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Henosis Sage

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ref: [TEHA 2014] PLAGIARISM by Paul Twitchell LISTED by Author Book Movement
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-M0yAR0UPhPYXBLQXluTEx2VTg/view

The FAVORITE AUTHORS KNOWN to be heavily Plagiarized by Paul Twitchell INCLUDE:

FROM New Thought Movement - Christian Science, Masons, Theosophy & New Age

Thomas Troward
Joel S. Goldsmith (1948-64 Christian science)
Neville Goddard
Charles F. Haanel

Alexander McIvor-Tyndall (Ali Nomad)
Talbot Mundy
Helena Blavatsky
Annie Besant

Swami Vivekananda
Meher Baba

Walter Terence Stace
Manly Palmer Hall
Walter Russell
Paul Brunton

Edourd (Edward) Schure
Col. James Churchward
Walter Evans-Wentz

L. Ron Hubbard
Brown Landone
Robert Munroe
Bernard (of england)


FROM Radha Soami & Sant Mat movements - Sikh, Sufi, Bhakti, & Hindu

Shiv Dayal Singh Seth - Soamiji
Dr. Julian Johnson
Rai Salig Ram
Madhav Prasad Sinha
Sant Kirpal Singh
Baba Sawan Singh
Hazrat Inayat Khan


OTHER FAVORITE AUTHORS INCLUDE

Henri Bergson - Philosopher

Swami Abhedananda

L Bolton

A S Eddington

Harry and Bonaro Overstreet

Max Eastman

Maurice Maeterlinck

E.A. Milne

George Grant

JOSEPH COLLINS

Emmet Fox

Lavelle

Tibetan chakras - Bhachacarya Wheel

Vera Stanley Adler

Lama Anagarika Govinda

P. D. Ospensky

AA Bailey

Carl Gustav Jung

Vardis Fisher

Heinrich Robert Zimmer

Harriette Augusta Curtiss

F Homer Curtiss

Christmas Humphreys,

Sengtsan,

EA Burtt'

Robert Graves, and ever so more not compiled properly yet.

Could add in Pickthall's translation of Al Qoor'aan, multiple
Scientology texts he took with him, and the Upanishads.

Total Authors listed above is 55 - maybe a hundred books/discourses all up.

This out of hundreds of books mentioned or referenced by Twitchell. It seems
that the binders and notebooks Roy Eugene Davis saw of Twitchell's were
hand written and typed up notes from the many books he borrowed from the
Library and those he bought for himself - such as his 'bible' the Sar Bachan.

Not every example of plagiarism or instance of copying could be known for sure
or collated and shown today. But for anyone interested there is a higher
probability that the above authors would show up as sources for any NEWLY
found 'plagiarism/copying' these days.

Twitchell often obtains information from different books by the same
favourite author. And then this is included in several chapters of a
manuscript and the same material included in other books or his Discourses.

Plus it seems like Twitchell edited and reused his own 'manuscripts' materials
in new manuscripts - especially in writing his Discourses. He made the same
kind of slight changes in the text - sometimes a different eck master or Paul
himself would be saying thing that RT already had said in other writings.

So there's a pattern in how it seems that Twitchell worked in compiling his
manuscripts. What is clear is the systematic way in which the 'copying' was
done through various books from a selection of source authors.

And that whole pages and chapters have been shown to be copied texts with
only minor changes in wording, at times with no editing at all.

Sometimes Twitchell used a lot form one author in a manuscript. For example
Haanel's text makes up over 30% of the DWTM. That from only one of Hannel's
books.

Using today's Professional versions of "Plagiarism Finder" software is
the way forward. Or a Uni professor who can plug the right information into
a computer to do a complete scan.

All the published books by the authors above would make a good "short list"
to check using advanced software against Twitchell's writings one day.

Never ceases to amaze me that David Lane wasn't interested to doing this
in more detail when the technology became available at most Universities.
I think Lane never took Eckankar that seriously like he did other research.

but whatever, it doesn't matter.

cheers

wernertrp

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Dec 9, 2015, 4:24:51 AM12/9/15
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Etznab claims Twitchell also copied Gurdjieff.

Henosis Sage

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Dec 9, 2015, 4:36:05 AM12/9/15
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Yes, I think so. or Oopsensky quoting Gurdieff?

Henosis Sage

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Dec 9, 2015, 7:23:44 PM12/9/15
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On Wednesday, 9 December 2015 20:24:51 UTC+11, wernertrp wrote:
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> Etznab claims Twitchell also copied Gurdjieff.


On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 10:00:11 AM UTC-5, wernertrp wrote:
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Here is a small sample for you Wernertrp.

Quoting ...

[...] During one conversation with G. in our group, which was beginning to become permanent, I asked: "Why, if ancient knowledge has been preserved and if, speaking in general, there exists a knowledge distinct from our science and philosophy or even surpassing it, is it so carefully concealed, why is it not made common property? Why are the men who possess this knowledge unwilling to let it pass into the general circulation of life for the sake of a better and more successful struggle against deceit, evil, and ignorance?" [... .]

http://www.gurdjieff.am/in-search/index.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Search_of_the_Miraculous

Quoting ...

Why are those who know or possess this knowledge unwilling to let it pass into general circulation for the sake of betterment and success in struggling against deceit, evil and ignorance?

- The Flute of God, by Paul Twitchell, 8th Printing - 1982, Chapter 4 - THE PROMISES OF THE PROPHET, p. 47 (2nd Paragraph)

***

Quoting ...

This is, I think, a question which usually arises in everyone's mind on first acquaintance with the ideas of esotericism.
"There are two answers to that," said G. "In the first place, this knowledge is not concealed; and in the second place, it cannot, from its very nature, become common property. We will consider the second of these statements first. I will prove to you afterwards that knowledge" (he emphasized the word) "is far more accessible to those capable of assimilating it than is usually supposed; and that the whole trouble is that people either do not want it or cannot receive it.
"But first of all another thing must be understood, namely, that knowledge cannot belong to all, cannot even belong to many. Such is the law. You do not understand this because you do not understand that knowledge, like everything else in the world, is material. It is material, and this means that it possesses all the characteristics of materiality. [... .]

http://www.gurdjieff.am/in-search/index.pdf

Quoting ...

Here is something that many of us have overlooked. This knowledge is not concealed from the eyes of the masses. The fact is that the majority of of people do not want knowledge; they refuse their share of it and do not take the rations allotted to them.

Knowledge cannot belong to all, cannot even belong to many. This is the law.

[...]

Now in this world, this universe, knowledge like everything else is limited, because it is material. [... .]

- The Flute of God, by Paul Twitchell, 8th Printing - 1982, Chapter 4 - THE PROMISES OF THE PROPHET, p. 47 (2nd Paragraph)

***

Quoting ...

"The fact is that the enormous majority of people do not want any knowledge whatever, they refuse their share of it and do not even take the ration allotted to them, in the general distribution, for the purpose of life. [... .]"

[...]

"This aspect of the question is clear. The crowd neither wants nor seeks knowledge, and the leaders of the crowd, in their own interests, try to strengthen its fear and dislike of everything new and unknown. The slavery in which mankind lives is based upon this fear. [...]"

[...]

"That is one aspect. The other, as I have already said, consists in the fact that no one is concealing anything, there is no mystery whatever. But the acquisition or transmission of true knowledge demands great labor and great effort both of him who receives and of him who gives. And those who possess this knowledge are doing everything they can to transmit and communicate it to the greatest possible number of people, to facilitate people's approach to it and enable them to prepare themselves to receive the truth. But knowledge cannot be given by force to anyone and, as I have already said, an unprejudiced survey of the average man's life, of what fills his day and of the things he is interested in, will at once show whether it is possible to accuse men who possess knowledge of concealing it, of not wishing to give it to people, or of not wishing to teach people what they know themselves.
"He who wants knowledge must himself make the initial efforts to find the source of knowledge and to approach it, taking advantage of the help and indications which are given to all, but which people, as a rule, do not want to see or recognize. Knowledge cannot come to people without effort on their own part. [... .]"

http://www.gurdjieff.am/in-search/index.pdf

Quoting ...

The truth is that the crowd neither wants nor seeks Truth, and the leaders of the crowd, in their own interests, try to strengthen the mass fear and dislike of everything new and unknown. The slavery in which mankind lives is primarily based upon this fear of the unknown, this resistance to change, even when it is obvious that the new is good.
There is no mystery about Truth, but the acquisition and the transmission of true knowledge demands both great labor and great effort of him who receives.
Those who possess this knowledge are doing everything they can to transmit and communicate it to a striving and deserving number of people to facilitate their approach to it and enable them to prepare themselves to receive the Truth.
Those who want Truth must make the initial effort to find the source of knowledge and to approach it, taking advantage of the help and indications which are given to all, but which people as a rule do not want to see or recognize. Knowledge cannot come to you without effort on your part.

- The Flute of God, by Paul Twitchell, 8th Printing - 1982, Chapter 4 - THE PROMISES OF THE PROPHET, pp. 48-49

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Ref# 41391720 Paul Twitchell (The Flute of God) vs. Ouspensky / and Gurdjieff (In Search of the Miraculous)

by Etznab
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.eckankar/zCAV9AClSmA/Ui1L3b20BAAJ

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Etznab

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Dec 9, 2015, 10:02:08 PM12/9/15
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Do you have a list of Paul Twitchell books in Chronological order with the appropriated texts added in? If not then we can make one real easy.

I'd like to look at a books list and the appropriated sources for each book and check it against my own notes. I think it could give a more accurate history of where the early Eckankar "writings" came from. I had been under the impression that most came from Paul Twitchell and Rebazar Tarzs. Seeing that Twitchell had copied from other writers (extensively) though, I reckon the initial impression needs revision.

Actually, I think a number of things need revision and that this has been an ongoing process here at a.r.e.

Henosis Sage

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Dec 9, 2015, 10:21:50 PM12/9/15
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On Thursday, 10 December 2015 14:02:08 UTC+11, Etznab wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 9, 2015 at 12:39:44 AM UTC-6, Henosis Sage wrote:
> > ref: [TEHA 2014] PLAGIARISM by Paul Twitchell LISTED by Author Book Movement
> > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-M0yAR0UPhPYXBLQXluTEx2VTg/view
> >



> Do you have a list of Paul Twitchell books in Chronological order with the appropriated texts added in? If not then we can make one real easy.
>

Only the first part of this doc are his books in order when PUBLISHED .
[TEHA 2014] PLAGIARISM by Paul Twitchell LISTED by Author Book Movement
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-M0yAR0UPhPYXBLQXluTEx2VTg/view

there are a couple of other docs listing his publications, articles and books
and discourses on the archive - but no reference to any "source materials"
come from

a note in that doc shows when we think manuscripts were originally written fwiw.

DWTM 1956-57 Revised & Edited 1970

TTF 1957 For Kirpal 1963; Revised & Edited 1967

TFOG 1959 Revised & Edited 1966-68; and 1969

LTG 1 Dec 1962-May 1963 Revised & Edited 1973

LTG 2 May 1963-July 1963 Revised & Edited 1977

LTG 3 Jan 1964-May 1965 Revised & Edited '83-'90

TFC Jan-April 1964 Revised & Edited 1970

SKS 1964 ongoing Revised & Edited 1970-1971


Most Plagiarism records we know of are in this folder on TEHA
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B-M0yAR0UPhPdzZTdGxkNjBTR1U&usp=sharing

cheers

Etznab

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Dec 10, 2015, 8:10:01 AM12/10/15
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O.K., great. I'll start a file.

Henosis Sage

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Dec 11, 2015, 8:58:58 PM12/11/15
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an updated list that breaks down the authors more clearly into movements

Noted extra Author Codes for those who crossed 'streams':
- FM Freemason - TH Theosophy
- CS Christian Science/Mystic
- KY Kriya Yoga - RC Rosicrucian -


New Thought - Metaphysical Movement

Charles F. Haanel FM
Thomas Troward CS
Col. James Churchward FM
Neville Goddard CS
Dr. Alexander McIvor-Tyndall - Ali Nomad
Walter Russell
Brown Landone


Christian Science Mystic Occult

Joel S. Goldsmith
Bernard (of England)
Harriett Augusta Curtiss TH
Talbot Mundy TH
H. Rider Haggard
L. Ron Hubbard


Theosophy & New Age

Helena Blavatsky
Annie Besant
Edourd (Edward) Schure
Walter Evans-Wentz KY
Manly Palmer Hall FM RC


Philosophy - OOBE

Walter Terence Stace
Robert Munroe


Radha Soami Movement

Dr. Julian Johnson
Shiv Dayal Singh - Soamiji 1st SSG
Rai Salig Ram - Hazur Maharaj 2nd SSG
Baba Sawan Singh - RSSB 3rd SSG
Madhav Prasad Sinha - RS Faith 5th SSG
Sant Kirpal Singh - Ruhani SOS
Baghat Singh Thind - Science of the Saviours


Sufi

Hazrat Inayat Khan
Tulsi Das (?)
Rumi & Shams (?)


Bhakti Advaita Vedanta Kriya Yoga

Swami Vivekananda
Meher Baba
Paul Brunton TH
Swami Premananda FM - Kriya Yoga USA (?)


Buddhist

Christmas Humphreys



=== === ===


Twitchell drew upon many religions and writings to create Eckankar. Including the Mormons,
Christian Mystics, Freemasons, Rosicrutian, Bhakti, Spiritualists, Transcendental, the Sufi
and Buddhist teachings. He also presented psychologists and scientists into his texts.

Henosis Sage

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Dec 13, 2015, 8:15:35 PM12/13/15
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Most Plagiarism notes/records we know of are in this folder on TEHA
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B-M0yAR0UPhPdzZTdGxkNjBTR1U&usp=sharing

That doesn't list full referenced quotes every example or occurrence of
plagiarism.

You can find many more examples - fully quoted and referenced here on a.r.e. -
search this newsgroup for keyword - 41391720 - and look for yourself.
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups&hl=en#!searchin/alt.religion.eckankar/41391720

Regarding "SKS 1964 ongoing Revised & Edited 1970-1971"

Twitchell mentioned that he first sent out the SKS books as "discourses" for
the High Initiates.

Klemp did the same thing using his revised/edited Letters to Gail III before
publishing it as a book in 1990.

One could look at the LTG as a first run for Twitchell writing his own
'discourses' to Gail.

Most of the material in Twitchell old discourses can be found in the books.
Sometimes slightly edited texts and recompiled differently. In a way Twitchell
had 'a mother load' of typed up 'extracts' from some of the books he had read
over the decades. He also had his own copy of a number of key books.

Twitchell would dig into this stack of binders when he was writing LTG, articles,
his talks, discourses and books.

This is why the exact same ideas (and texts) turn up in different books.

eg Radha Soami Mat Prakash - Vibratory Motion, written by Hazur Maharaj in
1896, the SAME section is Plagiarized by Twitchell 3 TIMES and spoken by RT
Gopal Das and Twitchell.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-M0yAR0UPhPaHc0WnFocFN1ZVE/view?usp=sharing


So if Rebazar Tarzs, Gopal Das, Fubbi Quantz, Rami Nuri, Lai Tsi etc are
considered eck masters for teaching the 'word of eck' then surely these
authors might also be 'eck masters'?

Paul Brunton

Dr. Julian Johnson

Joel S. Goldsmith

Charles F. Haanel

Neville Goddard

Thomas Troward

Hazrat Inayat Khan

Talbot Mundy

L. Ron Hubbard

Walter Russell

Kirpal Singh

Dr. Alexander J. McIvor-Tyndall)

Hazur Maharaj, Rai Salig Ram 2nd SSG RS Agra

Wouldn't it then follow that according to Twitchell that these teachers and
their teachings are also ECK masters basically teaching ECKANKAR as well?

Such as Col. James Churchward and Freemasonary.
Bernard (of England) and his discourses to his small movement of followers.
Helena Blavatsky, Annie Besant, Paul Brunton, and Edourd Schure of Theosophy.
Walter Evans-Wentz and Swami Premananda of Kriya Yoga.

And this longer list of Radha Soami Sant Mat teachers 'quoted by Twitchell' repeatedly?

Dr. Julian Johnson, Shiv Dayal Singh - Soamiji 1st SSG, Rai Salig Ram - Hazur
Maharaj 2nd SSG, Baba Sawan Singh - RSSB 3rd SSG, and Sant Kirpal Singh of
Ruhani Science of Spirituality SOS, as well as Bhagat Singh Thind's Science
of the Saviours.

Surely Radha Soami is ECKANKAR?

And probably Kabir, Nanak, Lao Tsu, Buddha, Jesus, the Caballa, and all the
Sant Mat, Sufi, Sikh & Bhakti Saints?


EG see the "Rebazar Tarzs Portfolio" of those already teaching ECKANKAR before 1965 and before Rebazar Tarzs even.

Neville Goddard
Talbot Mundy
Christmas Humphreys
L. Ron Hubbard
Joel S. Goldsmith
Charles F. Haanel
Harriett Augusta Curtiss
H. Rider Haggard
Hazur Maharaj
Ali Nomad

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.eckankar/Y_Ym9P6cdX0/A9UHY1KhsfMJ


The obvious question is if Rebazar Tarzs was 'real' and had anything to say,
to the 'world' or to 'Twitchell' then why did he never say a word that wasn't
copied from some other written text taken by Twitchell?

Because nothing Twitchell claims RT says is original.

Nothing.

If Rebazar Tarzs was real he would have had at least something to say to
Twitchell directly and had it recorded in at least one of his books. Yeah?

Yet there are no real dialogues between Rebazar Tarzs and Twitchell.

There were no real dialogues between Twitchell and Kirpal Singh either.

"Literary Pegs" iow, used to speak the writings and ideas of others.

eg VAIRAGYA by Dr. Julian Johnson - becomes Vairagi by Twitchell

"VAIRAGYA is the next important step in mental preparation for the Path,...
This means the mental detachment of oneself from the external world. This is
real vairagya. It does not in any way teach or imply that one should physically
detach himself from the world. He need not leave his family or society, his
public or private duties. The Masters never teach that sort of vairagya....
Detachment, as taught by the Masters, does not imply austerities."

-- pages 357-358 Path of the Masters
http://plmishwarpuri.com/about-us/dr-julian-johnson/

As Klemp says: "known as the Order of Vairagi Adepts"
"Many times these guardian angels are ECK Masters."
ECK Masters featured on this site (pictured above):

Fubbi Quantz--the guardian of the Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad at the Katsupari Monastery in northern Tibet
Gopal Das--teaches at the Temple of Golden Wisdom on the Astral Plane
Kata Daki--helps people get back on their feet during hardship
Lai Tsi--the guardian of the Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad on the Saguna Lok, the Etheric Plane
Paul Twitchell--modern-day founder of Eckankar
Rami Nuri--guardian of the holy book, the Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad, in the city of Retz, Venus
Rebazar Tarzs--the Torchbearer of Eckankar in the lower worlds
Shamus-i-Tabriz--was the Outer and Inner Master of ECK in the thirteenth century and teacher of Jalal ad-Din ar-Rumi, Persian poet, sage, and a follower of ECK.
Towart Managi--was the Mahanta, the Living ECK Master in Abyssinia, an ancient kingdom in what is now Ethiopia
Yaubl Sacabi--was the Mahanta, the Living ECK Master among the Mycenaeans in ancient Greece

http://www.eckankar.org/Masters/


Etznab

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On Wednesday, December 9, 2015 at 12:39:44 AM UTC-6, Henosis Sage wrote:
These are NOT Eck masters.

NOT said to be over 500 years old.

NOT part of an unbroken lineage of Eck masters passing information one to the other by word of mouth for thousands of years.

No. These are NOT that.

If we had no clue about Paul Twitchell copying from those authors and books then the names he credited, Eck masters, might be much more believable. However, the list is growing and so is the amount of information NOT written by Eck masters, NOT spoken by Eck masters and NOT dictated by Eck masters!

There is a big difference between the idea of Eck masters that Paul Twitchell and Eckankar "sold" and text copied, paraphrased and plagiarized from library books. BIG DIFFERENCE! IMHO.
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