She sits in a hate
trap. I wouldn't want to be in her shoes for anything in the world.
~~~~
Victoria ("Tory" "Magoo") Christman: "F*ck you!"
(She was found in contempt of court for refusing to give up her
harassment.) She disconnected from husband and son. Just ran out of
them.
~~~~
"I thought I was an alien myself. So I am in fact a space alien invader
disguised as psychiatrist plotting and conspiring all day long." --
Senior psychiatrist Ulf Brettstam
"ECT (Electro Convulsive Therapy), one of the best validated medical
treatment in the history of medicine." -- Senior psychiatrist Ulf
Brettstam
And now dig this: http://www.ect.org/effects.shtml
~~~~
Redneck William "Charlie" Barwell, from Houston, Texas, is a documented
hate monger, liar and spammer:
http://bernie.cncfamily.com/sc/barwell.htm
He is member of the weird and money oriented SubGenius cult but
hypocritically attacks and defames Scientology and L. Ron Hubbard.
Barwell signed his postings as "pope", and his mental state is
questioned by others. Barwell wrote he loves cats in white wine sauce,
drinks beer, rum and loves skunks.
~~~~
French hate monger Roger Gonnet: "I am a patented criminal, I got every
vices, and I have as single fixed idea and only obsession humanity's
death, (me living, everyone else dead). I am preaching satan and
hells... I am a monarchist-royalist as well as a Stalinist-Hitlerian
strong follower; I hate every people."
~~~~
Caswell
manor says...
>
>
>Caswell wrote:
>>In article <1139805102....@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Uncle Tom's
>> manor says...
>> >
>> >
>> >Magoo wrote:
>> >> The night began perfectly, with the full moon out (my favorite).
>> >
>> >You post like a woman in moon trance. It's possible that your neighbors
>> >see you on the roof and are afraid to approach you.
>>
>> Not to worry, they just call the dog pound.
>>
>> Cas
>
>Tory left her husband and son. SHE disconnected but she turns it
>around. They didn't want to disconnect. She thinks attacking
>Scientology makes her innocent. Scientology HAS to be bad to make her
>good. If she doesn't hate SCN, she will cave in so badly that she HAS
>to continue walking the "I hate Scientology"-street. She sits in a hate
>trap. I wouldn't want to be in her shoes for anything in the world.
I know, she's made such a mess of her life that she has to rant and rave - yes,
so that people will think her innocent, but also in the desperate hope that
someone will pay her off. She's broke, she needs money. She thought she could
do better than her husband of 30 years. She was wrong. But Tory won't figure
that out until she dies poor and alone on some street corner. A terrible end
for a once sweet woman.
Cas
barbz
Oh, look at the sock puppets "talking" to each other! Can your black
dianetics, boyz, and stuff it where the sun don't shine!
Y'all paint such lovely, inaccurate pictures of our lives here. Where
will YOU be when you're old and useless, "Caswell?" Where will YOU go
when you're offloaded, standing on a street corner, clutching the
garbage bag holding the few possessions you own?
Where will you go after the cult has sucked you dry and discarded you?
Unlike the fairy tales you culties love to relate to each other about
us, this is real. It's happened, it's happening, and it will happen,
maybe even to you!
We don't have Stats Day deadlines. We don't have to report to Ethics.
We're free, and you're not. Elronic, isn't it.
Magoo
"Caswell" <Caswell...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:dt2e8...@drn.newsguy.com...
Where do you get your briefings from? It's amazing to me that people who I
thought were quite smart, listen to utter BS, without ever questioning it,
and then try to pass it on as facts.
Idiot.
Tory/Magoo~~
Magoo
"Uncle Tom's manor" <Uncl...@saintly.com> wrote in message
news:1140065795.9...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>
> Caswell wrote:
>> In article <1139805102....@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Uncle
>> Tom's
>> manor says...
>> >
>> >
>> >Magoo wrote:
>> >> The night began perfectly, with the full moon out (my favorite).
>> >
>> >You post like a woman in moon trance. It's possible that your neighbors
>> >see you on the roof and are afraid to approach you.
>>
>> Not to worry, they just call the dog pound.
>>
>> Cas
>
> Tory left her husband and son.
False.
SHE disconnected
Absolutely false...but you need to try to make that true, don't you?
but she turns it
> around. They didn't want to disconnect.
Right, you have NO idea what my family life is like, so don't try
to pretend you're an expert, when you post falsehoods like this each time,
proving you know nothing.
She thinks attacking
> Scientology makes her innocent.
Says who? I never said that, nor do I attack Scientology. I expose the
abuses of Scientology...which you're too brain washed to even learn about.
Interesting attempt to try to pull this all together, but hey, you all start
with lies, build from there, and then crash and burn each time.
Scientology HAS to be bad to make her
> good.
No................I've said many times, Scientologists, many of them, are
good people, and some of the tech I like. The phony 'Church"...is just that,
and I don't like phonies. The upper levels are one big giganitic con, and
you know it.
If she doesn't hate SCN, she will cave in so badly that she HAS
> to continue walking the "I hate Scientology"-street.
I haven't said "I hate Scientology"...you have.
She sits in a hate
> trap. I wouldn't want to be in her shoes for anything in the world.
Of course....you'd rather sit with your head in the soft sand and chant "L
RON HUBBARD IS MY LEADER! I don't have to look at any FACTS the many
X-Scientologists who used to run Scientology have posted...I'm going to be
OT no matter what!"
over and over.
Enjoy the sand.
Tory/Magoo~~
>
> ~~~~
> Victoria ("Tory" "Magoo") Christman: "F*ck you!"
> (She was found in contempt of court for refusing to give up her
> harassment.) She disconnected from husband and son. Just ran out of
> them.
Lies.
Magoo
"the even harder to handle .Lily Firered." <lily_f...@yahoo.com> wrote in
message news:1140041960.7...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
In your game, Lily, you're all the same people.........so what's the
difference?
My sympathies to you.
Tory/Magoo~~
>
Magoo
"terapin Ed" <tera...@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1140062558.4...@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Hey Ed.........
You know it, from first hand experience having come to one of my parties.
:) You're right...........they hate the "SP's" having fun.
"IT CAN'T BE! PUT THEM DOWN! QUICK!"
What a sad shape to be in. To the floormats, is this ~~honestly~what you got
into Scientology to do?
Tory/Magoo~~
>
Gavino Idda
>"Caswell" <Caswell...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
>news:dt2e8...@drn.newsguy.com...
>> Cas
>
>Where do you get your briefings from? It's amazing to me that people who I
>thought were quite smart, listen to utter BS, without ever questioning it,
>and then try to pass it on as facts.
>
>Idiot.
You only say that because you know me!
Gavino Idda
blackdove
the even harder to handle .Lily Firered. wrote:
<snip>
> It is that easy. We have to step downwards to your level of
> communication to strike back effectively from time to time.
>
Why, how very Scientological of you to say that.
I can see that you're winning the battle. The blows you're striking,
they're scattering your enemies to the winds! They're cowering in fear
before Truthseeker's glory! His muscles are bulging! His locks flow
like amber waves of grain! His words pour off his tongue like honeyed
spam!
barbz
...he smells of elderberries!
the hard to handle .::brick in the wall::.
Hu? What?
> My sympathies to you.
Uhu.
>
> Tory/Magoo~~
> >
.Lily.
the hard to handle .::brick in the wall::.
blackdove wrote:
> the even harder to handle .Lily Firered. wrote:
> <snip>
>
> > It is that easy. We have to step downwards to your level of
> > communication to strike back effectively from time to time.
> >
>
> Why, how very Scientological of you to say that.
Hu? Why? Is everything one says now of scientologese origin? Only in
the thinking of a scientologist, I would say.
>
> I can see that you're winning the battle. The blows you're striking,
> they're scattering your enemies to the winds! They're cowering in fear
> before Truthseeker's glory! His muscles are bulging! His locks flow
> like amber waves of grain! His words pour off his tongue like honeyed
> spam!
Blackdove, if you really want you can have a fight. But I would not
recommend it. Look what I did with Brettstam. Look where Stollery is
going. Down. He is going down.
Blackdove, think about it. Leave true critics alone and don't challenge
me any further.
.Lily.
Muldoon
Andrew Robertson wrote:
> "Susan" <enlighte...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:kNSdnYbehsb6iGze...@comcast.com...
>
> <snip>
>
> > That is hilarious!
>
> There was a more serious intent Susan. I think the 'Truth Seeker' operation
> is not only a demonstrable failure, but it also makes the Church of
> Scientology a laughing stock in the eyes of anyone reading this newsgroup.
>
> Choosing Tim as the titular head was a bad idea, He's a very gifted chess
> player, but he lacks the social maturity and presentational skills to
> succeed in his mission.
>
> Brian Muldoon's analysis of the current operation is apposite and well
> argued, but I take a more historical view in seeing the present spamming as
> an inevitable consequence of the Church of Scientology's failure to adapt to
> change.
>
> The origins of the 'Truth Seeker' posts go back into the mists of time. A
> very long while ago in a dusty bar in Lagos, Bob Minton and the Church
> collided, Bob won. Neither forgot, and years later their paths crossed
> again. The Church has a healthy respect for multi-millionaires so they
> attempted to divert Bob with a fabulous story about the true origins of the
> Scientology philosophy. Blindfolded, Bob was taken to an old mansion
> overlooking Boston Harbour, where, in a windowless library stacked with
> yellowing manuscripts, the elderly Ralph Dorian, waited upon by his faithful
> son Richard, explained how he, rather than L Ron Hubbard, created
> Scientology.
>
> Bob, though initially intrigued, become sceptical, moved to Clearwater and
> took on the Church. Everyone knows the conclusion.
>
> But what to do with the Dorian masterpieces so skilfully crafted by Craig de
> Fan whilst sailing on the Sea of Cortez?
>
> Well, they were recycled. Tim in Salisbury, Maryland, ex-staff, now public
> doing his A - E steps as an OSA volunteer was the chosen one. A bad choice.
> So was his devoted helper, the fair Lily, a public, on-lines at the Vienna
> Org in Austria.
>
> I could go on at length about Bill Yaude and Ben Shaw but I'd only get
> interrupted.
>
> "Ben Shaw from Clearwater!" cried Zinj. "He's a nobody"
>
> "But Zinj", said Andrew, his brow creasing slightly, "Ben and Monique
> Yingling were the only Church of Scientology representatives at the final
> talks in the Lisa McPherson family settlement case. Where were all the $650
> per hour lawyers? Ben made it go right. Surely that would afford him
> Kha-Khan status? Perhaps COB might even have even assigned him to handle
> the Internet."
>
> Zinj looked at Andrew, his eyes narrowing slightly and drew deeply on his
> cigar before replying. "Why would you, from a small mist shrouded country
> at the bottom of the world that no one's ever heard of, have any
> understanding of the Machiavellian machinations of the internal workings of
> the Church of Scientology? Perhaps you would be better employed pondering
> as to why the New Zealand Rugby Sevens have been beaten twice in the last
> week by Fiji."
>
> Andrew turned away chastened, wondering why, in this age of instant
> communication, Zinj would be quite so disparaging, particularly considering
> the current porosity of the Church.
>
> But the most telling point to me was the initial reaction of Homer Wilson
> Smith, who when pressured to cancel the 'Truth Seeker' posts on Lightlink,
> said, in:
>
> Message-ID: <4305263a$1...@news2.lightlink.com>
>
> "As far as I can tell most of Truth Seeker's writings are spot on"
>
> Homer's a very intelligent person, and who, whilst thrown out of the Church,
> and who may or may not choose to call himself a Scientologist, clearly still
> subscribes to the basic tenets.
>
> I do think it's people like Homer, that is, disaffected Scientologists, for
> whom the 'Truth Seeker' posts are primarily aimed.
>
> The noise, distraction and driving other posts off the Google Groups first
> page are a secondary (though welcome) benefit for 'Truth Seeker's masters.
>
> Andrew
>
Most interesting.
I can't help but feel sorry for "Truth Seeker" and "Lily."
blackdove
> blackdove wrote:
> > the even harder to handle .Lily Firered. wrote:
> > <snip>
> >
> > > It is that easy. We have to step downwards to your level of
> > > communication to strike back effectively from time to time.
> > >
> >
> > Why, how very Scientological of you to say that.
>
> Hu? Why? Is everything one says now of scientologese origin? Only in
> the thinking of a scientologist, I would say.
Sorry Lilz but you can't point this one back around on me. You're the
one who champions a method of "handling one's enemies" espoused by
Hubbard. And I look suspicious for pointing it out? Talking to
someone "on the level" is not a critical format.
>
> >
> > I can see that you're winning the battle. The blows you're striking,
> > they're scattering your enemies to the winds! They're cowering in fear
> > before Truthseeker's glory! His muscles are bulging! His locks flow
> > like amber waves of grain! His words pour off his tongue like honeyed
> > spam!
>
> Blackdove, if you really want you can have a fight. But I would not
> recommend it. Look what I did with Brettstam. Look where Stollery is
> going. Down. He is going down.
Actually, what I want is to have fun, and I am. According to you,
Truthseeker is winning some kind of battle, but I see no evidence of
it. Just, as Shakespeare would say "Words, words, words." People are
opening their eyes and leaving Scientology every day, and not a one is
thanking your glorrrrriooouuusssss bastion of truth and justice.
What did you do with Brettstam? Stuff him in a hatbox? And Stollery's
already down! He's down in NZ! I'd love to go down and visit, I hear
it's a lovely country.
>
> Blackdove, think about it. Leave true critics alone and don't challenge
> me any further.
>
> .Lily.
My dear Lily you seem to be mistaken on what a critic is. Critics
debate and challenge. Critics have real discussions, rather than post
endless spam and drivel and dodge questions. If you are afraid of a
little repartee, a reader would hesitate to call you a critic of
anything.
-blackdove
blackdove
... and his mother was a hamster!