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Motto:

It may be indeed 'No Fun To Step On Ants' (meaning, to 'kick'
Sociopaths), but it is even less fun, NOT to do so.

In fact it is these, who create and maintain all the horrors on
Earth - and at all levels of the society.

'

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Reference at the top:

Koos Nolst Trenite - Facing the 'Scientology' demons and the
Anti-'Scientology' demons, and their vicious crimes on him
regarding his daughter
{HRI 20071025-V1.0.1} [SDCRD]
Publication date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:15:28 -0700
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.true-crime/msg/c00ce59556408bde


Most interesting, is that these Sociopaths have always
- again I must say DELIBERATELY - left out, that the whole
incident was a set-up, meticulously planned and financed by
the 'Scientology' Dirty Tricks Bureau under Mike Rinder.

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Some comments on the persistent and severely Criminal Libel that is
wrought from the Defendants' and Accused' deep-seated hate for life,
and thus it follows the standard (always same) patterns of their very
hateful minds:

And - to put it mildly - they are 'not pleasant' to look at, as
they really are

- you might be willing to suspect, or even agree.

Read also on them in particular:

'On sociopaths who want to feel themselves and each other as
"fighting for truth and freedom" '
(the Final FAQ about alt.religion.scientology)
{HRI 20100402-V2.0} [SFTF]
(2 April 2010 - Version 2.0 on 7 Jan 2011)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/8f295d264c0d7d46

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''

Recent evidence comes from a cluster of similarly-minded individuals

(who migrated from the newsgroup alt.religion.scientology, to
the 'Ex-Scientologists Message Board' at the site 'exscn.net')

with, from a legal viewpoint, Claire Swazey (elsewhere posting as
'fluffygirl' etc. with similar Libel) most prominent in Criminality
there, in her open and persistent, Severely Criminal Libel.

'

(note on the evidence:

All of them engage intentionally and KNOWINGLY in severe
Hate crimes, as their nature does indeed dictate it to
them, to do compulsively.)

(NOTE further - They try to fixate their "audience," in
particular each other, on complete FALSE accusations that
THEY KNOW are false and fabricated: fabricated by other
Sociopaths, too, in order to destroy whoever is most caring
and most truthful, and thus "has to be cut down" by all
means.)

'

Some commented evidence on them from the exscn.net website, is
enclosed as Enclosure-1.

The whole three pages of evidence from their recent and as always,
INTENTIONAL, Severely Criminal Libel, here on exscn.net, is given
below as RAW DATA, in Enclosure-2.

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KNT hrp&p

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Enclosure-1:

http://www.forum.exscn.net/forum.php
Thread: Koos Nolst Trenite Appreciation Thread

thread started 31st March 2013, 12:17 AM
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[He gives malicious innuendo - knowingly with completely false
"data" and wholly FALSE assumptions, at that.

Sociopaths are not interested in truth, BUT in getting the
OPPOSITE of it, insinuated and then accepted, and then
hopefully acted upon:

It is the nature and intention of all Libel: To get OTHERS
to destroy a person that the Libeler wants destroyed.

This carries on throughout fifteen years of libel and hate
crimes by these Sociopaths, as recorded earlier.]


"Koos is highly underappreciated, he probably came the closest to
reaching what Hubbard envisioned an 'OT' to be."

['OT' (Operating "Thetan," how l. ron hubbard likes to have
'a spirit' (falsely) "defined," and how he considered - himself
a severest Sociopath - that a 'spiritually capable person'
"is," and how he himself would have liked to be. He has tried
all his life, like Alistair Crowley, to achieve "spiritual
capability" BY Vampiring on the Life Energy and on the work of
others. {definition}]

"I'm glad someone has achieved [has 'ARCHIVED,' he means] these gems"

['gems' he refers to the - extraordinarily valuable - research
records, that Koos published before he was practically, and
to all intents and purposes, murdered by the Sociopaths, in
September of 2000, in order to stop and destroy his work and
himself [SDCRD][BANO][YEI]

but the Defendant/Accused means with 'gems,' here, he opposite,
by appending 'doubly false,' or intricately fabricated lies

- lies: as the research is NEITHER 'Hubbard's Standard Tech,'
in any way whatsoever (l. ron hubbard fiercely PROHIBITED any
research, and as any Sociopath does, also he PERSECUTES
anyone who does even vaguely look at him, at how he really
is),

and certainly it is indeed not in the least, "research, that
has been 'applied as L. Ron Hubbard intended'," but quite the
opposite in fact,

as explained extensively elsewhere and often, in almost
any Human Rights Issue and in Fine Particle Physics

- which also this and all other malicious posters/Accused/
Defendants do KNOW -

but, bent on provoking libel, ridicule and innuendo (to
"mitigate" his innate fear of himself being looked at as he
actually is) -

as it is the wont of Criminals (of l. ron hubbard, too)

he does - as his Criminal associates do it since decades - he
wants to "equate Koos," he wants Koos "described" and thought
of, as the very opposite of Koos,

the very OPPOSITE of Koos is 'l. ron hubbard' (but who
would like to BE LIKE Koos - Koos who is merely, but
precisely, EXPOSING l. ron hubbard]

[Criminal Minds want to have everything seen IN REVERSE,
so these (Sociopaths do) insinuate THE OPPOSITE as "true"
- and so he continues to lie with a REVERSAL of truth:
The 'gems' are]

"to give people a glimpse of what Hubbard's Standard Tech is capable
of when applied as L. Ron Hubbard intended."

[again: Koos' research records are THE VERY OPPOSITE of
'Hubbard's Standard Tech,' let alone that they are in any way
whatsoever 'applied as L. Ron Hubbard intended,'

and this, the malicious posters/accused/defendants do also
KNOW;

and it is explained extensively in the research records
themselves, and in almost any Human Rights Issue and in
Fine Particle Physics, too,

but the defendants/accused are bent on evoking libel, ridicule
and innuendo, to "mitigate" their innate fear of being looked
at as they actually are and of being remembered by others as
they have actually been.

'

It is an interesting subject of research,

given the often (seemingly) erratic choice of moment,
of some Sociopath, whenever they starting one of their
typical libel campaigns:

who and what does TRIGGER their sudden onset of INTENSE, MORTAL
FEAR of being seen as they (Sociopaths) actually are,

which of course falls in the realm of Life Energy
research.

It can be compared to a Panic Attack in normal people. But
the Sociopaths somehow "panic" - often in very Criminal ways -
when they feel they are in (present or future) danger of 'being
exposed and being seen and understood as they really are.']
[SFTF]

"http://www.insolitology.com/topten/koostrenite.htm"
"http://www.insolitology.com/topten/koostrenite/index.html"

'

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References:

[SFTF] 'On sociopaths who want to feel themselves and each other as
"fighting for truth and freedom" '
(the Final FAQ about alt.religion.scientology)
{HRI 20100402-V2.0} [SFTF]
(2 April 2010 - Version 2.0 on 7 Jan 2011)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/8f295d264c0d7d46

'

Copyright 2013 by Koos Nolst Trenite - human rights philosopher
and poet
This is 'learnware' - it may not be altered, and it is free for
anyone who learns from it and (even if he can not learn from it)
who passes it on unaltered, and with this message included,
to others who might be able to learn from it (but not to sociopaths
specifically, because these vehemently oppose any true knowledge
of life and about themselves).
None of my writings may be used, ever, to support any political
or religious or scientific or artistic "agenda," but only to educate,
and to encourage people to judge un-dominated and for themselves,
about any organizations or individuals.
Send free-of-Envy and free-of-Hate, Beautiful e-mails to:
PlatoWorld at Lycos.com

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Enclosure 2: RAW DATA

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The thread - on exscn.net - in three pages:

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31st March 2013, 12:17 AM
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Koos Nolst Trenite Appreciation Thread
Koos is highly underappreciated, he probably came the closest to reaching what Hubbard envisioned an OT to be. I'm glad someone has achieved these gems to give people a glimpse of what Hubbard's Standard Tech is capable of when applied as L. Ron Hubbard intended.

http://www.insolitology.com/topten/koostrenite.htm


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That poor guy had a real melt-down. He is a perfect example of what happens when people "believe" their solo sessions.
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Originally Posted by uniquemand
That poor guy had a real melt-down. He is a perfect example of what happens when people "believe" their solo sessions.
He rose above the bank and is no longer shackled by the confines of sanity.

Many have tried but Koos succeeded, He successfully crossed Hubbard's Bridge To Total Freedom
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I mean, not to evaluate or anything, but ... Ick!
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He successfully drowned his daughter. Other than that, he made a laughingstock of himself.
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He successfully drowned his daughter. Other than that, he made a laughingstock of himself.
He took 'What Would Ron Do' to a whole new level. Koos represents the apotheosis of Hubbard's OT Levels.
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Koos used to write a lot of stuff on a.r.s. and a.c.t. He created thse HCOBish looking thingies that reminded me a bit of Cpt Bill Robertson, in a way. It was very odd but still, we were shocked when he murdered his daughter. He was institutionalized a while- probably less than 2 or 3 years. Later, he started posting as Leonardo Been and just started shrieking and yelling at people. I mean, he always was quite disturbed, but then after the murder and institutionalization, it turned into this angry paranoia.

You know, if this had all happened in the US, he'd still be institutionalized.
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If it happened in Texas, he'd be dead.
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Originally Posted by ChuckNorrisCutsMyLawn
Koos is highly underappreciated, he probably came the closest to reaching what Hubbard envisioned an OT to be. I'm glad someone has achieved these gems to give people a glimpse of what Hubbard's Standard Tech is capable of when applied as L. Ron Hubbard intended.

http://www.insolitology.com/topten/koostrenite.htm


http://www.insolitology.com/topten/k...ite/index.html
I hope you are joking. But what happened to Koos is no joke. Koos has a history in Scientology that includes having worked for the GO, and a disturbing and contentious one on the internet. Why drag that here to ESMB?
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://.../cos_fun/koos/

Originally Posted by uniquemand
He successfully drowned his daughter. Other than that, he made a laughingstock of himself.
In bold: That is a false but well promoted statement that really needs to be closed.

His daughter committed suicide. He found her dead. He was already off the rails before that and when it happened, he had a complete nervous breakdown. Np proof whatsoever that he did anything to his daughter, nor that he was ever arrested or prosecuted or retained for her death.
https://groups.google.com/group/alt....a1f44f86?hl=en

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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.r...?hl=en&&q=koos

To Mary - Re: Koos Nolst Trenite - Facing the 'Scientology' demons and the Anti-'Scientology' demons, and their vicious crimes on him regarding his daughter - {HRI 20071025}
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Originally Posted by AnonyMary
I hope you are joking. But what happened to Koos is no joke. Koos has a history in Scientology that includes having worked for the GO, and a disturbing and contentious one on the internet. Why drag that here to ESMB?
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://.../cos_fun/koos/



In bold: That is a false but well promoted statement that really needs to be closed.

His daughter committed suicide. He found her dead. He was already off the rails before that and when it happened, he had a complete nervous breakdown. Np proof whatsoever that he did anything to his daughter, nor that he was ever arrested or prosecuted or retained for her death.
https://groups.google.com/group/alt....a1f44f86?hl=en

Koos Nolst Trenite - Facing the 'Scientology' demons and the Anti-'Scientology' demons, and their vicious crimes on him regarding his daughter - {HRI 20071025}
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.r...?hl=en&&q=koos

To Mary - Re: Koos Nolst Trenite - Facing the 'Scientology' demons and the Anti-'Scientology' demons, and their vicious crimes on him regarding his daughter - {HRI 20071025}
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.t...8c82df88?hl=en

Thanks for clearing that up. I directly asked him what had happened, and he accused me of being a demon, or some such. I apologize for forwarding what amounts to a vicious rumor, though I do think he could have defused it by simply STATING that (as you have done). Apologies to Koos and anyone else like me, who believed it because of the number of times it had been stated. Thanks, AnonMary for taking the time to fully research it and for getting out the facts.
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Originally Posted by uniquemand
Thanks for clearing that up. I directly asked him what had happened, and he accused me of being a demon, or some such. I apologize for forwarding what amounts to a vicious rumor, though I do think he could have defused it by simply STATING that (as you have done). Apologies to Koos and anyone else like me, who believed it because of the number of times it had been stated. Thanks, AnonMary for taking the time to fully research it and for getting out the facts.
You're welcome.. if it makes you feel any better, he later questioned my sincerity and started attacking me in new posts because I told someone in another thread later on to lay off attacking him because all it would do is fuel his mental illness, or something to that effect. I forgot that he might read that.... and respond as someone mentally ill would - defending their reality.

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Originally Posted by ChuckNorrisCutsMyLawn
He rose above the bank and is no longer shackled by the confines of sanity.

Many have tried but Koos succeeded, He successfully crossed Hubbard's Bridge To Total Freedom
CHUCK,

HAVE YOU EVER MET THIS GUY ?

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Originally Posted by DartSmohen
CHUCK,

HAVE YOU EVER MET THIS GUY ?

DART.
Nope, I just remember him posting on ARS,

I found his ability to telepathically sec check people pretty impressive.

He definitely broke through the barriers of sanity crossed the Bridge To Total Freedom with Ron and Capt Bill
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If his daughter suicided, then why was he institutionalized for killing her? There seems to be some conflicting info.
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Scientology works! All parents everywhere should read this and protect children everywhere from joining this cult. Fuck you osa!
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Originally Posted by ChuckNorrisCutsMyLawn
Nope, I just remember him posting on ARS,

I found his ability to telepathically sec check people pretty impressive.
Chuck, if I read what you're saying correctly here this is a lolwut thread in which you actually mean the exact opposite of what you're saying, and are having fun watching us try to figure that out?

Am I right?

If so, I for one would rather you didn't and instead just said what you actually meant, such as, this guy is a lunatic and his ravings are a result of his being a victim of Scn tech.
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Originally Posted by Cat's Squirrel
Chuck, if I read what you're saying correctly here this is a lolwut thread in which you actually mean the exact opposite of what you're saying, and are having fun watching us try to figure that out?

Am I right?

If so, I for one would rather you didn't and instead just said what you actually meant, such as, this guy is a lunatic and his ravings are a result of his being a victim of Scn tech.
Frank, what don't you get about my post (since you WTF?ed it)? I thought what I said was clear and pretty straightforward.
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I'm still wondering how a man gets institutionalized for his daughter's suicide.
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very scary

i am among those who have been that far deluded and insane and it is but by the grace of god i am not guilty of such wanton brutality

this is a danger of the pursuit of higher consciousness and is known to occur in all religions and forms and can strike highly able and moral persons
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Re: Koos Nolst Trenite Appreciation Thread
Originally Posted by Claire Swazey
If his daughter suicided, then why was he institutionalized for killing her? There seems to be some conflicting info.
That's a good question.
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If his daughter suicided, then why was he institutionalized for killing her? There seems to be some conflicting info.
after a suicide the blame game is often played. (as a very young man i once wrote such a letter myself)

perhaps he was more of a harmless kook but this certainly may have been hard on his daughter.

we just don't know and are unlikely to find out but if personal associates of the unforunate man show up on esmb it is here for them
I didn't drink the KoolAid but I sure did drink the wine
I wasn't on the spot but I sure did walk the line
You know I saw her coming but I didn't hear her go
'Cuz she said goodbye to me years before she said hello

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John Dorsay

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On 5/21/2013 7:25 AM, Leonardo Been wrote:
> Persistent, Severe Criminal Libel by Claire Swazey et al. on exscn.net
> recently, recorded for Legal Process, and commented

<snip irrelevant insanity>

> The thread - on exscn.net - in three pages:

<snip>

The only evidence of libel of anyone at all, much less libel of
Severe Criminals such as you, that I could find in your post is this
claim by Mary O'Connell that Freya committed suicide. Mary insists
Freya committed suicide only because you say she did. Mary has no
actual evidence to support her belief. Of course, anyone who
believes any of your insane babble demonstrates an intractable
inability to distinguish fact from the ravings of a floridly
psychotic lunatic. Regardless, as far as I know (IANAL) it is not
possible to libel Freya since she is dead.

Here's Mary's claim, right from your post.

> AnonyMary
> Gold Meritorious Patron
>
>
> Join Date:
> Jun 2008
> Posts:
> 4,914
> Re: Koos Nolst Trenite Appreciation Thread

> Originally Posted by uniquemand
>> He successfully drowned his daughter. Other than that, he made a
>> laughingstock of himself.

> In bold: That is a false but well promoted statement that really
> needs to be closed.
>
> His daughter committed suicide. He found her dead. He was already
> off the rails before that and when it happened, he had a complete
> nervous breakdown. Np proof whatsoever that he did anything to
> his daughter, nor that he was ever arrested or prosecuted or
> retained for her death.
> https://groups.google.com/group/alt....a1f44f86?hl=en
>
> Koos Nolst Trenite - Facing the 'Scientology' demons and the
> Anti-'Scientology' demons, and their vicious crimes on him
> regarding his daughter - {HRI 20071025}
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.r...?hl=en&&q=koos
>
> To Mary - Re: Koos Nolst Trenite - Facing the 'Scientology'
> demons and the Anti-'Scientology' demons, and their vicious
> crimes on him regarding his daughter - {HRI 20071025}
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.t...8c82df88?hl=en ~ Mary

I wonder if Mary also believes your "proof" of your sanity.

https://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/414036a5058c6a1d?dmode=source&output=gplain


> The doctors of the department where I was, diagnosed me as being
> in full health and in full possession of my mental faculties, and
> fully sane. In fact they saw that I was saner than anyone else.
>
> They refused to treat me.

Mary's "proof" that there is no evidence that you did anything to
Freya is this thread, which in reality proves Mary is an incompetent
researcher, nothing more. It certainly provides no evidence that you
did not kill Freya.

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!msg/alt.religion.scientology/lor4xf6LczM/hk_0oX3TNdgJ

The only other "evidence" that Mary provides of your innocence is
one of your very own insane walls of text (which happens to be one I
recently reformatted). It is right up there with that high-quality
"proof" of your sanity that I already mentioned. Let's look at some
snippets from the reformatted version.

> I fought many years for the life of my daughter [Freya], nineteen
> years, to be exact - my daughter who claimed she was a
> many-life-times lover and soul mate of the 'Scientology' demon
> and guru, l. ron hubbard, and, who claimed, that her life's
> essence consisted in helping him achieve anything he, the demon
> l. ron hubbard wanted, and to cover up for anything he did
> regardless of whether he was incarnate, or a 'free,' unfettered,
> 'dis-incarnate' demon (dis-incarnate, not in a body, as l. ron
> hubbard became again after his death in January 1986 - a time
> after which my daughter suddenly switched, in the space of an
> hour or so, after having been spiritually attacked by the demon
> l. ron hubbard and the demon who is her mother, simultaneously,
> making her give up the Energy she got from me, so that she, my
> daughter, in the space of one or two hours, at the end of January
> 1986, CHANGED completely, from being (in my) Beautiful and
> Intelligent (Energy) which she had been in for six years, since
> her birth, to being (in the Energy of) intentionally (being) Ugly
> and Stupid, Enjoying Malice and having Contempt for life and for
> others (in the Energy, she was and remained, now) of the demons
> (of her raven mother Jutta, a demonic personality, and of the -
> in 1986 released - demon l. ron hubbard), as she explained to me,
> when asked, much later, about the dramatic change.

...

> I fought many years for the life of my daughter... when I checked
> how she was doing, before I would go and work and be away for
> some hours, she gave the very irrational remark, that 'She is not
> someone who likes to take poison,' the thought with it, that I
> picked up at the same time, was, 'She does not like people taking
> poison, as a means of suicide.'
>
> Red flag, red flag, but - it being Christmas, and she joining us for
> Christmas dinner, soon (she seemed to do well enough for that) - I
> let it go by, 'just some irrational remark, some crazy thought that
> must somehow have gotten into her mind, and that she wants to get
> rid of by blurting it out, to me,' 'does not mean anything.'
>
> She, my daughter, had been busy for many months, practicing to
> inflict pain and even more deadly feelings onto people's bodies or
> on plants, which she would later talk about to me, that she was
> doing that:
>
> People would start to sneeze or get a cold or feel pains, around
> her, in town or when we made a walk in the countryside and met
> people, she would project such Energies (Harmful Life Energy
> Particles) to scare them away. And she would tell me, later, that
> she created and projected the Energies that resulted in that. Also
> plants in our house would get inexplicably sick, in a similar manner.

...

> Things she confessed to me, as part of my suggestion that she writes
> down her problems, which she then did write down, copiously, not to
> solve these, though, but to obtain my Energy for herself. Less alert
> than usual, it being Christmas Day, I went away to work.
>
> While I was working, some strange feeling occurred, at one moment,
> that you probably know if you are sensitive - that "something of
> some impact, has occurred." She had to hide from me WHAT it was,
> that she was doing, so that I would not prevent it. I continued
> working, till I finished, and then checked again on my daughter, as
> she apparently had not left the bathing room. There I found her,
> that is, her body, with a smile on her face that I will not easily
> forget:
>
> She had joined her 'lovers and soul mates,' the demons l. ron
> hubbard and Richard Reiss... embraced she felt now, by their
> "protective Energies of Admiring her, for 'being their soul mate,'
> and for what 'heroic deed' she had done, now." All the efforts - the
> resuscitation-efforts to get her heart going again - and any plea
> for her soul to come back, were thus becoming futile. Apparently,
> she tried but failed to drown her body, because she was lying next
> to the bath, on the floor, when I found her - her body, that is,
> lifeless, no soul around, which is not a nice condition to see your
> own daughter in...

...

> And of course I asked my daughter, as she revealed more and more of
> her condition, now that she could not anymore hide behind her
> mother, who had gone since years, hiding from her children also, as
> usual, refusing to phone them even once, as usual, refusing to get
> others to contact us about her, as usual too, whenever she left in
> pretense, and when the normal ways did not improve my daughter's
> spiritual condition, I asked her, of course, what do YOU think, I
> could do to help you?
>
> And she replied, astonishingly:
>
> "Nothing - you can not help us. You can only leave us alone.
>
> That's how we are, we do not want to be helped to be happy and normal."
>
> This was something totally new to me, I was immersed in the
> certainty, that anybody can be helped if the help is right and big
> and long enough, to at least bring about an improvement.
>
> I was struck indeed, knowing it was a true answer, as much as
> another answer was also true that she gave about her own condition:
>
> "I am not your (lovely) daughter, I am a murderer (by the nature of
> my soul)!"

You clearly harbored the fixed delusion that Freya had been
possessed by LRon Hubbard since his death in 1986. But your claim in
this post that "Apparently, she [Freya] tried but failed to drown
her body, because she was lying next to the bath, on the floor, when
I found her - her body, that is, lifeless..." is proof by Mary's
standards that Freya died by her own hand.

Of course, you would *never* do anything that might harm someone who
you believed confessed "I [Freya] am not your (lovely) daughter, I
am a murderer (by the nature of my soul)!"

You do know that two different people spoke to Noel by telephone
within hours of the beginning of your stay in the loony bin, don't
you? And Noel confirmed exactly what was reported in the two news
articles, that you forced Freya to stay in the tub of frigid water,
where she died. He also confirmed that he did indeed send the email
summing up the tragic events. And all of this can be found in
google's archives by anyone who cares enough to look (which
obviously excludes Mary).

https://groups.google.com/group/alt.clearing.technology/msg/c8ae15bce9a320ed?dmode=source&output=gplain&noredirect

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/alt.religion.scientology/ar0fRjGXYs8

https://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/dd7271dab2f6487f?hl=en-GB&dmode=source&output=gplain

Do you know that realpch listened to your "auditing" of Tulka, when
you tried to force Tulka to lie about Freya's death? Peach's post
can also be found on Google groups.

https://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/10b333d278e2bc4a?dmode=source&output=gplain

Tell me again why I should believe you when you say Freya died by
her own hand?


John

Leonardo Been

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Studying Sociopaths here: their INTENTIONAL, PREMEDITATED REVERSAL
of Good and Evil - Adds Evidence and Motive to their Severe Criminal
Libel - recorded for legal process.

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On Tue, 21 May 2013 14:30:29 -0400, John Dorsay wrote:

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Leonardo Been

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Severely Criminal Libelers project THEIR OWN NATURE and past...
'Rancor non compos mentis'

{note 20130520-A}
(Addition on
22 May 2013)

'

Severely Criminal Libelers project THEIR OWN NATURE - as they no doubt
DO remember their "Holocaust-denier"-past...

...else there would be no point in their DENYING any PAST as
vehemently as they do so Criminally DENY and Libel the true
past of the very decent and very caring and very ethical.

'

The Criminal Libelers are merely projecting THEIR OWN NATURE, they
"must be talking about themselves," what THEY would have done - and no
doubt did as present life "Holocaust-deniers," in their "non- existent"
past:

Their condition, they have ALREADY made THAT obvious, that one wonders,
why they keep on "fighting tooth and claw" and with all Criminal Energy
they can muster,

to "defend themselves" from the most decent and the most caring.

'

What is written below, of course also applies to them, who are more
obvious and less "well-adjusted" Sociopaths:

Again: the more obvious ones, do shine their soul's condition, by means
of the libel that really reflects ONLY

- seeing also their detailed and motivated murder threats
that they posted -

their own murderous and irreparable mental illness of

'Rancor non compos mentis.'


'

'

I wrote earlier:

'

Naturally, the more "Well-Adjusted" Sociopaths are ALSO blocking to
actually look at l. ron hubbard

{note 20130520}

(layout in
monofont,
including
'white space')

'

l. ron hubbard - like all Sociopaths* - is TERRIFIED of being actually
looked at as he is.

And all Sociopaths, also the more "Well-Adjusted" Sociopaths
- naturally, by their nature - are blocking others and themselves from
looking at l. ron hubbard.

'

Such more "Well-Adjusted" Sociopaths, include, for instance:

Mark Bunker,
Andreas Heldal-Lundt,
Toni Ortega,
Tori Christman,
Jon Atack,
Arnie Lerma,
etc., etc.

as is very obvious from their actions and public statements already, and
even more obvious, from what they do NOT act upon and do NOT publicly
state at all, DESPITE their stated "purposes."

'

Those could be counted amongst Well-Adjusted" Sociopaths,

who all are characterized most easily by what of Life they do NOT
support, by what they to NOT protect, by what Crimes they REFUSE to
expose and oppose.

'

They REFUSE to accept people as they are, and they HEAVILY DENY the
nature of people: (They forcefully violate ARTICLE ONE of the Natural
Human Rights Declaration - [HRD-01].)

'

They - deliberately, actively, intentionally - refuse to understand
people, they refuse to understand the intentions of people, they refuse
to understand the activities of people.

Their most famous example and idol, is the public Sociopath and
charlatan and fraud called James Randi, the 'Anti-"scientist";'

or "skeptic" as he calls himself, without ever being skeptic of himself
- and Sociopaths can of course not afford that, at all.

Instead, they create and promote a FALSE "understanding" of people,
and of themselves;

and they bring about - or forcefully try to bring about - a FALSE
"understanding" and statement of the intentions of people, and of their
own intentions;

and they bring about - or forcefully try to bring about - a FALSE
"understanding" of the activities of people, and of their own activities
as well.

'

This they have in common with ALL Sociopaths - which does include
l. ron hubbard, who does THE SAME.

Like l. ron hubbard too, the "Well-Adjusted" Sociopaths do create and
maintain and promote an elaborate system of FALSE "understanding" of
people's nature, and of people's intentions and people's activities - and
they maintain and promote a false "understanding" of their OWN nature,
their OWN intentions, and their OWN activities,

by which they REPLACE reality. [CSTC]

'

They have everything IN REVERSE, and they want everything - and most
of all everyone - seen as THE REVERSE of what they actually are:

"THEY are the good ones," or at least the ones "who do face and
handle life."

On the other hand, actually decent and caring and truthful people

- so Sociopaths do experience it,

even if they, being "Well-Adjusted," do not dare to express it publicly,
for fear of damaging their image, nevertheless,

what they do feel (with tremendous Hate and Envy) about the most
decent, the most caring and the most truthful -

about those, the Sociopaths feel or "know," that such "boastful
individuals, 'pretending to be good and able'"

"are in fact the most evil individuals, are pretentious show-offs, who
must be 'cut down to size' and who should, if possible, really be gotten
rid of or exterminated forever."

As you can in read your history books, or in the public rhetoric of
Venezuela's Chavez' or Russia's Putin.

Or in this particular case, their intentions towards decent people, have
been recorded in the Usenet archives of
groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology

'

Wholly their opposite, I do remain, etc., etc.,

KNT hrp&p

'

________
Footnote:

(*) See the Selected References, below.

___________________
Selected References:

Take your pick from these twenty chapters - they can be read separately.
It is far more compelling reading, than fiction.

But exactly that, that it IS REAL LIFE - makes it loathed by Sociopaths,
also loathed by the "Well-Adjusted" Sociopaths,

who want people, and real life (and thus also the HRI's), to be ridiculed
and stamped on, or "not existing."

'

I did and do look at Sociopaths, and I wrote and published also the
following series about them, which is obligatory educational material for
studying Human Rights:

'

'
_________________________________________________ The '"Insane" "Defined"
By Criminal Minds' series:


'

[IDBCM-p20] ' "Insane" "Defined" By Criminal Minds - Part Twenty:
(Conclusion)
"Others destroying people, is 'none of your business' " ' {HRI
20040422-V2.7.1-pi20-V1.0.1} [IDBCM-p20]
(28 February 2008 - Version 1.0.1 on 28 Feb 2008)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics/msg/9c07433a14f01422

' "Insane" "Defined" By Criminal Minds - Part Nineteen: 'There IS NO
"reason" behind or for Evil' ' {HRI 20040422-V2.7.1-pi19-V1.1}
(27 February 2008 - Version 1.1 on 28 Feb 2008)
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.legal/msg/02135213792e0215

' "Insane" "Defined" By Criminal Minds - Part Eighteen: 'Criminal Minds
"are clever" - and normal people "are just stupid" ' ' {HRI
20040422-V2.7.1-pi18-V1.2}
(26 February 2008 - Version 1.2 on 27 Feb 2008)
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.legal/msg/02c9bba9ec172029

' "Insane" "Defined" By Criminal Minds - Part Seventeen: 'Criminal Minds
suck your vital Energies away from you,
to destroy your awareness and abilities' '
{HRI 20040422-V2.7.1-pi17-V1.1}
(25 February 2008 - Version 1.1 on 25 Feb 2008)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.military/msg/2a05b497a74a411b

' "Insane" "Defined" By Criminal Minds - Part Sixteen: 'Criminal Minds
inflict Harmful Energies into your body, to make
it sick' '
{HRI 20040422-V2.7.1-pi16-V1.1}
(14 February 2008 - Version 1.1 on 14 Feb 2008)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/2923afcc1235acc4

' "Insane" "Defined" By Criminal Minds - Part Fifteen: 'How they teach an
Illusion, instead of LIFE' ' {HRI 20040422-V2.7.1-pi15-V1.0.1}
(13 February 2008 - Version 1.0.1 on 13 Feb 2008)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/cb7e39017101f204

' "Insane" "Defined" By Criminal Minds - Part Fourteen: ' "Peace" is "DO
NOT SEE Criminal Minds" ' ' {HRI 20040422-V2.7.1-pi14-V1.0.1}
(12 February 2008 - Version 1.0.1 on 12 Feb 2008)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.military/msg/42265f097935edb7

' "Insane" "Defined" By Criminal Minds - Part Thirteen: 'Using what THEY
consider "insane," in order to detect them' ' {HRI
20040422-V2.7.1-pi13-V2.1}
(8 February 2008 - Version 2.1 on 11 Feb 2008)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.military/msg/0dc9b542bc42ab57

' "Insane" "Defined" By Criminal Minds - Part Twelve: 'Criminal Minds
PROJECT unreality as "reality" ' ' {HRI 20040422-V2.7.1-pi12-V1.1.1}
(6 February 2008 - Version 1.1.1 on 7 Feb 2008)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.military/msg/01a66139883eae1a

' "Insane" "Defined" By Criminal Minds - Part Eleven: 'Respecting any
person, with correct definition of respect' ' {HRI
20040422-V2.7.1-pi11-V1.2}
(5 February 2008 - Version 1.2 on 6 Feb 2008)
http://groups.google.com/group/nl.politiek/msg/9a1663a7c714c583
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.legal/msg/1a5fbbd04d09f1f0

' "Insane" "Defined" By Criminal Minds - Part Ten: 'Seeing Criminal Minds
"Is An Illusion" ' ' {HRI 20040422-V2.7.1-pi10-V1.1}
(4 February 2008 - Version 1.1 on 4 Feb 2008)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.military/msg/18975308fcb07398

' "Insane" "Defined" By Criminal Minds - Part Nine: 'The Criminal Mind
"who cares so much about you" ' ' {HRI 20040422-V2.7.1-pi09-V1.1}
(1 February 2008 - Version 1.1 on 1 Feb 2008)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.military/msg/9165383142b6bf39

' "Insane" "Defined" By Criminal Minds - Part Eight: 'Identification:
Friend or Foe, also in Diplomacy' ' {HRI 20040422-V2.7.1-pi08-V1.2}
(30 January 2008 - Version 1.2 on 31 Jan 2008)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.military/msg/38e269eda74cb380

' "Insane" "Defined" By Criminal Minds - Part Seven: ' "Surviving" by
inventing and promoting any institution, philosophy, religion or science,
that hides Criminal Minds' ' {HRI 20040422-V2.7.1-pi07-V3.0.1}
(15 January 2008 - Version 3.0.1 on 16 Jan 2008)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/d0d68297aa7c7b8c

' "Insane" "Defined" By Criminal Minds - Part Six: 'Blinding others, in
order for themselves to "survive" ' ' {HRI 20040422-V2.7.1-pi06-V2.3} (10
January 2008 - Version 2.3 on 14 Jan 2008)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.military/msg/487196131cb8046c

' "Insane" "Defined" By Criminal Minds - Part Five: 'THEY can only
PRETEND to be sane' '
{HRI 20040422-V2.7.1-pi05-V2.2.4}
(20 December 2007 - Version 2.2.4 on 24 Dec 2007)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/57f28a9138e89852

' "Insane" "Defined" By Criminal Minds - Part Four: 'Not facing Criminal
Minds is the CAUSE of Insanity' '
{HRI 20040422-V2.7.1-pi04-V1.0.1}
(19 December 2007 - Version 1.0.1 on 19 Dec 2007)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.military/msg/1f304ef936494f22

' "Insane" "Defined" By Criminal Minds - Part Three: 'Violently Denying
Correct Perception' '
{HRI 20040422-V2.7.1-pi03-V1.1}
(18 December 2007 - Version 1.1 on 18 Dec 2007)
http://groups.google.com/group/us.military.army/msg/b8417eb1e2a7ed39

' "Insane" "Defined" By Criminal Minds - Part Two: 'Sane is, sensing how
people - their souls - actually are' '
{HRI 20040422-V2.7.1-pi02-V1.1}
(14 December 2007 - Version 1.1 on 17 Dec 2007)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/96f5e029d607a66f

' "Insane" "Defined" By Criminal Minds - Part One: 'NOT seeing them, is
"being sane"' '
{HRI 20040422-V2.7.1-pi01-V1.1}
(14 December 2007 - Version 1.1 on 14 Dec 2007)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/29965cff0dae4a54

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